Enough is enough with all this scoring ( serious thread)

[Nike D'Antoni]

Some rule changes, to make it more defensive.And harder to score.Its really laughable seeing all this scorelines, and 14 players above 25 ppg making it look like they are Michael Jordan.

[Marchesk]

Harden just tied Jordan for number of 60 point games (four) in the regular season, but over several hundred less games.

Harden: 783 games, 570 started
Jordan: 1072 games, 1039 started

However, I don't know when Jordan's last 60 point game was, so that might be closer to Harden's number of games.

[LAmbruh]

Imagine the studs of today with a shortened 3pt line, spacing enforced illegal defense and checked by Hornacek's/Ehlo's nightly

:yaohappy:

[Nike D'Antoni]

This scoring leaders in 1997, 1998

Only 3 players above 25.
4th guy was averaging 23.2 ffs .


1. Michael Jordan*

[DMAVS41]

Yes, it is super easy to score overall right now.

However, season is young...lets see if a guy like Wiggins, for example, ends the season scoring like this.

Rules changes or not...it isn't stopping a guy like Harden from going off.

I know I'm in the minority a bit, but I'm not even exactly sure on what the issue is. It was obvious to see the changes from 04 to 05, for example...

But now, kind of just seems like everyone finally realized a 3 point shot is actually worth 3 points...and have decided to speed up the pace.

[Nike D'Antoni]

Yes, it is super easy to score overall right now.

However, season is young...lets see if a guy like Wiggins, for example, ends the season scoring like this.

Rules changes or not...it isn't stopping a guy like Harden from going off.

I know I'm in the minority a bit, but I'm not even exactly sure on what the issue is. It was obvious to see the changes from 04 to 05, for example...

But now, kind of just seems like everyone finally realized a 3 point shot is actually worth 3 points.


Refs can dictate whether games go physical or not, they should start calling less fouls.Allow more contact by defenders.Its laughable at this point.

[LoneyROY7]

People begging for rule changes because Harden is too good.

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[DMAVS41]

Refs can dictate whether games go physical or not, they should start calling less fouls.Allow more contact by defenders.Its laughable at this point.

Oh, I agree...

I'm just saying that won't have as large of an impact as some think imo. The 3 point shot is just changing everything.

I was slow to it about a decade ago...thought missed shots had more of a negative value than they did...

Just a powerful weapon that was severely underutilized based on how many players can make them consistently.

Again, Kobe shot more free throws than Harden just did when he scored 62 against the Mavs in 06.

The difference in terms of efficiency is that Harden can wet stepback 3's at a percentage and volume few players in NBA history can, if any can...I'm just not sure how to guard that unless you double when he gets going.

[Nike D'Antoni]

People begging for rule changes because Harden is too good.

:oldlol: :oldlol:


I been hating on Doncic here more than Harden. Both unlikeable players, annoying and everything wrong in this era.

[StrongLurk]

This scoring leaders in 1997, 1998

Only 3 players above 25.
4th guy was averaging 23.2 ffs .


1. Michael Jordan* • CHI 28.7
2. Shaquille O'Neal* • LAL 28.3
3. Karl Malone* • UTA 27.0
4. Mitch Richmond* • SAC 23.2
5. Antoine Walker • BOS 22.4
6. Shareef Abdur-Rahim • VAN 22.3
7. Glen Rice • CHH 22.3
8. Allen Iverson* • PHI 22.0
9. Chris Webber • WAS 21.9
10. David Robinson* • SAS 21.6
11. Michael Finley • DAL 21.5
12. Grant Hill* • DET 21.1
13. Tim Duncan • SAS 21.1
14. Steve Smith • ATL 20.1
15. Isaiah Rider • POR 19.7
16. Sam Cassell • NJN 19.6
17. Ray Allen* • MIL 19.5
18. Reggie Miller* • IND 19.5
19. Vin Baker • SEA 19.2
20. Gary Payton* • SEA 19.2

I know the pace is slower then, but wow that list isn't impressive at all compared to any other time post 1980.

Antoine Walker being in there is hilarious.

[Patrick Chewing]

A new sport needs to be created. Basketball is dead.

[red1]

A new sport needs to be created. Basketball is dead.
poor knicks fan ready to call it quits :oldlol:

[AussieSteve]

This scoring leaders in 1997, 1998

Only 3 players above 25.
4th guy was averaging 23.2 ffs .


1. Michael Jordan* • CHI 28.7
2. Shaquille O'Neal* • LAL 28.3
3. Karl Malone* • UTA 27.0
4. Mitch Richmond* • SAC 23.2
5. Antoine Walker • BOS 22.4
6. Shareef Abdur-Rahim • VAN 22.3
7. Glen Rice • CHH 22.3
8. Allen Iverson* • PHI 22.0
9. Chris Webber • WAS 21.9
10. David Robinson* • SAS 21.6
11. Michael Finley • DAL 21.5
12. Grant Hill* • DET 21.1
13. Tim Duncan • SAS 21.1
14. Steve Smith • ATL 20.1
15. Isaiah Rider • POR 19.7
16. Sam Cassell • NJN 19.6
17. Ray Allen* • MIL 19.5
18. Reggie Miller* • IND 19.5
19. Vin Baker • SEA 19.2
20. Gary Payton* • SEA 19.2

97 and 98 were the all time gutter years for NBA talent though.

Two dudes in their mid 30s were dominating the league with no challengers in sight.

Malone never sniffed an MVP before his 32nd birthday, after that all the Dream Team era superstars were either retired, old or injured and there was no one to replace them until c.2000.

[SpaceJam2]

Imagine the studs of today with a shortened 3pt line, spacing enforced illegal defense and checked by Hornacek's/Ehlo's nightly

:yaohappy:


80 bombs on the reg

40 ppg season averages

Career highs NIGHTLY

:lol

[SpaceJam2]

A new sport needs to be created. Basketball is dead.

Poor Knicks fan finally ready to throw in the towel 35 years late :lol