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lilteapot
12-16-2019, 12:21 AM
and all signs point to it being absolute trash.

i would beat the shit out of rian johnson if i ever saw his punkass IRL for causing this disjointed mess.

Shogon
12-16-2019, 12:46 AM
Well uh I hate to tell you but all of the Star Wars movies from the past 4 or 5 years have sucked absolute balls. The one scene where Vader comes out of the darkness was the only redeeming moment out of all of the Disney films and that lasted all of what? 60 seconds? 90?

Anyways...

This movie is going to suck.

But as far as good reviews go... it's either going to be a huge hit in both reviews and the box office or it's going to be a major bomb with the reviews and probably still do well at the box office. There are only like 3 or 4 days until it premieres and no reviews yet... typically not a good sign, but it could just mean they're being extremely tight lipped with spoilers.







Star Wars stopped being Star Wars the moment that Lucas stopped being at the helm. I don't care what anyone says... even the new trilogy from 1999 & the early 2000s was pretty decent. Phantom Menace is a good film(well as good as Star Wars goes anyways) that received a ton of shit and hate because it was never going to live up to the hype of a damn near 25 year absence or whatever it was.

The Disney Star Wars movies are all absolute garbage. They are atrociously bad.

egokiller
12-16-2019, 12:59 AM
Idiots need to stop trying to recreate a GOAT viewing experience.

You’re NOT going to recreate the experience of the first 3 movies.

You’re NOT going to recreate the experience of watching GOAT MJ.

You’re NOT going to recreate the experience of watching the GOAT Jerry Rice.

Just stop, it’s all embarrassing and mediocre attempts that all fall short.

scuzzy
12-16-2019, 01:06 AM
who cares the OT isn't anything special anyways, it only was for it's time and certainly not a timeless classic (hence why they had to remaster and reanimate the entire OT)


they're 6.5/10 films that has a huge fanboy following of it's lore, that's it


it's not like big dick Chris Nolan is refacing the series like he did with Batman

lilteapot
12-16-2019, 01:12 AM
Well uh I hate to tell you but all of the Star Wars movies from the past 4 or 5 years have sucked absolute balls. The one scene where Vader comes out of the darkness was the only redeeming moment out of all of the Disney films and that lasted all of what? 60 seconds? 90?

Anyways...

This movie is going to suck.

But as far as good reviews go... it's either going to be a huge hit in both reviews and the box office or it's going to be a major bomb with the reviews and probably still do well at the box office. There are only like 3 or 4 days until it premieres and no reviews yet... typically not a good sign, but it could just mean they're being extremely tight lipped with spoilers.







Star Wars stopped being Star Wars the moment that Lucas stopped being at the helm. I don't care what anyone says... even the new trilogy from 1999 & the early 2000s was pretty decent. Phantom Menace is a good film(well as good as Star Wars goes anyways) that received a ton of shit and hate because it was never going to live up to the hype of a damn near 25 year absence or whatever it was.

The Disney Star Wars movies are all absolute garbage. They are atrociously bad.

TFA and Rogue One especially were awesome. Rogue One is top 3 star wars movie after 5 and 4 IMO.

Shogon
12-16-2019, 01:17 AM
TFA and Rogue One especially were awesome. Rogue One is top 3 star wars movie after 5 and 4 IMO.

No, they were ****ing garbage.

lilteapot
12-16-2019, 01:20 AM
No, they were ****ing garbage.
you're garbage you piece of shit. dont act like i wont smack the shit out of you bitch.

scuzzy
12-16-2019, 01:25 AM
Be happy that they're wrapping up ties on all these old characters.



It's time to take the franchise in a new direction (like Aliens did with Prometheus/Covenant)



Time for THE OLD REPUBLIC (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuNvCOUy1Ts)

coin24
12-16-2019, 01:26 AM
Rogue one was ok, everything else has been hot garbage..

Actually the only parts I really liked were the Vader scenes:lol

lilteapot
12-16-2019, 01:38 AM
Be happy that they're wrapping up ties on all these old characters.



It's time to take the franchise in a new direction (like Aliens did with Prometheus/Covenant)



Time for THE OLD REPUBLIC (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuNvCOUy1Ts)

Yeah a new trilogy about the old republic would be awesome if they got the right people to write it. it would also be amazing if they came out with KOTOR 3 but alas that will never happen

FultzNationRISE
12-16-2019, 02:11 AM
If youve liked the Disney formula until this point youll probably like whatever theyre releasing this month. And next month, and the month after.


Just like if you liked the big mac and the mcchicken, youll probably love the mcrib. Mcdonalds doesnt just start putting out duck a l’orange with grilled asparagus and a mushroom terragon sauce. They know who their customers are and what they expect.

Commercial movie franchises are like that too.

Enjoy your Happy Meal.

bladefd
12-16-2019, 04:37 AM
Well, based on the trailers so far, it seems definite that Palpatine never died. He was already old, and it has been like 30 years since his "death." That means he must have spent 30 years figuring out his master Darth Plagues' immortality that he talked about with Anakin in episode 3. I don't think he figured out timetravel or whatever else.

I wonder what else he was doing all that time.. Perhaps Darth Vader never died either and the one from ep6 may have been just a clone?? Or perhaps Palpatine created a huge number of Vader clones in those 30 years? He could have also been rebuilding the Imperial fleet? Or maybe he was busy conquering the uncharted territories at the outer rim with that fleet and he finally decides to return home (bit like Thrawn if you are familiar with him from Star Wars Rebels)? Perhaps Palpatine was the chosen one all this time rather than Anakin?? Or the chosen one aka original Anakin is still alive and he dies for good here with his master Palpatine? It raises so many crazy & interesting possibilities, but it's also theories until we see the movie. Trailers are often intentionally misleading.

lilteapot
12-16-2019, 08:12 AM
Well, based on the trailers so far, it seems definite that Palpatine never died. He was already old, and it has been like 30 years since his "death." That means he must have spent 30 years figuring out his master Darth Plagues' immortality that he talked about with Anakin in episode 3. I don't think he figured out timetravel or whatever else.

I wonder what else he was doing all that time.. Perhaps Darth Vader never died either and the one from ep6 may have been just a clone?? Or perhaps Palpatine created a huge number of Vader clones in those 30 years? He could have also been rebuilding the Imperial fleet? Or maybe he was busy conquering the uncharted territories at the outer rim with that fleet and he finally decides to return home (bit like Thrawn if you are familiar with him from Star Wars Rebels)? Perhaps Palpatine was the chosen one all this time rather than Anakin?? Or the chosen one aka original Anakin is still alive and he dies for good here with his master Palpatine? It raises so many crazy & interesting possibilities, but it's also theories until we see the movie. Trailers are often intentionally misleading.


so basically episode 6 was worthless then.

stalkerforlife
12-16-2019, 08:22 AM
I've never seen any of them.

Are any of them must watch?

nayte
12-16-2019, 08:57 AM
God's my 8 yr old has been watching Jessie on Disney plus. There's your problem with Disney and movies in a nutshell.

chains5000
12-16-2019, 09:03 AM
I've never seen any of them.

Are any of them must watch?
Only the ones with the guy who played Charles Xavier in the first X-men movies. The ones with Kirk and Spock suck.
waiting for fools

rufuspaul
12-16-2019, 09:24 AM
I've never seen any of them.

Are any of them must watch?


The original Star Wars is good because you get the background. The ending is cheesy though. The Empire Strikes Back is excellent. Probably one of the best films of the 80s.

nathanjizzle
12-16-2019, 09:27 AM
were 4 days away folks. its going to be epic

CelticBaller
12-16-2019, 11:34 AM
The prequels are better and that

bison
12-16-2019, 12:00 PM
The prequels are literally unwatchable. The stiff acting, shallow characters, incoherent plot line, cringe dialogue and the ugly overloaded CGI backgrounds that rapes your eyes in nearly every scene has aged horribly. Anyone who says the prequels are better is probably a dumb angry Nazi flunkie who wants to shoot up a school because they made the main character a woman.

Smoke117
12-16-2019, 12:32 PM
I'm just completely apathetic about it after the shit show that was The Last Jedi. Only thing Star Wars related that I care about is the Obi Wan series, though, I'm sure disney will find a way to ruin that, too.

Smoke117
12-16-2019, 12:37 PM
The prequels are literally unwatchable. The stiff acting, shallow characters, incoherent plot line, cringe dialogue and the ugly overloaded CGI backgrounds that rapes your eyes in nearly every scene has aged horribly. Anyone who says the prequels are better is probably a dumb angry Nazi flunkie who wants to shoot up a school because they made the main character a woman.

You sure you didn't mean to post this on Tumblr? Yikes.

red1
12-16-2019, 12:39 PM
Im looking forward to it. Bringing the emperor back is a good idea IMO because most of the new characters suck, especially the new villain who comes across like a *****.


The last movie had some of the best action scenes I've seen in a star wars movie including the opening space battle. They just need stronger characters.

CelticBaller
12-16-2019, 02:02 PM
The prequels are literally unwatchable. The stiff acting, shallow characters, incoherent plot line, cringe dialogue and the ugly overloaded CGI backgrounds that rapes your eyes in nearly every scene has aged horribly. Anyone who says the prequels are better is probably a dumb angry Nazi flunkie who wants to shoot up a school because they made the main character a woman.
And Despite all of that they’re still better

Better characters
Better lore
Better fight scenes
Better plot

sammichoffate
12-16-2019, 02:31 PM
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]And Despite all of that they

Draz
12-16-2019, 02:53 PM
Never seen star wars or lord of the rings

hiphopanonymous
12-16-2019, 03:05 PM
Star Wars is a vision and a story told exclusively by George Lucas, and nobody else. He cared about his story he created and pursued it with passion so it was engaging. He made money as a result of the passion showing through.

Disney is a massive corporation, that just want to make money. And George Lucas sold the rights to continue them because he was getting older and felt jaded by all the fan backlash for his prequels which for all their flaws were actually vastly superior to the crap disney has tried to make IMHO. He wanted the employees he'd been able to build up at ILM and Lucasfilm to still have jobs. He reluctantly sold his lifes work thinking it was maybe in good hands with Disney.

George is the type of dude you'd want telling you a story as a kid. He's a creative visionary for the whole star wars thing whether he's perfect at filmmaking or not. His movie making quirks if anything, made his stuff feel that much more original. The guy was anti hollywood (anti corporate) and it made his movies and stories better not worse in my opinion. Disney is basically the same corporate entity that George hated in Hollywood, a massive corporation making PC stuff intending to offend nobody and please everybody, designed by a committee which paradoxically makes the stories and movies they put out seem fraudulent and lifeless by comparison. They lack direction, they lack purpose, they lack the clarity of one gifted story tellers vision. They have distracting political and social agendas. They straight up suck.

If I wanted to know what happens after Luke and Vader dispatched the Emperor I'd only be interested to listen to what Lucas had to say on the topic. The Disney stuff isn't legit. I saw the Farce awakens and hated it. The one after I couldn't even skim through scenes it was pure trash. Don't care about this next one even slightly.

Derka
12-16-2019, 03:18 PM
Lmao. The four saga films Lucas solely wrote and directed are barely watchable garbage that were bailed out by superior acting talent and a gifted special effects team. Thank God they took Empire and Jedi away from him and Disney gave him four billion reasons to mostly take a hike for the sequel trilogy.

Fun fact: the Ewoks and Jar Jar Binks exist solely because George Lucas wanted to sell toys, not because they’re a critical part of some all-encompassing artistic vision.

hiphopanonymous
12-16-2019, 03:46 PM
[QUOTE=Derka]Lmao. The four saga films Lucas solely wrote and directed are barely watchable garbage that were bailed out by superior acting talent and a gifted special effects team. Thank God they took Empire and Jedi away from him and Disney gave him four billion reasons to mostly take a hike for the sequel trilogy.

Fun fact: the Ewoks and Jar Jar Binks exist solely because George Lucas wanted to sell toys, not because they

egokiller
12-16-2019, 03:54 PM
As long as we continue to allow bitch ass soy boy cucks like the one in the video below to exist, the film makers will continue to release mediocre Star Wars films as that is their target audience. Losers like this literally did not exist when the first films came out. Yes, you had nerds.. but even those nerds were exponentially higher on the food chain that these soy boy cucks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ug2DOoxJ1g

hiphopanonymous
12-16-2019, 04:04 PM
As long as we continue to allow bitch ass soy boy cucks like the one in the video below to exist, the film makers will continue to release mediocre Star Wars films as that is their target audience. Losers like this literally did not exist when the first films came out. Yes, you had nerds.. but even those nerds were exponentially higher on the food chain that these soy boy cucks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ug2DOoxJ1g
:roll: :roll: :roll: what!??????

That can't be real wow.

The best reaction video so far is this one:

https://youtu.be/_MuxVqB3I7E?t=24

Fake as it is, that's prob exactly what the real lucas thinks :oldlol:

egokiller
12-16-2019, 04:07 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: what!??????

That can't be real wow.

The best reaction video so far is this one:

https://youtu.be/_MuxVqB3I7E?t=24

Fake as it is, that's prob exactly what the real lucas thinks :oldlol:

:roll:

bladefd
12-16-2019, 04:07 PM
so basically episode 6 was worthless then.

6 and 8 both for different reasons. 8 only because it was written by a whole different team of writers and directed by someone separate. Disney, being the greedy ba$tards they are, want to release a new star wars every other year so they assign different crews to work on them. They will have to make puzzles in 9 fit with 8.

sammichoffate
12-16-2019, 04:51 PM
Rogue One is still better than everything they've released so far, which is sad.

lilteapot
12-16-2019, 05:16 PM
[QUOTE=Derka]

Fun fact: the Ewoks and Jar Jar Binks exist solely because George Lucas wanted to sell toys, not because they

Rocket
12-16-2019, 05:49 PM
I will never see another movie as long as that bitch Kathleen Kennedy is in charge. She has ruined Star Wars. After the Last Jedi trash I have swore off of it until she is removed. Up until I saw the trash that was TLJ, I had attended opening day of every single movie going back to The Last Hope. Solo was the first movie I skipped.

ROCSteady
12-16-2019, 06:35 PM
The Phantom Menace is not nearly as bad as it’s reputation in Nerdland

bladefd
12-16-2019, 06:53 PM
[QUOTE=ROCSteady]The Phantom Menace is not nearly as bad as it

Shogon
12-16-2019, 06:56 PM
Not even worth watching..

Best order to watch Star Wars..

4 (get introduced to everything and the main characters)
5 ("I am your father" comes up so then you want a flashback of how that all went down)

2
3

Conclude with 6 that ends the series

Don't even bother watching episode 1. It is not necessary and irrelevant to the story as a whole. Just remember that Anakin is very powerful in the force since childhood. Nothing else matters from episode 1.

That's actually not true at all. I haven't seen that movie in a long ass time but it gives you a great bit of context as to why Anakin ends up the way he does from a personality and background standpoint.

You're just some idiot that ate up all the "Episode 1 sucks" popular opinion bullshit.

Shogon
12-16-2019, 07:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ug2DOoxJ1g

Oh... my... HOLY ****ING SHIT!!!


LLLLLLLLLLMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOO there's no way.

There's just no way.

It's like someone stuck him with a massive needle and sucked literally EVERY ounce of testosterone out of his body.

Holy ****!!! LMAO.

keep-itreal
12-16-2019, 07:36 PM
Modern movies are now completely unwatchable for me. To me these aren't movies, they're all just propaganda filled with SJW/Leftism/Cultural Marxism. It's sickening really

Derka
12-16-2019, 07:59 PM
You can enjoy your corporate designed star wars there's nothing wrong with that. I personally don't enjoy them even slightly.

I enjoyed Lucas' original stories though, regardless of his directorial flaws. I mean, he did invent the whole concept so I'm not even sure how people think his stories could be done or told better if reinvented somehow by anyone other than him it's kind of a weird concept to me. If he isn't saying what happens how is it even star wars anymore?

This is just opinion based, so to each their own. There are merits to corporate made movies, and there are flaws to one man going off on his own unrestrained but I'll take the creative end product of a visionary over the well polished but pointless factory made fluff that corporations like Disney tend to make 9 times out of ten.
What

Derka
12-16-2019, 08:00 PM
How are the porgs any different?
Who said anything about the porgs being different? Or BB-8 for that matter?

egokiller
12-16-2019, 08:09 PM
Oh... my... HOLY ****ING SHIT!!!


LLLLLLLLLLMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOO there's no way.

There's just no way.

It's like someone stuck him with a massive needle and sucked literally EVERY ounce of testosterone out of his body.

Holy ****!!! LMAO.

Yes way. These soy boy cucks are everywhere. Yes it's more pu55y for everyone else since no female would touch them with a 9 foot pole, but still...

FultzNationRISE
12-16-2019, 08:11 PM
Yes way. These soy boy cucks are everywhere. Yes it's more pu55y for everyone else since no female would touch them with a 9 foot pole, but still...


Yeah but unfortunately theres more haram green-haired wildebeasts than ever too, so in practice the ratios remain roughly equivalent.

Smoke117
12-16-2019, 08:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ug2DOoxJ1g

:biggums: :oldlol:

bladefd
12-16-2019, 09:06 PM
That's actually not true at all. I haven't seen that movie in a long ass time but it gives you a great bit of context as to why Anakin ends up the way he does from a personality and background standpoint.

You're just some idiot that ate up all the "Episode 1 sucks" popular opinion bullshit.

Episode 1 is crap. I think Qui-Gon Jin is cool along with Darth Maul, young Obi & Queen Amidala. Still none of them as they are in ep1 are necessary to understand the rise of Anakin/Vader. Entire Jar-jar story is a mess. Writing is clanky. The writing quality is in a different universe than 4/5/6.

Shogon
12-16-2019, 09:09 PM
Episode 1 is crap. I think Qui-Gon Jin is cool along with Darth Maul, young Obi & Queen Amidala. Still none of them as they are in ep1 are necessary to understand the rise of Anakin/Vader. Entire Jar-jar story is a mess. Writing is clanky. The writing quality is in a different universe than 4/5/6.

Episode 1 is so much better than Attack of the Clones it's not even worth mentioning.

Episode 1 gets hated on because there was a 15 year gap or whatever and nothing could ever possibly live up to that hype.


Here it goes... Episode 5 > Episode 4 > Episode 3 > Episode 1 > Episode 2 > Episode 6

Ewoks are the most annoying thing in the history of Star Wars. Jar Jar wasn't that bad.

bladefd
12-16-2019, 09:16 PM
Episode 1 is so much better than Attack of the Clones it's not even worth mentioning.

Episode 1 gets hated on because there was a 15 year gap or whatever and nothing could ever possibly live up to that hype.


Here it goes... Episode 5 > Episode 4 > Episode 3 > Episode 1 > Episode 2 > Episode 6

Ewoks are the most annoying thing in the history of Star Wars. Jar Jar wasn't that bad.

My ranking:
5
4
6
3
2
1

lilteapot
12-16-2019, 10:05 PM
Episode 1 is so much better than Attack of the Clones it's not even worth mentioning.

Episode 1 gets hated on because there was a 15 year gap or whatever and nothing could ever possibly live up to that hype.


Here it goes... Episode 5 > Episode 4 > Episode 3 > Episode 1 > Episode 2 > Episode 6

Ewoks are the most annoying thing in the history of Star Wars. Jar Jar wasn't that bad.

Episode 1 isnt that bad its just really boring and jar jar is awfully annoying. but yes it's way better than AOTC which is the worst star wars movie (even worse than TLJ(

5
4
7
6
3
8
1
2
is my order.

People hate TFA saying it was a new hope remake and i get it but there was so much more to it. reys parentage, the lightsaber vision, snoke, Finn, Phasma, so many things and questions that were raised, only for Rian Johnson to squash them and say none of it really mattered. the whole movie had me thinking "what does this mean? where is this leading to?" and then TLJ was just like "nothing lol"

Smoke117
12-16-2019, 10:26 PM
Episode 1 is so much better than Attack of the Clones it's not even worth mentioning.

Episode 1 gets hated on because there was a 15 year gap or whatever and nothing could ever possibly live up to that hype.


Here it goes... Episode 5 > Episode 4 > Episode 3 > Episode 1 > Episode 2 > Episode 6

Ewoks are the most annoying thing in the history of Star Wars. Jar Jar wasn't that bad.

Episode 1 gets hated on because it's garbage. Easily the worst of the prequels. Every repeated viewing only makes me think worse of it.

Joshumitsu
12-16-2019, 10:28 PM
Damn, guess the leaks are definitely true now lol.

Don't read and look if you don't want to see SPOILERS obviously:

edit since pics deleted: https://imgur.com/a/ppOuokt


Going by the leaks, this film pretty much negates the OT and PT by undoing Anakin's prophecy. The sequels also pretty much say Luke, Leia, and Han's story is no longer relevant...because here are the REAL heroes who will defeat the bad guy and actually accomplish anything meaningful.

It honestly looks like it will be the best film in the trilogy but I think fans are going to be even more divided by its story.

lilteapot
12-16-2019, 10:34 PM
Damn, guess the leaks are definitely true now lol.

Don't read and look if you don't want to see SPOILERS obviously:

https://i.redd.it/k62snfeqc3541.jpg

https://i.redd.it/z6np3jnu63541.jpg

https://i.redd.it/99wfkmugf3541.jpg

https://i.redd.it/68qcmqi893541.jpg


Going by the leaks, this film pretty much negates the OT and PT by undoing Anakin's prophecy. The sequels also pretty much say Luke, Leia, and Han's story is no longer relevant...because here are the REAL heroes who will defeat the bad guy and actually accomplish anything meaningful.

It honestly looks like it will be the best film in the trilogy but I think fans are going to be even more divided by its story.

damn man. im gonna hate it.

Joshumitsu
12-16-2019, 10:42 PM
Yeah, I personally hope it loses money even if I think some parts will actually be good. It will still make a billion but if it is panned as a failure of sorts, it will force Disney to re-evaluate their shit (because how do you f*ck up by not having Luke, Leia, and Han do anything meaningful?).

Hopefully, the rest means Kathleen Kennedy resigns in 2021 and Rian Johnson is kicked out for good.

lilteapot
12-16-2019, 10:45 PM
GOT's ending was a major botch but i didnt care about that series nearly as much as Star Wars.

I cant even blame JJ for this, man. He tried to clean up a mess rian johnson created.

Honestly I feel like TLJ was better suited as the final episode in the trilogy. end it with Luke dying and showing that everyone has the force in them. that would be perfect.

CelticBaller
12-16-2019, 10:48 PM
Damn, guess the leaks are definitely true now lol.

Don't read and look if you don't want to see SPOILERS obviously:

https://i.redd.it/k62snfeqc3541.jpg

https://i.redd.it/z6np3jnu63541.jpg

https://i.redd.it/99wfkmugf3541.jpg

https://i.redd.it/68qcmqi893541.jpg


Going by the leaks, this film pretty much negates the OT and PT by undoing Anakin's prophecy. The sequels also pretty much say Luke, Leia, and Han's story is no longer relevant...because here are the REAL heroes who will defeat the bad guy and actually accomplish anything meaningful.

It honestly looks like it will be the best film in the trilogy but I think fans are going to be even more divided by its story.
What a joke lol

bladefd
12-16-2019, 11:24 PM
GOT's ending was a major botch but i didnt care about that series nearly as much as Star Wars.

I cant even blame JJ for this, man. He tried to clean up a mess rian johnson created.

Honestly I feel like TLJ was better suited as the final episode in the trilogy. end it with Luke dying and showing that everyone has the force in them. that would be perfect.

7 and 8 have very different objectives and vision so it kind of messed up the trilogy. If 7/8 were by same writing crew or 8/9 were by same writing crew, there would be more continuity. 7/9 being by one crew and 8 by another crew makes it a clusterfu<k trying to fit the storylines together as writers.

hiphopanonymous
12-17-2019, 12:23 AM
What’s with the corporate thing? You do realize that the first six movies were made by 20th Century Fox, right? They’re as corporate as it gets. Lucas is not some small indie film maker.
Lucas got contractual rights by 20th century to BE what was basically a rogue indie film maker for Star Wars if you weren't aware of that. That's why I lean on that, it's part of why Star Wars was able to be such a stark contrast from other late 1970's movies which used to always for example, show credits in the beginning of the movie not the end and the genres were typically downbeat cop movies, westerns, or if outer space it was downbeat and dull and clinically clean as opposed to Lucas' fantasy style coming of age adventure film where space technology was just a backdrop and portrayed as weathered and aged. Lucas was given a ton of rope to stray from Hollywood even for the first trilogy and then for the prequels wasn't even remotely tied down by it.

It's a legit difference between his films and the Disney ones. His films are his one singular vision where he fought to keep them as untarnished by corporate regulation as possible. Disney is very corporate, and their corporate agenda shines through as a result (PC, safe fan money making elements like nostalgia and repeating what they thought fans liked instead of being bold and visionary, a safe total lack of creativity in world building etc). Problem is they screwed up the formula. And erased the original heroes, tactlessly and pointlessly. They straight up just shouldn't have had any of the original characters in them if they were just going to be used as disposable hacks and has-beens.

MrFonzworth
12-17-2019, 01:55 AM
As long as we continue to allow bitch ass soy boy cucks like the one in the video below to exist, the film makers will continue to release mediocre Star Wars films as that is their target audience. Losers like this literally did not exist when the first films came out. Yes, you had nerds.. but even those nerds were exponentially higher on the food chain that these soy boy cucks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ug2DOoxJ1g
The comment section:roll::roll::roll:

greymatter
12-17-2019, 10:32 PM
Well, based on the trailers so far, it seems definite that Palpatine never died. He was already old, and it has been like 30 years since his "death." That means he must have spent 30 years figuring out his master Darth Plagues' immortality that he talked about with Anakin in episode 3. I don't think he figured out timetravel or whatever else.

No, he died. If you want to go by novel lore, he had clones of himself stored away. In any case, the movies aren't bound by any of the novel sequels/spinoffs that came after RoTJ.


I wonder what else he was doing all that time.. Perhaps Darth Vader never died either and the one from ep6 may have been just a clone?? Or perhaps Palpatine created a huge number of Vader clones in those 30 years? He could have also been rebuilding the Imperial fleet? Or maybe he was busy conquering the uncharted territories at the outer rim with that fleet and he finally decides to return home (bit like Thrawn if you are familiar with him from Star Wars Rebels)? Perhaps Palpatine was the chosen one all this time rather than Anakin?? Or the chosen one aka original Anakin is still alive and he dies for good here with his master Palpatine? It raises so many crazy & interesting possibilities, but it's also theories until we see the movie. Trailers are often intentionally misleading.

FYI, the president of Lucasfilms (Kathleen Kennedy) was photographed wearing a t-shirt saying "the force is female". I'm guessing that whatever plot they go with, the fanbois just hope Lucasfilm's president had 0 responsibility for creative decisions with the plot. She was apparently largely responsible for wanting all the primary female characters to be powerful and in control while making the men a bunch of hotheads (Kylo, Dameron), clowns (Finn), or whiney emo bitches (Luke) in the last film.

bigkingsfan
12-17-2019, 11:09 PM
Shit, don't wanna watch in theater, but spoilers troll will be out in full force.

bladefd
12-17-2019, 11:47 PM
Shit, don't wanna watch in theater, but spoilers troll will be out in full force.

Same :banghead:

Joshumitsu
12-18-2019, 12:10 AM
If none of y'all want to pay for this $hit but still want to watch it, just purchase tickets for a film you think deserves your money.

Then, walk into a showing of Star Wars and take an empty seat. There you go, now you won't feel as bad.

Obviously, you'd want to pick a showing with less people so you don't get kicked out.

Facepalm
12-18-2019, 12:13 AM
who cares the OT isn't anything special anyways, it only was for it's time and certainly not a timeless classic (hence why they had to remaster and reanimate the entire OT)


they're 6.5/10 films that has a huge fanboy following of it's lore, that's it


it's not like big dick Chris Nolan is refacing the series like he did with Batman
This. Watch the OT again without the nostalgia and you will realize they really weren't all that great. It was great for the kids of the time, and it ushered in a bunch of copy cats, but by no means are they some kind of artistic cinema.

scuzzy
12-18-2019, 12:21 AM
Shit, don't wanna watch in theater, but spoilers troll will be out in full force.
I'm opposite

Don't even really like Star Wars but they're made to be seen in theatres so it's the only way I can watch them.


Probably catch a early matinee few days after

Shogon
12-18-2019, 12:26 AM
The OT was good.

The acting was putrid save a few like Harrison Ford and the dialogue was putrid.

But the storytelling was good and we were still learning about that world.

Now it's just forced garbage. The story line blows ass now. The dialogue and acting is much improved as well as the special effects but yet they're massively inferior movies. Why? Storytelling. Plain and simple.

bladefd
12-18-2019, 03:14 AM
If none of y'all want to pay for this $hit but still want to watch it, just purchase tickets for a film you think deserves your money.

Then, walk into a showing of Star Wars and take an empty seat. There you go, now you won't feel as bad.

Obviously, you'd want to pick a showing with less people so you don't get kicked out.

Opening weekend for Star Wars will be packed. I hate going to full show so I will just have to wait 2 weeks

bladefd
12-18-2019, 03:24 AM
The OT was good.

The acting was putrid save a few like Harrison Ford and the dialogue was putrid.

But the storytelling was good and we were still learning about that world.

Now it's just forced garbage. The story line blows ass now. The dialogue and acting is much improved as well as the special effects but yet they're massively inferior movies. Why? Storytelling. Plain and simple.

Story is half the game, brotha. Without a compelling story, everything else including acting/directing/special effects/cinematography/editing/etc is pointless. What's the point of anything if your story sucks?

All art must have some sort of story behind it for that art to hold meaning to us. We can juxtapose it with the very essence of life itself. Life is meaningless and pointless if we did not have a story behind us, who we are, where we have been, what we have done, what we stand for, and how we have led our lives in whichever direction we choose to go & whatever legacy we leave behind. What separates humanity from other animals is our ability to question, and behind every question lies a story.

So you are completely correct and on the money. Storytelling of 4/5/6 was special and memorable. 7/8 have lacked that factor.

lilteapot
12-18-2019, 07:22 AM
well reviews are out and the movie does suck.

i need to take a break from the outside world.

scuzzy
12-18-2019, 07:42 AM
Rotten Tomatoes: 58%

Metacritic: 53/100



damn, fanboys are going to be mega salt

scuzzy
12-18-2019, 08:07 AM
The Rise of Skywalker is, for want of a better word, completely manic: It leaps from plot point to plot point, from location to location, with little regard for logic or mood.

The Rise of Skywalker, conversely, is overly obsessed with the past, with Abrams perhaps thinking that tying the arcs of its heroes to decades-old films will somehow increase their significance. Instead, it heightens the incoherence.


Pretty much the consensus on all the reviews


Looks like it's crammed with nostalgic bait leaving little meaning to the current trilogy and a ton of irrelevant side quests


They should have made these SW films 3 hours in length imo, too many plot points to stuff in

Trollsmasher
12-18-2019, 08:13 AM
confirmed garbage

stop watching Disney shit, manchildren

i haven't seen a movie in 5 years, never been more clear minded

scuzzy
12-18-2019, 08:22 AM
Marvel showed that you can still cram in loads of heros and still come out with a decent product in Avengers


I don't understand why it's so hard to make a decent SW film or god forbid why they would decide to make a trilogy with three different writers

superduper
12-18-2019, 12:02 PM
What do people here think of Mandalorian?

rufuspaul
12-18-2019, 12:38 PM
confirmed garbage

stop watching Disney shit, manchildren

i haven't seen a movie in 5 years, never been more clear minded


Yet Pixar still puts out great stuff. I'm guessing the Disney peeps have taken a hands off approach with them.

egokiller
12-18-2019, 12:43 PM
Lets be honest, some of the reactions from these loser incels on the internet are more entertaining than the movies themselves. Kelly Marie Tran, who played Rose Tico in The Last Jedi for instance received numerous death threats from incel neckbeards who's mother's should have swallowed. Yes, I get it that these lonely non pu$$y getting failures at life are upset that star wars featured a female hero, but they embarrass themselves further by showing the world that they can't contain their emotions and allow their emotions to cause them to make death threats. :oldlol: It's just a bad look all around as serves no purpose other than to bring themselves one step closer to suicide. And people wonder why soy boy neck beard incels get bullied and cucked by us alphas? It's because of shit like this. :oldlol:

Derka
12-18-2019, 12:56 PM
What do people here think of Mandalorian?
Cruises by on "feeling" because the main characters look like Boba Fett and Yoda and that's all the legion of man-children who jerked out their first awkward pre-teen load to pictures of Carrie Fisher in a bikini need to call it brilliant, which it objectively isn't.

Six episodes in with #7 dropping today and it feels like nothing of import has happened at all. He was in the guild and then he wasn't. That's all.

DCL
12-18-2019, 01:00 PM
i already saw it.

the movie was about 6.3 out of 10

and i'm only giving that high of score because star wars used to be my shit.

the movie will still go on to become a blockbuster by default, but it's a one-and-done for me.

bigkingsfan
12-18-2019, 03:07 PM
Lets be honest, some of the reactions from these loser incels on the internet are more entertaining than the movies themselves. Kelly Marie Tran, who played Rose Tico in The Last Jedi for instance received numerous death threats from incel neckbeards who's mother's should have swallowed. Yes, I get it that these lonely non pu$$y getting failures at life are upset that star wars featured a female hero, but they embarrass themselves further by showing the world that they can't contain their emotions and allow their emotions to cause them to make death threats. :oldlol: It's just a bad look all around as serves no purpose other than to bring themselves one step closer to suicide. And people wonder why soy boy neck beard incels get bullied and cucked by us alphas? It's because of shit like this. :oldlol:
Dude always sounds so cringey and pretends to be hard for someone that had to abandon an account because the result of a sporting event.

Smoke117
12-18-2019, 03:23 PM
Dude always sounds so cringey and pretends to be hard for someone that had to abandon an account because the result of a sporting event.

:roll: :roll: He is legitimately the biggest loser on a board full of all time contenders .

rufuspaul
12-18-2019, 03:41 PM
Abrams is too slick and shallow a filmmaker to endow the dramas of repression and insurgency, of family fate and individual destiny, of solidarity and the will to power, with their full moral and metaphysical weight. At the same time, his pseudo-visionary self-importance won’t allow him to surrender to whimsy or mischief. The struggle of good against evil feels less like a cosmic battle than a longstanding sports rivalry between teams whose glory days are receding. The head coaches come and go, the uniforms are redesigned, certain key players are the subjects of trade rumors, and the fans keep showing up.


Ouch!

egokiller
12-18-2019, 03:41 PM
Didn't take long for that comment to trigger the incels. :lol

kurple
12-18-2019, 06:34 PM
Dude always sounds so cringey and pretends to be hard for someone that had to abandon an account because the result of a sporting event.
everything he said is right tho

kurple
12-18-2019, 06:35 PM
just watched it. first 45 was too Disney IMO, but the last 1.5 hours was amazing. Amazing scenery and story

Lebron23
12-18-2019, 06:47 PM
Dude always sounds so cringey and pretends to be hard for someone that had to abandon an account because the result of a sporting event.
Straight-altin. Dude is so full of himself
Might watch these film this coming Monday.

eliteballer
12-19-2019, 01:17 AM
Getting bad reviews..

coin24
12-19-2019, 01:37 AM
Just watched the Jeremy jahns non spoiler review and this guy usually finds the positive in most things..

Sounds like this movie is a total clusterfu*k:facepalm

DCL
12-19-2019, 02:22 AM
if you have low expectations, i think your experience might be better.

don't overthink shit.

just try to watch it as a dumb ass child without any questions. :oldlol:

eliteballer
12-20-2019, 05:21 AM
Worst Star Wars movie yet, absolutely terrible.

eliteballer
12-20-2019, 05:23 AM
Sounds like this movie is a total clusterfu*k:facepalm
Perfect description.

sammichoffate
12-20-2019, 11:49 AM
Just watched the Jeremy jahns non spoiler review and this guy usually finds the positive in most things..

Sounds like this movie is a total clusterfu*k:facepalmHe's a huge Star Wars fan too, I legit feel bad for him watching one of his favorite franchises get flushed down the toilet.

Shogon
12-20-2019, 03:15 PM
He's a huge Star Wars fan too, I legit feel bad for him watching one of his favorite franchises get flushed down the toilet.

It was flushed down the toilet the moment that Lucas sold his company.

Lucas is dog shit at dialogue and picking good actors but he can tell a story.

SomeBlackDude
12-21-2019, 11:26 AM
straight trash.

you can clearly tell they went into the new trilogy with no plan. disney was just in the middle of colonizing the entire planet, fat george (who was already a billion-year and didn't need the $) put a for sale sign on his front lawn, and mickey mouse snatched it up quick and tried to immediately flip it for a profit. the result has been an incoherent mess.

say what you will about the prequels, and they were filled with legendary cringe... but they at least had a coherent, straightforward plot.

two thirds of the way through this new trilogy they just scrapped everything they built up and were like 'oh shit, palpatine's back somehow, that's what we need to focus on now'. made absolutely no sense and even destroyed the entire narrative of the first 6 episodes and side projects (clone wars, etc).

with all the garbage they packed into this one, they could easily had a trilogy from that alone.

completely pointless.

CelticBaller
12-21-2019, 11:58 AM
Lmao palpatine being back literally means the prequels and original trilogy were for nothing

Again the sequels showing they’re hot garbage. Prequels at least added to the lore and story instead of removing and honestly, Obi Wan and Anakins adventures>>> Mary Sue Rey and Useless Finn

SomeBlackDude
12-21-2019, 12:07 PM
Lmao palpatine being back literally means the prequels and original trilogy were for nothing


exactly. just nuked a good 40 years of star wars lore. with no real payoff in return. and what made it worse was the way it was handled. such clumsy execution. that one dude, think his name is poe, litrally said "somehow, emperor palpatine has returned" and they just never touched on how that happened.

hiphopanonymous
12-21-2019, 12:24 PM
After the credits roll for 9, Luke wakes up from his drug induced sleep following the crazy Ewok party after blowing up the 2nd death star.

7-9 never actually happened. That's official canon afaic

ROCSteady
12-21-2019, 02:16 PM
I liked the movie but the more you think about it, the more the warts come out. Palpatine comes out of nowhere with no explanation wtf? If they were gonna go back, they should have included something regarding him and Vader since they were always two in a pod.

There’s lots to dissect and criticize but it’s on par with the rest of these movies, from a movie standpoint, my personal preferences withstanding.

Force Awakens- underwhelming in almost all regards considering the hype and marketing

The Last Jedi- I actually think this is the best one of the news ones. There was some odd choices made for sure but some of the scenes are up there in the whole saga.

Rise of Skywalker- serviceable end to the story, again underwhelming for some of the explanations fans were waiting for.

Draz
12-21-2019, 02:19 PM
There's a conspiracy that Disney is paying the reviewing sites like rotten tomatoes to freeze their score

FultzNationRISE
12-21-2019, 04:54 PM
exactly. just nuked a good 40 years of star wars lore. with no real payoff in return. and what made it worse was the way it was handled. such clumsy execution. that one dude, think his name is poe, litrally said "somehow, emperor palpatine has returned" and they just never touched on how that happened.


This shit made me :roll: :roll: :roll: and I dont even know the Star Wars.

coin24
12-21-2019, 07:47 PM
There's a conspiracy that Disney is paying the reviewing sites like rotten tomatoes to freeze their score


I think Disney owns the site behind the scenes.. after the captain marvel fiasco

Stephonit
12-22-2019, 02:56 AM
What I dislike about the new trilogy is that it is so obviously a money grab. It's also made to kill off the original characters so that Disney has a blank slate to work with in the Star Wars universe. Instead of creating its own universe Disney just bought one and is clearing it of everything that made it special. Find it problematic to support that.

Derka
12-22-2019, 12:14 PM
I think everything ROC said is dead on.

I

Meticode
12-22-2019, 08:15 PM
Star Wars is in a wierd place right now. The Last Jedi sucked. The Rise of Skywalker sucks. The Mandalorian is great. Jedi: Fallen Order is great.

Meticode
12-22-2019, 08:31 PM
If Abrams would've stayed on to do all three films it would've turned out better. I'm not saying it would've been awesome, but the sheer fact that Rian Johnson totally f*cked up the the symbols and meanings from the original trilogy steered the franchise in the wrong direction. They made Rey way too overpowered with very few faults. If they made her character more vulnerable it would've been better. They never explored Finn because Rian Johnson ****ed his character up in The Last Jedi. In The Force Awakens he was actually interesting and he showed he could be force sensitive. Never explored. Then Abrams had to bring back Palpatine to fix what Johnson did, which didn't help at all either because then it invalidates Anakin's story arc. Disney gave way too much control to the directors in the end and they made the wrong choices.

Even the ending scene with Rey killing Palpaltine was stupid. It would've been better if both Rey and Ben did it together. Ben would've truly redeemed himself. Then after they kill him together she gets mortally wounded and he gives his life for hers. Just having her do it by herself shows how overpowered they made her without fault.

1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. Return of the Jedi
3. A New Hope
4. Revenge of the Sith
5. The Phantom Menace
6. The Force Awakens
7. The Rise of Skywalker
8. Attack of the Clones
9. The Last Jedi

ROCSteady
12-23-2019, 12:28 AM
Rey should have died by sacrificing herself to defeat the Emperor and have Kylo chug a long, a Skywalker rising from the darkness. It would have worked well with his literal rising at the end but Dark Knight Rises already did that lol.

I dunno the sacrifice trope is overdone but the whole ‘Force Healing’ thjng was a pretty lazy plot device to get them out of any potential fan freakouts.

The end would hace been more emotional if Rey had died and Ren took up the new mantle as Master Skywalker Jedi badass. That way, an actual Skywalker bloodline could live.

It was absurd to me that Rey could match the Emperor’s powers even after training. It only would have made a bit of sense if she was a female Palpatine clone and not just a regular family member.

Picture Rey making the ultimate sacrifice and Kylo being the one to return to Tatooine to bury his mom and uncle’s lightsaber. Especially since what Luke wanted to do with that lightsaber before Kylo flipped out

ROCSteady
12-23-2019, 12:42 AM
My ranking for the Skywalker series:

1. Empire Strikes Back
2. Star Wars (only this high because it’s feels and history)
3. The Last Jedi
4. Revenge of the Sith
5. Return of the Jedi
6. The Phantom Menace
7. Rise of Skywalker
8. Force Awakens
9. Attack of the Clones

Other than Attack of the Clones, which was just boring , all Star Wars movies are more of less similar quality to me. The discrepancy between the best and worst isn’t much diff considering how many diff directions and tones the movies have

Derka
12-23-2019, 11:02 AM
1. Empire Strikes Back
2. Return of the Jedi
3. The Last Jedi
4. Revenge of the Sith (on the strength of Obiwan v. Vader and Yoda v. Emperor. I badly wanted to see Grievous v. several Jedi and didn't get it)
5. The Force Awakens
6. Rise of Skywalker
7. Phantom Menace
8. A New Hope
9. Attack of the Clones

That's my order.

sammichoffate
12-23-2019, 12:23 PM
I'm surprised you guys have the prequels lower than the Disney trilogy. Even though they're cringe af sometimes at least they had a plot with a beginning, middle, and end.

bigkingsfan
12-23-2019, 12:23 PM
Star.Wars.Episode.IX.The.Rise.of.Skywalker.2019.10 80p.V3.CAM.KORSUB is very watchable, about the quality of a DVD screener.

CelticBaller
12-23-2019, 12:26 PM
I'm surprised you guys have the prequels lower than the Disney trilogy. Even though they're cringe af sometimes at least they had a plot with a beginning, middle, and end.
They also have the last Jedi high despite the plot being a ****ing mess :lol

Patrick Chewing
12-23-2019, 01:53 PM
No return of Darth Vader. No Mandalorian cameo. I am disappoint.

ROCSteady
12-23-2019, 02:18 PM
I'm surprised you guys have the prequels lower than the Disney trilogy. Even though they're cringe af sometimes at least they had a plot with a beginning, middle, and end.


Not me. Attack of The Clones is the only one Sucks. Revenge of the Sith used to be my second favorite but you gotta respect the original and I just really like Last Jedi. I

Derka
12-23-2019, 02:54 PM
I'm surprised you guys have the prequels lower than the Disney trilogy. Even though they're cringe af sometimes at least they had a plot with a beginning, middle, and end.
Aside from Revenge of the Sith, I put everything written and directed solely by Lucas at the bottom. Straight up, the man invented a brilliant story and was not even remotely competent enough as a writer or director to actually tell it. Revenge is saved entirely by the action on screen and the goddamn yeoman's work Ewan MacGregor did to drag some emotional weight into the picture.

When assessing A New Hope, I take emotion and nostalgia completely out of it. Lucas took a ten-year leap forward in special effects technology and some generational acting talent and wasted it on a barely watchable film.

hiphopanonymous
12-23-2019, 04:29 PM
1. ESB
2. ANH
3-4. ROTJ / AOTC
5. ROTS
6. TPM

That's my list.

None of the Disney stuff even makes sense let alone should be considered canon.

Shogon
12-23-2019, 04:35 PM
Anyone who has The Phantom Menace below Attack of the Clowns and Return of the Jedi... well... that person is literally brain dead.


Anyways, I saw this movie today... if you can completely shut your brain off, yeah, it's a bit of fun. If you give any of it an ounce of thought it's a ball of mess and there is no real level of coherence within the new trilogy itself, let alone the entire saga.

Disney is more interested in cashing in than they are delivering any semblance of a good product.

Whoever it was that decided to let multiple writers dictate where the trilogy would go with each film should be stuffed into a compactor of fire.

Meticode
12-23-2019, 07:00 PM
[QUOTE=ROCSteady]Rey should have died by sacrificing herself to defeat the Emperor and have Kylo chug a long, a Skywalker rising from the darkness. It would have worked well with his literal rising at the end but Dark Knight Rises already did that lol.

I dunno the sacrifice trope is overdone but the whole

FultzNationRISE
12-23-2019, 07:27 PM
Anyone who has The Phantom Menace below Attack of the Clowns and Return of the Jedi... well... that person is literally brain dead.


Anyways, I saw this movie today... if you can completely shut your brain off, yeah, it's a bit of fun. If you give any of it an ounce of thought it's a ball of mess and there is no real level of coherence within the new trilogy itself, let alone the entire saga.

Disney is more interested in cashing in than they are delivering any semblance of a good product.

Whoever it was that decided to let multiple writers dictate where the trilogy would go with each film should be stuffed into a compactor of fire.


Bolded is all that matters.

You keep paying them for something you dont even like :lol

Billionaire Disney investors laughin straight to the bank.

Bernie Bros (not you) cant figure out what theyre doing wrong. Why cant they just get ahead!? How come some people get so rich!!!???? :lol

World gon world.

Shogon
12-23-2019, 07:28 PM
Bolded is all that matters.

You keep paying them for something you dont even like :lol

Billionaire Disney investors laughin straight to the bank.

Bernie Bros (not you) cant figure out what theyre doing wrong. Why cant they just get ahead!? How come some people get so rich!!!???? :lol

I'm not stressing the $4

FultzNationRISE
12-23-2019, 07:34 PM
I'm not stressing the $4


No doubt. Altho you are complaining about the quality. Which theyre not gonna change if every phillistine American, some 350+ million strong, will gladly fork over 4 bucks for garbage without hesitation.


Why dont you buy some razors? Ill sell ya some for four bucks.

DCL
12-23-2019, 09:53 PM
I'm not stressing the $4

only 4 bucks??

Meticode
12-23-2019, 10:53 PM
Disney is more interested in cashing in than they are delivering any semblance of a good product.
I disagree. A good product would mean more money. I just think they're incompetent. Look at the earnings and openings. As the trilogy has progressed each money has made less and less money because they keep screwing up the story more and more.

Shogon
12-23-2019, 11:20 PM
only 4 bucks??

There is a theater here that offers very cheap showings.


I disagree. A good product would mean more money. I just think they're incompetent. Look at the earnings and openings. As the trilogy has progressed each money has made less and less money because they keep screwing up the story more and more.

Yeah but you're talking about paying people to thoroughly take their time and ensure they're putting out a good product as opposed to putting out a new movie or two on an annual basis in order to keep the cash flowing.


If you want to look at it this way... the MCU was purchased by Disney also... but the people in charge of making the MCU successful stayed on board. With the Star Wars universe, George Lucas said lol **** it gimme the billions, cya suckers later... and as a result you have people in charge that are a combination of not as good at storytelling as Lucas and or aren't truly interested in the success of the franchise long term... they just want to crank it out. They've already recouped their entire investment in buying Lucas' company and IP, now it's all cheddar from here.

If Disney was interested in making it good they would take their time. There is no need to churn them out so fast. You're not wrong that they're incompetent, but my point is that the main consideration is immediate cash flow and thus the incompetence is essentially irrelevant.

FultzNationRISE
12-23-2019, 11:42 PM
There is a theater here that offers very cheap showings.



Yeah but you're talking about paying people to thoroughly take their time and ensure they're putting out a good product as opposed to putting out a new movie or two on an annual basis in order to keep the cash flowing.


If you want to look at it this way... the MCU was purchased by Disney also... but the people in charge of making the MCU successful stayed on board. With the Star Wars universe, George Lucas said lol **** it gimme the billions, cya suckers later... and as a result you have people in charge that are a combination of not as good at storytelling as Lucas and or aren't truly interested in the success of the franchise long term... they just want to crank it out. They've already recouped their entire investment in buying Lucas' company and IP, now it's all cheddar from here.

If Disney was interested in making it good they would take their time. There is no need to churn them out so fast. You're not wrong that they're incompetent, but my point is that the main consideration is immediate cash flow and thus the incompetence is essentially irrelevant.


Why ju duckin these razors homeboy?

CelticBaller
12-24-2019, 12:15 AM
I don't like Kylo living personally. The aspect of him living after he's killed countless people. Probably thousands of people by his orders doesn't sit well with me and there has to be some consequence to his actions. That's why I always loved the Anakin arc. Part of redeeming himself is paying the ultimate price for what he did. I like him dying and sacrificing himself, but I wish they would've ended it differently with the fight. Something like both of them fight Palpatine with the Force in some way, then the climax be exactly what you see with the lightning and the lightsabers, but not just Rey holding it, but both Rey and Ben struggling to hold it back, then somehow the force ghosts of Jedi like Mace, Anakin, Yoda, Luke, Obiwan appear behind them helping them push forward to help kill Palpatine...only for Rey to die and Kylo is mortally wounded, only to crawl to her and give his life force for her...minus the kiss.

The kiss felt too much, maybe foreheads touching showing the bond, then Ben goes limp.

The whole Rey taking on Palpatine herself and her killing him int literally seconds made me laugh my ass off. :oldlol: It felt so corny and Kennedy approved.
Eh, Kylo redeeming himself and living will differentiate himself from his grandfather. Instead he ends up being a cheap copy of Anakin.

I think a better ending would’ve been both surviving, and Kylo is spared thanks to bringing down the dark side but is forced to live in exile. Then if you want to you can show him in the epilogue teaching kids about the force while in exile

And if you want to keep him and Rey together they can just easily both live in exile as teachers of the Jedi order or something

Anyways that wouldn’t have saved that shit

hiphopanonymous
12-24-2019, 09:09 AM
There is a theater here that offers very cheap showings.



Yeah but you're talking about paying people to thoroughly take their time and ensure they're putting out a good product as opposed to putting out a new movie or two on an annual basis in order to keep the cash flowing.


If you want to look at it this way... the MCU was purchased by Disney also... but the people in charge of making the MCU successful stayed on board. With the Star Wars universe, George Lucas said lol **** it gimme the billions, cya suckers later... and as a result you have people in charge that are a combination of not as good at storytelling as Lucas and or aren't truly interested in the success of the franchise long term... they just want to crank it out. They've already recouped their entire investment in buying Lucas' company and IP, now it's all cheddar from here.

If Disney was interested in making it good they would take their time. There is no need to churn them out so fast. You're not wrong that they're incompetent, but my point is that the main consideration is immediate cash flow and thus the incompetence is essentially irrelevant.
George didn't say that, he actually wrote outlines for episodes 7-9 and Disney threw them in the trash.

Disney and Kathleen Kennedy said cya to Lucas, not the other way around. They stabbed him in the back, he wanted to guide their hand and take on an important, but less stressful role with his lifetime project but they treated him like rich kids dealing with an unwanted elderly parent and sent him against his will to the retirement home.

A combo of his visions but written with more polish and dialogue would have been epic. But Disney, in their arrogance and greed, completely blew it.

See for yourselves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5TGJquhP1s

Mr Exlax
12-24-2019, 09:59 AM
This movie sucked!

lilteapot
12-25-2019, 07:26 AM
yo i loved this movie man. it is stupid at times and doesnt make sense but i guess im either a sucker for blatant fan fare but i thought it was really well done. kylo ren kills it

highwhey
12-25-2019, 11:09 PM
terrible ending. who the hell gave the green light to this?

:roll:

Skywalker
12-26-2019, 12:15 AM
This was a good movie

TheMan
12-26-2019, 01:00 PM
This was a good movie
Lol, who's alt is this?

Watched it last night with the kids...didn't know what the hell was going on since I haven't followed Star Wars since I was a kid with the first trilogy. Movie was a mess but my kids enjoyed it so whatever...

LMAO at the posters here raging. Its a stupid movie franchise made for kids, who gives a fukk. Tried watching late 90s/2000s SW movies but they were terrible and I moved on. Y'all should do the same. :lol

DoctorP
12-27-2019, 09:27 AM
Yeah, I dug it. It's fun. JJ gets the essence of the Star War much more than Johnson.

Yeah, it has a ton of crap in it but I could overlook it for the funsies.

Star Wars has always been like this. Fun n dumb.

sammichoffate
12-27-2019, 09:57 AM
Yeah, I dug it. It's fun. JJ gets the essence of the Star War much more than Johnson.

Yeah, it has a ton of crap in it but I could overlook it for the funsies.

Star Wars has always been like this. Fun n dumb.The comics and tv shows are way better written.

DoctorP
12-27-2019, 10:02 AM
The comics and tv shows are way better written.

not by much. its still silly 7th grade level shit.

Derka
12-27-2019, 10:12 AM
Yeah, I dug it. It's fun. JJ gets the essence of the Star War much more than Johnson.

Yeah, it has a ton of crap in it but I could overlook it for the funsies.

Star Wars has always been like this. Fun n dumb.
It really is amazing how overrated the entire series is. I'm convinced that the dorks who treat the original trilogy as high cinema are doing so because they're still glowing from the first time they jerked one out to Princess Leia.

sammichoffate
12-27-2019, 10:15 AM
not by much. its still silly 7th grade level shit.I can stomach Dark Empire compared to the Disney trilogy, it's silly fanfiction-level writing. Darth Vader and Aphra are also great reads.

DoctorP
12-27-2019, 10:33 AM
It really is amazing how overrated the entire series is. I'm convinced that the dorks who treat the original trilogy as high cinema are doing so because they're still glowing from the first time they jerked one out to Princess Leia.

i totally agree. theres a huge world of sci-fi out there written so much better. and yea, and how about this ridiculous toxic star war fan culture? they made it cool to hate on it. star wars haters just like to troll star wars and nitpick dumb shit like their shit dont stink

star wars is what we thought it was. deal with it.

you wanna clown them? clown them.

but it is what we thought it was.

Lakers Legend#32
12-27-2019, 05:47 PM
No imagination. No creativity. Nothing original.
Yeah it sucked.

JEFFERSON MONEY
12-27-2019, 07:53 PM
who gets depressed becauz of a movie lol?

excludin' requiem for a dream

sammichoffate
12-27-2019, 08:37 PM
who gets depressed becauz of a movie lol?

excludin' requiem for a dreamPeople who appreciate art. Younger people are more impressionable, so grown up fans watching one of their favorite works from their childhood getting whored out for money makes them sad. It would be like re-writing the ending to Lord of the Rings so that all the main cast die off while some random Mary Sue kills Sauron who comes back with no explanation after like 40 years.

Meticode
12-27-2019, 09:36 PM
You know what's sad? I have all the Star Wars films on my 8TB hard drive connected to my TV...minus Episode 9 obviously...and whenever I go into that folder to watch a Star Wars film I have NO interest at all in watching The Force Awakens or The Last Jedi. I often wonder why I even have them in there. THey kind of remind me of the Terminator films. I have Terminator and Terminator 2. But I never downloaded or wanted Terminator 3, Terminator Salvation, Terminator: Genysis and soon to be Terminator: Dark Fate. It's like my heart doesn't consider them part of the story and doesn't want to acknowledge them. Which is how I feel about the new Star Wars films.

It's sad that I like a lower budget TV show (The Mandalorian) more than anything the new trilogy showed.

DoctorP
12-27-2019, 11:01 PM
People who appreciate art. Younger people are more impressionable, so grown up fans watching one of their favorite works from their childhood getting whored out for money makes them sad. It would be like re-writing the ending to Lord of the Rings so that all the main cast die off while some random Mary Sue kills Sauron who comes back with no explanation after like 40 years.

if you want art watch david lynch, not star wars. if you saw star wars when you were a kid and get sad that the new ones dont hold up to your nostalgia, the problem is youre not a kid anymore. grow the **** up

HeatFanSince88
12-28-2019, 08:30 PM
a surefire easy way to spot a complete retard is have them make a star wars film list and see if they have ANY of the disney movies over ANY of #1-6.

HeatFanSince88
12-28-2019, 08:36 PM
The people who are making these films arn't retards.

its just that they give zero ****s about actually making good films. Star Wars sells no matter what, its a guaranteed cashcow.

so the franchise who has been bought out by the mainstream is just about having another avenue to push SJW/liberal/communist propaganda. because no matter what the $ comes in.

if they actually cared about making good movies there are literally thousands of star wars nerds who would write it for free and make something 100x better than this shit.

DoctorP
12-28-2019, 08:58 PM
Rise of Skywalker rocked and was a fun time.

**** the haters.

it aint high art but it aint trash.


it will be appreciated in time

CelticBaller
12-28-2019, 09:02 PM
Rise of Skywalker rocked and was a fun time.

**** the haters.

it aint high art but it aint trash.


it will be appreciated in time
Almost everybody agrees it sucks but no we have to believe you :oldlol:

DoctorP
12-28-2019, 09:29 PM
Almost everybody agrees it sucks but no we have to believe you :oldlol:

saw it in imax 70mm and dolby.

mucho fun

i have spoken.

sammichoffate
12-30-2019, 02:45 AM
https://youtu.be/dNyTF_iiAR8

:roll:

DoctorP
12-30-2019, 03:48 AM
December 29, 2019 9:07 PST - By Brad Brevet - Box Office News
Disney's Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker topped the weekend box office for a second weekend in a row, while the weekend's newcomers -- Sony's Little Women and Fox's animated feature Spies in Disguise -- both topped studio expectations as did this weekend's expansion of Uncut Gems, which has now topped $20 million domestically.

With an estimated $72 million, Disney's Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker dipped -59% in its second weekend, pushing the film's domestic gross over $361 million after ten days in release. The drop is much larger than we expected given the past performances of films over the same time frame. It is, however, better than the -67.5% second weekend plunge for The Last Jedi a couple of years ago as it has managed to close the gap between the two films after ten days in theaters.

Internationally, Rise of Skywalker added $94.3 million this weekend for a $363 million overseas cume and a global tally that is now just shy of $725 million. This weekend didn't see any new markets released as the UK still leads all international markets with $51.4 million. Next weekend will see the film open in Vietnam.

rufuspaul
12-30-2019, 01:06 PM
Holy shit was that awful. The dialogue has always been a bit cheesy in these films but this one feels like it was written by a middle schooler. The special effects were okay. That's about it.