How did Kobe elevate Andrew Bynum to become an NBA champion?

[superduper]

This dude was easily one of the most toxic and cancerous young upcomers as was demonstrated by his stints post Kobe such as when he was literally chucking up shots from ANY spot on the court he received the ball and his 0-11fg games where he visibly gave up with blatant on court tantrums.

If it wasn't for the winning culture Kobe instilled in him early on in his career he might have been out of the league in year 2 but Kobe allowed him to see the ways of winning and ultimately the much thrived after, golden promise land.

Unfortunately Bynum was much too immature and not that good without being spoonfed a free 15ppg from the greatest SG playmaker of all time.

HOW did Kobe elevate Bynum to such heights? :eek:

Discuss....

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[ImKobe]

Kobe beat the Magic in 5 games with Bynum averaging 6 ppg 4 rpg on 36%FG as a starter :lol

[superduper]

Kobe beat the Magic in 5 games with Bynum averaging 6 ppg 4 rpg on 36%FG as a starter :lol

But I was told Kobe had a DOMINANT front court?

Emphasis on DOMINANT.

[Manny98]

https://i.postimg.cc/ZK848Lbm/Screenshot-20190823-174832.jpg

[ImKobe]

But I was told Kobe had a DOMINANT front court?

Emphasis on DOMINANT.

That's laughable. Bynum was a complete headcase but Kobe got him to play hard for us, we saw what happened once he got traded.

[Manny98]

Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

Let's not forget who closed out the Celtics in game 7

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[SpaceJam2]

https://i.postimg.cc/ZK848Lbm/Screenshot-20190823-174832.jpg


ITS OVA

[SpaceJam2]

Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

Let's not forget who closed out the Celtics in game 7

https://i.postimg.cc/pr6stdkw/ezgif-1-ae222d86ab.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/SR2WCf7P/Yellowish-Wealthy-Koodoo-size-restricted.gif

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Well that was easy: lol

NEXT

[ImKobe]

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Well that was easy: lol

NEXT

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notice the Lakers were up in both Laker gifs but the Cavs weren't.

[Smoke117]

https://i.postimg.cc/ZK848Lbm/Screenshot-20190823-174832.jpg

:applause: :applause:

[superduper]

That's laughable. Bynum was a complete headcase but Kobe got him to play hard for us, we saw what happened once he got traded.

The Bransgender species are quite hilarious when they try to analyze basketball :oldlol:

They'll say a 32-6-6 playoff run is a free gifted ring that doesn't count but then turn around and say that 18-10 is FMVP.

Can't make Brantard logic up tbh :roll: :roll:

[RRR3]

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notice the Lakers were up in both Laker gifs but the Cavs weren't.
They certainly weren’t up because of Clangbe

6-24 :oldlol:

[superduper]

https://i.postimg.cc/ZK848Lbm/Screenshot-20190823-174832.jpg

Durant also said Kobe is 2nd all time :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Choose wisely Bransexuals....

[ImKobe]

The Bransgender species are quite hilarious when they try to analyze basketball :oldlol:

They'll say a 32-6-6 playoff run is a free gifted ring that doesn't count but then turn around and say that 18-10 is FMVP.

Can't make Brantard logic up tbh :roll: :roll:

18/10 is FMVP but Irving averaged over 25 ppg for the 2016 title run with 27 ppg in the Finals, including scoring 41 in elimination + hitting he game-winner in Game 7.

Pau Gasol had ZERO 30+ pt games past the second round of the Playoffs in those 3 Finals runs.

[Smoke117]

That's laughable. Bynum was a complete headcase but Kobe got him to play hard for us, we saw what happened once he got traded.

You mean how he got injured and missed the entire 2013 season and then was just a shell of what he had been in 2012 after that? Yeah, that was all about leaving Kobe. :rolleyes:

[ImKobe]

[QUOTE=RRR3]They certainly weren

[RRR3]

Kobe led all scorers with 10 points in the 4th. He actually scored the go-ahead points with about 6 minutes left in the 4th and they never trailed again.
6-24. He was absolutely atrocious. No way to spin that.

[IllegalD]

6-24. He was absolutely atrocious. No way to spin that.


Reminds me of LeBrons 9/24 in Game 7 against the Warriors

[superduper]

You mean how he got injured and missed the entire 2013 season and then was just a shell of what he had been in 2012 after that? Yeah, that was all about leaving Kobe. :rolleyes:

If he's this DOMINANT front court player he's hailed to be then no excuses.

Kobe was expected to win the championship after 3 career ending injuries.

[RRR3]

Reminds me of LeBrons 9/24 in Game 7 against the Warriors
9/24 is MUCH better.


StupidBe stans strike again.

[ImKobe]

You mean how he got injured and missed the entire 2013 season and then was just a shell of what he had been in 2012 after that? Yeah, that was all about leaving Kobe. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE]Only Bynum never made it to the early January guarantee date for his full $12.5 million salary in 2013-14, and self-destructed. He stopped trying on the floor, and became a disruptive presence in practices. Before Bynum was thrown out of his final practice and suspended, he was shooting the ball every time he touched it in a practice scrimmage, sources said

[superduper]

6-24. He was absolutely atrocious. No way to spin that.

The only way to "spin" it is by using the FACT that the opposing HOF PG that was facing Kobe on the same floor in the same series and hated Kobe's guts/has no reason to be nice to Kobe ADMITTED that Kobe single handedly carried that game and series by dominating the boards vs. the HOF front court of Sheed and KG.

Sorry RRR3tard we use facts, inb4 you come back with some downsyndrome shit like "meltdown".

Fking clown :oldlol:

[AirTupac]

He, as a guard, grabbed 15 rebounds in a game 7 that also featured KG, Pau, Bynum, and Rasheed in an historically dominant defensive finals.


In the 4th: he played well/efficiently in the 4th, also drew the double team then kicked it to Artest for the series defining shot.


Oh and he won. 5/7 finals won. He liked to win and won often.

[superduper]

He, as a guard, grabbed 15 rebounds in a game 7 that also featured KG, Pau, Bynum, and Rasheed in an historically dominant defensive finals.



Oh and he won. 5/7 finals won. He liked to win and won often.

Rondo, the opposing HOF PG that hates Kobes guts, HIMSELF admitted Kobe carried that game and series using the exact reason you provided.

But don't worry internet warrior and basement dweller RRR3tard knows more :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[AirTupac]

Rondo: It

[superduper]

Rondo: It’s interesting, I just found out something about Kobe, what he did in the 2010 championship Game 7. How he broke the game down and figured out how to beat us. I can’t give you the insight on that, but I just found that out. Like, maybe 45 minutes ago. It kinda pissed me off a little bit. It’s part of it, but it’s craziness. It’s amazing how he thinks the game, and it’s fun to know that.

MT: Wait, wait … so in Game 7, Kobe figure something out during the game that helped the Lakers beat the Celtics for a championship, or did he do it between Game 6 and Game 7?

Rondo: I don’t know if it was going into the game, but it was told to me that he had to figure it out during the game. He wasn’t himself. So he had to figure out a different way to win the game.

RRR3tard: "B Bu BUh MELTDOWN!!"

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[AirTupac]

RRR3tard: "B Bu BUh MELTDOWN!!"
:roll:


BUT BUT!!!!!!!!!!!! FIELD GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: - Nerd who couldnt make highschool bball

[ImKobe]

He, as a guard, grabbed 15 rebounds in a game 7 that also featured KG, Pau, Bynum, and Rasheed in an historically dominant defensive finals.



Oh and he won. 5/7 finals won. He liked to win and won often.

Series should have been over in 6 games.




Game 5

Kobe - 38/5/4 13/27 FG, 28 in 2nd half

Gasol - 12/12 on 5/12 FG, should have been 10 points on 4/11 but stat-padded down 8 with 10 seconds to go

Artest - 7/2/2 2/9 FG, missed 3 FTs down the stretch

Fisher - 9/4/2 2/9 FG :facepalm

Bynum - 6 points, 1 rebound in 31 minutes :roll:

[superduper]

Series should have been over in 6 games.




Game 5

Kobe - 38/5/4 13/27 FG, 28 in 2nd half

Gasol - 12/12 on 5/12 FG, should have been 10 points on 4/11 but stat-padded down 8 with 10 seconds to go

Artest - 7/2/2 2/9 FG, missed 3 FTs down the stretch

Fisher - 9/4/2 2/9 FG :facepalm

Bynum - 6 points, 1 rebound in 31 minutes :roll:

Okay seriously, all trolling aside. I don't think it's remotely debatable that Kobe repeated with the worst casts in NBA history.

It's actually quite incredible.

[superduper]

Anyone?

[Doranku]

Series should have been over in 6 games.




Game 5

Kobe - 38/5/4 13/27 FG, 28 in 2nd half

Gasol - 12/12 on 5/12 FG, should have been 10 points on 4/11 but stat-padded down 8 with 10 seconds to go

Artest - 7/2/2 2/9 FG, missed 3 FTs down the stretch

Fisher - 9/4/2 2/9 FG :facepalm

Bynum - 6 points, 1 rebound in 31 minutes :roll:

It's a shame, that could've been a nice legacy game for Kobe. Dude scored like 17 points in the first 4 minutes of the second half. Unfortunately the Lakers just couldn't get a stop during his flurry.

[stalkerforlife]

This dude was easily one of the most toxic and cancerous young upcomers as was demonstrated by his stints post Kobe such as when he was literally chucking up shots from ANY spot on the court he received the ball and his 0-11fg games where he visibly gave up with blatant on court tantrums.

If it wasn't for the winning culture Kobe instilled in him early on in his career he might have been out of the league in year 2 but Kobe allowed him to see the ways of winning and ultimately the much thrived after, golden promise land.

Unfortunately Bynum was much too immature and not that good without being spoonfed a free 15ppg from the greatest SG playmaker of all time.

HOW did Kobe elevate Bynum to such heights? :eek:

Discuss....

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/gameon/2013/02/19/andrewbynum-16_9.jpg
http://jerseychaser.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Andrew-Bynum-Yolo-Fro-Charles-Barkley.jpg
https://ftks732kpvy18zwzc2s17egw-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Andrew-Bynum-Hair-556x445.jpg

:roll:

Bynum was a trip, man.

Home Alone ass.

Can't believe Kobe almost went B2B2B with those characters.

[ImKobe]

:roll:

Bynum was a trip, man.

Home Alone ass.

Can't believe Kobe almost went B2B2B with those characters.


The Becketts go on to write: "Bynum has demonstrated open contempt for the Becketts specifically and for the neighborhood generally by blasting loud, profane, and disrespectful music and video games at window-shaking volumes; by letting his dogs run loose through the neighborhood; by apparently engaging in illegal drug use and permitting marijuana smoke to drift into the Becketts' backyard; by constructing a fence on his property which is not in compliance with the community codes and regulations; by conspicuously brandishing firearms in an attempt to threaten and intimidate the Becketts in retaliation for their legitimate complaints; and, perhaps most seriously, by recklessly racing his luxury cars through the neighborhood at dangerous speeds where children or others could be injured or killed."

:roll:

[stalkerforlife]

:roll:

What a clown.

Hope the HOA booted his ass out.

[theballerFKA Ace]

:roll:

Bynum was a trip, man.

Home Alone ass.

Can't believe Kobe almost went B2B2B with those characters.

Off topic but I've been looking for that pic of Bynum in his rookie year geeking out on the computer with some random Macaulay Culkin looking friend from high school. Anyone have it?

Poor Bynum was a beta over privileged suburban white kid trapped in a 7 foot black man's body.

[Laker4Lyfe]

Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

Let's not forget who closed out the Celtics in game 7

https://i.postimg.cc/pr6stdkw/ezgif-1-ae222d86ab.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/SR2WCf7P/Yellowish-Wealthy-Koodoo-size-restricted.gif

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The same Gasol that never made it out the 1st round before coming to the Lakers? That Gasol?

I'm not even a Kobe fan but haters are funny. :lol

[PickernRoller]

The mystery shall continue.... a carry-job of this nature is beyond human comprehension.

[superduper]

Anyone? :eek:

[34-24 Footwork]

Anyone? :eek:

Nah. Been asking this question forever.

Shannon Brown
Vujecic
MBenga
Farmer

Like who tf are these dudes. Lol.. not sure how Kobe did it twice and almost 3 times.

[sammichoffate]

So let's analyze Kobe's 4th quarter a little bit:

-Kobe went 8/9 from the FT line to go along w/ one jumpshot he made over Ray Allen.
-He went 1/4 from the field with 4 rebounds and the game-clinching assist to Ron Artest.
-Score was 57-55 going into the 4th, which means Lakers scored just 28 points. Kobe accounted for about 13, which would be about half of the teams' points.
-His ts% that 4th quarter was 63%.
-His fg% wasn't good at all, but he easily made up for it.

[Manny98]

Nah. Been asking this question forever.

Shannon Brown
Vujecic
MBenga
Farmer

Like who tf are these dudes. Lol.. not sure how Kobe did it twice and almost 3 times.
Lamar Odom
Bynum
Gasol

That's 3 all star caliber players Kobe was surrounded with + elite 3+D role players like Ariza and World Peace

Then you have the GOAT coach to top it off

Those Lakers were loaded I'm surprised they didn't 3-peat

[ImKobe]

Lamar Odom
Bynum
Gasol

That's 3 all star caliber players Kobe was surrounded with + elite 3+D role players like Ariza and World Peace

Then you have the GOAT coach to top it off

Those Lakers were loaded I'm surprised they didn't 3-peat

Well maybe it has something to do with Bynum and Ariza both being injured in 08? And Popovich is clearly a better coach and Phil jackson.

[superduper]

Nah. Been asking this question forever.

Shannon Brown
Vujecic
MBenga
Farmer

Like who tf are these dudes. Lol.. not sure how Kobe did it twice and almost 3 times.

Holy shit HOW did I forget the LEGENDARY and DOMINANT front court help from DJ Mbenga?!

New updated list of Kobe's STACKED cast:

Sun Yue
Josh Powell
Luke Walton
Sasha Vujacic
Adam Morrison
Jordan Farmar
Shannon Brown
DJ Mbenga

Seriously.... who the fk are these dudes :roll: :roll:

Apparently they're NBA champions?? :biggums: :biggums:

[SpaceJam2]

https://i.postimg.cc/DZ5XMtZx/Crazy-Dream.jpg

[Bosnian Sajo]

Holy shit HOW did I forget the LEGENDARY and DOMINANT front court help from DJ Mbenga?!

New updated list of Kobe's STACKED cast:

Sun Yue
Josh Powell
Luke Walton
Sasha Vujacic
Adam Morrison
Jordan Farmar
Shannon Brown
DJ Mbenga

Seriously.... who the fk are these dudes :roll: :roll:

Apparently they're NBA champions?? :biggums: :biggums:


"loaded"

[Bankaii]

The same Gasol that never made it out the 1st round before coming to the Lakers? That Gasol?

I'm not even a Kobe fan but haters are funny. :lol
Did Kobe do any better in the playoffs during that same 05-07 stretch?

[SpaceJam2]

Did Kobe do any better in the playoffs during that same 05-07 stretch?

:lol Got'm

[superduper]

Holy shit HOW did I forget the LEGENDARY and DOMINANT front court help from DJ Mbenga?!

New updated list of Kobe's STACKED cast:

Sun Yue
Josh Powell
Luke Walton
Sasha Vujacic
Adam Morrison
Jordan Farmar
Shannon Brown
DJ Mbenga

Seriously.... who the fk are these dudes :roll: :roll:

Apparently they're NBA champions?? :biggums: :biggums:

Would even a single player here be allowed to be LeGOAT's 15th man??

Kobe almost 3peated with straight up homeless people.

And people question the man's greatness :oldlol:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Did Kobe do any better in the playoffs during that same 05-07 stretch?


Oh, you think Pau started playing in 2005?

[Bankaii]

Oh, you think Pau started playing in 2005?
I know you’re a kobetard but you can’t be this dense.
The 0-12 argument against Pau that Kobetards always use is his stretch from 04-06. During Kobe’s stretch as the man from 05-07 he essentially had just as much playoff success as Pau before they joined forces.

Pau gets ridiculed for his lack of playoff success when Kobe was struggling just as hard.

[superduper]

I know you’re a kobetard but you can’t be this dense.
The 0-12 argument against Pau that Kobetards always use is his stretch from 04-06. During Kobe’s stretch as the man from 05-07 he essentially had just as much playoff success as Pau before they joined forces.

Pau gets ridiculed for his lack of playoff success when Kobe was struggling just as hard.

Pau has never won a single playoff game in his life as the first option in the first round before Kobe.

Yet Kobe won multiple playoff games in that same stretch....

Good try but not really.

[Manny98]

Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

[Bankaii]

Pau has never won a single playoff game in his life as the first option in the first round before Kobe.

Yet Kobe won multiple playoff games in that same stretch....

Good try but not really.
Now we

[ImKobe]

Now we’re comparing single games?:oldlol:
Kobe 05-07: missed playoffs, first round exits
2004-06 Pau: first round exits

Neither of them got out of the first round, but at least Pau didn’t miss the playoffs during that stretch lol.

We’re comparing PEAK Kobe to Pau freaking gasol:roll:

Why are you not doing 05-07 Pau? What was the Lakers record in 08 vs the Grizzlies record, prior to the Gasol trade? :lol Were they not on pace for another terrible season with Gasol while the Lakers were among the top in the West? Hmm.

[Bankaii]

Why are you not doing 05-07 Pau? What was the Lakers record in 08 vs the Grizzlies record, prior to the Gasol trade? :lol Were they not on pace for another terrible season with Gasol while the Lakers were among the top in the West? Hmm.
My OP was in response to a comment on Pau being 0-12, which was 2004-06.
If you want to use 05-07 Pau go ahead, it