View Full Version : How many stars had a 50/40/90 on 19 ppg as #2 option?
Rico2016
12-16-2019, 06:34 PM
Khris Middleton for the Bucks is doing it on 27 mpg (sitting due to blow out wins).
For reference, Middleton in 2020
ORtg: 118
DRtg: 103
Net +15
Those numbers are incredible...What a great player and on 50/40/90 splits. Thanks for informing be how good Giannis' teammates are.
For reference, Wade in 2011
ORtg: 114
DRtg: 102
Net +12
For reference, Irving in 2017
ORtg: 116
DRtg: 112
Net +4
So Middleton has better overall impact than LeBron's BEST #2 options during their best years: meaning better overall impact than 2011 Wade and 2017 Irving. This isn't even including Middleton's ridiculous 50/40/90 season averages. Stay woke out there.
FKAri
12-16-2019, 06:37 PM
Kobe had a 50/40/90 on 13 ppg 11apg as a THIRD option. He still missed the playoffs tho :(
Doranku
12-16-2019, 06:41 PM
For reference, AD in 2020
ORtg: 120
DRtg: 98
For reference, AD in 2020
ORtg: 120
DRtg: 98
AD isn’t a true second option. He and LeBron are co-first options.
Rico2016
12-16-2019, 09:57 PM
Kobe had a 50/40/90 on 13 ppg 11apg as a THIRD option. He still missed the playoffs tho :(
What a choker
ball247
12-17-2019, 03:12 AM
Mediocre stats
Rico2016
12-17-2019, 11:30 AM
Mediocre stats
Middleton? So are you concluding that LeBron's best help was even less than mediocre?
ImKobe
12-17-2019, 11:33 AM
Kobe had a 50/40/90 on 13 ppg 11apg as a THIRD option. He still missed the playoffs tho :(
False.
Nash shot 49.7%FG, averaged 6.7 assists and missed almost half the season and the Lakers made the Playoffs.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2013.html
Not only that, but Khris Middleton is not a 50/40/90 player either.
warriorfan
12-17-2019, 11:59 AM
Lebron ball managed to make Dwyane Wade shittier than Kris Middleton
Let that sink in for a moment
PP34Deuce
12-17-2019, 12:03 PM
Khris is as elite as a 3 and D player you can get.
In today's NBA, an ELITE 3 and D guy is going to be valued even more.
kentatm
12-17-2019, 12:05 PM
Middleton was invisible last night vs the Mavs.
Pointguard
12-17-2019, 01:52 PM
Middleton was invisible last night vs the Mavs.
But he didn
PP34Deuce
12-17-2019, 01:56 PM
Middleton is good and the bucks have a great team. sometimes you need to look at totality. their starters can switch defensively and they have 2-3 ball handlers that can go to the paint.
FKAri
12-17-2019, 01:58 PM
False.
Nash shot 49.7%FG, averaged 6.7 assists and missed almost half the season and the Lakers made the Playoffs.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2013.html
Not only that, but Khris Middleton is not a 50/40/90 player either.
I may have some of the numbers wrong but the point still stands. :cheers:
warriorfan
12-17-2019, 02:20 PM
LeBron had players of that caliber as a third option...
Love stats Pre-LeBron - 26/13/2/59% TS
Bosh stats Pre-LeBron - 24/11/2/59% TS
Pau stats Pre-Kobe - 19/8/3/59% TS
It's safe to say that Kevin Love and Chris Bosh were better than Pau Gasol before they joined with their new teams
LeBron needed Bosh and Love as third options when he won
Kobe had Paul Gasol as a second option when he won
Rico2016
12-17-2019, 05:41 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/zGLKr1f4/2nd-options.png
Rico2016
12-18-2019, 11:36 AM
Anyone?
ImKobe
12-18-2019, 12:06 PM
Davis 2019-20: 120 ORTG, 98 DRTG - Net: 22
Lebron 2019-20: 115 ORTG, 103 DRTG - Net: 12
superduper
12-18-2019, 12:09 PM
Davis 2019-20: 120 ORTG, 98 DRTG - Net: 21
Lebron 2019-20: 115 ORTG, 103 DRTG - Net: 12
No AD no W :applause:
ImKobe
12-18-2019, 12:10 PM
No AD no W :applause:
https://media1.tenor.com/images/48ce8f47620e99d18adee6e66296848c/tenor.gif
ball247
12-18-2019, 06:31 PM
Middleton? So are you concluding that LeBron's best help was even less than mediocre?
Plz don
ball247
12-18-2019, 06:34 PM
If Middleton was so good y he playing only 27 min a game. He trash coach don
stalkerforlife
12-18-2019, 06:36 PM
Davis 2019-20: 120 ORTG, 98 DRTG - Net: 22
Lebron 2019-20: 115 ORTG, 103 DRTG - Net: 12
Anyone?
Rudeboy3
12-18-2019, 07:00 PM
You
stalkerforlife
12-18-2019, 07:03 PM
[QUOTE=Rudeboy3]You
stalkerforlife
12-18-2019, 07:04 PM
How many games has he missed so far?
Anyone?
Rudeboy3
12-18-2019, 07:07 PM
How many games has he missed so far?
Anyone?
Like 7 games bucks won all 7 games. Bledose misses one game, they lose the game. Really let’s you know who’s more valuable
tpols
12-18-2019, 07:11 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/zGLKr1f4/2nd-options.png
The fact that bran made wade worse than kris ****ing middleton is an indictment in and of itself.
Rico2016
12-18-2019, 07:12 PM
[QUOTE=Rudeboy3]You
ball247
12-18-2019, 07:12 PM
The fact that bran made wade worse than kris ****ing middleton is an indictment in and of itself.
:facepalm
Rico2016
12-18-2019, 07:13 PM
The fact that bran made wade worse than kris ****ing middleton is an indictment in and of itself.
Be careful with this, as nearly every single star he ever played with has had their best defensive years playing with Lebron. LeGOAT DPOY is a real thing.
stalkerforlife
12-18-2019, 07:15 PM
OP eviscerated.
warriorfan
12-18-2019, 10:45 PM
OP eviscerated.
He has the lowest iq on the site, not even exaggerating.
Rico2016
12-18-2019, 10:57 PM
He has the lowest iq on the site, not even exaggerating.
How so? Even lower than yours? For posting facts. Hmm, I guess you like half truths and manipulated data then.
warriorfan
12-18-2019, 11:42 PM
How so? Even lower than yours? For posting facts. Hmm, I guess you like half truths and manipulated data then.
You have little to no understanding to anything you post besides greater number > lesser number. You have no concept on how certain stats are calculated, their accuracies and inconsistencies, the context behind it. Fundamental concepts of the game are alien to you. You are a blind man telling everyone how the view is. It
SpaceJam2
12-18-2019, 11:46 PM
[QUOTE=warriorfan]You have little to no understanding to anything you post besides greater number > lesser number. You have no concept on how certain stats are calculated, their accuracies and inconsistencies, the context behind it. Fundamental concepts of the game are alien to you. You are a blind man telling everyone how the view is. It
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
12-18-2019, 11:50 PM
You have little to no understanding to anything you post besides greater number > lesser number. You have no concept on how certain stats are calculated, their accuracies and inconsistencies, the context behind it. Fundamental concepts of the game are alien to you. You are a blind man telling everyone how the view is. It’s embarrassing, it’s cringeworthy, it’s pathetic.
OP reminds me of that demented poster who was STAT crazed.
Same "2>1" stuff but creepy and obsessive AF.
I think it was "Ginobli". He spelled Ginobili's name wrong lol. This was back when Kobe fans were around, and he would spam the fukk out of the forum. Like this guy and SpaceJam2. He also went by "NBASTATMAN" who I think still posts here.
A complete nutjob though. Dude who probably stalks Lebron IRL.
warriorfan
12-18-2019, 11:58 PM
Hey ashyboi, its advanced stats, so per 100. They are very pure stats. Sorry your lame hero is 0 for 5 in FMVPs
For one thing you cannot blanket everything non box as “advanced stats”, there are many different categories. The stats you posted just mean how many points does the player score, or allow, with his team over 100 possessions. Which means it’s a team based stat. You should have been posting individual stats and how they changed when joining a certain players team. Showing that Pau Gasol and Scottie Pippen have exceptional Ortgs and Drtgs only reinforce how their superstar teammates were able to integrate seamlessly and advance their play. The fact you prove that Giannis has elevated Khris Middleton past levels of Dwyane Wade is as self ethering as they come. Tbh I’m a little disappointed you were able to unintentionally point this out before me or 3ball were able too. Definition of dumb luck I guess.
Btw speaking of cringeworthy...
https://i.postimg.cc/JhVBJdHk/280-F87-C4-99-C8-45-C8-AE9-F-A5-C1-F419-BB78.jpg
Rico2016
03-05-2020, 12:09 AM
Still going. Khris Middleton as #2 option: 20 ppg on 50/43/91
20 on 50/40/90
Jesus
.227 WS/48 too
120 ORtg
103 DRtg
+17 sheesh
What a stud
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