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Kblaze8855
12-11-2019, 06:40 AM
Hes never even played 29 minutes a game. He feels like hed be one of those super role players. Hes been on a lot of deep teams who had other options and limited everyones minutes which explains it just fine. But im asking...doesnt it feel like Danny has been kinda major? He feels like a big get for a team to me. All D team guy years ago....the shooting obviously. But when I look into what hes done im usually surprised it isnt more. End of a game i will feel like he did a good bit...then I check and he actually had 8 points in 19 minutes and its just weird. Perhaps I just have too many memories of a crowd exploding when he hits a late three and it taints my perception...but I feeeeeeel like hes been a pretty bigtime guy. Im not sure if he should have had more minutes/a bigger offensive role in his career or him being on great teams just makes me feel like hes more than he is. Is he like...the 2 guard Ac Green or Brian Shaw? Meaning you know who he is....but more because you cant miss him on the teams he played on than because of what he did?

I think any teams fanbase would be excited to get Danny Green. And I would too. I wonder if a team gave him the shot the 76s did JJ if he could be a JJ type guy with more defense....

Im not really going anywhere with this I just....like Danny Green. And it feels like hes done more than you could easily account for statistically.

superduper
12-11-2019, 08:03 AM
I liked his positive attitude and demeanor while he was here. It was very uplifting not only to the team but also to Kawhi who was still getting comfortable at that time. As a player he is no different than any other 3&d role player, although he is above average in that role I guess. He won't bring it every game offensively but he'll play good defense every game. His offense is literally limited to 3s, he doesn't do anything else.

Overall good player to have but quite replaceable.

ShawkFactory
12-11-2019, 09:04 AM
Wild that he was the 4th best player on his team in college.

That was an ATG squad.

Grey Dawn
12-11-2019, 09:27 AM
He was very close to finals mvp the first year Kawhi won it

Ainosterhaspie
12-11-2019, 10:37 AM
Probably should have won FMVP in 2013 if Heat lose game six.

brooks_thompson
12-11-2019, 10:45 AM
Probably should have won FMVP in 2013 if Heat lose game six.

Came to say this. And that his transition defense was/is as good as I've ever seen. He's so good at faking out 2 (or even three) players and breaking up a fast break and knows right when to commit or switch.

But yes, to the original post. His reputation as one of the best role players in this era is deserved, but he often doesn't do as much offensive damage as you'd think. Plus, after he cooled down after the hot finals in 13 and 14, it seemed like he was a bit of a disappointment in San Antonio. He would go really cold and his percentages weren't too great. He wasn't too hot last year in the playoffs for Toronto, either.

sammichoffate
12-11-2019, 11:04 AM
He's Bruce Bowen without all the karate kicking.

MaxPlayer
12-11-2019, 11:13 AM
He's been on a lot of good teams.

Part of that is luck, but it's also because, like many "3 and D" players, he's a good complimentary piece:

Can defend multiple positions well
Can score efficiently without needing the ball in his hand
Is a deep shooting threat so he spreads the floor
Decent passer so he can set up teammates

He's not great at creating his own shot or locking down an elite scorer, so he might not be quite as useful as one of the best players on a worse team, but if he's playing alongside great players who can cover his weaknesses, he can really provide a needed ingredient without hogging too much cap space.

warriorfan
12-11-2019, 11:35 AM
Yes. He

Ainosterhaspie
12-11-2019, 12:00 PM
He's a big enough threat from three that defenders have to respect him. That opens things up for the team even when he's not scoring. He can help offense run without scoring a basket. As long as you don't need him to consistently volume score, he's a huge benefit to the team.

Reminds me of Shane Battier a bit--the "no stats all-star". Some guys leave the box score empty, but their team always does better when they're on the floor.

RRR3
12-11-2019, 02:56 PM
He’s a SUPERB role player. Every team would love to have him.

AirBonner
12-11-2019, 03:09 PM
He's just a popular name. You could get the same production from a few guys in the dleague. He's just solid. If you want a super-role player you need someone with more versatility like Marcus Smart who does many things well.

Proctor
12-11-2019, 03:09 PM
He has a severely understated impact and as mentioned above, pretty much a modern day Shane Battier in SG form.

As far as being "major" like the OP...he absolutely has been. Everyone remembers the Heat series in 2013 but there's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu03hSuP6Ls

Probably the most fun I've had watching a game (and for those who give a shit about these things, probably Harlan's best called game in years)

A lot of Spurs fans turned on him because his shooting got even more streaky, and he would often turn into "Danny Bricks"... but he still shows up when it matters and his impact every game whether the shot is falling or not is tangible.

It wasn't until his signing that the Lakers were truly contenders IMO.

red1
12-11-2019, 03:10 PM
danny green is dope. he's the perfect role player and a very intelligent guy which you can tell by the way he carries himself.


he wasnt even that good on the court had a bit of a shooting slump in the playoffs but you could tell all the guys on the team like him and you know he can get hot at any time.


if intangibles had a rating he'd get an A+

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
12-11-2019, 03:13 PM
He's just a popular name. You could get the same production from a few guys in the dleague. He's just solid. If you want a super-role player you need someone with more versatility like Marcus Smart who does many things well.

Yeah... if you disregard championship experience and things that go beyond a stat sheet. Like personality. Overall feel for the game. And impact.

https://basketball-analytics.gitlab.io/rapm-data/season/2018-19/regular-season/

AirBonner
12-11-2019, 03:13 PM
danny green is dope. he's the perfect role player and a very intelligent guy which you can tell by the way he carries himself.


he wasnt even that good on the court had a bit of a shooting slump in the playoffs but you could tell all the guys on the team like him and you know he can get hot at any time.


if intangibles had a rating he'd get an A+
to be honest you sound like you are describing him like most kobestans describe Kobe, using catch phrases like "intangibles" or "eye test"

red1
12-11-2019, 03:27 PM
to be honest you sound like you are describing him like most kobestans describe Kobe, using catch phrases like "intangibles" or "eye test"
intangibles simply means what you bring to the team that doesnt show up in the stat sheet or on the court. that's very simple and straightforward, its not a exactly a deep concept.


danny green was invaluable because he was the guy with playoff experience that kawhi already knew. that made kawhi's transition infinitely easier having him around, a guy he already had chemistry with and already won a chip with.


being a veteran presence, a character player or a good locker-room guy is a real thing. not to mention that he gave good insight on the yahoo podcast that he did.



danny absolutely is a guy with great intangibles.

sammichoffate
12-11-2019, 03:28 PM
He has a severely understated impact and as mentioned above, pretty much a modern day Shane Battier in SG form.

As far as being "major" like the OP...he absolutely has been. Everyone remembers the Heat series in 2013 but there's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu03hSuP6Ls

Probably the most fun I've had watching a game (and for those who give a shit about these things, probably Harlan's best called game in years)

A lot of Spurs fans turned on him because his shooting got even more streaky, and he would often turn into "Danny Bricks"... but he still shows up when it matters and his impact every game whether the shot is falling or not is tangible.

It wasn't until his signing that the Lakers were truly contenders IMO.That block on Harden still makes me laugh :oldlol:

Ainosterhaspie
12-11-2019, 04:21 PM
to be honest you sound like you are describing him like most kobestans describe Kobe, using catch phrases like "intangibles" or "eye test"
His team's gets noticibly better results while he's on the court. It shows up in impact stats. He's the sort of guy teams with championship aspersions need, but is not easy to find.

Spurs m8
12-11-2019, 04:27 PM
Spurs fans disagree.

He was painful to watch for the past couple of seasons...hence Spurs demanding Toronto take him

NBAGOAT
12-11-2019, 04:44 PM
His only flaw is he

Gotterdammerung
12-11-2019, 08:11 PM
[QUOTE=NBAGOAT]...Covington is similar and thts why he

NBAGOAT
12-11-2019, 08:51 PM
They're similar guys in which they play the same role as 3 and D, but Covington has had too many knee surgeries, and lacks the playoff exploits that made Danny Green a legend. :no:

career wise sure but i dont have that many injury concerns with covington