View Full Version : How did LeBron lose the 2017 finals despite having so much help?
egokiller
12-19-2019, 11:34 PM
When is the last time someone had so much help in a finals series that it resulted in 6 NBA finals records being broken in the same game? In the 2017 finals game 4, the Cavs set multiple records despite Lebron's cancerous style of play and piss poor defense on KD. Has anyone ever lost a series despite with having so much help? As we know, Kyrie led all scorers that game with 40 points with Cavs winning 137-116. Name another finals game where someone had so much help that his team set 6 NBA records in a single finals game. I'll wait.
Most points in a quarter, Finals - 49
Most points in a half, Finals - 86
Most points in a half, playoffs - 86
Most 3-pointers made in a half, Finals - 13
Most combined points in a half, Finals - 154
Most 3-pointers made in a game, Finals - 24
Another one....
How were you dumb enough to admit you were Straight_Ballin in this thread?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472429&page=159
bullettooth
12-19-2019, 11:38 PM
Not hard to lose when your chances of winning are 33%. LeBron knows.
Lebron6
12-19-2019, 11:38 PM
How were you dumb enough to admit you were Straight_Ballin in this thread?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472429&page=159
3-6 :lol
face it. Your hero is NEVER WINNING A CHIP AGAIN!
Lebron6
12-19-2019, 11:38 PM
lebald needs to retire. Noone misses him. DISGRACE!!! :coleman:
SpaceJam2
12-19-2019, 11:44 PM
How were you dumb enough to admit you were Straight_Ballin in this thread?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472429&page=159
We all knew it too :lol
What a coward
stalkerforlife
12-19-2019, 11:47 PM
Another one.
Bu bu BUT Green is a sUpAdUPaSTAR.
We all knew it too :lol
What a coward
He should just admit it at this point. denying it just brings him more ridicule.
egokiller
12-19-2019, 11:49 PM
How were you dumb enough to admit you were Straight_Ballin in this thread?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472429&page=159
Nope.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13908332&postcount=2380
Now answer the question. When is the last time someone had so much help in a finals series that it resulted in 6 NBA finals records being broken in the same game?
We are waiting.
SouBeachTalents
12-19-2019, 11:49 PM
Another one.
Bu bu BUT Green is a sUpAdUPaSTAR.
I mean according to some he is top 60 of all time
egokiller
12-19-2019, 11:50 PM
Another one.
Bu bu BUT Green is a sUpAdUPaSTAR.
We were right the whole time. :applause:
1987_Lakers
12-19-2019, 11:50 PM
If were are going to look at things objectively, the 2017 Warriors are probably the GOAT team.
ImKobe
12-19-2019, 11:51 PM
He let KD Jizz in his face late in Game 3... should have been 2 - 2 after 4 games but he chokes as usual.
SpaceJam2
12-19-2019, 11:52 PM
If were are going to look at things objectively, the 2017 Warriors are probably the GOAT team.
A 73 win team did swap Barnes for KD
Lebron6
12-19-2019, 11:53 PM
I mean according to some he is top 60 of all time
lebald family needs to be put in their place. Disgrace. :cheers:
lebald is goat
3-6
:applause:
ZenMaster7210
12-19-2019, 11:54 PM
He let KD Jizz in his face late in Game 3... should have been 2 - 2 after 4 games but he chokes as usual.
:oldlol: damn KD jizzed in him!:banana: :roll:
egokiller
12-19-2019, 11:55 PM
lebald family needs to be put in their place. Disgrace. :cheers:
lebald is goat
3-6
:applause:
There is definitely something wrong if you can't win with that much help. Doesn't matter who the opponent is. It's not like GSW were setting multiple NBA records in any game that series like the Cavs were. :lol No excuse for that fraud.
aj1987
12-20-2019, 03:19 AM
Dad killer was going up against 35 year old Stock and Malone. LeBron was going up against PEAK KD, Curry (both MVP's), PEAK DPOY Green, PEAK 2nd GOAT shooter and All-NBA Klay.
Put that Cavs team against the trash that Ordan faced and he's sweep them in 60 point blowouts.
ImKobe
12-20-2019, 04:42 AM
Dad killer was going up against 35 year old Stock and Malone. LeBron was going up against PEAK KD, Curry (both MVP's), PEAK DPOY Green, PEAK 2nd GOAT shooter and All-NBA Klay.
Put that Cavs team against the trash that Ordan faced and he's sweep them in 60 point blowouts.
The "trash" Jordan faced went 8 - 1 against Duncan's Spurs and Shaq's Lakers en route to the Finals.
SpaceJam2
12-20-2019, 10:49 AM
Dad killer was going up against 35 year old Stock and Malone. LeBron was going up against PEAK KD, Curry (both MVP's), PEAK DPOY Green, PEAK 2nd GOAT shooter and All-NBA Klay.
Put that Cavs team against the trash that Ordan faced and he's sweep them in 60 point blowouts.
Bang
Duncan21formvp
12-21-2019, 01:27 AM
Or even 2009 with Peak Ben Wallace or 2010 with Peak Shaq.
SpaceJam2
12-21-2019, 02:36 AM
Or even 2009 with Peak Ben Wallace or 2010 with Peak Shaq.
:lol
Better than being swept in the first round three times with PEAK PRIME Pippen :lol
PickernRoller
12-21-2019, 03:29 AM
I can't get tired of being right. Sorry OP.
jstern
12-21-2019, 03:43 AM
Lebron ball requires more help the tougher the competition gets. It's Lebron ball's main negative. It's not a coincidence that the term "Lebron needs more help" became so popular among the (for a lack of a better word) Lebron stans.
Lebron ball gives Lebron amazing stats at the expense of his team playing a style based on the individual strengths of his teammates, which gets exposed the tougher the competition gets. This is very different than championship teams that become dynasties, such as the Jordan Bulls. As a result Lebron's teammates who have to sacrifice the most in the Lebron ball system become scapegoats and thus "Lebron needs more help." Which is true, Lebron ball requires more superstar help where even that gives him a less than 50% chance of winning in the Finals.
It's all a matter of style. Lebron ball will always have a less than 50% chance of winning in the Finals, despite massive help.
And1AllDay
12-21-2019, 02:46 PM
Dad killer was going up against 35 year old Stock and Malone. LeBron was going up against PEAK KD, Curry (both MVP's), PEAK DPOY Green, PEAK 2nd GOAT shooter and All-NBA Klay.
Put that Cavs team against the trash that Ordan faced and he's sweep them in 60 point blowouts.
bingo
:applause: :applause:
3ba11
06-23-2022, 10:07 PM
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Team assists per game
Warriors..... 29.4
Cavs........... 21.6
Since the pace and space era began, the common thread in Lebron's Finals losses is massive deficits in team assists (14', 15', 17', 18').
Lebron's frontcourt ball-dominance hogs the assists and yields an inferior, low team-assist brand that wastes Kyrie's 29 ppg - it's a pathetic your-turn-my-turn approach that gets destroyed by the Warriors' ball movement
Ultimately, Lebron's skillset has poor teammate fits, chemistry and brand of ball, so he can't win organically and must be a talent-based winner (all-star team strategy.. team-hopping).. He simply yields low team ceilings with colluded super-teams that get destroyed on the championship level (never a dynasty)
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