Last 2 Finals wins without HCA?

[Dray n Klay]

2016 Cavs (led by LeBron)

2012 Heat (led by LeBron)


Why is it so hard to win Finals without HCA, why can only LeBron do it?

[3ball]

mj did it twice - both times book-ending a 3-peat

[Dray n Klay]

mj did it twice - both times book-ending a 3-peat

Jordan LOST with an allstar teammate in 1990 and 1995

LeBron won without another all-star teammate in 2016



LeBron BEAT a 4 all-star juggernaut team twice (2011 Celtics, and 2015 Hawks), Jordan never even beat a team with 3 all stars


Times beaten a 4 all star team:

LeBron: 2

Jordan: 0



Times beaten a 3 allstar or more team

LeBron: 5

Jordan: 0

:eek:

[Akeem34TheDream]

Seeing one of the Simons and 3ball going at eachother is like watching 2 retards fight. Its both hilarious and sad.

[Dray n Klay]

Jordan LOST with an allstar teammate in 1990 and 1995

LeBron won without another all-star teammate in 2016



LeBron BEAT a 4 all-star juggernaut team twice (2011 Celtics, and 2015 Hawks), Jordan never even beat a team with 3 all stars


Times beaten a 4 all star team:

LeBron: 2

Jordan: 0



Times beaten a 3 allstar or more team

LeBron: 5

Jordan: 0

:eek:

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[SpaceJam2]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/1ZMy5AwNqsX1S/giphy.gif


3ball got quiet fast :lol

[SomeBlackDude]

4 all-star juggernaut team


2015 Hawks

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every time you hit the 'submit reply' button you destroy another part of lelegacy. :(

[And1AllDay]

Jordan LOST with an allstar teammate in 1990 and 1995

LeBron won without another all-star teammate in 2016



LeBron BEAT a 4 all-star juggernaut team twice (2011 Celtics, and 2015 Hawks), Jordan never even beat a team with 3 all stars


Times beaten a 4 all star team:

LeBron: 2

Jordan: 0



Times beaten a 3 allstar or more team

LeBron: 5

Jordan: 0

:eek:

imagine lebrans ecf team is tougher than mikes best finals :oldlol:

2015 hawks 4 all stars (60 wins)

Milsap
Horford
Teague
Korver

[Gotterdammerung]

The 1995 Houston Rockets played every playoff series on the road, and won them all.

Troll mode/
Why is it so hard to win the playoffs without HCA, why can only Hakeem do it?
/End troll mode
:oldlol:

[elementally morale]

Why don't you just go and fcuk your mom in the ass?

[Dray n Klay]

The 1995 Houston Rockets played every playoff series on the road, and won them all.

Troll mode/
Why is it so hard to win the playoffs without HCA, why can only Hakeem do it?
/End troll mode
:oldlol:


So it hasn

[And1AllDay]

Jordan LOST with an allstar teammate in 1990 and 1995

LeBron won without another all-star teammate in 2016



LeBron BEAT a 4 all-star juggernaut team twice (2011 Celtics, and 2015 Hawks), Jordan never even beat a team with 3 all stars


Times beaten a 4 all star team:

LeBron: 2

Jordan: 0



Times beaten a 3 allstar or more team

LeBron: 5

Jordan: 0

:eek:
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[ImKobe]

Lebron lost with an all-star teammate in 2009, 2011, 2014, 2017, 2018...missed the Playoffs with an all-star teammate in 2005...

[SpaceJam]

LeBron won without another all-star teammate in 2016


That's insane :eek:

[ImKobe]

That's insane :eek:

Jordan won without an all-star teammate in 1998...


Lebron lost with an all-star teammate in 2009, 2011, 2014, 2017, 2018...missed the Playoffs with an all-star teammate in 2005...

:biggums:




:roll: :roll:

[SpaceJam]

Jordan won without an all-star teammate in 1998...


That's why Bron and Jordan are in a tier of their own brother :cheers:

sorry kobe

Granted beating a 73 win team being down 3-1 and leading both teams in the five major categories is more impressive than beating 34-35 year old geriatrics

[ImKobe]

That's why Bron and Jordan are in a tier of their own brother :cheers:

sorry kobe

Granted beating a 73 win team being down 3-1 and leading both teams in the five major categories is more impressive than beating 34-35 year old geriatrics

Kobe made the Finals without an all-star teammate plus with Bynum and Ariza injured... Won B2B with just 1 all-star while Bron needed two to barely win thanks to missed FTs by the Spurs.. Kobe went 4 - 1 against the same Spurs that swept Lebron :(

[Dray n Klay]

Kobe made the Finals without an all-star teammate plus with Bynum and Ariza injured... Won B2B with just 1 all-star while Bron needed two to barely win thanks to missed FTs by the Spurs.. Kobe went 4 - 1 against the same Spurs that swept Lebron :(

Kobe missed the playoffs with an all-star starter and 3x DPOY in 2013 :oldlol:



Literally never been done before, missing the playoffs while having 2 all-star starters on the same team

[ImKobe]

Kobe missed the playoffs with an all-star starter and 3x DPOY in 2013 :oldlol:



Literally never been done before, missing the playoffs while having 2 all-star starters on the same team

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2013.html

Lakers only had one all-star that year and a D-league bench with 3 of their 6 best players missing 30+ games.

Lebron took a 35-win team to 37 wins :eek:

[SpaceJam]

Kobe made the Finals without an all-star teammate plus with Bynum and Ariza injured... Won B2B with just 1 all-star while Bron needed two to barely win thanks to missed FTs by the Spurs.. Kobe went 4 - 1 against the same Spurs that swept Lebron :(

Okay thanks for confirming that Kobe hasn't won a finals without an all-star teammate like LeBron and MJ did. Like I said, there's levels to this shit

[Dray n Klay]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2013.html

Lakers only had one all-star that year and a D-league bench with 3 of their 6 best players missing 30+ games.

Lebron took a 35-win team to 37 wins :eek:

Lakers had 2 all-star starters, try again.

[ImKobe]

Lakers had 2 all-star starters, try again.

Yeah if you include Kobe :facepalm

[Dray n Klay]

Yeah if you include Kobe :facepalm

So Kobe missed the playoffs with another all star starter teammate in 2013


LeBron won the championship in 2016 with 0 all star teammates

[Duncan21formvp]

Lebron lost gold medal and got bronze medal twice with 11 superstars on the team. He lost while having 3 other superstars to a team with one star with HCA and lost with HCA to Dwight Howard.:oldlol:

[ImKobe]

So Kobe missed the playoffs with another all star starter teammate in 2013




Lakers made the Playoffs.

[MrFonzworth]

Lakers made the Playoffs.
Kobe missed the playoffs.

[ImKobe]

Kobe missed the playoffs.

But he played 78 games which is why his team actually made the Playoffs.

[Dray n Klay]

Jordan LOST with an allstar teammate in 1990 and 1995

LeBron won without another all-star teammate in 2016



LeBron BEAT a 4 all-star juggernaut team twice (2011 Celtics, and 2015 Hawks), Jordan never even beat a team with 3 all stars


Times beaten a 4 all star team:

LeBron: 2

Jordan: 0



Times beaten a 3 allstar or more team

LeBron: 5

Jordan: 0

:eek:

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