Anyone else think the media and politicians purposefully try to divide us...

[Shogon]

by class, race, sex, whatever... for selfish gain?

I mean, who among us doesn't think the media is ratings driven? As such, who believes the media doesn't benefit from dividing people?

Who among us doesn't think that politicians benefit from division? Who doesn't think that it furthers a lot of their careers and self interests?

Thought for the day(not that it's a new one)...

[fiddy]

Diving us? Who are you?

[Nanners]

They are definitely trying to divide us, but its not really about "selfish gain"... the right/left division is pushed by the media and politicians because the billionaires and corporate interests that own the media and politicians dont want the masses to figure out that the true political divide is not right vs left but top vs bottom.

The average lefty hippie and average righty redneck have a lot more in common with eachother than either of them have in common with the average sociopathic oligarch billionaire. If the right and left are ever able to set aside their manufactured differences, the elites will be in big trouble.

[Mr Exlax]

Nooooooooow we're talking. I don't think this.
, I know they are. Race, Sex, Sexual Preference, Religion, Political Party and Social Class. It's all to keep our attention away from the power inside of each and every one of us.

5 star thread. Would bang again

[FultzNationRISE]

They are definitely trying to divide us, but its not really about "selfish gain"... the right/left division is pushed by the media and politicians because the billionaires and corporate interests that own the media and politicians dont want the masses to figure out that the true political divide is not right vs left but top vs bottom.

The average lefty hippie and average righty redneck have a lot more in common with eachother than either of them have in common with the average sociopathic oligarch billionaire. If the right and left are ever able to set aside their manufactured differences, the elites will be in big trouble.


The division is certainly exacerbated and exploited by profiteers, but on a fundamental level humans are not only tribal by nature, but intrinsically wont to force their ways on others.

The government is the only entity with the legal authority to enforce mandates. The right has historically goaded its base into supporting legislation of its social values, the left has historically done so with economic values. Neither is in keeping with the concept of freedom which this country is ostensibly founded on. The whole idea of freedom is to prevent the whims of tribalistic mobs from dictating their views to everyone else via the government.

Obviously youre a big government guy, so there

[Nanners]

The division is certainly exacerbated and exploited by profiteers, but on a fundamental level humans are not only tribal by nature, but intrinsically wont to force their ways on others.

The government is the only entity with the legal authority to enforce mandates. The right has historically goaded its base into supporting legislation of its social values, the left has historically done so with economic values. Neither is in keeping with the concept of freedom which this country is ostensibly founded on. The whole idea of freedom is to prevent the whims of tribalistic mobs from dictating their views to everyone else via the government.

Obviously youre a big government guy, so there’s a bit of self unawareness going on when it comes to your comments.

But of course this is nothing new.

You are a perfect example of the type of obedient drone that the elites are trying to create with the propaganda and lies that spew through their media outlets.

In my post I talk about how the right and left have more in common than they realize, and that the right/left divide is manufactured to protect the elites... your response is to attempt to reinforce the division, and then suggest that average people need to be ruled to prevent them from "dictating their views to everyone else" (aka democracy).

Its not about whether the government is big or small you ****ing simpleton, ultimately the size doesnt really matter... what matters is whether the government acts in the best interests of the country and general public, or just a handful of oligarchs.

[warriorfan]

The other day I saw two cars with over the top bumper stickers. One with a bunch of Hilary stuff and another covered with Trump. When Akrazotile talks about the left being losers with no self perceived value themselves so they have to latch onto political opinions in order to make themselves feel validated... The exact same can be said for a lot of conservatives too. You can tell a lot of these guys want to be heard....but really don’t have anything original to say, so you see these endless Go Hillary, Jail Hillary, Orange Man Bad, no Orange Man Good “debates” that are a huge waste of everyone’s time.

[FultzNationRISE]

In my post I talk about how the right and left have more in common than they realize, and that the right/left divide is manufactured to protect the elites... your response is to attempt to reinforce the division,

My response was a realistic view of human social dynamics. People are naturally tribal. That is an evolutionary fact. I also acknowledged it is a phenomenon readily exploited and exacerbated by the avaricious.

Youre asserting humans are NOT evolved to separate into factions and compete physically and ideologically, but that it is entirely due to a conspiracy of the elites that we do not live in an entirely non-competitive utopian harmony :lol

And you have the nerve to call yourself a 'scientist' :roll:

You believe a fairy tale bro. Bernie is literally telling you children's bed time stories, and you're naive enough to think it's just that simple.

You're an embarrassment.


and then suggest that average people need to be ruled to prevent them from "dictating their views to everyone else" (aka democracy).

Uhhhhh, I said freedom was the solution to being dictated to by tribal mobs. Freedom is the opposite of "being ruled." You're literally claiming I said the opposite of what I clearly stated in print for all to see, ONE post above. Just so you can try to muddy the waters of the conversation so everyone here doesn't see what an inane fool you actually are when the conversation becomes more than mere slogans.



Its not about whether the government is big or small you ****ing simpleton, ultimately the size doesnt really matter... what matters is whether the government acts in the best interests of the country and general public, or just a handful of oligarchs.


What matters is government is limited so that peasants like you can't be convinced that granting Comrade Sanders unlimited authority is okay, just because he's promising you a few selfish and self-serving handouts in order to get elected. That's how the oligarch snowball gets rolling. Always with great government ideas for rescuing everyone.

Freedom will not be an advantage to everyone, nor will ANY system. But America was established as a melting pot. How can we embrace different views and cultures while not permitting people the ability to live on their own terms? Everyone doesn't want your socialist fairy tale junk. You do not have the right to impress it upon people who don't accept it you dumb, effeminate buffoon.

[macmac]

It is obvious that the powers that be are dividing the proletariat by the things you mentioned rather than making it a battle of rich vs poor. People worship the rich and wage war amongst themselves, leaving the rich to their own devices. It

[Mr Exlax]

I beg all of you to watch They Live. That movie was so far ahead of its time.

[FultzNationRISE]

It is obvious that the powers that be are dividing the proletariat by the things you mentioned rather than making it a battle of rich vs poor. People worship the rich and wage war amongst themselves, leaving the rich to their own devices. It’s a genius move really.


A genius move by whom?

Do you think these behaviors aren't a choice?

The society in which we live gives people the freedom to watch sports, read memes on twitter, hang out in the street and start fights, basically do whatever they wanna do.

If people wanna do that stuff instead of going to a city counsel meeting or researching the brands they consume, that's their prerogative. If they didn't have those freedoms, we'd be living like China and everyone would be complaining about that instead.

The public masses being comprised largely of meaningless, uneducated, unmotivated foolish jackasses isn't a calculated "genius move" by any person. Of course it's exploited mercilessly, but nobody 'makes' that the basic reality. It's just the way shit is.

Nobody wants to accept it. Nanners doesn't want to think he and all his friends are ordinary idiots. He wants to think they're getting screwed by a conspiracy. They think putting the right coach in charge of the Knicks will fix the roster issues. "If only they run the triangle, the'll win teh gameses!!!"

It aint the system.

It's the players.


Deal with it. :confusedshrug:

[Nanners]

I beg all of you to watch They Live. That movie was so far ahead of its time.

:applause:

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[CelticBaller]

They are definitely trying to divide us, but its not really about "selfish gain"... the right/left division is pushed by the media and politicians because the billionaires and corporate interests that own the media and politicians dont want the masses to figure out that the true political divide is not right vs left but top vs bottom.

The average lefty hippie and average righty redneck have a lot more in common with eachother than either of them have in common with the average sociopathic oligarch billionaire. If the right and left are ever able to set aside their manufactured differences, the elites will be in big trouble.
Eh I think you

[Nanners]

Eh I think you’re looking to much into it

I think it’s simple as more partisan news = more outrage which = more views and profit

How exactly does partisan news generate more views and profit than class based news?

When you are broadcasting partisan news you are only ever going to appeal to ~50% of people, but if you are broadcasting news thats focused on working class issues you can potentially appeal to +95% of people. Also, if its about outrage, the ways that our elites are ****ing over this country are far more outrage inducing than typical left/right issues like impeachment, abortion, or bathrooms for trannies.

Anyway, its not like anything I am saying is an original thought... its just manufacturing consent 101

[FultzNationRISE]

Eh I think you’re looking to much into it

I think it’s simple as more partisan news = more outrage which = more views and profit


This is definitely a big part of it. I have friends/family who work in the news business and I know with certainty broadcasters cant just air whatever they feel like. Most of these companies have shareholders to answer to.

That said, there’s definitely aversion to going after the rich and powerful without confidence it will pay off. What tv exec wants to burn powerful bridges for naught? If the people dont demand it (and they wont, bc theyre apathetic, they just wanna sit and watch something) then why bother? Of course networks are gonna throw softballs to the big players, if their dumb viewers are still gonna keep their eyes glued to the set regardless.

Businesses do whatever they can get away with. It’s always a balance between dumb average consumers, share holders, and powerful players. It just happens that the dumb average consumers are always the easiest to jerk around. Ambitious people tend to be smart and active. Always easier to ally with them than with a stupid public.

[Lebron6]

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]This is definitely a big part of it. I have friends/family who work in the news business and I know with certainty broadcasters cant just air whatever they feel like. Most of these companies have shareholders to answer to.

That said, there

[FultzNationRISE]

Hey bro Lebron is not even in the top 10. Nah. :rockon:


The FVCK are you talking about? :biggums:



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[Rolando]

They are definitely trying to divide us, but its not really about "selfish gain"... the right/left division is pushed by the media and politicians because the billionaires and corporate interests that own the media and politicians dont want the masses to figure out that the true political divide is not right vs left but top vs bottom.

The average lefty hippie and average righty redneck have a lot more in common with eachother than either of them have in common with the average sociopathic oligarch billionaire. If the right and left are ever able to set aside their manufactured differences, the elites will be in big trouble.

Yes. This exactly. All these social issues that people are fighting about are of little importance compared to how the wealth of the country is distrubuted. Those who are on top wish to stay there.

[Lebron6]

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]The FVCK are you talking about? :biggums:



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[Lebron6]

LeNarrative SMH.

[FultzNationRISE]

Yes. This exactly. All these social issues that people are fighting about are of little importance compared to how the wealth of the country is distrubuted. Those who are on top wish to stay there.


They are important if theyre being coerced upon unconsenting people by politicians.

Abortion laws, baking cakes for gaybos... if the government is trying to dictate how people live their lives, then yeah that’s kind of important.

Emphasis on states rights was supposed to prevent this type of national bickering, because people can choose to live where they feel best represented. But fools like you and danders dont realize that federal minimum wage laws, federal hiring laws, federal healthcare, federal handouts, federal everything is exactly what is dividing you from your more responsible and traditional neighbors. If youd drop that bullshit and mind your own life, there wouldnt be such a problem.


Durr doyyy deeee durrrr :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[FultzNationRISE]

It

[Norcaliblunt]

I seriously remember trippin on commercials as a kid. Prego vs Ragu, Energizer vs Duracell, ATT vs MCI, Nike vs Reebok, Aleve vs Tylenol. Lol.

[CelticBaller]

How exactly does partisan news generate more views and profit than class based news?

When you are broadcasting partisan news you are only ever going to appeal to ~50% of people, but if you are broadcasting news thats focused on working class issues you can potentially appeal to +95% of people. Also, if its about outrage, the ways that our elites are ****ing over this country are far more outrage inducing than typical left/right issues like impeachment, abortion, or bathrooms for trannies.

Anyway, its not like anything I am saying is an original thought... its just manufacturing consent 101
Because the elites are not people you see everyday. It

[Mr Exlax]

[QUOTE=CelticBaller]Because the elites are not people you see everyday. It

[Cleverness]

The media is about ratings and money. People tune in when they feel threatened.

Politicians divide people into victim groups. Victims seek help from that politician by voting for them.

[Shogon]

The media is about ratings and money. People tune in when they feel threatened.

Politicians divide people into victim groups. Victims seek help from that politician by voting for them.

This is a much more concise way of articulating what I was suggesting.

[Rocket]

The media is more about pushing narratives these days than actually reporting news so yes they are intentionally dividing us. Look no farther then the media pushing the bullcrap Russia collusion hoax and the current impeachment sham for proof.