Better athlete: Giannis vs Lebron

[StrongLurk]

Honestly, I feel like Giannis might be the better athlete all things considered.

Giannis' skills at this point are definitely more raw than most of or maybe all of Lebron's career yet Giannis is impacting the game at an all-time level.

Just watching him, he is a freakin giant and just takes like 2 steps into the paint, turns, and dunks like it's nothing.

Idk if Giannis would even be in the NBA if he was under 6'4.

[Real14]

Giannis. End thread.

[PP34Deuce]

Athletic as in physical ability???

Prime vs Now?

Prime: Lebron at 24 was faster, stronger, weighed more and slithered like a guard with power.

Now: Lebron is a freak. He can't sustain his athletic plays like Giannis but I still think if they did a foot race, bench press, end to end court stuff, Lebron would beat him.

[FKAri]

He's just longer. Lebron was faster and stronger. Not to mention Lebron's tremendous vertical despite being weighed down by his gargantuan genitals.

[Grey Dawn]

LeBron needed hgh so Giannis

[ShawkFactory]

LeBron needed hgh so Giannis
True. Giannis is totes clean..

[Bronbron23]

Honestly, I feel like Giannis might be the better athlete all things considered.

Giannis' skills at this point are definitely more raw than most of or maybe all of Lebron's career yet Giannis is impacting the game at an all-time level.

Just watching him, he is a freakin giant and just takes like 2 steps into the paint, turns, and dunks like it's nothing.

Idk if Giannis would even be in the NBA if he was under 6'4.
In theyre physical primes lebron was definitely the better athlete. Stronger, faster, jumps higher ect. The reason why greek is so unique is because hes close to lebron in all those areas but hes also super long.

[eliteballer]

With or without LeBrons PED's?

[Vragrant]

Its a push.

However I give Giannis a slight edge based on the fact that he has a fluidity and finesse to his game that Lebron lacks, and that boils down to co-ordination. Not to say Lebron is not co ordinated obviously but Giannis a special type of coordination which is only enhanced by the fact that he has several inches on Lebron. He eurosteps better than most guards.

Giannis' footwork is so good he can guard quick perimeter players. I saw the Bucks play the Clips and Giannis had Lou Williams out on the perimeter. Lou Williams couldn't do a damn thing against him and he had to pass it back out. I've never seen anything like it, his footwork is so quick and nimble.

[StrongLurk]

Giannis' athleticism is crazy BECAUSE of his size...this dude seriously was garbage 4-5 years ago and has below average skills overall...yet he might have the most impact out of anybody right now (at least in the regular season).

[AirBonner]

Giannis would be a bench player in the euroleague

[tpols]

Compare lebron and giannis at 18... 240 vs 180... both same speed.

:rolleyes:

both only got better with age too. Lebron shits on gianni as an athlete. and as a basketball player tbh.

[madmax]

Giannis would be a bench player in the euroleague

this...dude's literally a bench scrub in FIBA. Not sure how this fact reflects on NBA and how manufactured and fake it is nowadays, but it's a fact that scoring in NBA today is basically the same as scoring in a chinese league lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Not just was LeBron the better athlete in his prime, his hand-eye coordination was also much better...

Smooth athleticism.

Giannis can look clumsy and relying on straight lines or space.

Not sure what Vragrant is smoking.

[ImKobe]

Whoever does more ROIDS.

[Bronbron23]

Not just was LeBron the better athlete in his prime, his hand-eye coordination was also much better...

Smooth athleticism.

Giannis can look clumsy and relying on straight lines or space.

Not sure what Vragrant is smoking.
You had me until smooth athleticism. Lebrons a beast but hes far from smooth and graceful out there.

[PP34Deuce]

You had me until smooth athleticism. Lebrons a beast but hes far from smooth and graceful out there.

Lebron at 24 could score faster in the halfcourt.

[ArbitraryWater]

You had me until smooth athleticism. Lebrons a beast but hes far from smooth and graceful out there.

You won't possibly find an athlete better conditioned and coordinated than LeBron at that size and strength.

LeBron can hop step, twist, spin, behind the back dribble, split doubles and he does it all in efficient movements.

If you watch 2017-18 LeBron you will see the epitome of grace and smooth.

You wouldn't get it anyway, though.

[Bronbron23]

Lebron at 24 could score faster in the halfcourt.
Definitely. Lebron was easily the better athlete.

[PP34Deuce]

I also think if you put lebron in multiple sports he could do more than giannis.

Soccer
Football
Volleyball
Baseball

Cant teach that hand eye coordination.

[Duncan21formvp]

Giannis

[plowking]

Wild to me that some are saying LeBron is stronger.

Not sure if we have ever seen Bron back down players like Blake Griffin and others and just dunk over them like Giannis does regularly. He bullies some really strong players. Bron definitely is known for pinballing people once he gets in the lane, but sheer strength and just moving people to get to where they want, I think Giannis does a better job.

[light]

LeBron is the greatest athlete of all time.

Giannis isn't.

[Axe]

I also think if you put lebron in multiple sports he could do more than giannis.

Soccer
Football
Volleyball
Baseball

Cant teach that hand eye coordination.
Wrestling

[hiphopanonymous]

LeBron is the greatest athlete of all time.

Giannis isn't.
Neither of them are


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt-eypvq4YE

[RogueBorg]

LeBron can hop step, twist, spin, behind the back dribble, split doubles and he does it all in efficient movements.

If you watch 2017-18 LeBron you will see the epitome of grace and smooth.



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[dbugz]

LOL what a disrespect to giannis. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

This is not even close

Freak >>>>>> libron

[Manny98]

LeBron is faster, stronger and WAY more agile

Giannis is just taller and doesn't have close to the same fluidity in his movement to LeBron

And for Wilt.

1. There isn't enough full game footage to truly gauge how athletic Wilt was in comparison to today's athletes

2. Anyone can look like god when 50% of the NBA were milkmen and plumbers back then. would Wilt really look like a athletic phenomenon amongst today's athletes?

[Bronbron23]

Honestly, I feel like Giannis might be the better athlete all things considered.

Giannis' skills at this point are definitely more raw than most of or maybe all of Lebron's career yet Giannis is impacting the game at an all-time level.

Just watching him, he is a freakin giant and just takes like 2 steps into the paint, turns, and dunks like it's nothing.

Idk if Giannis would even be in the NBA if he was under 6'4.

easily lebron. Stronger, faster, more agile jumps higher and more natural skill. You could make an argument that greeks athleticism is more impressive because of his height and length but lebron is easily the better athlete

[Boarman1]

That would be fun to watch a 24 year old Giannis vs a 24 year old LeBron

I'm going with LeBron, he looked like a freak coming out of high school

Giannis has length and height, but he had to hit the weights hard to look like what he is today

[hiphopanonymous]

LeBron is faster, stronger and WAY more agile

Giannis is just taller and doesn't have close to the same fluidity in his movement to LeBron

And for Wilt.

1. There isn't enough full game footage to truly gauge how athletic Wilt was in comparison to today's athletes

2. Anyone can look like god when 50% of the NBA were milkmen and plumbers back then. would Wilt really look like a athletic phenomenon amongst today's athletes?
That's dismissive and an attempted easy way out. You can't go to a playground and play kindergartners and suddenly block a shot with your shoulder at rim height for example. Your competition isn't what's making anything you do look extraordinary - it's actually just what you and you alone are capable of. And also, you're just showing your own ignorance if you don't know who his competition was. When there are clips of him throwing Gus Johnson or Nate Thurmond around like a ragdoll, and you refer to these players as if they are anonymous milk men or plumbers than you just look like a willful dumbass. He's blocking skyhooks - and doing it face to face not weak side - repeatedly as a 36 year old on bad knees. This is with about 3% of his career on film and as small as that sample size is it's plenty enough to have amassed a collection of mind boggling athleticism. Enough for many who see such footage and testimony to put him comfortably over LeBron or Shaq as the most imposing athlete that has ever played in the NBA which is exactly what the testimony of his peers tried to suggest before such a film collection existed.

[Axe]

Giannis needs to lead the bucks to a finals appearance and title.

[CTbasketball92]

Honestly, if we're talking peak and any LeBron up to 2015, this is not close. LeBron is by far more athletic than Giannis. Giannis is fast and quick and agile for his size, but I wouldn't say he's one of the fastest people in the league per se, and I wouldn't say he has elite acceleration, and I also wouldn't say he's got a vertical that's even all that close to what LeBron's vertical is today at 35. LeBron was maybe the fastest player in the league and his body control and balance and coordination are the same as an elite 6'1" point guard's. Those are qualities he shares with MJ. If MJ was a 10/10 in those areas, LeBron would be a 9/10, and he's 40-50 pounds heaving than MJ was. LeBron has GOAT-level 1-foot bounce and solid two foot bounce. At his best his max vertical was around 44 inches, if not that, easily north of 40 inches. His strength and power are also GOAT-level for a small forward especially. Giannis is up there, but i saw him look physically ineffective against Kawhi at times, and that was never the case with LeBron usually. In like 2006-2015 LeBron was more or less always the fastest and highest jumping and most powerful guy in the NBA regardless of size. Giannis is above average in most categories and that's amplified by his size. But he's not a GOAT-level athlete off his attributes alone.

Back in 2015, his maximum vertical reach was at 12'2." He's 6'11" or very close to that without shoes and he has a wingspan of 74 inches. That I'm guessing his standing reach is around 9'2"-9'4" since Kevin Durant's reach is 9'1.5" and his hands are smaller than Giannis'. So his vertical, if it didn't increase much, is poss. between 34-36 inches with a running start. That's solid and good, but LeBron is clearly on another plain in terms of leaping.

[Run DLC]

https://youtu.be/vd4nr9TURt4


Y’all must’ve forgot

[3ball]

Giannis is more athletic

He will replace lebron... Same type of player but bigger, stronger, faster and gets up higher

[PP34Deuce]

Bo Jackson is the better athlete.

[Gougou]

Giannis is a athletic freak, gifted athlete for sure.

But Lebron's athleticism is more well defined, he has a higher jump and acceleration, that allows him to play well in multiple type of sports, I mean Lebron was a D1 football recruit during his highschool years, and had multiple top college offers so imo Lebron is edges out Giannis just because his athletic ability can perform well in other sports.

[raprap]

Giannis.

LeGoat is all skill.

[Overdrive]

You won't possibly find an athlete better conditioned and coordinated than LeBron at that size and strength.

LeBron can hop step, twist, spin, behind the back dribble, split doubles and he does it all in efficient movements.

If you watch 2017-18 LeBron you will see the epitome of grace and smooth.

You wouldn't get it anyway, though.

Smooth and coordinated aren't attributes I'd relate to Lebron. His feet seem out of control alot. His dribbling is allright, but anything else was done smoother by guys bigger and/or stronger than him.

Lebron still was an better athlete than Giannis.

[Manny98]

Smooth and coordinated aren't attributes I'd relate to Lebron. His feet seem out of control alot. His dribbling is allright, but anything else was done smoother by guys bigger and/or stronger than him.

Lebron still was an better athlete than Giannis.
:roll:

LeBron is easily the most agile and smooth 6'8+ athlete we have ever seen.

[Manny98]

That's dismissive and an attempted easy way out. You can't go to a playground and play kindergartners and suddenly block a shot with your shoulder at rim height for example. Your competition isn't what's making anything you do look extraordinary - it's actually just what you and you alone are capable of. And also, you're just showing your own ignorance if you don't know who his competition was. When there are clips of him throwing Gus Johnson or Nate Thurmond around like a ragdoll, and you refer to these players as if they are anonymous milk men or plumbers than you just look like a willful dumbass. He's blocking skyhooks - and doing it face to face not weak side - repeatedly as a 36 year old on bad knees. This is with about 3% of his career on film and as small as that sample size is it's plenty enough to have amassed a collection of mind boggling athleticism. Enough for many who see such footage and testimony to put him comfortably over LeBron or Shaq as the most imposing athlete that has ever played in the NBA which is exactly what the testimony of his peers tried to suggest before such a film collection existed.
I'm not saying he doesn't have a case of being the GOAT athlete

I'm just questioning the quality of footage we have seen of Wilt Chamberlain

[CTbasketball92]

Giannis is more athletic

He will replace lebron... Same type of player but bigger, stronger, faster and gets up higher


3Ball you usually have good takes on athleticism, but this is so far off it's ridiculous. When have you EVER seen Giannis get his head at or above the rim?

When has he ever been the fastest player in the league?

[SATAN]

Giannis's movement doesn't look as fluid. Very over rated player imo.

[Elosha]

Neither of them are


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt-eypvq4YE

Wilt's not the greatest athlete either. Guy claimed a 50 inch vertical at seven foot one, and there is not one legit video or picture from a reliable angle showing his head at even rim level. The vast majority of his blocks and dunks are well below rim level. I'm sorry, guy with a 33-36 max leap is not the greatest athlete of all time in the NBA. And I really do appreciate that he was fast for a center, and had great endurance, but when you look at the highlights and see how he basically never moved on offense or defense other than the post, it's not quite as hard as guards who have to run three times as much during a game. I like Wilt, he's a great player and one of the all-time greats, but the best athlete? That's just a myth.

[3ball]

3Ball you usually have good takes on athleticism, but this is so far off it's ridiculous. When have you EVER seen Giannis get his head at or above the rim?

When has he ever been the fastest player in the league?

Giannis is a bigger version of lebron

Just because he doesn't get his head at the rim, he still makes plays that lebron can only dream of

Broke the dunk record - 100 more dunks than lebron ever got in a season.. many plays that lebron could never make..

Some extremely ridiculous shit

[CTbasketball92]

Giannis is a bigger version of lebron

Just because he doesn't get his head at the rim, he still makes plays that lebron can only dream of

Broke the dunk record - 100 more dunks than lebron ever got in a season.. many plays that lebron could never make..

Some extremely ridiculous shit

Giannis definitely has the length, but he moves like a fleet-footed power forward, whereas 2003-2014 LeBron moved like a 6'8" 250-pound shooting guard. The differences in their movements is pretty crazy. LeBron doesn't have MJ's body control, but it's still elite. Then in speed, reflexes, bounce, balance and acceleration it's really not that close.

Giannis can use his length more, but the gape in actual athletic ability without size is massive. If LeBron were 6'3" he would've still been a DWade-esque athlete with even more bounce.

[Turbo Slayer]

Giannis is a bigger version of lebron

Just because he doesn't get his head at the rim, he still makes plays that lebron can only dream of

Broke the dunk record - 100 more dunks than lebron ever got in a season.. many plays that lebron could never make..

Some extremely ridiculous shit Lol. Afraid of Giannis surpassing Jordan?

I'm not afraid at very least. If he surpasses LeBron statistically career wise congrats to Giannis for doing so.

[KD7]

LeBron is the greatest athlete ever, Period

Giannis isn't in the same tier as Bron

[eliteballer]

LeBron is the greatest athlete ever, Period



With or without Steroids?

[Overdrive]

:roll:

LeBron is easily the most agile and smooth 6'8+ athlete we have ever seen.

Magic was smooth. Lebron looks like a clumsy dork compared to him. Lebron is athletic af, but he's defintely not smooth. Your favourite player doesn't have to be (great at) anything. It's good enough that he's great at the things he really is. You guys are becoming more insufferable than Jordanstans back in the 90s and that means alot.

[LoneyROY7]

Giannis is more athletic

He will replace lebron... Same type of player but bigger, stronger, faster and gets up higher

If you think Giannis is faster and gets up higher than prime LeBron you might actually be braindead.

[Manny98]

https://i.postimg.cc/3xx1ZvXx/446rev.gif


https://i.postimg.cc/XqNLDGRL/446rot.gif


https://i.postimg.cc/5yHY0fL1/446rsz.gif


Not smooth doe :oldlol:


Magic was never this smooth, he literally dribbled the ball with his back to the basket half of the time

[Overdrive]

If you think Giannis is faster and gets up higher than prime LeBron you might actually be braindead.

Might?

[Axe]

Giannis has the advantage when it comes to size and we shouldn't forget that he's still young.

[Overdrive]

https://i.postimg.cc/3xx1ZvXx/446rev.gif


https://i.postimg.cc/XqNLDGRL/446rot.gif


https://i.postimg.cc/5yHY0fL1/446rsz.gif


Not smooth doe :oldlol:


Magic was never this smooth, he literally dribbled the ball with his back to the basket half of the time

None of them are particular smooth. 2nd one he was close to tripping over his feet yet again. He simply got those wide, wasted motion moves. Magic posting up is part of the era. You couldn't protect the ball by carrying and palming it and still call it a live dribble.

[Manny98]

None of them are particular smooth. 2nd one he was close to tripping over his feet yet again. He simply got those wide, wasted motion moves. Magic posting up is part of the era. You couldn't protect the ball by carrying and palming it and still call it a live dribble.
You're just a hater

Y
We have never seen a human 6'8+ that could handle a basketball as well as LeBron

[SATAN]

I love watching LeBron play but dudes like Manny are really, really cringe. The gifs were just average 'Bron plays in the grand scheme of things.

LeBron>>>Giannis never the less