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AirBonner
12-08-2019, 04:08 PM
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: Players are just better than what they used to be

elementally morale
12-08-2019, 04:19 PM
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: Players are just better than what they used to be


No.

But Curry is a much better pure shooter than Kobe was. On the other hand, Curry can be shut down more easily. If no Klay (and no Durant) Curry is almost invisible. When his shot is off he is not much to write home about and when the going gets tough he has a tendency to disappear.

All things considered, Kobe was a better player than Curry. First off, defense. And even on offense I'd say it's Kobe. Curry is better with good teammates... I think. But under pressure and alone... he is pretty much lost.

Players are not better than they used to be. I mean: great players are not. The average NBA player is somewhat better than 15-20 years ago. Best players today are not better. The only exception may be Doncic. He has a chance to become better than anyone ever. The rest have no chance. Not Kawhi, not Harden, not Giannis. And LeBron won't be better than he was at his peak either. Embiid and Jokic have a chance to become as good impact wise as the best centers in the 90s. Slim chance. Other than those I mentioned... nope.

red1
12-08-2019, 04:21 PM
plus zero rapes so far in his career.

SpaceJam2
12-08-2019, 04:23 PM
To be fair Kobe never was a great player, his fragile legacy was boosted by a top 3 all time PRIME teammate in Shaq (LBJ, MJ, Shaq top 3 primes)

If Kobe just has 2 FMVPs and 3 rings he is in the top 20-30 tier

Shaq pushed him to top 15

red1
12-08-2019, 04:25 PM
To be fair Kobe never was a great player, his fragile legacy was boosted by a top 3 all time PRIME teammate in Shaq (LBJ, MJ, Shaq top 3 primes)

If Kobe just has 2 FMVPs and 3 rings he is in the top 20-30 tier

Shaq pushed him to top 15
his two co-finals MVPs with gasol were impressive no doubt - personally I want more than 6 for 24 shooting in a finals game 7 from my starting shooting guard.

SpaceJam2
12-08-2019, 04:27 PM
plus zero rapes so far in his career.

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Marchesk
12-08-2019, 04:28 PM
Meanwhile Westbrook, an MVP, shooting 30.5% from three for his career.

SpaceJam2
12-08-2019, 04:29 PM
his two co-finals MVPs with gasol were impressive no doubt - personally I want more than 6 for 24 shooting in a finals game 7 from my starting shooting guard.

And let's not forget about the fact that he has collected the following marks in playoff competition

1x 40 pt Finals game
0x Triple doubles
0x seasons above .469% fg

thats god awful embarrassing

If it wasn't for Shaq Kobe would be a top 30 player at BEST

superduper
12-08-2019, 04:31 PM
Look at the one response from the unbias and reasonable fan and then the 3 troll bran Stan responses.

That right there is normal fandom vs brantardation in a nutshell.

Quality > quantity.

red1
12-08-2019, 04:32 PM
kobe being clutch is also a huge myth.



dude is an absolute bricklord. they eye test and every metric proves it.



hearing about killer instinct and clutch from kobe stans is the funniest shit ever. I would literally slap someone if they said that in person.

SpaceJam2
12-08-2019, 04:40 PM
kobe being clutch is also a huge myth.



dude is an absolute bricklord. they eye test and every metric proves it.



hearing about killer instinct and clutch from kobe stans is the funniest shit ever. I would literally slap someone if they said that in person.

Sock away :cheers:

egokiller
12-08-2019, 04:42 PM
What are each player

Gileraracer
12-08-2019, 04:44 PM
Plus he has as many rings as Lebron has - without 2 superstar collusions :lebronamazed:

red1
12-08-2019, 04:48 PM
Plus he has as many rings as Lebron has - without 2 superstar collusions :lebronamazed:
how many finals MVPs though?


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SpaceJam2
12-08-2019, 05:15 PM
how many finals MVPs though?


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Goodness

Horry > Jordan

OR

Bron > Curry