If Bosh and Love were so important...

[Dray n Klay]

Why did the Heat make the Finals in 2012 and win the championship with Bosh injured almost the entire playoffs?

How did Heat win in 2013 with Bosh scoring 0 points in the Finals Game 7?

How did the Cavs make the Finals in 2015 with Love out the entire playoffs?

How did Cavs win the 2016 Finals with Love averaging 8ppg on 37%?

[bullettooth]

Fart.

[Detroit]

Without Bosh getting that rebound and kicking out J Shuttlesworth your idol will be 2-9 lol


Without Kyrie Irving making that go ahead 3 pointer in the Finals that your idol would've deffered because "its the right basketball play" then your idol will be 1-9 in the Finals lol

These role players that you down talk and act like they didn't matter, literally saved whatever legacy your idol has left

[Dray n Klay]

Without Bosh getting that rebound and kicking out J Shuttlesworth your idol will be 2-9 lol


Without Kyrie Irving making that go ahead 3 pointer in the Finals that your idol would've deffered because "its the right basketball play" then your idol will be 1-9 in the Finals lol

These role players that you down talk and act like they didn't matter, literally saved whatever legacy your idol has left

If Bosh scored more than 10ppg that series, they wouldn’t be in the position to need a Bosh rebound in the first place

And this thread isn’t about Kyrie Irving

Check.. mate baby boi :lol

[warriorfan]

Simple, LeBron

[Dray n Klay]

[QUOTE=warriorfan]Simple, LeBron

[Detroit]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]If Bosh scored more than 10ppg that series, they wouldn

[3ball]

[QUOTE=warriorfan]Simple, LeBron

[warriorfan]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]So all LeBron needed was one other all star guard and the team is considered

[keep-itreal]

"Lebron's team were stacked!"

2019 Cavs: 19-63, Tyrod Lue lasted only 5 games before getting fired :roll: :roll:

[AirTupac]

Without Bosh getting that rebound and kicking out J Shuttlesworth your idol will be 2-9 lol


Without Kyrie Irving making that go ahead 3 pointer in the Finals that your idol would've deffered because "its the right basketball play" then your idol will be 1-9 in the Finals lol

These role players that you down talk and act like they didn't matter, literally saved whatever legacy your idol has left


Lmfao so true.

[Dray n Klay]

LeBron and Wade or the Bucks with Monta Ellis and Brandon Jennings?
LeBron and Wade or the Bulls with Jimmy Butler and Nate Robinson?
LeBron and Wade or the Pacers with Paul George and Roy Hibbert?


The East was ass....A team with Monta Ellis and Brandon Jennings made the playoffs...


LeBron with 0 all star teammates or 73 win Warriors with 3 all stars/all nba teammates? :lol

[superduper]

If Lebron wasn't such a choking bitch, you wouldn't needs 10 alts and a thousand threads a day trying to defend his fragile legacy.

Nothing more to be said here

[Uncle Drew]

Nothing more to be said here
If only you could make that your life motto.

[And1AllDay]

Why did the Heat make the Finals in 2012 and win the championship with Bosh injured almost the entire playoffs?

How did Heat win in 2013 with Bosh scoring 0 points in the Finals Game 7?

How did the Cavs make the Finals in 2015 with Love out the entire playoffs?

How did Cavs win the 2016 Finals with Love averaging 8ppg on 37%?


this will have them shoooketh

:dancin

[bullettooth]

If Lebron wasn't such a choking bitch, you wouldn't needs 10 alts and a thousand threads a day trying to defend his fragile legacy.

TRUTH!!!!

[pegasus]

Why did the Heat make the Finals in 2012 and win the championship with Bosh injured almost the entire playoffs?

How did Heat win in 2013 with Bosh scoring 0 points in the Finals Game 7?

How did the Cavs make the Finals in 2015 with Love out the entire playoffs?

How did Cavs win the 2016 Finals with Love averaging 8ppg on 37%?
You gotta love the use of

[3ball]

the anchor of small-ball was Bosh (shown below) (https://www.si.com/nba/point-forward/2013/12/18/court-vision-chris-bosh-miami-heat-defense)


https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/10/16/4831376/chris-bosh-video-breakdown-blitz-miami-heat

http://www.espn.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/7964/chris-bosh-no-longer-just-a-one-way-player

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/chris-bosh-doesnt-block-shots-but-who-cares/

https://www.si.com/nba/point-forward/2013/12/18/court-vision-chris-bosh-miami-heat-defense

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/breakdown-chris-bosh-gives-dominating-defensive-performance/

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article1963331.html



Bosh was 29 years old in 2014, so there's no reason he wasn't the same player as previous years - his defensive (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13906736&postcount=137) performance proves he was infact the same player, while his multi-dimensional offensive reduction under lebron-ball was a primary reason the Heat didn't live up to their original expectations.

Wade wasn't the same player in 2013 or 2014, but he was only reduced to prime Pippen numbers (20/5/5 on 53% in 13/14 regular seasons... 20/5/5 on 48% in 2013 Finals and 2014 ECF... and he was generally allowed to coast in EC playoffs)

Furthermore, Wade was reduced by a suboptimal fit with Lebron, where the Heat's ORtg cratered when both were on the floor, as shown by SB Nation during the 2013 Finals (see previous post above (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13906738&postcount=138)) - the Spurs were cheating off Lebron to help on Wade and vice-versa, thus encouraging them to pass to each other for spot-ups, which the Spurs perceived both to be weak at.

[Dray n Klay]

the anchor of small-ball was Bosh (shown below) (https://www.si.com/nba/point-forward/2013/12/18/court-vision-chris-bosh-miami-heat-defense)


https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/10/16/4831376/chris-bosh-video-breakdown-blitz-miami-heat

http://www.espn.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/7964/chris-bosh-no-longer-just-a-one-way-player

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/chris-bosh-doesnt-block-shots-but-who-cares/

https://www.si.com/nba/point-forward/2013/12/18/court-vision-chris-bosh-miami-heat-defense

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/breakdown-chris-bosh-gives-dominating-defensive-performance/

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article1963331.html



Bosh was 29 years old in 2014, so there's no reason he wasn't the same player as previous years - his defensive (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13906736&postcount=137) performance proves he was infact the same player, while his multi-dimensional offensive reduction under lebron-ball was a primary reason the Heat didn't live up to their original expectations.

Wade wasn't the same player in 2013 or 2014, but he was only reduced to prime Pippen numbers (20/5/5 on 53% in 13/14 regular seasons... 20/5/5 on 48% in 2013 Finals and 2014 ECF... and he was generally allowed to coast in EC playoffs)

Furthermore, Wade was reduced by a suboptimal fit with Lebron, where the Heat's ORtg cratered when both were on the floor, as shown by SB Nation during the 2013 Finals (see previous post above (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13906738&postcount=138)) - the Spurs were cheating off Lebron to help on Wade and vice-versa, thus encouraging them to pass to each other for spot-ups, which the Spurs perceived both to be weak at.


Now make an argument for Love

[3ball]

Now make an argument for Love


K Love 15-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2018-sum:advanced).... 20.1 PER.. 17.1 ppg.. 57.3 ts.. 115 ortg.. 0.169 ws/48
Pippen 90-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1990-1993-sum:advanced).... 19.4 PER.. 18.5 ppg.. 53.8 ts.. 110 ortg.. 0.147 ws/48


So MJ won far more games over that stretch with his 2nd option getting less than Lebron's 3rd option... :oldlol:.. #truecarryjob... :bowdown:

Should I post Kyrie's numbers now?

[SpaceJam2]

K Love 15-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2018-sum:advanced).... 20.1 PER.. 17.1 ppg.. 57.3 ts.. 115 ortg.. 0.169 ws/48
Pippen 90-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1990-1993-sum:advanced).... 19.4 PER.. 18.5 ppg.. 53.8 ts.. 110 ortg.. 0.147 ws/48


So MJ won far more games over that stretch with his 2nd option getting less than Lebron's 3rd option... :oldlol:.. #truecarryjob... :bowdown:

Should I post Kyrie's numbers now?

Defense is a lock, right?

Pip > MJ > Love

Now for offense

Pip outscored teams #2 option in 5 of 6 Finals

How many for Love?

Tick-tock

[RRR3]

K Love 15-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2018-sum:advanced).... 20.1 PER.. 17.1 ppg.. 57.3 ts.. 115 ortg.. 0.169 ws/48
Pippen 90-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1990-1993-sum:advanced).... 19.4 PER.. 18.5 ppg.. 53.8 ts.. 110 ortg.. 0.147 ws/48


So MJ won far more games over that stretch with his 2nd option getting less than Lebron's 3rd option... :oldlol:.. #truecarryjob... :bowdown:

Should I post Kyrie's numbers now?
Love couldn't guard a chair.

[Dray n Klay]

K Love 15-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2018-sum:advanced).... 20.1 PER.. 17.1 ppg.. 57.3 ts.. 115 ortg.. 0.169 ws/48
Pippen 90-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1990-1993-sum:advanced).... 19.4 PER.. 18.5 ppg.. 53.8 ts.. 110 ortg.. 0.147 ws/48


So MJ won far more games over that stretch with his 2nd option getting less than Lebron's 3rd option... :oldlol:.. #truecarryjob... :bowdown:

Should I post Kyrie's numbers now?

Post Love

[ImKobe]

K Love 15-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2018-sum:advanced).... 20.1 PER.. 17.1 ppg.. 57.3 ts.. 115 ortg.. 0.169 ws/48
Pippen 90-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1990-1993-sum:advanced).... 19.4 PER.. 18.5 ppg.. 53.8 ts.. 110 ortg.. 0.147 ws/48


So MJ won far more games over that stretch with his 2nd option getting less than Lebron's 3rd option... :oldlol:.. #truecarryjob... :bowdown:

Should I post Kyrie's numbers now?
:roll: :roll:

[SpaceJam2]

Defense is a lock, right?

Pip > MJ > Love

Now for offense

Pip outscored teams #2 option in 5 of 6 Finals

How many for Love?

Tick-tock

Anyone?

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