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Dray n Klay
12-27-2019, 06:38 PM
What is the official excuse for each team?


Were those teams considered stacked or not, and if not why were all those teams either the 1st seed or made the Finals a year ago?

Smoke117
12-27-2019, 06:40 PM
Because Chris Bosh missed 38 games and Dwyane Wade 20. They were obviously a playoff team if healthy, idiot.

Dray n Klay
12-27-2019, 06:41 PM
Because Chris Bosh missed 38 games and Dwyane Wade 20. They were obviously a playoff team if healthy, idiot.

So why were their record below .500 even in the games Wade and Bosh played dipshit?

Heat also had Dragic and Whiteside, 2 additional all stars, heck they were more stacked in 2015 than in 2014 :roll:


4 all-stars weren’t enough to make the playoffs?

SouBeachTalents
12-27-2019, 06:45 PM
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coin24
12-27-2019, 06:46 PM
Why doesn't 2019 OP wheel himself outside for a bit

RealSkipBayless
12-27-2019, 06:54 PM
Were those teams considered stacked or not, and if not why were all those teams either the 1st seed or made the Finals a year ago?
You know DnK.. I wish people would make up their minds. We really need to figure this out.

LostCause
12-27-2019, 06:55 PM
So why were their record below .500 even in the games Wade and Bosh played dipshit?

Heat also had Dragic and Whiteside, 2 additional all stars, heck they were more stacked in 2015 than in 2014 :roll:


4 all-stars weren’t enough to make the playoffs?

The Lakers win % wasn't high enough to make the playoffs last year even if you ONLY count the games LeBron played in

Why was that? Just because players play doesn't mean they're playing 100%. No way a LeBron stan doesn't understand this

Also Dragic/Whiteside weren't there the whole year either

Why'd they make it to the 2nd round the very next season?

Lol@ Whiteside being an All-Star btw

3ball
12-27-2019, 07:31 PM
What is the official excuse for each team?


Were those teams considered stacked or not, and if not why were all those teams either the 1st seed or made the Finals a year ago?
The 2011 Cavs lost half their team - Mo/Shaq/Zydrunas/Varejao/Delonte averaged 52 ppg, so their loss was more impactful than Lebron's 30 ppg

The 2015 Heat missed the playoffs by 1/2 game because Wade/Bosh missed 40 games

The 2019 Cavs missed the playoffs because they lost Kyrie and Lebron in back-to-back seasons, and Love was injured/past his prime.

however, any team that uses 1 main ball-dominator will fall off without that ball-dominator, aka nash and cp3 teams in 12' and 13'... but despite having great on-off impact, these ball-dominators don't add to championship odds the most because their style falls short of a championship CEILING.. the players that add to championship odds the most are the ones who can get elite stats while still giving the team a championship ceiling (the ability to have great ball movement and/or a system)

Dray n Klay
12-27-2019, 07:33 PM
The 2011 Cavs lost half their team - Mo/Shaq/Zydrunas/Varejao/Delonte averaged 52 ppg, so their loss was more impactful than Lebron's 30 ppg

The 2015 Heat missed the playoffs by 1/2 game because Wade/Bosh missed 40 games

The 2019 Cavs missed the playoffs because they lost Kyrie and Lebron in back-to-back seasons, and Love was injured/past his prime.

however, any team that uses 1 main ball-dominator will fall off without that ball-dominator, aka nash and cp3 teams in 12' and 13'... but despite having great on-off impact, these ball-dominators don't add to championship odds the most because their style falls short of a championship CEILING

Why did the 1994 Bulls win 55 games?

3ball
12-27-2019, 07:37 PM
Why did the 1994 Bulls win 55 games?
Any team that doesn't use the ball-dominator approach (moves the ball) and played together a lot/developed a system over several years can be decent without the star, aka this year's Raptors, Duncan's Spurs, Curry's Warriors, Jordan's Bulls.. plus the bulls were half-assing the 93' regular season but going all-out in 1994

The 94' Bulls had very little on-paper talent, but they had a system that provided the best spacing possible when a lot of threes aren't taken... with MJ or mini-MJ, this system won all the way through 2010, until the league figured out how to space the floor better by just shooting a ton of threes