Giannis > Lebron

[StrongLurk]

Giannis has finally surpassed his idol.

What a FREAK.

Harden and Giannis run the league now.

[FKAri]

Not even CLOSE. Maybe at playing basketball but that's it.

[Wally450]

:facepalm

[East River Livn']

Luka already passed him. Age is a bitch.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

no sht

hes also current > peak Bran

Giannis is on a higher level than 09/10 Bran too. Better on both ends but massively better on defense

[Duncan21formvp]

He has been better since 2015

[3ball]

Giannis has finally surpassed his idol.

What a FREAK.

Harden and Giannis run the league now.
they both suck and are vastly overrated - a couple of weak-shooting, over-dribbling, chokers... not skilled at all and we saw giannis' first exposure in last year's playoffs with his favored 1 seed (the first of many, just like lebron)

[ImKobe]

Giannis is better than Lebron ever was...he'putting up more points and rebounds than Lebron ever has and he's only playing 31 mpg, he's averaging ~32 ppg in 31 mpg and that's with him only shooting 60% from the FT line this season, if he gets back to shooting them at an above 70% rate it's over.

[3ball]

Giannis is better than Lebron ever was...he'putting up more points and rebounds than Lebron ever has and he's only playing 31 mpg, he's averaging ~32 ppg in 31 mpg and that's with him only shooting 60% from the FT line this season, if he gets back to shooting them at an above 70% rate it's over.
this is true

[Manny98]

Giannis is better than Lebron ever was...he'putting up more points and rebounds than Lebron ever has and he's only playing 31 mpg, he's averaging ~32 ppg in 31 mpg and that's with him only shooting 60% from the FT line this season, if he gets back to shooting them at an above 70% rate it's over.
Giannis is averaging more points per 36,rebounds,assists,steals and blocks than peak Kobe off much higher efficiency and playing much better defense than Kobe could dream of

[3ball]

Giannis is averaging more points per 36,rebounds,assists,steals and blocks than peak Kobe off much higher efficiency and playing much better defense than Kobe could dream of
kobe was a skilled jumpshooter that got hot at some point every game, so he required different coverage, which gave his team a better chance to win than the easily exploitable giannis (exploited in 19' playoffs and 19' international games)

[AirBonner]

kobe was a skilled jumpshooter that got hot at some point every game, so he required different coverage, which gave his team a better chance to win than the easily exploitable giannis (exploited in 19' playoffs and 19' international games)
Kobe gave his team the best possible chance to win because each missed shot was actually an assist (Kobe assist) to Shaq

[3ball]

Kobe gave his team the best possible chance to win because each missed shot was actually an assist (Kobe assist) to Shaq
anytime Kobe hit 2-3 jumpers in a row, the team would get juiced and win the quarter going away

coaches had to adjust to prevent that - the reality is that coaches can meet penetrators like lebron/giannis at the rim with multiple bodies, but the only way to stop a hot jumper is to get the ball out their hands via overt double-teams

so Kobe was doubled incessantly, which got teammates open and spurred great ball movement in general

otoh, Stan Van Gundy said (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466601) they let lebron go 1-on-1 in the 2009 ECF and accumulate stats, which makes sense - it's best to let him shoot a weak jumper and employ a long-dribble style, than double-team and spur ball movement.. but with Kobe, he'll get hot and the team can run away with the game, so you have to come off his teammates and double him more

[ImKobe]

Giannis is averaging more points per 36,rebounds and blocks than peak Lebron off much higher efficiency and playing much better defense than Lebron could dream of

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[Manny98]

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So you admit that Giannis is better than peak Kobe :confusedshrug:

[ImKobe]

So you admit that Giannis is better than peak Kobe :confusedshrug:

He's having the GOAT regular season right now...he's better than anyone you can name in league history.

[3ball]

Giannis is averaging more points per 36,rebounds,assists,steals and blocks than peak Kobe off much higher efficiency and playing much better defense than Kobe could dream of
it's no surprise that today's game allows the best athlete (giannis) to produce at a level no one ever has

but that simple euro-step footwork that Giannis uses to maximize his athleticism would be done far more dominantly by Wilt, Shaq, or Robinson if they grew up in this era and played today's style.. they were even better athletes than Giannis and would take advantage of today's spacing even more

but they wouldn't win any more today then they did back then because their game (and Giannis') is based on athleticism and therefore exploitable

otoh, if you gave MJ or Kobe a 20-pt sidekick that could play some D, they were inexploitable and unbeatable.. that's less help and exploitability than the athletically-based Shaq/Giannis/Lebron/Wilt/Robinson's of the world needed/had

[Manny98]

Shaq doesn't possess the ball handling ability to replicate Giannis and MJ doesn't posses the Size and the physical tools to do what Giannis is doing either

He is truly a one in a kind player all he needs are the rings and he's destined to be the GOAT :bowdown:

[Manny98]

He's having the GOAT regular season right now...he's better than anyone you can name in league history.
You have seen the light :cheers:

[3ball]

Shaq doesn't possess the ball handling ability to replicate Giannis and MJ doesn't posses the Size and the physical tools to do what Giannis is doing either

He is truly a one in a kind player all he needs are the rings and he's destined to be the GOAT :bowdown:
he can't get the rings though because he shoots jumpers like a beginner

and his repertoire is basic.. garbage tbh.. he'd be Otis Thorpe in a previous era when posting up is all he'd be doing

[ball247]

Giannis is easy to gameplan for that

[Lebron23]

Giannis is better than Lebron ever was...he'putting up more points and rebounds than Lebron ever has and he's only playing 31 mpg, he's averaging ~32 ppg in 31 mpg and that's with him only shooting 60% from the FT line this season, if he gets back to shooting them at an above 70% rate it's over.

Not in the playoffs bro.

[plowking]

Giannis is only 25 and he is about to be a back to back MVP. Along with that he is a DPOY.

Consistency and level of play is what makes Bron one of, if not the best player ever, but Giannis got in young, and for as much as we like to tear down in the sports community these days, he is fun to watch, brings something new to the game with his skills and strength at his size, and is only getting started.
Just like Bron, he has a bit of that superman in him where he doesn't get injured much, and plays whole seasons out. So if that continues, he is going to have a couple more MVP's and longevity on his side.

We live in the social media age, so any blemishes such as him not getting past the Heat are always overblown and put under a microscope, but I don't think it is ridiculous to suggest that Giannis could catch Bron.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Stop embarrassing yourself.

[SouBeachTalents]

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[ImKobe]

Giannis is only 25 and he is about to be a back to back MVP. Along with that he is a DPOY.

Consistency and level of play is what makes Bron one of, if not the best player ever, but Giannis got in young, and for as much as we like to tear down in the sports community these days, he is fun to watch, brings something new to the game with his skills and strength at his size, and is only getting started.
Just like Bron, he has a bit of that superman in him where he doesn't get injured much, and plays whole seasons out. So if that continues, he is going to have a couple more MVP's and longevity on his side.

We live in the social media age, so any blemishes such as him not getting past the Heat are always overblown and put under a microscope, but I don't think it is ridiculous to suggest that Giannis could catch Bron.

That's a nice level-headed take. Lebron lost 3 games in a row & as a #1 seed too to the 4th seeded Celtics. None of that really mattered once Bron got a ring.

[TheCorporation]

no sht

hes also current > peak Bran

Giannis is on a higher level than 09/10 Bran too. Better on both ends but massively better on defense

Lakers Fam doesnt want your pathetic, sorry ass. Log back into Tobio Star and stop being a bitch. OKC/CP3 is your team twirp.

[TheCorporation]

He's having the GOAT regular season right now...he's better than anyone you can name in league history.

Sounds like another regular season warrior.

Disappears when the lighs get bright.

LeDaddy =STILL King of the Jungle

[Shogon]

Let's see... Giannis is at his absolute athletic peak. I would certainly hope he's better than LeBron, who is in year 17.

Anyone still see Giannis playing at a near MVP level in year 17?

Better than LeBron doe!

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[ImKobe]

Sounds like another regular season warrior.

Disappears when the lighs get bright.

LeDaddy =STILL King of the Jungle

That's what we said about Lebron, who lost with HCA/#1 seed 3 years in a row.

[Shogon]

He's having the GOAT regular season right now...he's better than anyone you can name in league history.

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[ImKobe]

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In the context of the Regular Season he had. #1 all-time PER. 30/14/6 in 30 mpg, MVP & DPOY. #1 seed and was on pace for about 70 wins (10 - 0 without Middleton) with a mediocre supporting cast prior to COVID.

[TheCorporation]

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[CountDracula]

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