The Raptors scored 47pts in one quarter last night

[Hey Yo]

The 1998 Jazz scored a total of 54pts for an entire Finals game.



let that talent/competition differential sink in.

[FKAri]

You're just looking at offense...You have to take into account that defense was much better back then. You had big man defensive stalwarts in the league like Pointy McElbows and Kneeball McGee. Absolute beasts on that end despite being slow footed and weighing as much as Richard Simmons. But they somehow managed though it may seem baffling to us as to how.

[ArbitraryWater]

Even watching the 2010 finals, the offenses look fairly decripit.

[superduper]

You have to be seriously out of touch with reality to make comments like this tbh.

That's like comparing scientists now to scientists from 1998. Does that logic make any sense to you Hey Yo?

[ArbitraryWater]

You're just looking at offense...You have to take into account that defense was much better back then. You had big man defensive stalwarts in the league like Pointy McElbows and Kneeball McGee. Absolute beasts on that end despite being slow footed and weighing as much as Richard Simmons. But they somehow managed though it may seem baffling to us as to how.

:oldlol:

[BigKobeFan]

How come vince carter can still dunk in game?

[ArbitraryWater]

How come vince carter can still dunk in game?

:biggums: :biggums:

[SomeBlackDude]

what are people not understanding about this? :confusedshrug:

https://i.postimg.cc/MTBd1mkP/NBA-Freedom-of-Movement.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/WzRYyf6c/NBA-Freedom-of-Movement-2.jpg

the nba explicitly spells it out- "stop playing/allowing defense. :no: "

lemorons- "why's dey scoring so much points now doe? all da skillz? :cletus: "

[SomeBlackDude]

2014-2015 NBA (last season pre 'freedom of movement' rules)
PPG: 100
Pace: 93.9
EFG: .496
ORTG: 106.4

2018-2019 NBA (last full season under 'freedom of movement' rules)
PPG: 111.2 [+11.2] *most in post merger nba history*
Pace: 100 [+6.1]
EFG: .524 [+28%] *highest in nba history*
ORTG: 110.4 [+4] *highest in nba history*

non idiots- "obviously the nba's plot to destroy defenses once and for all has worked like gangbusters."

leidiots- "playaz now is just so much more skilled than 4 years ago. biggerer, fasterer, jumpz much higher. no more grocery baggers like steph and bron."

[Marchesk]

Because a regular season game against the Mavs is totally like a finals game against Jordan's Bulls. :facepalm

[ArbitraryWater]

2014-2015 NBA (last season pre 'freedom of movement' rules)
PPG: 100
Pace: 93.9
EFG: .496
ORTG: 106.4

2018-2019 NBA (last full season under 'freedom of movement' rules)
PPG: 111.2 [+11.2] *most in post merger nba history*
Pace: 100 [+6.1]
EFG: .524 [+28%] *highest in nba history*
ORTG: 110.4 [+4] *highest in nba history*

non idiots- "obviously the nba's plot to destroy defenses once and for all has worked like gangbusters."

leidiots- "playaz now is just so much more skilled than 4 years ago. biggerer, fasterer, jumpz much higher. no more grocery baggers like steph and bron."

i dont notice any specific calls now called that weren't before though? :confusedshrug:


any visual examples of patterns?

[SomeBlackDude]

a finals game against Jordan's Bulls. :facepalm

2nd 3peat Bulls Finals Opponents Offense

'96 sonics
reg season: 104.5 pts/gm (#2 in nba); 110.3 ortg (#8 in nba)
finals vs bulls: 89.2 pts/gm (-15.3 pts/gm); 106.7 ortg (-3.6)

'97 jazz
reg season: 103.1 pts/gm (#2 in nba); 113.6 ortg (#2 in nba)
finals: 87.2 pts/gm (-15.9 pts/gm); 103.8 ortg (-9.8)

'98 jazz
reg season: 101 pts/gm (#1 in nba) 112.7 ortg (#1 in the nba)
finals: 80 pts/gm (-21 pts/gm); 96.1 ortg (-16.6)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KAsT8qNeO5A/hqdefault.jpg

:bowdown: :bowdown:


any visual examples of patterns?

skrait from the horse's mouth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9oKAYP2***)

[Manny98]

2nd 3peat Bulls Finals Opponents Offense

'96 sonics
reg season: 104.5 pts/gm (#2 in nba); 110.3 ortg (#8 in nba)
finals vs bulls: 89.2 pts/gm (-15.3 pts/gm); 106.7 ortg (-3.6)

'97 jazz
reg season: 103.1 pts/gm (#2 in nba); 113.6 ortg (#2 in nba)
finals: 87.2 pts/gm (-15.9 pts/gm); 103.8 ortg (-9.8)

'98 jazz
reg season: 101 pts/gm (#1 in nba) 112.7 ortg (#1 in the nba)
finals: 80 pts/gm (-21 pts/gm); 96.1 ortg (-16.6)

https://i.postimg.cc/MGFHBg1w/EDuq-WJRXo-AA4so-V.jpg

:bowdown: :bowdown:



skrait from the horse's mouth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9oKAYP2***)
Fixed :bowdown:

[SomeBlackDude]

Fixed :bowdown:

http://37.media.tumblr.com/4a794d0720ad2312e58521c2d8c9e123/tumblr_n1jffcGCUf1svefdfo1_r1_250.gif

1997-1998 DPOY voting
1) Mutombo
2) Payton
3) Robinson
4) Jordan
5) Duncan/Rodman/Outlaw/Blaylock

https://media.giphy.com/media/RnHUFvkvxD1PG/giphy.gif

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[Vino24]

http://37.media.tumblr.com/4a794d0720ad2312e58521c2d8c9e123/tumblr_n1jffcGCUf1svefdfo1_r1_250.gif

1997-1998 DPOY voting
1) Mutombo
2) Payton
3) Robinson
4) Jordan
5) Duncan/Rodman/Outlaw/Blaylock

https://media.giphy.com/media/RnHUFvkvxD1PG/giphy.gif

:bowdown: :bowdown:
Amazing because Pippen was better than all of them. Had to protect their golden boy doe

[SomeBlackDude]

Amazing because Pippen was better than all of them. Had to protect their golden boy doe

what was truly amazing was prime pip missing half the season with brokebackitis and a 35 year old jordan leading the bulls to 62 wins, the 3rd ranked defense, while winning mvp, scoring title, and finishing 4th in dpoy.

but don't let the facts get in the way of a great story. :cheers:

[red1]

Yup. The talent disparity is huge. We have sweaty africans running around in the league now guys like siakam ibaka giannis etc. MJ went up against middle-aged white guys like stockton and ducked the only african of his era in hakeem.

[red1]

what are people not understanding about this? :confusedshrug:

https://i.postimg.cc/MTBd1mkP/NBA-Freedom-of-Movement.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/WzRYyf6c/NBA-Freedom-of-Movement-2.jpg

the nba explicitly spells it out- "stop playing/allowing defense. :no: "

lemorons- "why's dey scoring so much points now doe? all da skillz? :cletus: "
everyone knows that these rules exist only to protect domestic players. the league saw what happened to american whites how they got surpassed and lapped tenfold by the european whites, and while the concern is much less they are still worried for domestic african-americans. especially now that you have sweaty foreign africans taking over the league.

[Bronbron23]

what are people not understanding about this? :confusedshrug:

https://i.postimg.cc/MTBd1mkP/NBA-Freedom-of-Movement.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/WzRYyf6c/NBA-Freedom-of-Movement-2.jpg

the nba explicitly spells it out- "stop playing/allowing defense. :no: "

lemorons- "why's dey scoring so much points now doe? all da skillz? :cletus: "
This. Its a fact but lebron stans still try to deny it. Trolls gonna troll i guess.

[Keno]

I thought this was well known before last night's game. night and day difference.

[SomeBlackDude]

especially now that you have sweaty foreign africans taking over the league.

this is litrally the only era where this starting lineup

ibaka
onunoby
siakam
mccaw
lowry

can score damn near 50 in a quarter.

litrally the only one.

10 teams played that same night. 5 scored more than the raps (nuggets topped the night with 128 points in regulation. night before the rockets had 139 and the clippers 134. all in regulation). raps scored nearly 50 in a quarter and it was only good for a middle of the pack performance in one day in the nba. no one batted an eye.

[FKAri]

Amazing because Pippen was better than all of them. Had to protect their golden boy doe
They could push ads, biased commentary, biased refs, shitty shoes, rigged games, fake accolades BUT...
They couldn't doctor the footage. We have the footage of the incompetent, clumsy, baboons who littered the league in the 90s. And it is ****ing hilarious. Therefore, when viewed through an objective lens, we can see the 90's for what they really were: Trash.

[Hey Yo]

what was truly amazing was prime pip missing half the season with brokebackitis and a 35 year old jordan leading the bulls to 62 wins, the 3rd ranked defense, while winning mvp, scoring title, and finishing 4th in dpoy.

but don't let the facts get in the way of a great story. :cheers:
Yet Pip was named All-NBA on both sides of the court that year in only 44gms played.


Either Pip was absolute shit with his "brokebackitis" or that the league was that watered down that the voters had no other valid choice to give those All-NBA nods to, other than a guy who only played 44gms

Which is it?

[red1]

this is litrally the only era where this starting lineup

ibaka
onunoby
siakam
mccaw
lowry

can score damn near 50 in a quarter.

litrally the only one.

10 teams played that same night. 5 scored more than the raps (nuggets topped the night with 128 points in regulation. night before the rockets had 139 and the clippers 134. all in regulation). raps scored nearly 50 in a quarter and it was only good for a middle of the pack performance in one day in the nba. no one batted an eye.
I was just kidding around. Everyone already knows that MJ went up against john and karl from the post office aka john stockton. Meanwhile the lineup you posted is damn near wakanda's finest. That's a big difference. :oldlol:

[bigkingsfan]

MJ "toughest" finals opponent.

[Marchesk]

MJ "toughest" finals opponent.

Yeah, too bad MJ didn't have to face a 57 win Mavs team, having to deal with the great Jason Terry and JJ Barea.

[bigkingsfan]

Yeah, too bad MJ didn't have to face a 57 win Mavs team, having to deal with the great Jason Terry and JJ Barea.
Exactly, they were juggernauts, sweeping the the back two champs. Imagine what they do to Mikey.

[SomeBlackDude]

Yeah, too bad MJ didn't have to face a 57 win Mavs team, having to deal with the great Jason Terry and JJ Barea.

asgard's finest.

https://dmn-dallas-news-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer//acGFviTB5AgNe3dnV__Wi9JRT0k=/1660x934/filters:focal(284x133:294x123):no_upscale()/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-dmn.s3.amazonaws.com/public/5UA4QPCCTKJ7UJ5LAQYVAPZ2JI.jpg

:bowdown:


Yet Pip was named All-NBA on both sides of the court that year in only 44gms played.


Either Pip was absolute shit with his "brokebackitis" or that the league was that watered down that the voters had no other valid choice to give those All-NBA nods to, other than a guy who only played 44gms

Which is it?

same reason legoat made all nba last season playing in only 55 games for a 37 win team. or fun guy making second team playing only 60 games. or big joel making second team all nba playing in only 64. or lebrow making first team last season after playing in only 56 games. or steph making an all nba team in '18 only playing 51 games.

etc etc etc

:confusedshrug:

[RRR3]

asgard's finest.

https://dmn-dallas-news-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer//acGFviTB5AgNe3dnV__Wi9JRT0k=/1660x934/filters:focal(284x133:294x123):no_upscale()/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-dmn.s3.amazonaws.com/public/5UA4QPCCTKJ7UJ5LAQYVAPZ2JI.jpg

:bowdown:



same reason legoat made all nba last season playing in only 55 games for a 37 win team. or fun guy making second team playing only 60 games. or big joel making second team all nba playing in only 64. or lebrow making first team last season after playing in only 56 games. or steph making an all nba team in '18 only playing 51 games.

etc etc etc

:confusedshrug:
44 is still less than all of those other players, significantly less in many of the cases you listed....So you're going on record stating that Scottie Pippen is on the same level as the likes of LeBron, Kawhi, and Curry as a player? Damn :eek:

[SomeBlackDude]

44 is still less than all of those other players, significantly less in many of the cases you listed....So you're going on record stating that Scottie Pippen is on the same level as the likes of LeBron, Kawhi, and Curry as a player? Damn :eek:

i'm on the record that these past few seasons have seen players putting in 51-55 games a season, some on 30-something win teams, making all nba squads. so it's not crazy that a dude riding the goat's coattails on a 62 win squad would make an all nba third team.

now, back on topic.

who can explain to me what's going on here?

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-17-2019/K6T_1E.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-17-2019/zzXRz1.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-16-2019/5gsol2.gif

the f*ck is this?

:confusedshrug:

[Gileraracer]

Because a regular season game against the Mavs is totally like a finals game against Jordan's Bulls. :facepalm


OP is completely retarded

[Uncle Drew]

Because a regular season game against the Mavs is totally like a finals game against Jordan's Bulls. :facepalm
Tim Hardaway jr. is essentially on the same level as Jordan.

[ArbitraryWater]

asgard's finest.

https://dmn-dallas-news-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer//acGFviTB5AgNe3dnV__Wi9JRT0k=/1660x934/filters:focal(284x133:294x123):no_upscale()/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-dmn.s3.amazonaws.com/public/5UA4QPCCTKJ7UJ5LAQYVAPZ2JI.jpg

:bowdown:



same reason legoat made all nba last season playing in only 55 games for a 37 win team. or fun guy making second team playing only 60 games. or big joel making second team all nba playing in only 64. or lebrow making first team last season after playing in only 56 games. or steph making an all nba team in '18 only playing 51 games.

etc etc etc

:confusedshrug:

ahh yes, pip playing 44 gms is the same as embiid playing 64 :oldlol:

Dumbass

none of those things are eyebrow raisers.

the pip one is.

[ArbitraryWater]

i'm on the record that these past few seasons have seen players putting in 51-55 games a season, some on 30-something win teams, making all nba squads. so it's not crazy that a dude riding the goat's coattails on a 62 win squad would make an all nba third team.

now, back on topic.

who can explain to me what's going on here?

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-17-2019/K6T_1E.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-17-2019/zzXRz1.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-16-2019/5gsol2.gif

the f*ck is this?

:confusedshrug:


you build your POV on the state of the NBA based on Milly and Utah trying a stupid strategy of playing Harden from behind for 2 games?

Good grief.

Probably stored those images when they happened for future use :oldlol:

[superduper]

This thread is proof that kids who stan Bran are insanely out of touch with reality let alone basketball.

[SomeBlackDude]

*checks the boxscores from last night. sees the 12-17 spurs dropped 145 points in regulation.

guess trey lyles and bryn forbes' new age skill set were on full display. :bowdown:


ahh yes, pip playing 44 gms is the same as embiid playing 64

Dumbass

none of those things are eyebrow raisers.

the pip one is.

bron played 55 games on a 37-45 squad last season and made the third team all nba squad like pip did when he played 44 games on a 62-20 squad.


you build your POV on the state of the NBA based on Milly and Utah trying a stupid strategy of playing Harden from behind for 2 games?

Good grief.

a dude who can't drive right is putting up nearly 40 ppg... and that's the type of defense he's sees on a nightly basis. the jazz gifs are from last year's playoffs.

beard at 26: 29 ppg

beard at 30: 39 ppg

he was consistently in the 29-30 ppg range pre FOM rules. change happens, all of a sudden he's pushing 40... at age 30+.

explain.

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