If Harden win a ring what it will do for his legacy?

[Turbo Slayer]

IMO, it will validate his stats. I will consider him to be one of the greatest scorers of all-time. :applause:

Winning a ring would boost his legacy.

['Toine=MVP]

It would help, yes.

[HylianNightmare]

It would make up for the bed he shit last year

[coin24]

IMO, it will validate his stats. I will consider him to be one of the greatest scorers of all-time. :applause:

Winning a ring would boost his legacy.


Would make him the real king James, didn't collude or ring chase

[TMac&Luther]

Nothing.. people will still crap on him,

[TMac&Luther]

If anyone is old enough to remember.. He does look like he's about to go "Dream Shake" on the league.. except at the perimeter. Hakeem was a all time great player who played against historic teams, finally he lost it and went H.A.M. I Could see Harden doing this.. if only Westbrook had a jump shot.

[BigTicket]

He's one of the greatest scorers regardless, you don't need rings for that, you need scoring titles, and he's about to get his 3rd consecutive scoring title. And he's on track to join the 30k club, which is another way to prove yourself is an all-time great scorer.

Winning a title would move him from being a great scorer to being a great player.

[SouBeachTalents]

That's some strong analysis OP

[Patrick Chewing]

While it will boost his overall reputation and greatness, Harden lacks the leadership skills to lead a team to that plateau.

[DMAVS41]

He's one of the greatest scorers regardless, you don't need rings for that, you need scoring titles, and he's about to get his 3rd consecutive scoring title. And he's on track to join the 30k club, which is another way to prove yourself is an all-time great scorer.

Winning a title would move him from being a great scorer to being a great player.

He's already a great player by any reasonable definition.

Winning a ring with his current supporting cast against this kind of competition...would vault him into top 25 of all-time consideration.

[tanibanana]

Definitely will boost a lot.. right now, he is on his way as the greatest SG not to win a Ring (arguably at 5th going 4th GOAT-SG by end of his career).

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

He's already a great player by any reasonable definition.

Winning a ring with his current supporting cast against this kind of competition...would vault him into top 25 of all-time consideration.

"with his current supporting cast"
:roll: :roll:

Westbrick, EG, Tucker, House, Capela, McLemore, Rivers, Clark, Hartenstein is one of the best supporting casts in the league

[Bronbron23]

IMO, it will validate his stats. I will consider him to be one of the greatest scorers of all-time. :applause:

Winning a ring would boost his legacy.
Im not a fan of hardens game but if he wins a chip it would definitely give him some validation. I dont see it happening though. The playoffs are much more physical brand of basketball. The refs let alot more go so. As long as this tradition continues harden will always struggle some in the post season because hes not gonna get all those ridiculous fouls and hes gonna have a harder time scoring because defenders are aloud to actually play defence.

[Andrei89]

It will definitely boost his legacy.

One of the greatest scorers of all time with a ring is not something to be overlooked.

Think of Melo with a ring. No matter how much trash people talk about Melo if he won a ring with any team as the main 1st option he would be much more respected.

[Spurs m8]

Would maybe gain an ounce of respect for him.

Thankfully it will never happen

[DMAVS41]

"with his current supporting cast"
:roll: :roll:

Westbrick, EG, Tucker, House, Capela, McLemore, Rivers, Clark, Hartenstein is one of the best supporting casts in the league

Yes, one of the best...

Going up against Lebron/Davis/Leonard/Giannis...all with teams around them either better or as good.

If he outplays them and wins?

It would be a very impressive ring.

Do you actually disagree or are you just on another one of your idiotic benders?

[SouBeachTalents]

Yes, one of the best...

Going up against Lebron/Davis/Leonard/Giannis...all with teams around them either better or as good.

If he outplays them and wins?

It would be a very impressive ring.

Do you actually disagree or are you just on another one of your idiotic benders?
That's the same guy who said nobody would win a title replacing Durant on the Warriors :lol

[Indian guy]

It will do everything for his legacy. He's the most unstoppable RS scorer since MJ and everybody reacts to it with a collective yawn. And that's because of his playoff failures. Winning a ring validates his RS dominance and it will become OK to marvel at his ridiculous offensive exploits.

['Toine=MVP]

It will do everything for his legacy. He's the most unstoppable RS scorer since MJ and everybody reacts to it with a collective yawn. And that's because of his playoff failures. Winning a ring validates his RS dominance and it will become OK to marvel at his ridiculous offensive exploits.

Even his biggest haters have to be amazed to some degree at what he's doing.

I think the problem facing him is somewhat similar to the one LeBron faces (more extreme though). And that is that this is an era designed to maximize individual stats, especially from top players. LeBron has other issues working against him, as does King James.

So Steph is still riding out his honeymoon phase because he was kind of the first player to be given this amount of free reign to shoot 3s. He's awesome at it, no doubt, but we are seeing more and more incredible 3 point shooting feats now. Are the players naturally better shooters than players from other decades? Probably not, or at least not by as large a margin as it seems at first glance. The 3 wasn't encouraged at all in the 80s and didn't exist before that. In the 90s, it was considered a specialist activity and we didn't see anyone with the kind of high volume we see now. I guess Antoine Walker in the 00s might be the guy that foreshadowed this era even though he wasn't even good at shooting 3s. Besides simply encouraging and game planning around the 3, defenses are way more limited by rule/enforcement than in the past. Players just have a lot of space to work with now. And King James is a beneficiary of that. He deserves credit for maxing this out in a way really no one else is doing and his overall offensive game is better than Steph's at least. But he's maxing it out in part because he was designed to play in this NBA with these rules and enforcements and coaching methods.

On top of all that, the guy just refuses to play defense.

This kind of criticism of King James is going to last even if he wins rings, just as LeBron's criticism will last even if he wins 3 more rings. But the extra rings will help both push aside the loser reps they have (King James's loser rep is worse than LeBron's loser rep of course).

[Doomsday Dallas]

Would maybe gain an ounce of respect for him.

Thankfully it will never happen


yea, I don't think it's gonna happen for Harden either.

Rockets could make some noise in the playoffs (for the next few years), but don't see Harden ever getting a ring.

[DMAVS41]

Even his biggest haters have to be amazed to some degree at what he's doing.

I think the problem facing him is somewhat similar to the one LeBron faces (more extreme though). And that is that this is an era designed to maximize individual stats, especially from top players. LeBron has other issues working against him, as does King James.

So Steph is still riding out his honeymoon phase because he was kind of the first player to be given this amount of free reign to shoot 3s. He's awesome at it, no doubt, but we are seeing more and more incredible 3 point shooting feats now. Are the players naturally better shooters than players from other decades? Probably not, or at least not by as large a margin as it seems at first glance. The 3 wasn't encouraged at all in the 80s and didn't exist before that. In the 90s, it was considered a specialist activity and we didn't see anyone with the kind of high volume we see now. I guess Antoine Walker in the 00s might be the guy that foreshadowed this era even though he wasn't even good at shooting 3s. Besides simply encouraging and game planning around the 3, defenses are way more limited by rule/enforcement than in the past. Players just have a lot of space to work with now. And King James is a beneficiary of that. He deserves credit for maxing this out in a way really no one else is doing and his overall offensive game is better than Steph's at least. But he's maxing it out in part because he was designed to play in this NBA with these rules and enforcements and coaching methods.

On top of all that, the guy just refuses to play defense.

This kind of criticism of King James is going to last even if he wins rings, just as LeBron's criticism will last even if he wins 3 more rings. But the extra rings will help both push aside the loser reps they have (King James's loser rep is worse than LeBron's loser rep of course).

He's been playing better defense since the season or two where it was just a joke.

Strip the "stats" though...he's a great offensive player that is leading teams to a ton of wins.

I'm not even as high on Harden as it may seem, but I don't understand these arguments.

Rocket Win Totals Under Harden;

13 - 45
14 - 54
15 - 56
16 - 41
17 - 55
18 - 65
19 - 53

And they are going to win over 50 again.

I mean...at some point people just have to admit he's a great player with a chance to go down as one of the 30 or so best players ever if he puts together a special playoff run.

[imdaman99]

Lol rings only enhance anyone's legacy. Here's hoping Harden and Russ get it done this year. 2 of the 3-4 most deserving that have yet to win in the current NBA :confusedshrug:

[warriorfan]

yea, I don't think it's gonna happen for Harden either.

Rockets could make some noise in the playoffs (for the next few years), but don't see Harden ever getting a ring.

2011!

[Bronbron23]

Lol rings only enhance anyone's legacy. Here's hoping Harden and Russ get it done this year. 2 of the 3-4 most deserving that have yet to win in the current NBA :confusedshrug:
Id say harden is deserving of one lately. Hes actually playing some defence now. He never used to at all. If your not willing to play defence and do what it takes to win then your not deserving of a ring.

Westbrook has always played all out on both ends. With him it was always his decision making. He had one of the best scorers ever on his team in kd but at times he would act like he was the fist option. He seems alot less selfish now so yeah he definitely deserves one.

[3ball]

IMO, it will validate his stats. I will consider him to be one of the greatest scorers of all-time. :applause:

Winning a ring would boost his legacy.
he'll be better than Lebron in my book

harden will have him beat in: stats, skills, and quality of ring (winning with Westcancer)