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3ball
12-19-2019, 09:10 PM
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From SB Nation (https://www.sbnation.com/2013/6/19/4444164/lebron-james-dwyane-wade-heat-spurs-nba-finals-game-6) in 2013 Finals (after game 6):

O-Rtg/D-Rtg with LBJ/Wade: 100.8/112.7 ... O-Rtg/D-Rtg with LBJ/NO Wade: 131.7/89.5

"the Spurs were using each Wade and Lebron's so-so perimeter shooting against them, cheating off of one to prevent the other from doing what he wants to do"

https://www.sbnation.com/2013/6/19/4444164/lebron-james-dwyane-wade-heat-spurs-nba-finals-game-6



The Spurs were cheating off Lebron to help on Wade and vice-versa, thus encouraging them to pass to each other for spot-ups, which the Spurs perceived both to be weak at.. the article shows video after video of the Spurs exploiting the lack of fit/limited skillsets/weak shooting of Lebron and Wade.. :eek:

So the lack of optimal fit between Lebron and Wade was a real thing, proven by the eye test and many stats.. Wade's assists also cratered alongside Lebron.

the limited skillset of Lebron and Wade (dribble-intensive weak shooters) ultimately made the Heat a worse team than many other guys in their place, so that DOES knock them down compared to other guys - not everyone passes them, but some do.

Keep in mind that Lebron's teammates avoided an 0-3 deficit in the 2013 Finals while he averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games, and 23 on 43% thru 6 - it was 2011 all over again, but Ray Allen saved him this time.. Lebron was a net negative for the series (heat lost with him on the floor)..
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Smoke117
12-19-2019, 09:14 PM
1-9

Kblaze8855
12-19-2019, 09:17 PM
Aside from 2 games vs the Bulls that combo won every game they played that year from February 2nd until May 24th.

3ball
12-19-2019, 09:18 PM
Aside from 2 games vs the Bulls that combo won every game they played that year from February 2nd until May 24th.
regular season or playoffs?

the article shows video after video of the Finals, where the Spurs exploited the lack of fit/limited skillsets/weak shooting of Lebron and Wade (cheating off Lebron to help on Wade and vice-versa, thus encouraging them to pass to each other for spot-ups, which the Spurs perceived both to be weak at)

So the lack of optimal fit between Lebron and Wade was a real thing, proven by the eye test and many stats.. Wade's assists also cratered alongside Lebron.

the limited skillset of Lebron and Wade (dribble-intensive weak shooters) made them exploitable by the Spurs and a worse team than many other guys in their place - this exploitability DOES knock them down compared to other guys - not everyone passes them, but some do.

Keep in mind that Lebron's teammates avoided an 0-3 deficit in the 13' Finals while he averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games, and 23 on 43% thru 6 - it was 2011 all over again (with Lebron/Wade's lack of fit), but Ray Allen saved him this time.. Lebron was a net negative for the series (heat lost with him on the floor)..
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Smoke117
12-19-2019, 09:18 PM
Aside from 2 games vs the Bulls that combo won every game they played that year from February 2nd until May 24th.

Then Wade got injured. He wasn't healthy in the playoffs.

3ball
12-19-2019, 09:21 PM
Then Wade got injured. He wasn't healthy in the playoffs.
Except Wade was infact coasting through the weak East and averaged 20/5/5 on 48% in the Finals - Wade and the other cast members played well to avoid an 0-3 deficit while Lebron averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games, and 23 on 43% thru 6 - it was 2011 all over again, but Ray Allen saved him this time.. Lebron was a net negative for the series (heat lost with him on the floor)..

Kblaze8855
12-19-2019, 09:23 PM
The second loss was in the playoffs vs the bulls. I believe that was the series a few heat fans lost their minds over the bulls physical play. It may have been the Lebron flop when Nazr pushed him. Heat fans was claiming Hinrich tackled him too.

Real weak shit in general. I distinctly remember arguing with a heat fan who claimed to be a long time supporter who was arguing the Bulls played thug ball but clearly didn

Kblaze8855
12-19-2019, 09:30 PM
Found it.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=299286


^Heat fans in 2013 upset the Bulls were the only team the Heat had trouble with for like 4 months. Thug ball....

PickernRoller
12-19-2019, 09:53 PM
These clowns try to rewrite history by mentioning game 7 when somehow Bran realized he had a meter length of space to shoot the damn ball all series long. Young Kawhi literally begging him to shoot.

The man choked that series for 6 games, was bailed by Ray, and had a decent game 7, the type of game he should of had in the previous 6. The series should have been over in 5 for the Heat if Bran wasn't such an overrated piece of garbage, and choker. But he was already on the terminal end - 2014 proved it.

The biggest rig job in all of basketball's history, to date, is still 2016, when the league, with a Jew at the helm, put the fix in.

3ball
12-21-2019, 06:58 PM
Bosh was 29 years old in 2014, so there's no reason he wasn't the same player as previous years - his defensive (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13906736&postcount=137) performance proves he was infact the same player, while his multi-dimensional offensive reduction under lebron-ball was a primary reason the Heat didn't live up to their original expectations.

In 2013 and 2014, Wade was only reduced to prime Pippen numbers (aka 20/5/5 on 53% in 13/14 regular seasons and 13' Finals... and he played well with the remaining cast to avoid an 0-3 deficit while Lebron averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games, and 23 on 43% thru 6 - it was 2011 all over again, but Ray Allen saved him this time.. Lebron was a net negative for the series (heat lost with him on the floor)

ultimately, people can point to the stats in the OP to show that the limited skillset of Lebron and Wade (dribble-intensive weak shooters) made the Heat a worse team than many other guys would've done in their place.. so that DOES knock them down compared to other guys - not everyone passes them, but some do.

RRR3
12-21-2019, 07:06 PM
hyuk gyuk yuk
lol

BasedTom
12-21-2019, 07:12 PM
The second loss was in the playoffs vs the bulls. I believe that was the series a few heat fans lost their minds over the bulls physical play. It may have been the Lebron flop when Nazr pushed him. Heat fans was claiming Hinrich tackled him too.

Real weak shit in general. I distinctly remember arguing with a heat fan who claimed to be a long time supporter who was arguing the Bulls played thug ball but clearly didn’t mind when the heat had Zo, PJ, and Bowen and all those scumbags with Riley.
nazr pushed lebron. selling contact because the refs are sucking shitcongolese dick =/ = flopping

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KoRCSwaRHkg/maxresdefault.jpg

hinrich didn't tackle lebron, that's bullshit. but he clearly wrapped his arms around him because he knew he was ****ed at that moment.

Those bulls teams were overrated shit and league darlings while the heat were considered villains. 2011 Dairy Crows = fraud mvp. the game where they snapped the 27 win streak was decided by refs

LAmbruh
12-21-2019, 07:15 PM
Juicy delicious tears flowing ITT


Blood pressure peaking with every rambling essay no one reads, ever


The editting and deleting, desperately trying to find the words to describe the rage. Mmmm Yes Yes.


So savory


So delish


:lol

3ball
12-21-2019, 07:50 PM
Juicy delicious tears flowing ITT


Blood pressure peaking with every rambling essay no one reads, ever


The editting and deleting, desperately trying to find the words to describe the rage. Mmmm Yes Yes.


So savory


So delish


:lol
The Heat were frequently a better team without wade, which proves Lebron can't play with him and the Heat weren't as good as they would've been with someone else instead of Lebron

only 2/4 with a "not 6, not 7" team is nowhere near GOAT and overlooked by the greedy media (hungry for dumb fans, aka the masses)