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Rico2016
12-17-2019, 05:42 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/zGLKr1f4/2nd-options.png

Looks to be incomplete, just off the top I'm thinking of McHale to Bird, and Parker to Duncan, etc. Let's add to it who else is this missing?

Takeaways: LeBron never had help as good as many others, including Pip to MJ and even Middleton to Yanny.
'Toine=MVP
12-17-2019, 05:49 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/zGLKr1f4/2nd-options.png

Looks to be incomplete, just off the top I'm thinking of McHale to Bird, and Parker to Duncan, etc. Let's add to it who else is this missing?

Takeaways: LeBron never had help as good as many others, including Pip to MJ and even Middleton to Yanny.

LOL just stop. This is a dumb way to evaluate the quality of the "help".
Rico2016
12-17-2019, 05:51 PM
LOL just stop. This is a dumb way to evaluate the quality of the "help".

I dont see how? It's pretty fair across the board if you only use #2 options. ORtg and DRtg is per 100 which accounts for pace and any deficiencies.
coin24
12-17-2019, 05:58 PM
Bran is the #2 option to AD, unless you can show us Lebrons 2018-19 playoff stats?

Big Di.ck Davis, LA MVP:cheers:
warriorfan
12-17-2019, 05:59 PM
This dude is out here ethering himself and doesn
Rico2016
12-17-2019, 06:02 PM
[QUOTE=warriorfan]This dude is out here ethering himself and doesn
SpaceJam
12-17-2019, 06:13 PM
Damn back2back Pau was a force
Rico2016
12-17-2019, 06:17 PM
Damn back2back Pau was a force

This is was stuck out to me the most. Kobe had little impact for most years and Pau has incredible impact. I also figured Kyrie would have a better string of impact but his defensive liabilities always got in the way.
Doranku
12-17-2019, 06:19 PM
'08 Memphis Gasol:

ORtg - 114
DRtg - 111

'08 Lakers Gasol:

ORtg - 128
DRtg - 105


The Kobe effect. :eek:
FKAri
12-17-2019, 06:31 PM
'08 Memphis Gasol:

ORtg - 114
DRtg - 111

'08 Lakers Gasol:

ORtg - 128
DRtg - 105


The Kobe effect. :eek:
Pau's a sensitive guy who was filled with self-doubt in Memphis. In LA, he would constantly get the ball and it made him feel needed and gave him confidence. It was the genius of Phil Jackson to convince Pau that Kobe's bricks were actually just passes off the rim meant for him. This way Kobe got to do his chucking and live in his own fantasy world where he was the hero and Pau could not only clean up the mess but gain the confidence he needed to be the star we always knew he could be.
Rico2016
12-17-2019, 08:49 PM
'08 Memphis Gasol:

ORtg - 114
DRtg - 111

'08 Lakers Gasol:

ORtg - 128
DRtg - 105


The Kobe effect. :eek:

He wasn't #2 option in Memphis. Also, Kobe had a lot of help!
'Toine=MVP
12-17-2019, 09:15 PM
Magic was a #2 to Kareem for almost his entire career.

You are a fool.
Rico2016
12-18-2019, 05:23 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/rFGCFBWs/Most-Help-Second.png

What are the other #2 options I am forgetting to add?
DMAVS41
12-18-2019, 05:27 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/rFGCFBWs/Most-Help-Second.png

What are the other #2 options I am forgetting to add?

Do Jason Terry in 2011 for laughs.

Gonna need to create a new tier though unless it is only playoffs.
Rico2016
12-18-2019, 05:27 PM
You are a fool.

So Magic was the 1st scoring option during Kareem's PRIME even though Magic never averaged over 25 ppg for a season? He never averaged over 24 ppg for a season either. Magic played 13 years which gave him 13 chances in the regular season and 13 chances if he made the playoffs

Years/seasons where Magic averaged over 25 ppg

Regular season = 0
Playoffs = 1

1 for 26
Rico2016
12-18-2019, 05:28 PM
Do Jason Terry in 2011 for laughs.

Gonna need to create a new tier though unless it is only playoffs.

I looked him up already :lol In 2011 he was a -2 for the regular season but a +10 in the playoffs.
DMAVS41
12-18-2019, 05:32 PM
I looked him up already :lol In 2011 he was a -2 for the regular season but a +10 in the playoffs.

Seems like you need a new tier to include negatives.
ImKobe
12-18-2019, 05:34 PM
2019-20 AD: 120 ORTG 98 DRTG - NetRtg: 22
2019-20 LBJ: 115 ORTG 103 DRTG - NetRtg: 12
Rico2016
12-18-2019, 05:36 PM
2019-20 AD: 120 ORTG 98 DRTG - NetRtg: 22
2019-20 LBJ: 115 ORTG 103 DRTG - NetRtg: 12

LeBron is a #2 option this year and has been added to the list. Thank you for your post.
Rico2016
12-18-2019, 05:38 PM
Wade fell of a cliff after 2011. His age really got to him because his numbers took a huge dive once his knees starting acting up.
ImKobe
12-18-2019, 05:38 PM
LeBron is a #2 option this year and has been added to the list. Thank you for your post.

Oh, so now you accept that Lebron is a #2? I thought he was leading the Lakers? If so, AD is a better 2nd option than anyone on the list.
Rico2016
12-18-2019, 05:40 PM
Oh, so now you accept that Lebron is a #2? I thought he was leading the Lakers? If so, AD is a better 2nd option than anyone on the list.

It's like a Magic and Kareem relationship. Pick your poison, if you will. Magic was more valuable, as is LeBron, but they are clearly the #2 options. AD is averaging 27.4 and LeBron is averaging only 25.9.
tpols
12-18-2019, 05:42 PM
'08 Memphis Gasol:

ORtg - 114
DRtg - 111

'08 Lakers Gasol:

ORtg - 128
DRtg - 105


The Kobe effect. :eek:

Jesus H...

now show what bran did to wade n bosh.

:oldlol: