ESPN Michael Jordan documentary 'The Last Dance' Official Discussion Thread

[Poetry]

Preview footage:
http://1.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/89/38/b61555e429e5eab3cca760d48d0fbc90.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Peh9Yqf1GXc

ESPN Michael Jordan documentary TV listings, dates and times:

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=22804

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[bison]

Ngl, I am psyched for this.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

10 hour documentary?

GOAT content incoming. Pretty sure it'll be on Netflix too.

[Mr Feeny]

This is going to be fantastic!!!

[Airupthere]

Thanks, great!

[Akeem34TheDream]

I've been waiting this for 2 years. It will be great I hope.

[bigkingsfan]

http://1.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/89/38/b61555e429e5eab3cca760d48d0fbc90.gif


Typical 90's defense

[Indian guy]

I'm as obsessed about MJ as anyone, but what in GOD's name are they going to talk about for 10 hours that covers only 1 season??

[Smook A.]

Can't wait

[BigShotBob]

]How many untold stories is this nigguh gonna have at this point?[/B] I thought Michael Jordan to the MAX covered this already. I even rented that shit from BlockBuster when it came out. :oldlol: :facepalm

I'm thinking the same thing. This shit ain't archaeology, it's just the 90's.

[ClipperRevival]

Can't wait.

Many had MJ the GOAT after the first 3 peat but it was his 2nd 3 peat that put him at a God tier level. We are not worthy. :bowdown:

[coin24]

Fu*k yeah can't wait!!!

[MrFonzworth]

Typical 90's defense
:oldlol:

[ClipperRevival]

The odd/weird thing about this doc is that it is only from the 1997-98 season, when MJ was 34-35, past his prime. The greater story would've been all the stuff prior, when he was at his physical peak and taking souls and not having to smart his way to rings. But still, the youngsters should appreciate this.

[Da_Realist]

The most drama filled season of any of the Bulls championship seasons. Looking forward to it.

[SpaceJam]

Typical 90's defense

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[elementally morale]

I'm as obsessed about MJ as anyone, but what in GOD's name are they going to talk about for 10 hours that covers only 1 season??


https://www.amazon.com/Forty-Eight-Minutes-Night-Life-NBA/dp/0020360509

I read this book when I was 15. Made me a real fan of the NBA. It is about one game. One. Very good read.

[highwhey]

Typical 90's defense
:roll:

[stalkerforlife]

GOAT basketball documentary.

[Mr Feeny]

The odd/weird thing about this doc is that it is only from the 1997-98 season, when MJ was 34-35, past his prime. The greater story would've been all the stuff prior, when he was at his physical peak and taking souls and not having to smart his way to rings. But still, the youngsters should appreciate this.

Yeah but the 98 season was a great story. Jordan coming back after 1 year extension after he called out Kraus in the 97 championship celebration and put him on the spot as far as keeping the team intact for one last run. Scottie demanding to be traded. Kraus telling Phil he didn't care if the latter went 82-0, that he was "done". Krause parading that college basketballball coach (something Floyd) around as Phil's replacement. Krause then pulling the rug and reneging. Rodman and his wrestling antics during the finals when he would disappear to go wrestle.

There are so many stories to tell in that season. The Indiana series. Jordan' retirement. Dick Ebersol reportedly turning over to his assistant when stockton hit the 3 in game 6 and making a $ salute (as in, here comes a game 7 and more cash) before Jordan went nuts and decided to take over. The massacre in game 3.

This will be a great documentary.

[ClipperRevival]

Yeah but the 98 season was a great story. Jordan coming back after 1 year extension after he called out Kraus in the 97 championship celebration and put him on the spot as far as keeping the team intact for one last run. Scottie demanding to be traded. Kraus telling Phil he didn't care if the latter went 82-0, that he was "done". Krause parading that college basketballball coach (something Floyd) around as Phil's replacement. Krause then pulling the rug and reneging. Rodman and his wrestling antics during the finals when he would disappear to go wrestle.

There are so many stories to tell in that season. The Indiana series. Jordan' retirement. Dick Ebersol reportedly turning over to his assistant when stockton hit the 3 in game 6 and making a $ salute (as in, here comes a game 7 and more cash) before Jordan went nuts and decided to take over. The massacre in game 3.

This will be a great documentary.

Yeah, for sure. But for me, if they were going to do a 10 hour doc, I would've preferred a complete coverage of MJ from start to finish and not just one season.

[Mr Feeny]

Yeah, for sure. But for me, if they were going to do a 10 hour doc, I would've preferred a complete coverage of MJ from start to finish and not just one season.

I agree. I'm guessing that the reason they're focusing on 98 is because they have a lot of footage given that everyone knew it was Jordan's last year in advance and cameras were rolling everywhere.

[Da_Realist]

Yeah, for sure. But for me, if they were going to do a 10 hour doc, I would've preferred a complete coverage of MJ from start to finish and not just one season.

No, this is perfect. The culmination. The cap on the second three-peat. A documentary focused on overcoming adversity. Overcoming injuries. Overcoming all the internal strife that threatened to implode the team. Watching an older champion fend off younger, more talented teams. Watching the Bulls get pushed to the limit.

No, this is perfect. There are plenty of MJ-only docs out there. This is way more interesting.

[Da_Realist]

10 more hours of people slobbering MJs ****, just what we needed :rolleyes:

$500 if there is ever any equivalent level of interest about LeBron or any of his championship seasons. Standing offer. I don't care if it's 50 years from now as long as I'm alive.

[egokiller]

Looks amazing, and gives those who never saw MJ (who did more with less) a chance to see such greatness. I

[Manny98]

[QUOTE=egokiller]Looks amazing, and gives those who never saw MJ (who did more with less) a chance to see such greatness. I

[egokiller]

I can't lie, I'm excited to see the great Michael Jordan score on my local plumber Jeff Hornacek in full HD :banana:

Hornacek doesn

[guy]

:rant
The odd/weird thing about this doc is that it is only from the 1997-98 season, when MJ was 34-35, past his prime. The greater story would've been all the stuff prior, when he was at his physical peak and taking souls and not having to smart his way to rings. But still, the youngsters should appreciate this.

It

[Manny98]

[QUOTE=guy]:rant

It

[FKAri]

No, this is perfect. The culmination. The cap on the second three-peat. A documentary focused on overcoming adversity. Overcoming injuries. Overcoming all the internal strife that threatened to implode the team. Watching an older champion fend off younger, more talented teams. Watching the Bulls get pushed to the limit.

No, this is perfect. There are plenty of MJ-only docs out there. This is way more interesting.
This would be the 3rd "major" doc to focus on MJ's 98 season and there aren't any long form docs on MJ's career that I've seen (would like to be corrected if there are). I'd even like if something covered MJ's 1st retirement comeback into the championship in 96. or maybe even focus on him finally overcoming Detroit in 91. 98 really has been covered to death imho.

My fear is that this is going to be a rehash of what we already know bloated by "guest appearances" with long sit downs which will end up taking focus away from MJ.

[Da_Realist]

I'd even like if something covered MJ's 1st retirement comeback into the championship in 96.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0


or maybe even focus on him finally overcoming Detroit in 91.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=17m01s


My fear is that this is going to be a rehash of what we already know bloated by "guest appearances" with long sit downs which will end up taking focus away from MJ.

No you know this documentary will expose the huge gulf of difference between your boy and MJ. A ton of younger fans that's never seen anything other than basketball-reference will get a chance to see what a real competitor looks like.

[FKAri]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=17m01s



No you know this documentary will expose the huge gulf of difference between your boy and MJ. A ton of younger fans that's never seen anything other than basketball-reference will get a chance to see what a real competitor looks like.
Those are NBA produced fluff pieces. Not real docs.

My boy? Don't believe everything you see on the internet. It's unhealthy :oldlol:

[Poetry]

Agreed i would love to see the story of how MJ got shut down by 6'2 Gary Payton in the finals and how Dennis Rodman came to the rescue :applause:

Didn't Steph Curry hold LeBron to 0 points on 32 possessions in the Finals?

[egokiller]

Didn't Steph Curry hold LeBron to 0 points on 32 possessions in the Finals?

And he did it without the ability to hand check. Lebron is a fraud.

[Manny98]

Didn't Steph Curry hold LeBron to 0 points on 32 possessions in the Finals?
No he didn't hold shit single coverage

[Leviathon1121]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=17m01s



No you know this documentary will expose the huge gulf of difference between your boy and MJ. A ton of younger fans that's never seen anything other than basketball-reference will get a chance to see what a real competitor looks like.
FKAri is a fantastic anti LeBron troll.

[Leviathon1121]

No he didn't hold shit single coverage
Is LeBron consensus GOAT yet? Is it even close yet?

[Da_Realist]

JUNE 2020 :pimp:

[Da_Realist]

The Last Dance New Trailer (March 2020) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUSq5cPiacM)

[SamuraiSWISH]

I'm as obsessed about MJ as anyone, but what in GOD's name are they going to talk about for 10 hours that covers only 1 season??

Yea we always see you obsession and being a fan of Jordan :lol

[Nilocon165]

Typical 90's defense

https://media0.giphy.com/media/3j9GJRoshVyidxgu2I/giphy.gif

[sdot_thadon]

Yea we always see you obsession and being a fan of Jordan :lol

All nba fans of a certian age, are Mj fans. It's unavoidable we grew up on him. That said we don't all have to be dick size defending zealots to prove our fandom........

[FKAri]

I heard there's even an interview with Madonna. When pressed to divulge any details about the segment a producer responded, "it's short" before chuckling and walking away.

[sdot_thadon]

I heard there's even an interview with Madonna. When pressed to divulge any details about the segment a producer responded, "it's short" before chuckling and walking away.

:oldlol:

[3ball]

with the post season likely cancelled, this will be our NBA Entertainment this summer

it will be like a 7th ring

[sdot_thadon]

with the post season likely cancelled, this will be our NBA Entertainment this summer

it will be like a 7th ring

or a 24,307th blow job for his airness.

[3ball]

or a 24,307th blow job for his airness.
how come lebron needs star #1 options to be his #2 options (and even his #3 options)?... only lebron needs and gets this (aside from when Durant had curry or Shaq had Kobe)

I'm surprised that lebron fans by now don't know enough about the game to demand more from Lebron..... like the footwork and/or pull-up/turnaround jumpshooting ability needed to shred defenders within a couple seconds of catching the ball - this would allow him to have ball movement juggernaut teams like the spurs and warriors, but instead his ball-dominant skillset results in weaker teams that struggle in the championship.

I suppose as long as lebron keeps being the only guy that enjoys star #1 options as his #2 and #3 guys, he'll win just enough (33% in championship) to placate his fans/media, and infact leave them wanting more.. otoh, MJ preferred to spoil his fans..

[FKAri]

how come lebron..
b-b-but lebron wut about Lebron!

[3ball]

b-b-but lebron wut about Lebron!
yes, I'm constantly scratching my head on how someone who needs SO much help yet still mostly loses by wide margins, can't produce dominant teams, can't shoot great from any distance, and routinely defers in the clutch could be compared to MJ

yes I'm guilty of wondering this everytime I turn on the TV.. guilty as charged

[Axe]

b-b-but lebron wut about Lebron!
He's probably going to retire in less than five years now. 😹

[Horatio33]

I'm as obsessed about MJ as anyone, but what in GOD's name are they going to talk about for 10 hours that covers only 1 season??

I imagine it will jump to the past and back to fill in the story for none Jordan\Bulls fans.

[Horatio33]

yes, I'm constantly scratching my head on how someone who needs SO much help yet still mostly loses by wide margins, can't produce dominant teams, can't shoot great from any distance, and routinely defers in the clutch could be compared to MJ

yes I'm guilty of wondering this everytime I turn on the TV.. guilty as charged

Why do you continue to watch someone you clearly dislike? Strange behaviour.

[scuzzy]

Typical 90's defense
:lol

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhGasOi8YOM

[Trollsmasher]

Hearing that the movie was supposed to open with a montage of 1-9 but MJ threw a fit and axed it

[andgar923]

Hearing that the movie was supposed to open with a montage of 1-9 but MJ threw a fit and axed it

That'd be cute if MJ never acknowledged his struggles or constantly made excuses.

Too bad for you it's the opposite.

[DoctorP]

Justin Timberlake being in the trailer kind of killed the vibe for me.

[Mr Feeny]

https://youtu.be/-QGM0T5TdPs

[GreatHILL]

"Competetion was his addiction" - Phil
"Go out there and win, at any cost" MJ

"Taco Tuessssday" LBJ

lmao thats true :oldlol:

[FKAri]

lmao thats true :oldlol:

Poor MJ. It just comes so easy for LeGOAT :(

[Turbo Slayer]

Michael Jordan is the greatest player of all-time. No debate. :applause:

[Bronbron23]

3 chips in 17 years dosnt sound easy. It didnt look easy either.

[Axe]

3 chips in 17 years dosnt sound easy. It didnt look easy either.
To give some perspective, kobe has already won 3 chips before reaching the tenth year of his career.

[Lebron23]

To give some perspective, kobe has already won 3 chips before reaching the tenth year of his career.

With Prime Shaq as the finals MVP.

[Axe]

With Prime Shaq as the finals MVP.
Obviously.

[GimmeThat]

I suppose old men wanting older women instead of younger ladies will be on air

[Da_Realist]

ABC/ESPN’s highly anticipated 10-part Michael Jordan documentary, “The Last Dance,” is being moved up to April, The Post has learned.


https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/espn-moving-up-michael-jordan-documentary-release-date-with-sports-fans-desperate/

[SamuraiSWISH]

ABC/ESPN’s highly anticipated 10-part Michael Jordan documentary, “The Last Dance,” is being moved up to April, The Post has learned.


https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/espn-moving-up-michael-jordan-documentary-release-date-with-sports-fans-desperate/
Thank god. Nothing else to watch, maximized viewership ... and it was stupid they pushed it back the first time. Can't wait.

[Da_Realist]

Thank god. Nothing else to watch, maximized viewership ... and it was stupid they pushed it back the first time. Can't wait.

This will get Finals numbers

[Nowoco]

This will get Finals numbers

Most definitely.

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Z9JtNcCWY

[ArbitraryWater]

do you think they will be bold/daring enough to highlight the officiating in game 6?

[FKAri]

do you think they will be bold/daring enough to highlight the officiating in game 6?

No. It's a sports puff piece. You're not allowed to say anything negative about guys like Bron, Magic, Kobe, MJ, etc.
Everyone's supposed to just circlejerCk themselves talking about these guys.
The only exceptions are their challenges growing up and on court adversaries.

[FireDavidKahn]

The Scottie "Tree Trunk" Pippen documentary:applause:

[FireDavidKahn]

do you think they will be bold/daring enough to highlight the officiating in game 6?

Or the push off?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Or the push off?

:oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

Or the push off?

It wasn't one


No. It's a sports puff piece. You're not allowed to say anything negative about guys like Bron, Magic, Kobe, MJ, etc.
Everyone's supposed to just circlejerCk themselves talking about these guys.
The only exceptions are their challenges growing up and on court adversaries.

thats true

[Nowoco]

Or the push off?

What by Reggie Miller on MJ in the ECF?

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXM6ZKuAkRo

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qlp2BeSxf8

This dude... :rolleyes:

[FKAri]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qlp2BeSxf8

This dude... :rolleyes:
Hot Sauces tore Rob Parker apart :oldlol:

Has anyone been owned that hard in a sports debate? If anyone has please link.



EDIT - Though I don't agree with everything he says. Like the "Lebron wouldn't do that[talk himself up]" part. I think he def could do that.

[sdot_thadon]

https://youtu.be/1WnLNdFravg&t=13m29s

Bill Simmons thinks Mj chose to release this documentary to protect his legacy from Lebron......

[Stanley Kobrick]

https://youtu.be/1WnLNdFravg&t=13m29s

Bill Simmons thinks Mj chose to release this documentary to protect his legacy from Lebron......
this wouldn't surprise me at all. not a lebron fan in the slightest but Michael along with his fans have always been the most insecure of them all.

[SamuraiSWISH]

this wouldn't surprise me at all. not a lebron fan in the slightest but Michael along with his fans have always been the most insecure of them all.
No, rightfully protective of something that was clearly earned, and not given or false promoted or self promoted IE LeAttention Whore.

Mike didn't control the making of the documentary, production, marketing, or when it's released. The original date got pushed back to begin with. ESPN is in control, they wanted to release it in June after the initial push back.

Now is just a perfect time to release it, for maximized viewership when absolutely nothing else is going on. Especially as a distraction for the country with all the anxiety and fear going on.

[Da_Realist]

https://youtu.be/1WnLNdFravg&t=13m29s

Bill Simmons thinks Mj chose to release this documentary to protect his legacy from Lebron......

More correctly, Bill Simmons thinks MJ chose to release this documentary to protect his legacy from the ignorance of LeBron fans.

[Stanley Kobrick]

No, rightfully protective of something that was clearly earned, and not given or false promoted or self promoted IE LeAttention Whore.

Mike didn't control the making of the documentary, production, marketing, or when it's released. The original date got pushed back to begin with. ESPN is in control, they wanted to release it in June after the initial push back.

Now is just a perfect time to release it, for maximized viewership when absolutely nothing else is going on. Especially as a distraction for the country with all the anxiety and fear going on.
aren't you the user that tried defending Michael's genitalia size? that in itself reiterates my point. disturbing insecure fandom

[sdot_thadon]

Mike didn't control the making of the documentary, production, marketing, or when it's released. The original date got pushed back to begin with. ESPN is in control, they wanted to release it in June after the initial push back.

On the video clip Simmons says Espn approached Mj about doing this in 2009, said he had zero interest until after 2016, when the Lebron/Mj debate really caught fire. So you're wrong on several fronts here, Mj have carefully controlled his image for decades already.


More correctly, Bill Simmons thinks MJ chose to release this documentary to protect his legacy from the ignorance of LeBron fans.
I fully expect you to explain to me how MJ's insecurity is somehow better than Lebron's here.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Not as hyped about this like I originally was.

Sure its some kind of basketball for us fans, and I think it'll be well made. The behind the scenes footage should also be interesting. 6 hours on THAT season alone though? Would've been cool to see a FULL doc time lapsing the 90s.

[Da_Realist]

I fully expect you to explain to me how MJ's insecurity is somehow better than Lebron's here.

MJ has had enough of LeBron tugging on the cape. He can't play but he can allow a small snippet of his career to get out there that will go further than LeBron fans and some complicit media pointing to box scores and cliches to keep them in the same breath when MJ doesn't think he belongs there. Bill Simmons agrees with that and even got long time hater Colin Cowherd to stop the bullsh*t for two seconds and admit the truth: this video will end the debate.

LeBron feels the heat. That's why he wants to put his stuff out there, produced and directed by himself.

[SamuraiSWISH]

MJ has had enough of LeBron tugging on the cape. He can't play but he can allow a small snippet of his career to get out there that will go further than LeBron fans and some complicit media pointing to box scores and cliches to keep them in the same breath when MJ doesn't think he belongs there. Bill Simmons agrees with that and even got long time hater Colin Cowherd to stop the bullsh*t for two seconds and admit the truth: this video will end the debate.

LeBron feels the heat. That's why he wants to put his stuff out there, produced and directed by himself.
Bingo, if anyone is insecure ... it's Mr. Insecure himself Le3fer9.

He's the one who created shows like "The Shop" full of nothing but agreeable circle jerk yes men (the total anti thesis of real barber shop talk) and shut up and dribble shows.

Equated himself to Muhammed Ali as a social activist :oldlol:

Shows where he literally without self awareness and total narcissism called himself the GOAT, and had all his paid cronies agree with him on tape. It's pathetic.

MJ didn't control the doc. He wasn't willing to work with Simmons ... AT THE TIME. The NBA controls the footage. And release of said footage. Jordan is known to be distant, and not hogging of spotlight or agreeable to many interviews. Especially post retirement.

Jordan is probably fed up post 2016, with Bron's paid media talking heads attempting to tear down his legacy to prop up a more factual LOSER to not only be on his level, but better? At some point you have to put your foot down.

LeBron recognizes this, feels the heat and in his MASSIVE already established insecurity like the self promoting attention whore he is ... NOW wants to talk about his best games and release it? Right as the 30 for 30 Jordan Last Dance doc is finally coming out? A little odd wouldn't you say?

Do you know how egotistical that sounds? Jordan didn't MAKE his documentary or sit down and talk about his individual exploits or games. And it's about the team as a whole as well. Why would Le3fer9 want to make a mini doc on his own exploits when he still has the ability to play out his career?

Mike is done. Set in stone. He's talking about his LAST season 22 years later. Bron is still playing. The context is entirely different. Guy is an insecure clown.

[Turbo Slayer]

Lol at the two guys above me hating on LeBron.

Guys, you do realize that LeBron doesn't even know you? It's pointless chatter.

[Da_Realist]

Bingo, if anyone is insecure ... it's Mr. Insecure himself Le3fer9.

He's the one who created shows like "The Shop" full of nothing but agreeable circle jerk yes men (the total anti thesis of real barber shop talk) and shut up and dribble shows.

Equated himself to Muhammed Ali as a social activist :oldlol:

Shows where he literally without self awareness and total narcissism called himself the GOAT, and had all his paid cronies agree with him on tape. It's pathetic.

MJ didn't control the doc. He wasn't willing to work with Simmons ... AT THE TIME. The NBA controls the footage. And release of said footage. Jordan is known to be distant, and not hogging of spotlight or agreeable to many interviews. Especially post retirement.

Jordan is probably fed up post 2016, with Bron's paid media talking heads attempting to tear down his legacy to prop up a more factual LOSER to not only be on his level, but better? At some point you have to put your foot down.

LeBron recognizes this, feels the heat and in his MASSIVE already established insecurity like the self promoting attention whore he is ... NOW wants to talk about his best games and release it? Right as the 30 for 30 Jordan Last Dance doc is finally coming out? A little odd wouldn't you say?

Do you know how egotistical that sounds? Jordan didn't MAKE his documentary or sit down and talk about his individual exploits or games. And it's about the team as a whole as well. Why would Le3fer9 want to make a mini doc on his own exploits when he still has the ability to play out his career?

Mike is done. Set in stone. He's talking about his LAST season 22 years later. Bron is still playing. The context is entirely different. Guy is an insecure clown.

Damn Dude. Shut it down. LeBron is free to put out his own doc but no one will watch or talk about it outside of a few ISH fanboys. LeBron never captured the attention of America like that. He's Riddick Bowe. A great champion but was never truly must-see tv. MJ is Muhammad Ali -- someone that changed the way we view sports and set a standard of excellency.

[ArbitraryWater]

Damn Dude. Shut it down. LeBron is free to put out his own doc but no one will watch or talk about it outside of a few ISH fanboys. LeBron never captured the attention of America like that. He's Riddick Bowe. A great champion but was never truly must-see tv. MJ is Muhammad Ali -- someone that changed the way we view sports and set a standard of excellency.

love the smell of mighty insecurity

[Turbo Slayer]

Bingo, if anyone is insecure ... it's Mr. Insecure himself Le3fer9.

He's the one who created shows like "The Shop" full of nothing but agreeable circle jerk yes men (the total anti thesis of real barber shop talk) and shut up and dribble shows.

Equated himself to Muhammed Ali as a social activist :oldlol:

Shows where he literally without self awareness and total narcissism called himself the GOAT, and had all his paid cronies agree with him on tape. It's pathetic.

MJ didn't control the doc. He wasn't willing to work with Simmons ... AT THE TIME. The NBA controls the footage. And release of said footage. Jordan is known to be distant, and not hogging of spotlight or agreeable to many interviews. Especially post retirement.

Jordan is probably fed up post 2016, with Bron's paid media talking heads attempting to tear down his legacy to prop up a more factual LOSER to not only be on his level, but better? At some point you have to put your foot down.

LeBron recognizes this, feels the heat and in his MASSIVE already established insecurity like the self promoting attention whore he is ... NOW wants to talk about his best games and release it? Right as the 30 for 30 Jordan Last Dance doc is finally coming out? A little odd wouldn't you say?

Do you know how egotistical that sounds? Jordan didn't MAKE his documentary or sit down and talk about his individual exploits or games. And it's about the team as a whole as well. Why would Le3fer9 want to make a mini doc on his own exploits when he still has the ability to play out his career?
Mike is done. Set in stone. He's talking about his LAST season 22 years later. Bron is still playing. The context is entirely different. Guy is an insecure clown.


Equated himself to Muhammed Ali as a social activist :oldlol:

Where did LeBron compared himself to Muhammed Ali. I found this article and it contradicts what you just said. https://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/08/lebron-james-michael-jordan-muhammad-ali-comparison

Stop lying to deceive others. :facepalm


Jordan is probably fed up post 2016, with Bron's paid media talking heads attempting to tear down his legacy to prop up a more factual LOSER to not only be on his level, but better? At some point you have to put your foot down. Jordan is not fed up. I think that he is proud of LeBron and what he had done to the game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBXz2nfT-Fc

[Turbo Slayer]

Lol. No one wants to refute my post posted above. Oh well.

Here's a quick lesson for ya all: Never let a player cloud you for appreciating his greatness.

[sdot_thadon]

MJ has had enough of LeBron tugging on the cape. He can't play but he can allow a small snippet of his career to get out there that will go further than LeBron fans and some complicit media pointing to box scores and cliches to keep them in the same breath when MJ doesn't think he belongs there. Bill Simmons agrees with that and even got long time hater Colin Cowherd to stop the bullsh*t for two seconds and admit the truth: this video will end the debate.

LeBron feels the heat. That's why he wants to put his stuff out there, produced and directed by himself.
I absolutely love double standards. They're 2 insecure legends, it is what it is. MJ's insecurities have been broadcast ovet the years by the people behind the scenes, but who cares just pointing out to you that he's not someone above being insecure. In fact his insecurity will someday be seen as legendary as his play lol. And the notion that everyone is "tugging at his cape" is played out. A guy like Lebron has a pretty nice cape of his own I think. Mj didn't want anything to do with this thing 10 years ago. the footage has existed for what 30 odd years?

[sdot_thadon]

Lol. No one wants to refute my post posted above. Oh well.

Here's a quick lesson for ya all: Never let a player cloud you for appreciating his greatness.

They won't, stans are blind in general.

[Da_Realist]

Jordan is not fed up. I think that he is proud of LeBron and what he had done to the game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBXz2nfT-Fc

No MJ isn't going to snipe at LeBron in an ESPN interview. MJ respects LeBron as a player but I think he believes the guy is overhyped. There's been subtle snipes coming from LeBron for years but of course in front of cameras LeBron will go on about how MJ is his hero. LeBron is an expert at being passive-aggressive. MJ is responding but his response is also under the surface.

I realize looking beyond canned interviews of an NBA team owner being asked about a current legend the NBA needs to promote is a bit much for ISHers but know there are plenty of people that don't take the video you posted at 100% face value, including Bill Simmons who said he thinks MJ is tired of the hype surrounding LeBron and basically wants to shut it down with some reality. You can continue judging everything based on canned interviews. I understand.

[Da_Realist]

I absolutely love double standards. They're 2 insecure legends, it is what it is. MJ's insecurities have been broadcast ovet the years by the people behind the scenes, but who cares just pointing out to you that he's not someone above being insecure. In fact his insecurity will someday be seen as legendary as his play lol. And the notion that everyone is "tugging at his cape" is played out. A guy like Lebron has a pretty nice cape of his own I think. Mj didn't want anything to do with this thing 10 years ago. the footage has existed for what 30 odd years?

Well I already explained the difference in the mentalities. MJ wants more of the truth out there. LBJ wants to distract from it. You can say MJ's is insecurity. I call it pride. I know MJ is insecure about a lot...but I don't agree he's insecure about LeBron. I think his competitive pride is ready to stomp a hole in someone he considers inferior but he is too old to do it on the court so he is allowing his "ghost" to be resurrected in a sense in order for people who haven't watched him to see there is a difference between the two.

You can call that insecurity. I won't beat a dead horse.

And MJ isn't worried about LeBron's cape. It's the other way around.

[FKAri]

Damn Dude. Shut it down. LeBron is free to put out his own doc but no one will watch or talk about it outside of a few ISH fanboys. LeBron never captured the attention of America like that. He's Riddick Bowe. A great champion but was never truly must-see tv. MJ is Muhammad Ali -- someone that changed the way we view sports and set a standard of excellency.

MJ isn't like Muhammad Ali. MJ never stuck his neck out the way Ali did for anything. Ali was bigger than boxing moreso than MJ was bigger than basketball. That being said MJ was bigger than basketball in a way that no baller has been since. But then again basketball is bigger now than it was then so the bar is even higher. Only 2 guys in basketball history have been bigger than basketball: Wilt and MJ.

[Da_Realist]

MJ isn't like Muhammad Ali. MJ never stuck his neck out the way Ali did for anything. Ali was bigger than boxing moreso than MJ was bigger than basketball. That being said MJ was bigger than basketball in a way that no baller has been since. But then again basketball is bigger now than it was then so the bar is even higher. Only 2 guys in basketball history have been bigger than basketball: Wilt and MJ.

I wasn't speaking about social issues, obviously. I was speaking about his impact on the sport.

[StrongLurk]

I'm a big Lebron fan but I'm really burnt out on his "personality"...got burnt out on Kobe's personality too toward the end of his career as well...I guess that's what happens watching famous athletes closely for a long time.

[SamuraiSWISH]

I'm a big Lebron fan but I'm really burnt out on his "personality"...got burnt out on Kobe's personality too toward the end of his career as well...I guess that's what happens watching famous athletes closely for a long time.
It’s much worse in the self promoting direct to consumer social media age.

His piss poor and annoying character and need to attention whore is all the more relevant sadly as the years go by. Even at an older age, he’s actually become more annoying.

Self-aggrandizing and feeling more important than he actually is. He is the biggest narcissist I’ve ever seen in the sport. Yes, bigger than Jordan or Kobe. Those guys were cocky as **** when it came to competition and basketball. But not like how LeBron is entirely as a person. It’s disgusting.

[FireDavidKahn]

Jordan is one of the most insecure athletes in history. Imagine if he played in today's era:roll:

[FireDavidKahn]

This is tired. Some of you have been acting more gay on this forum every year. I'm not talking about you specifically because I don't remember anything you've posted but this forum is infested with D*ck this, Hung that, Tree trunk, Third leg, Madonna, etc... Many obviously think this is cute and adds to a basketball discussion. I think some of you really are fruity. Yet you bash this dude every other day for something he said a few years ago that I believe some LeBron fans started anyway. Who is more obsessed...someone that was a part of a joke a few years ago or those that discusses LeBron and Scottie's member every single day? Nothing but projection.

MJ was obsessed with dick size.

https://books.google.com/books?id=zilYagKLBM0C&pg=PA130&lpg=PA130&dq=Before+the+New+York+game+earlier+in+the+month,+ Jordan,+Pippen,+and+Grant,+all+of+whom+had+boys+un der+three+at+the+time,+had+debated+for+a+half+hour +about+whose+child+had+the+biggest+*****.+They+eve ntually+agreed+it+was+Pippen%E2%80%99&source=bl&ots=hVEtHRU3d8&sig=ACfU3U0-iSTaq50np_ClYC-ZZNhMEH3aaQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwievaj9qs3oAhWBB50JHWEMDNsQ6AEwAHoECAwQK Q#v=onepage&q=Before%20the%20New%20York%20game%20earlier%20in% 20the%20month%2C%20Jordan%2C%20Pippen%2C%20and%20G rant%2C%20all%20of%20whom%20had%20boys%20under%20t hree%20at%20the%20time%2C%20had%20debated%20for%20 a%20half%20hour%20about%20whose%20child%20had%20th e%20biggest%20penis.%20They%20eventually%20agreed% 20it%20was%20Pippen%E2%80%99&f=false


Before the New York game earlier in the month, Jordan, Pippen, and Grant, all of whom had boys under three at the time, had debated for a half hour about whose child had the biggest *****. They eventually agreed it was Pippen's

[Da_Realist]

MJ was obsessed with dick size.

https://books.google.com/books?id=zilYagKLBM0C&pg=PA130&lpg=PA130&dq=Before+the+New+York+game+earlier+in+the+month,+ Jordan,+Pippen,+and+Grant,+all+of+whom+had+boys+un der+three+at+the+time,+had+debated+for+a+half+hour +about+whose+child+had+the+biggest+*****.+They+eve ntually+agreed+it+was+Pippen%E2%80%99&source=bl&ots=hVEtHRU3d8&sig=ACfU3U0-iSTaq50np_ClYC-ZZNhMEH3aaQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwievaj9qs3oAhWBB50JHWEMDNsQ6AEwAHoECAwQK Q#v=onepage&q=Before%20the%20New%20York%20game%20earlier%20in% 20the%20month%2C%20Jordan%2C%20Pippen%2C%20and%20G rant%2C%20all%20of%20whom%20had%20boys%20under%20t hree%20at%20the%20time%2C%20had%20debated%20for%20 a%20half%20hour%20about%20whose%20child%20had%20th e%20biggest%20penis.%20They%20eventually%20agreed% 20it%20was%20Pippen%E2%80%99&f=false

Well then find him and talk to him about it. I'm not nor do I think it should be obsessed over in lieu of real basketball discussion.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Zoomers and teens already consider MJ almost universally the GOAT

this doc in quarantine and NBA likely being done for the season is gonna cement it even more

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0StI3lY0gvk

This my dude right here...ever since Memphis State.

[insidehoops]

ESPN's 10-part documentary on Michael Jordan, entitled "The Last Dance," part 1 is only 12 days away.

[insidehoops]

ESPN Michael Jordan documentary TV schedule, dates and times:


Sunday, April 19, ESPN

9 p.m. ET - Premiere of “The Last Dance” Episode 1

10 p.m. ET - Premiere of “The Last Dance” Episode 2


Sunday, April 26, ESPN

7 p.m. ET - Re-air of “The Last Dance” Episode 1

8 p.m. ET - Re-air of “The Last Dance” Episode 2

9 p.m. ET - Premiere of “The Last Dance” Episode 3

10 p.m. ET - Premiere of “The Last Dance” Episode 4


Sunday, May 3, ESPN

7 p.m. ET - Re-air of “The Last Dance” Episode 3

8 p.m. ET - Re-air of “The Last Dance” Episode 4

9 p.m. ET - Premiere of “The Last Dance” Episode 5

10 p.m. ET - Premiere of “The Last Dance” Episode 6


Sunday, May 10, ESPN

7 p.m. ET - Re-air of “The Last Dance” Episode 5

8 p.m. ET - Re-air of “The Last Dance” Episode 6

9 p.m. ET - Premiere of “The Last Dance” Episode 7

10 p.m. ET - Premiere of “The Last Dance” Episode 8


Sunday, May 17, ESPN

7 p.m. ET - Re-air of “The Last Dance” Episode 7

8 p.m. ET - Re-air of “The Last Dance” Episode 8

9 p.m. ET - Premiere of “The Last Dance” Episode 9

10 p.m. ET - Premiere of “The Last Dance” Episode 10


ESPN'S JORDAN DOC ON NETFLIX (outside of the U.S.)

Monday, April 20 - 12:01 a.m. PT - “The Last Dance” Episodes 1 and 2

Monday, April 27 - 12:01 a.m. PT - “The Last Dance” Episodes 3 and 4

Monday, May 4 - 12:01 a.m. PT - “The Last Dance” Episodes 5 and 6

Monday, May 11 - 12:01 a.m. PT - “The Last Dance” Episodes 7 and 8

Monday, May 18 - 12:01 a.m. PT - “The Last Dance” Episodes 9 and 10

[bison]

Here’s a review from the LA Times which says this documentary is more than TV show, “it’s a cultural event”

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2020-04-14/espn-netflix-michael-jordan-documentary-the-last-dance-chicago-bulls

Impression so far is that there’s a lot of 90s idealism and nostalgia here, but also lots of dissection and unseen clips from this era to satisfy any curious basketball amateur historian. IOW, something for everyone. Can’t wait

[34-24 Footwork]

The scenes where different artists and analysts say down was incredible. Super dope that Nas getting part. Very well put together trailer.

[nayte]

Jordan jumped in. He knows he is gonna come of as an asshole. Who care he did what he had to do

[SamuraiSWISH]

The scenes where different artists and analysts say down was incredible. Super dope that Nas getting part. Very well put together trailer.

Huh


Jordan jumped in. He knows he is gonna come of as an asshole. Who care he did what he had to do

Huh

[nayte]

Huh



Huh

He just fukken said it in an interview. But he didn't care.goat stuff

[SamuraiSWISH]

He just fukken said it in an interview. But he didn't care.goat stuff

Where’s the link to the interview?

[nayte]

[QUOnTE=SamuraiSWISH;13967451]Where’s the link

I will admit to being a dumbass and know not how to link.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/nba/michael-jordan-ready-for-people-to-view-him-as-the-bad-guy-after-the-last-dance/news-story/3b8fb2fd1b9509f2524c30e22048512b

Well shit did I do it right

[34-24 Footwork]

Where’s the link to the interview?

Lol. Chill bro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Peh9Yqf1GXc&t=20s

The part where different people who are being interviewed sit down is 2:40.

Kinda chilling. This documentary will be special.

[34-24 Footwork]

Really glad that Kobe got to be a part of this before his death.

[red1]

espn killing it lately with the highlights



98 second threepeat mj highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18CRYMHIHOI

[andgar923]

Any leaks available?

I know people have reviewed it and other Netflix films get leaked from time to time.

[RogueBorg]

Pippen scored 6 points (2-16) in game 5 and 8 points (4-7) in game 6 of the 1998 NBA Finals.

[red1]

Pippen scored 6 points (2-16) in game 5 and 8 points (4-7) in game 6 of the 1998 NBA Finals.

well, then I guess its a good thing that is what the other team looked like - FYI this is whats known as a weak team here:


40 Shandon Anderson SG 6-6 208 December 31, 1973 us 1 Georgia
55 Antoine Carr PF 6-9 225 July 23, 1961 us 13 Wichita State
45 William Cunningham C 6-11 250 March 25, 1974 us R Temple
10 Howard Eisley PG 6-2 177 December 4, 1972 us 3 Boston College
44 Greg Foster C 6-11 240 October 3, 1968 us 7 UCLA, Texas-El Paso
14 Jeff Hornacek SG 6-3 190 May 3, 1963 us 11 Iowa State
25 Troy Hudson PG 6-1 170 March 13, 1976 us R Missouri, Southern Illinois
31 Adam Keefe C 6-9 230 February 22, 1970 us 5 Stanford
32 Karl Malone PF 6-9 250 July 24, 1963 us 12 Louisiana Tech
34 Chris Morris SF 6-8 210 January 20, 1966 us 9 Auburn
00 Greg Ostertag C 7-2 280 March 6, 1973 us 2 Kansas
3 Bryon Russell SF 6-7 225 December 31, 1970 us 4 Cal State Long Beach
12 John Stockton PG 6-1 170 March 26, 1962 us 13 Gonzaga
11 Jacque Vaughn PG 6-1 190 February 11, 1975 us R Kansas






FYI these guys would get absolutely smoked by the 2013 spurs, another certified weak team.

[RogueBorg]

well, then I guess its a good thing that is what the other team looked like - FYI this is whats known as a weak team here:








FYI these guys would get absolutely smoked by the 2013 spurs, another certified weak team.

They couldn't have been that bad, they did sweep Shaq and the 61-21 Los Angeles Lakers.

[red1]

They couldn't have been that bad, they did sweep Shaq and the 61-21 Los Angeles Lakers.

I'm just trolling bro. according some IQ-challenged posters here - if you dont win a ring then you are trash.


and if you DO make the finals twice and don't win - my god you'd be better off not having ever played at all.


ie malone and stockton are trash bros.


FYI lowry won a ring as the 2nd best player so lowry> stockton.


lowry is 1/1 in the finals.

[sportjames23]

10 hour documentary?

GOAT content incoming. Pretty sure it'll be on Netflix too.

And 4K :bowdown:

[red1]

No MJ isn't going to snipe at LeBron in an ESPN interview. MJ respects LeBron as a player but I think he believes the guy is overhyped. There's been subtle snipes coming from LeBron for years but of course in front of cameras LeBron will go on about how MJ is his hero. LeBron is an expert at being passive-aggressive. MJ is responding but his response is also under the surface.

I realize looking beyond canned interviews of an NBA team owner being asked about a current legend the NBA needs to promote is a bit much for ISHers but know there are plenty of people that don't take the video you posted at 100% face value, including Bill Simmons who said he thinks MJ is tired of the hype surrounding LeBron and basically wants to shut it down with some reality. You can continue judging everything based on canned interviews. I understand.

I dont think so. mj has given props. I think he knows on some level that he hasnt gone up against a player on that level during his career. Im not even trolling.

[insidehoops]

Finally. The doc tips off this Sunday.

[DoctorP]

This is a long ass documentary. Im ready

perfect timing with the nba cancelled

[AlternativeAcc.]

This is a long ass documentary. Im ready

perfect timing with the nba cancelled

Yeah, 7 episodes

Sad Joe got 22 years, he was the most innocent of the bunch and a charming dude

[DoctorP]

espn killing it lately with the highlights



98 second threepeat mj highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18CRYMHIHOI

that shot at 2:00 is crazy

reminds me of wade

and that fingerroll at 3:25 s woah

[FireDavidKahn]

Pippen scored 6 points (2-16) in game 5 and 8 points (4-7) in game 6 of the 1998 NBA Finals.

Game 5: 11 rebounds, 11 assists, 3 steals 1 block. -2 (Jordan -4)
Game 6: +16 (highest)

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYXiYo-zFME

[DoctorP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYXiYo-zFME
:applause:

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5CXfhplsCs

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUTIWuyXgp4

[Turbo Slayer]

MJ is the GOAT!!!

:bowdown::bowdown:

[LostCause]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUTIWuyXgp4

Man this looks like a great watch

[andgar923]

Man this looks like a great watch
Canadian link?

[LostCause]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYXiYo-zFME


There’s a lot of ass-kissing there (Bucher explaining away Jordan hitting Kerr for example). Granted, as someone who played sports in high school I know fights aren’t uncommon in practices or elsewhere, just because emotions run high in competition especially when you’re a team and you feel someone isn’t pulling their weight. However cooler heads should prevail and things like that shouldn’t happen, regardless that they do

Marcellus made a great point though that the video will just provide confirmation bias. Whatever you believe going in, it’ll just confirm your beliefs. You’ll see the Jordan haters/Bron stans making threads about how mean he was, how LeBron would never do or say this or that, how he’s a bad leader etc. Similarly you’ll see Jordan stans using that same information to say he’s a great leader, how LeBron wouldn’t do it cuz he’s passive-aggressive, how it led to winning and how it’s just being competitive. Same information, different views

Regardless how you feel about it though it’ll be an unprecedented look into the end of a sports dynasty. We probably won’t ever get to see something as in-depth as this again that’s as raw and revealing.

[Da_Realist]

There’s a lot of ass-kissing there (Bucher explaining away Jordan hitting Kerr for example). Granted, as someone who played sports in high school I know fights aren’t uncommon in practices or elsewhere, just because emotions run high in competition especially when you’re a team and you feel someone isn’t pulling their weight. However cooler heads should prevail and things like that shouldn’t happen, regardless that they do

Marcellus made a great point though that the video will just provide confirmation bias. Whatever you believe going in, it’ll just confirm your beliefs. You’ll see the Jordan haters/Bron stans making threads about how mean he was, how LeBron would never do or say this or that, how he’s a bad leader etc. Similarly you’ll see Jordan stans using that same information to say he’s a great leader, how LeBron wouldn’t do it cuz he’s passive-aggressive, how it led to winning and how it’s just being competitive. Same information, different views

Regardless how you feel about it though it’ll be an unprecedented look into the end of a sports dynasty. We probably won’t ever get to see something as in-depth as this again that’s as raw and revealing.

True. Though the Steve Kerr thing is blown out of proportion. Fights happened all the time. Jerry Stackhouse fought teammates everywhere he played (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QtogRhurgM). Isiah Thomas broke his hand two-piecing Bill Laimbeer (https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-11-17-sp-57887-story.html). MJ knocked up Will Perdue (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1476335-11-most-bizarre-off-court-confrontations-in-nba-history).

Nobody even talks about Arenas and Crittenton drawing guns on each other over a gambling debt (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QtogRhurgM&t=1m32s).

This is one of those things that draws more interest with casual fans but insiders know it happens all the time. For nine months of the year these guys are spending more time with each other than they are with their families. And in a hyper-competitive environment. I read some of those Showtime books with Magic intentionally throwing passes at a teammate's face because he wasn't paying attention or working hard enough. The inside look at practices especially for the elite teams is not for fhe fan that doesn't want to know how the sausage is made.

Possible exception might be the Spurs but then again Tony Parker was probably banging a teammates wife and should have gotten his ass whipped if even if sexting was all he did.

[guy]

I dont think so. mj has given props. I think he knows on some level that he hasnt gone up against a player on that level during his career. Im not even trolling.

Based on what? He's gone up against Bird, Magic, and Shaq in the playoffs. Him giving props is cause Lebron's an all-time great player. Don't see anything more to it.

[FKAri]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5CXfhplsCs

If MJ really will be speaking candidly about his career then it will be the most insightful part of this. I'm more interested in that then all these other people talking about MJ/Bulls. My biggest concern about this doc is that it won't have much new stuff and will instead just be a refresher course for the younger generation.

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlnXWhcJcQc

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtKhNuZGZrA

[red1]

the 90's was such a pure era. it was before we found out that mj is a scumbag. the family friendly and wholesome era is only being brought back now for the first time with taco tuesday and other wholesome nba activities.


I think I'm just going to choose to remember mj the way I saw him in the 90's as an inspiration and as a fictional character, not as the guy who cheats grannies in card games. space jam will always be my shit.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71FH2-JJGwL._AC_SX425_.jpg
https://www.snupps.com/api/2.10/users/1349048/items/11227430/views/11195051-1.412.jpg

[Da_Realist]

the 90's was such a pure era. it was before we found out that mj is a scumbag. the family friendly and wholesome era is only being brought back now for the first time with taco tuesday and other wholesome nba activities.


I think I'm just going to choose to remember mj the way I saw him in the 90's as an inspiration and as a fictional character, not as the guy who cheats grannies in card games. space jam will always be my shit.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71FH2-JJGwL._AC_SX425_.jpg
https://www.snupps.com/api/2.10/users/1349048/items/11227430/views/11195051-1.412.jpg

I'm shocked you were alive when Space Jam came out.

[red1]

Based on what? He's gone up against Bird, Magic, and Shaq in the playoffs. Him giving props is cause Lebron's an all-time great player. Don't see anything more to it.

its just my opinion. I think he knows lbj is better than those guys. most of the guys from that era give me that impression. and so does 3ball. which is why he goes to such lengths to make such ridiculous claims.

[red1]

I'm shocked you were alive when Space Jam came out.
well there you go :confusedshrug:

[red1]

space jam 2020 edition kd betrays the human race to join the aliens but he never gets the credit he wants because everyone dies from coronavirus. curry retires with zero finals MVPs.

[ClipperRevival]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlnXWhcJcQc

Always love listening to BJ talk. He is clearly very smart and articulate. Wonder why he doesn't have a TV gig. Guys like Nick Wright/Cowherd have jobs talking sports and BJ doesn't . :yaohappy:

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc5BtguVDgI

Craig Hodges interviewed by Rob Parker and Chris Broussard

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScQtIGcg93A

I gotta admit... I knew Ahmad Rashad played in the NFL but I had no idea he was a 4-time Pro Bowler

[SamuraiSWISH]

Always love listening to BJ talk. He is clearly very smart and articulate. Wonder why he doesn't have a TV gig. Guys like Nick Wright/Cowherd have jobs talking sports and BJ doesn't . :yaohappy:
Always thought that too ... and has much better crossover appeal than some of the dudes they’ve had on tv over the recent years. The clown Ryan Hollins speaking on NBA related is absolutely cringe. And he didn’t do jack all in the league itself to be commenting on anything that would’ve required more PT to even be judging others on.

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTFtY6KgS58

[ArbitraryWater]

MJ afraid he'll be viewed as douchebag.

Could be a backfire doc, sounds like.

Jim & Andy revealed Jim Carrey to be an absolute idiot/asshole.

[fourkicks44]

MJ afraid he'll be viewed as douchebag.

Could be a backfire doc, sounds like.

Jim & Andy revealed Jim Carrey to be an absolute idiot/asshole.

I'm certain MJ knows he is a douchebag and knows the documentary will prove to the world he is a douchebag.

That's reality, Arbby....

And it shouldn't matter what people think cause he won..

And that's all that matters right?













Let's be serious, he could f#ck panglions for all we know.


Who gives a shit? All that matters to me is what happened on court.

You feel me, Arbby?

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN6_dpBT8gs

[ArbitraryWater]

I'm certain MJ knows he is a douchebag and knows the documentary will prove to the world he is a douchebag.

That's reality, Arbby....

And it shouldn't matter what people think cause he won..

And that's all that matters right?













Let's be serious, he could f#ck panglions for all we know.


Who gives a shit? All that matters to me is what happened on court.

You feel me, Arbby?


being a douchebag has to do with what happens on court though, as its bad leadership.

[andgar923]

Any links?

Australia and others should’ve seen it by now, no?

[LAL]

being a douchebag has to do with what happens on court though, as its bad leadership.

You guys are so tiresome

[Drygon]

Looks like MJ decided to release 'The Last Dance' after noticing the producer made AI's doc.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EV5xHwVUYAAXnL9?format=jpg&name=small

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29044827/an-all-access-michael-jordan-documentary-how-last-dance-was-made-possible

https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/1251566851869380608

[Drygon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyFNnPUQhxw

[FireDavidKahn]

Looks like MJ decided to release 'The Last Dance' after noticing the producer made AI's doc.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EV5xHwVUYAAXnL9?format=jpg&name=small

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29044827/an-all-access-michael-jordan-documentary-how-last-dance-was-made-possible

https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/1251566851869380608

Damn. Final nail in the coffin for Jordan being the GOAT.

[1987_Lakers]

Any links?

Australia and others should’ve seen it by now, no?
Do you have Netflix? It's gonna be on there after it airs on ESPN, at least in the USA.

[Turbo Slayer]

I am excited! :rockon:

[andgar923]

Do you have Netflix? It's gonna be on there after it airs on ESPN, at least in the USA.
I’m in Canada so I gotta wait until tomorrow

[Da_Realist]

Looks like MJ decided to release 'The Last Dance' after noticing the producer made AI's doc.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EV5xHwVUYAAXnL9?format=jpg&name=small

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29044827/an-all-access-michael-jordan-documentary-how-last-dance-was-made-possible

https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/1251566851869380608

Not surprising. AI was a competitor. Win, lose or draw, competitors are the only ones MJ respects.

[Poetry]

"Director Jason Hehir had access to approximately 10,000 hours of footage and ended up reducing it to ten 60-minutes episodes."

They need to give consumers access to the NBA archives already.

[Drygon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDkSU8f0Hhw

[Turbo Slayer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FwgVZdCpGk

WHAT?!?!

GOD MODE

:bowdown: :biggums:

Man I wish I was born in the 90s...

[Turbo Slayer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4MV6BxRgqg

HANG TIME!!! :bowdown:

[insidehoops]

Episodes 1 and 2 TONIGHT at 9 p.m. ET.

Can't wait.

[Axe]

I would be watching this in the future, probably.

[FromDowntown]

Second best to ever do it. MJ :bowdown:

[DoctorP]

T- 30 minutes

[brownmamba00]

Someone got a link for this? Its about to start

[andgar923]

:(

I can't watch it live.

[insidehoops]

Here we go!

[insidehoops]

Episode 1 and 2 discussion starts NOW!

[Nilocon165]

Forgot Paxson bailed him out

[insidehoops]

Watching Dennis Rodman rebound was as much fun as watching other players score.

[FireDavidKahn]

Scottie "treen trunk" Pippen = GOAT second option:applause:

Imagine if LeBron had the GOAT second option throughout his career.

[DoctorP]

pdiddy and mase huh

jordan w nice words for ownership

[DoctorP]

jerry krause ended up being nothing but hanging on the coattails of jordan

[STATUTORY]

kind ****ed up they going so hard on krause when krause iisnt around to defend himself

[insidehoops]

Haha, poor Jerry Krause, getting mocked like this. (And R.I.P to Krause, who sadly passed away in March of 2017.)

[FireDavidKahn]

LOL.

So it was Jordan that incessantly attacked Krause

[DoctorP]

they are hammering home the point that Krause was wrong.

[FireDavidKahn]

they are hammering home the point that Krause was wrong.

What?

They ;literally and specifically said that Krause was good at his job.

[brownmamba00]

https://robinhood.stream/?v=espn

[DoctorP]

What?

They ;literally and specifically said that Krause was good at his job.

not wrong at his job, wrong at how he viewed the expendability of his pieces

[DoctorP]

god commercials are annoying. why cant this be on netflix

[insidehoops]

Jordan rocking the beret in Paris.

[Docs Orders]

that poor French kid who hooked up MJ's audio mic asked him for an autograph and Jordan just gave him the stink eye and scuffed him off


what a pos

[DoctorP]

a lot of new footage ive never seen

[insidehoops]

Haha James Worthy: "I was better than he was... for around two weeks."

[DoctorP]

intricacies of "the shot"

[insidehoops]

Hate when I dunk and bump my head on the backboard.

[KissMySwag]

I missed the first 30 min. :facepalm

[Nilocon165]

^^Haven’t missed much

[DoctorP]

more annoying commercials, wheres that mute

[DoctorP]

oh, spain bronzed in 84? ok

[insidehoops]

Haha, love Jordan's reaction to that "Bulls traveling cocaine circus" question.

[DoctorP]

Haha, love Jordan's reaction to that "Bulls traveling cocaine circus" question.


ooh now its getting interesting

[DoctorP]

Moncrief

[FireDavidKahn]

Did I read that wrong?

Said MJ and Oscar were the only two to average 20/5/5 in their rookies seasons. Tyreke Evans did as well.

[BigShotBob]

Watching Jordan doesn't make you apreciate any other all time great because he was so heads and shoulders above the rest. I actually had to stop watching his highlights because of this after being a long time MJ hater.

[DoctorP]

Watching Jordan doesn't make you apreciate any other all time great because he was so heads and shoulders above the rest. I actually had to stop watching his highlights because of this after being a long time MJ hater.

my girl is the same way with any Donald Trump footage. she cant watch more than a minute without being disgusted.

[DoctorP]

Episode 1 is pretty weak so far. Basically spent most of the episode sucking off MJ.

indeed. they are establishing "his rise"

[Stanley Kobrick]

Episode 1 is pretty weak so far. Basically spent most of the episode sucking off MJ.
yeah I thought it was about the Bulls, it's just another Michael documentary

[insidehoops]

Had to be wild for international basketball fans, getting a possible one-in-a-lifetime chance to see MJ's Bulls, not knowing if they'll ever return to that country.

[1987_Lakers]

Why did my post get deleted? We in communist China now? It was an honest opinion.

[DoctorP]

Why did my post get deleted? We in communist China now? It was an honest opinion.

jeff, bro, relax wtf u so triggered

[Stanley Kobrick]

Yes, congrats, you have successfully figured out that this is a documentary about Michael Jordan.
Being a bulls fan I just wish they would have incorporated more of the team and franchise. they even went as far as mocking the team as perennial losers prior to Michael but the Bulls were still losers for a few years after they drafted him

[BigShotBob]

Why did my post get deleted? We in communist China now? It was an honest opinion.

They're setting the stage for the younger generation. Literally got a phone call from one of my daughters that said that she never saw any of the rookie MJ footage and she didn't know how great he was.

Don't take the information you know for granted.

[DoctorP]

oh yea Stern died

[Nilocon165]

They gotta lower the rims :roll:

What a ****ing douche

[insidehoops]

Oh man, that Bulls intro theme song was so legendary.

[DoctorP]

id love to see a doc about drug use in the league. there is probably zero footage available

[andgar923]

any link?

[insidehoops]

Episode 1 over. It mostly just set the stage for the rest of the doc.

Now episode 2 starting.

[DoctorP]

Oh man, that Bulls intro theme song was so legendary.

was it any different than the one on the alan parsons album? was it extended or anything?

[DoctorP]

pippen saying he thinks he is one of the best players of all time w a straight face :lol

no lack of confidence

[insidehoops]

was it any different than the one on the alan parsons album? was it extended or anything?

Man, good question. No idea. Will check that out later or tomorrow and see.

[Stanley Kobrick]

They're setting the stage for the younger generation. Literally got a phone call from one of my daughters that said that she never saw any of the rookie MJ footage and she didn't know how great he was.

Don't take the information you know for granted.
same, just got a text from my grandson saying how he never knew how incredibly athletic highschool Michael was despite being cut from his JV team. btw i'm not a MJ fan, infact hated him growing up but i must pay respects were respects are due

[1987_Lakers]

Ok, now we can actually focus on the '98 season.

[DoctorP]

Man, good question. No idea. Will check that out later or tomorrow and see.

:rockon:

[insidehoops]

Scottie Pippen was so nice with it.

[DoctorP]

no pip, no chip

[insidehoops]

Pippen at Central Arkansas. Wonder how many NBA players went to that college.

[DoctorP]

Pip does remind me a lot of Dr. J. for sure

[insidehoops]

"The Seattle Supersonics select.. Scott Pippen, of Central Arkansas." - David Stern

[Stanley Kobrick]

yes Scottie, so good

[insidehoops]

Charles Oakley, the MVP of slapping people

[Stanley Kobrick]

Charles Oakley, the MVP of slapping people
https://rs304.pbsrc.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/Charles%20Oakley/charlesoakleyandscottiepipp.gif?w=280&h=210&fit=crop

[LoneyROY7]

7 years 18 million? What a trash contract.

[DoctorP]

they didnt really get into the pippen career arc

[LoneyROY7]

4-4 without Pipp?

No Pipp no chip.

[Wally450]

3ball melting down in real life right now lol.

[Docs Orders]

wow, Scottie so underpaid yet still financially providing for neighbors and his commmunity.


meanwhile Michael ripping him off on the golf course and taking advantage of him

[DoctorP]

yeah in 98 the Bulls did not have the talent or youth to withstand Pip being out, not shocking. they were running on fumes as it is

[BigShotBob]

Now people know the truth that Pippen wanted to sabotage the Bulls, twice, the other time in 1995 during the playoffs when he forcibly sat out and whined that Phil didn't want him to take the last shot.

[insidehoops]

Phil Jackson defending Pippen's decision to intentionally delay surgery.

Publicly, at least.

[andgar923]

Still no download link?

[LoneyROY7]

Phil Jack was really the GOAT.

[Stanley Kobrick]

Now people know the truth that Pippen wanted to sabotage the Bulls, twice, the other time in 1995 during the playoffs when he forcibly sat out and whined that Phil didn't want him to take the last shot.
don't forget to mention you're totally not a Michael fan and hated him growing up. it's important you remind people of that

[LoneyROY7]

They could barely beat the Clipps without Pipp.

Jesus. :oldlol::oldlol:

[insidehoops]

Still no download link?

If you live overseas and have Netflix, it'll be on non-USA Netflix at like 3:01am ET tonight.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Jordan's competitive drive on full display right there.