Will we ever see another FMVP winner shoot 41% with 4 reb and 2 ast?

[SpaceJam2]

Will we see it again like 1998 MJ facing #2 option 10.7 Hornacek?

[3ball]

Will we ever see a player win a Finals while his 2nd option averages 15 on 41% and disappears for the last 2 games, while his 3rd best player averaged 4/8 off the bench?

and against an opponent that just swept two top 10 players (Shaq and Duncan)

Probably not - that's the best carry-job of all time, and it's magnified by MJ leading the Bulls to a 1 seed (24-11 record) without his sidekick for the first half of the season - despite the extra load, MJ still had enough left to carry the biggest scoring and clutch burden in Finals history and also the greatest clutch moment in the history of sports.

[SouBeachTalents]

Will we ever see a player win a Finals while his 2nd option averages 15 on 41% and disappears for the last 2 games, while his 3rd best player averaged 4/8 off the bench?

and against an opponent that just swept two top 10 players (Shaq and Duncan)

Probably not - that's the best carry-job of all time, and it's magnified by MJ leading the Bulls to a 1 seed (24-11 record) without his sidekick for the first half of the season - despite the extra load, MJ still had enough left to carry the biggest scoring and clutch burden in Finals history and also the greatest clutch moment in the history of sports.
Nope, in terms of Finals '00 Shaq, '03 Duncan, & '06 Wade were all bigger carry jobs

[ImKobe]

Jordan averaged 33.5 ppg in the Finals and had 45 + game-winner in a close-out game with Pippen injured...

Bron OTOH never broke 30+ ppg in a Finals series win. MJ did it a lot. Kobe did it. Wade did it. Shaq did it. Hakeem did it.

Jordan didn't shoot 41% for the 1998 Finals btw, he shot 42.7%.

[SpaceJam2]

Will we ever see a player win a Finals while his 2nd option averages 15 on 41% and disappears for the last 2 games, while his 3rd best player averaged 4/8 off the bench?

and against an opponent that just swept two top 10 players (Shaq and Duncan)

Probably not - that's the best carry-job of all time, and it's magnified by MJ leading the Bulls to a 1 seed (24-11 record) without his sidekick for the first half of the season - despite the extra load, MJ still had enough left to carry the biggest scoring and clutch burden in Finals history and also the greatest clutch moment in the history of sports.

#2 options back then were top 10 worst all time :lol

98 Jazz, Jeff H (10.7 ppg) :lol
97 Jazz, Stockton (13 ppg) :lol

Come on now...

[SpaceJam2]

Jordan averaged 33.5 ppg in the Finals and had 45 + game-winner in a close-out game with Pippen injured...

Bron OTOH never broke 30+ ppg in a Finals series win. MJ did it a lot. Kobe did it. Wade did it. Shaq did it. Hakeem did it.

Jordan didn't shoot 41% for the 1998 Finals btw, he shot 42.7%.

Check 96 fg % :eek:
He did it twice

[ImKobe]

Nope, in terms of Finals '00 Shaq, '03 Duncan, & '06 Wade were all bigger carry jobs

False. Shaq had Kobe close Game 4 OT and Game 6, they got blown out without Bean. Duncan had a lot of help in 03 actually and didn't really carry the offense nearly as much as Jordan, Wade did his thing but it was against a terrible defense so MJ's was more impressive.


Check 96 fg % :eek:
He did it twice

53.8%TS in the 1996 Finals, Lebron had a 52.9%TS at his peak in 2013.

[SouBeachTalents]

Jordan averaged 33.5 ppg in the Finals and had 45 + game-winner in a close-out game with Pippen injured...

Bron OTOH never broke 30+ ppg in a Finals series win. MJ did it a lot. Kobe did it. Wade did it. Shaq did it. Hakeem did it.

Jordan didn't shoot 41% for the 1998 Finals btw, he shot 42.7%.
LeBron's 2016 Finals >>>>> '09 Kobe

[SpaceJam2]

Will we ever see a player win a Finals while his 2nd option averages 15 on 41% and disappears for the last 2 games, while his 3rd best player averaged 4/8 off the bench?

and against an opponent that just swept two top 10 players (Shaq and Duncan)

Probably not - that's the best carry-job of all time, and it's magnified by MJ leading the Bulls to a 1 seed (24-11 record) without his sidekick for the first half of the season - despite the extra load, MJ still had enough left to carry the biggest scoring and clutch burden in Finals history and also the greatest clutch moment in the history of sports.


4 rebs
2 assists

[ImKobe]

LeBron's 2016 Finals >>>>> '09 Kobe

Kobe's was more consistent. Lebron was terrible for half of the series while Kobe consistently had 29+ pts 8+ assists in 4 out of 5 games, the one he didn't he still had 30/6/5/2 with 4 blocks in the close-out game.

[SpaceJam2]

Kobe's was more consistent. Lebron was terrible for half of the series while Kobe consistently had 29+ pts 8+ assists in 4 out of 5 games, the one he didn't he still had 30/6/5/2 with 4 blocks in the close-out game.

Dear god if consistency is your metric then 1000% LBJ is the greatest ever.

Most consecutive double digit scoring games
Most consecutice 25 ppg seasons
Most consecutive all NBAs
Most consecutive Finals (since 1960)

Really? :lol

[3ball]

Nope, '00 Shaq, '03 Duncan, & '06 Wade were all bigger carry jobs
Not scoring-wise - no one carried the scoreboard like 93' or 98' Jordan - he set the record in both series with 38.3% of his team's points, including 50% in the 4th quarter while he was on the floor - Wade, Duncan, and Shaq all fall short of this burden... Furthermore, Wade's team was stacked to the brim, while Shaq and Duncan played weak opponents (especially Duncan).

So no - Jordan's 98' Finals is the goat carry-job when you consider scoring burden, teammate injuries/underperformance, and opponent strength... and also AGE - you're comparing peak Shaq/Wade/Duncan to 35-year old MJ, and MJ still beats them.. that should tell you everything you need to know.. :oldlol:

[ImKobe]

Dear god if consistency is your metric then 1000% LBJ is the greatest ever.

Most consecutive double digit scoring games
Most consecutice 25 ppg seasons
Most consecutive all NBAs
Most consecutive Finals (since 1960)

Really? :lol

Most Finals losses in the modern era as well, he's consistent at losing that's for sure.

[SpaceJam2]

Most Finals losses in the modern era as well, he's consistent at losing that's for sure.

Kobe needed 6 finals trips to get his 1st FMVP
Curryesque

Both blew a 3-1 lead too

Hmm

[Im so nba'd out]

No, but that sounds like an era where a milkman could make a good living in the NBA


If you take any player from today (i'll just randomly pickone) like say a David Nwaba.He would absolutely dominate that era and be a multi champion as "the man"