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Marchesk
12-17-2019, 11:28 PM
Tie game, Nets can hold for last shot, with a couple extra seconds. What do they do? Dribble down the clock and then shoot a long contested three that doesn't hit the rim. Should have been a shot clock violation, with Pelicans ball and a couple seconds left.

Terrible reffing and terrible shot selection with plenty of time to run a play for a better shot.

DoctorP
12-17-2019, 11:30 PM
Nets are garbage

wait until Durant or Kyrie are there to make this thread

ImKobe
12-17-2019, 11:32 PM
Yup, this happens way too often in today's NBA.


The worst shot was that Dame 32-footer with PG in his face with the game tied against OKC in the Playoffs. We loved the shot because it went in but it was absolutely the worst shot to take in that situation. It's also how the Rockets play in close Playoff games and it just pisses me off how teams chuck 3s 5 seconds into the shot-clock instead of attacking the paint in crunch time.

Marchesk
12-18-2019, 01:24 PM
Here it is. I'd like to see someone defend this:

https://streamable.com/qpjae

superduper
12-18-2019, 01:25 PM
Marchesk haven't you been paying attention? Only the superathlete superalien players of today's complex modern era are capable of pulling off such a play.

The complex 3pt chuck

FKAri
12-18-2019, 01:32 PM
There is no play going on or maybe a play was blown up immediately prior to this. This is basically a player taking things into his own hands. The player feels a rhythm step back long ass 3 is better than going into 2 defenders and possibly getting bottled up. It's his call to make and it was probably a poor one.

This is a tale as old as the league so what does it have to do with the era aside from the fact that his (probably) poor decision involved a long shot? Also, the blown shot clock violation was worse than the shot itself.

Marchesk
12-18-2019, 01:40 PM
There is no play going on or maybe a play was blown up immediately prior to this. This is basically a player taking things into his own hands. The player feels a rhythm step back long ass 3 is better than going into 2 defenders and possibly getting bottled up. It's his call to make and it was probably a poor one.

This is a tale as old as the league so what does it have to do with the era aside from the fact that his (probably) poor decision involved a long shot? Also, the blown shot clock violation was worse than the shot itself.

Of course there have always been bad shots and poor plays. What's new is the amount of low percentage, difficult threes players are taking in these situations, when they could be looking for a better shot inside the three.

If you watched the entire play, it's two guys dribbling out the clock waiting for a last shot, but they never even go inside the 3pt line or look for someone there.

It's Harden-ball at it's worst.

Marchesk
12-18-2019, 01:45 PM
Jordan would have gotten a mid-range jumper in this scenario. So would Kawhi and Durant, but they're the exception these days.

FKAri
12-18-2019, 01:53 PM
Jordan would have gotten a mid-range jumper in this scenario. So would Kawhi and Durant, but they're the exception these days.
They were always the exception. Driving past your man and then elevating from midrange isn't a common skill. You need a rare combination of first step + length + strength + shooting skill to pull it off in isolation vs a set defense.

If this was 1985, the ball would never have been in the hands of a PG for something like this. It would either be dumped down low for a quick post play or on the elbow to an SF with the size and length to get a shot off. The only thing era specific about this play is the type of player called upon to make the shot and the type of player who is a go-to scorer for teams today: the little guy.

elementally morale
12-18-2019, 02:28 PM
Tie game, Nets can hold for last shot, with a couple extra seconds. What do they do? Dribble down the clock and then shoot a long contested three that doesn't hit the rim. Should have been a shot clock violation, with Pelicans ball and a couple seconds left.

Terrible reffing and terrible shot selection with plenty of time to run a play for a better shot.


Yet you like James Harden and often post about his allegedly great numbers, etc. How come?

Wally450
12-18-2019, 03:18 PM
Kawhi did this against the Celtics a couple weeks back. Tie game at the end of regulation and Kawhi settles for a step back 3. Marcus Smart had him shook out of shoes though.