Put Current LeBron with the 2002 and 2003 Wizards?

[Lebron23]

Do they make the playoffs in a much weaker Eastern Conference?

[Gileraracer]

No. Lebron just missed the Playoffs with Lonzo / Beasley / Chandler / Ingram / Kuzma / McGee / Rondo / Stephenson and had to add a star PF and a star Center to be able to compete

[SpaceJam2]

With no injury himself like 2019?

Absofugginlutely

[SpaceJam]

Easily, last year's Lakers didn't even have a 2nd 20ppg scorer like those Wizards teams did, damn plus the East at it's absolute WEAKEST. Bron making the playoffs with that Washington squad

[nayte]

Yep . Like Jordan a first round exit. Great thread

[Manny98]

LeBron already got to the finals with Larry Hughes as his partner in crime and then you throw in Jerry Stackhouse and the number 1 pick in the draft :eek:

Finals easily

[3ball]

LeBron already got to the finals with Larry Hughes as his partner in crime and then you throw in Jerry Stackhouse and the number 1 pick in the draft :eek:

Finals easily
Lebron missed the playoffs with a better cast in 04' and 05' that included the East all-star center - he needed to add Hughes and the future COY to make the playoffs as a good team/high seed in 2006 and never made the playoffs with a bad team/low seed/lottery cast

he infact missed the playoffs 3 times with teams that were lottery the prior year (04', 05', 19') - aka couldn't drag lottery casts to low seeds/underdog matchups in 1st Round, and only made playoffs with high seeds, good teams, and easy 1st round matchups, thus inflating early playoff resume compared to other stars who were good enough to carry lottery casts to low seeds





LeBron already got to the finals with Larry Hughes as his partner in crime and then you throw in Jerry Stackhouse and the number 1 pick in the draft :eek:

Finals easily
His inability to succeed with weak teams or develop bad teams into championships shouldn't be a surprise, since his ball-dominant style turns teammates into spot-up shooters, which doesn't develop players/teams and requires ready-made stars acquired via collusion/cheating.. he simply avoided the career-losing fate of other ball-dominators by colluding for the extra talent this style needs to win

Ultimately, Lebron's style is suboptimal - he starts at SF but then shares PG duties with the PG - this creates a 2 point guard lineup that gives teammates less hold-time and assists than they get in 1-PG lineups, thus causing low TEAM assists and a brand that struggles on the championship level, aka 3/9... this suboptimal style results from a SKILL DEFICIT where he can't get elite stats off-ball.

[Bankaii]

No. Lebron just missed the Playoffs with Lonzo / Beasley / Chandler / Ingram / Kuzma / McGee / Rondo / Stephenson and had to add a star PF and a star Center to be able to compete
Can you name what teams the bolded players are currently on without looking it up? Thanks.

[3ball]

Can you name what teams the bolded players are currently on without looking it up? Thanks.
Can you post Ingram's stats

While you're at it, let's see how they compare to Pippen's

[Bankaii]

Can you post Ingram's stats

While you're at it, let's see how they compare to Pippen's
Can you explain a couple contradictions you make all the time?

Why do you use stats for Ingram vs Pippen but NEVER use stats when comparing people to Lebron, only wins? Can we compare Ingram’s and Pippen’s rings/wins?

Second, isn’t it a “no-defense, easy to score” league currently? So if we compare stats we have to add like 10-15 ppg to Pippen because it was SOOOO much harder to score in the brutal 90s. Dudes use to choke slam anyway that drove into the paint I heard.

[Manny98]

Lebron missed the playoffs with a better cast in 04' and 05' that included the East all-star center - he needed to add Hughes and the future COY to make the playoffs as a good team/high seed in 2006 and never made the playoffs with a bad team/low seed/lottery cast

he infact missed the playoffs 3 times with teams that were lottery the prior year (04', 05', 19') - aka couldn't drag lottery casts to low seeds/underdog matchups in 1st Round, and only made playoffs with high seeds, good teams, and easy 1st round matchups, thus inflating early playoff resume compared to other stars who were good enough to carry lottery casts to low seeds



His inability to succeed with weak teams or develop bad teams into championships shouldn't be a surprise, since his ball-dominant style turns teammates into spot-up shooters, which doesn't develop players/teams and requires ready-made stars acquired via collusion/cheating.. he simply avoided the career-losing fate of other ball-dominators by colluding for the extra talent this style needs to win

Ultimately, Lebron's style is suboptimal - he starts at SF but then shares PG duties with the PG - this creates a 2 point guard lineup that gives teammates less hold-time and assists than they get in 1-PG lineups, thus causing low TEAM assists and a brand that struggles on the championship level, aka 3/9... this suboptimal style results from a SKILL DEFICIT where he can't get elite stats off-ball.
Jordan missed the playoffs with Hughes

LeBron got to the finals with Hughes as his sidekick in the same Eastern conference

[scuzzy]

Jordan missed the playoffs with Hughes

LeBron got to the finals with Hughes as his sidekick in the same Eastern conference
:lebronamazed:

[3ball]

Jordan missed the playoffs with Hughes

LeBron got to the finals with Hughes as his sidekick in the same Eastern conference
Lebron missed playoffs with the East all-star center > Hughes

He needed the East all-star center AND Hughes to make playoffs, so MJ needed less

Then Lebron's 2 seed only had to beat the lowest-win 1 seed ever to make Finals

[Bankaii]

Lebron missed playoffs with the East all-star center > Hughes

He needed the East all-star center AND Hughes to make playoffs, so MJ needed less

Then Lebron's 2 seed only had to beat the lowest-win 1 seed ever to make Finals
Try addressing my post bud.