Any NBA players who have a white dad and black mom?

[Dray n Klay]

Anyone know?

[LAmbruh]

:lol

[Detroit]

The closest you gonna get to that is Delonte West and Gloria James.

[Bronbron23]

Anyone know?
Im assuming this is a joke thread but if its serious then a whole bunch do.

[KOBEtherealKing]

Lavine
Kuzma
Lonzo
Josh hart

Pretty much most of the light skin players :coleman:

[coin24]

Hey OP how many times did your uncle cu.m in you this week?

[Bronbron23]

Lavine
Kuzma
Lonzo
Josh hart

Pretty much most of the light skin players :coleman:
This. Thats why assumed this must be a joke thread or something because nobody can be that stupid.

[Hey Yo]

Steph does.




https://thespun.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Screen-Shot-2016-05-12-at-11.26.40-AM.png

[Shogon]

Lavine
Kuzma
Lonzo
Josh hart

Pretty much most of the light skin players :coleman:

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.... and wrong again.

Wrong five times. I mean it

[Shogon]

Anyways, white guys usually don

[Bronbron23]

[QUOTE=Shogon]Anyways, white guys usually don

[highwhey]

Man you must of never been to atlanta or any other city where theres alot of black women.

And white guys dont go for black women because they're intimidated. They know they cant measure up to black men. Plus black women in general arnt attracted to white dudes. They dont feel the need to date outside there race. White women on the other hand love them some black men. These hoes cant get enough. They f*ck a bunch of nuckas all through high school and college and then when they're all used up and ready to settle down they find some dumb white dude to wife them up.
Facts

[Hey Yo]

Man you must of never been to atlanta or any other city where theres alot of black women.

And white guys dont go for black women because they're intimidated. They know they cant measure up to black men. Plus black women in general arnt attracted to white dudes. They dont feel the need to date outside there race. White women on the other hand love them some black men. These hoes cant get enough. They f*ck a bunch of nuckas all through high school and college and then when they're all used up and ready to settle down they find some dumb white dude to wife them up.
:oldlol: :oldlol:


"Aint no white guy never beat the shit out you like me, bitch!!! They can't measure up to Myyyy beatings.

[Bronbron23]

:oldlol: :oldlol:


"Aint no white guy never beat the shit out you like me, bitch!!! They can't measure up to Myyyy beatings.
Yup we definitely beat the hell out that white p*ssy. Glad you agree :cheers:

[Shogon]

Man you must of never been to atlanta or any other city where theres alot of black women.

And white guys dont go for black women because they're intimidated. They know they cant measure up to black men. Plus black women in general arnt attracted to white dudes. They dont feel the need to date outside there race. White women on the other hand love them some black men. These hoes cant get enough. They f*ck a bunch of nuckas all through high school and college and then when they're all used up and ready to settle down they find some dumb white dude to wife them up.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[DoctorP]

more low IQ trash. thanks insidehoops

[scuzzy]

Dominican Republic has some of the hottest female specimen of mixed black/latina women


Blasian mix is the best blend off all imo

[Bronbron23]

Dominican Republic has some of the hottest female specimen of mixed black/latina women


Blasian mix is the best blend off all imo
Yes yes they do. Kind of funny that homeboy said black women arnt attractive but all i see these days are tanned white women on Instagram with lip and but injections. Yeah black women straighten their hair and will use makeup to lighten their skin so its obviously mutual but to say black women arnt attractive is just crazy.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Lavine
Kuzma
Lonzo
Josh hart

Pretty much most of the light skin players :coleman:


This guy is an idiot lmfao, literally all 4 of those guys you listed got black daddies.

[Bronbron23]

Im assuming this is a joke thread but if its serious then a whole bunch do.
Just noticed the white dad part. Thought it was just asking black and white parents. In that case probably not many. Black women in general arnt attracted to white dudes.

[Bosnian Sajo]

This thread isn't dumb at all tbh, I cannot think of 1 player with a white dad and black mom lol. Not that it matters, but it is interesting.

[DoctorP]

This thread isn't dumb at all tbh, I cannot think of 1 player with a white dad and black mom lol. Not that it matters, but it is interesting.

it's super dumb and proves that most of you live in your moms basement and havent seen the world

not surprising considering the intelligence of the common sports fan

[Long Duck Dong]

Just noticed the white dad part. Thought it was just asking black and white parents. In that case probably not many. Black women in general arnt attracted to white dudes.

If it was really a case black women not wanting men of other races, not just whites, versus the other way around, it would be usually be an ugly black woman on the arm of a white guy who managed to get one. In reality its usually a cute black girl, the cream of the crop. When it's a white guy and a black girl, the black girl is the better looking individual most of the time.

[Bosnian Sajo]

it's super dumb and proves that most of you live in your moms basement and havent seen the world

not surprising considering the intelligence of the common sports fan


Why is it super dumb? It's a ****ing question and no one has been able to correctly point out a player with a white daddy and black mom, lol.


No one is saying anything condescending, disrespectful...it's a legit question.


BTW, what in the **** does "seeing the world" have to do with NBA players parents? :hammerhead:

[Shogon]

Why is it super dumb? It's a ****ing question and no one has been able to correctly point out a player with a white daddy and black mom, lol.


No one is saying anything condescending, disrespectful...it's a legit question.


BTW, what in the **** does "seeing the world" have to do with NBA players parents? :hammerhead:

It's "super dumb" because he's insanely insecure about his own race and he somehow takes this as a weird insult. It's not, it's just a fact.

Black dudes are better looking than black chicks. That's just facts.

Latin women / White women >>> Asian women >>>> black women. Please don't bring up the outliers, there are knockouts of literally all races. Generally speaking, what I said is true, however.

[JohnnySic]

If it was really a case black women not wanting men of other races, not just whites, versus the other way around, it would be usually be an ugly black woman on the arm of a white guy who managed to get one. In reality its usually a cute black girl, the cream of the crop. When it's a white guy and a black girl, the black girl is the better looking individual most of the time.
100%. When white guys mix, they get exceptional women from other races – beautiful, educated, accomplished, etc. You NEVER see a white guy with a fat/ugly/ghetto trash black girl/Asian/Latina whatever. Only top shelf. The same cant be said for other men. :oldlol:

[DoctorP]

It's "super dumb" because he's insanely insecure about his own race and he somehow takes this as a weird insult. It's not, it's just a fact.

Black dudes are better looking than black chicks. That's just facts.

Latin women / White women >>> Asian women >>>> black women. Please don't bring up the outliers, there are knockouts of literally all races. Generally speaking, what I said is true, however.

nice facts retard

im hostile to retarded bigots

go **** yourself

youre so retarded

the point is: retard. you are one.

GIF OF SHOGON:

https://media.giphy.com/media/G8ebH5TOE3pde/giphy.gif

[FultzNationRISE]

Not sure about currently.

Perhaps Dirk's kid will one day be a path breaker in that regard.

[Bosnian Sajo]

It's "super dumb" because he's insanely insecure about his own race and he somehow takes this as a weird insult. It's not, it's just a fact.

Black dudes are better looking than black chicks. That's just facts.

Latin women / White women >>> Asian women >>>> black women. Please don't bring up the outliers, there are knockouts of literally all races. Generally speaking, what I said is true, however.


See, I got nothing to do with this :oldlol: Idc about how you rate races of women, that's silly and beyond me. Every group has beauties. Every group has uglies.


I am, however, interested if there is an NBA player with a white dad and a black mom :oldlol: Only because of the fact that I can't think up of a single player with that pairing.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

[QUOTE=JohnnySic]100%. When white guys mix, they get exceptional women from other races

[JohnnySic]

white dudes love busted azn broads:roll: :roll:
Hard to judge them. :lol :confusedshrug:

[Shogon]

nice facts retard

im hostile to retarded bigots

go **** yourself

youre so retarded

the point is: retard. you are one.

GIF OF SHOGON:

https://media.giphy.com/media/G8ebH5TOE3pde/giphy.gif


Why are you so angry? Do you really love your mom who is black or something? What’s going on here?

There is objective and subjective beauty. They both do indeed exist. Most black women are objectively not attractive.

[DoctorP]

Why are you so angry? Do you really love your mom who is black or something? What’s going on here?

There is objective and subjective beauty. They both do indeed exist. Most black women are objectively not attractive.

angry? im merely pointing out the fact that you are retarded

even your "big words" ARE RETARDED

DID YOU EVER REACH 5TH GRADE?
DON'T GET SAD JUST ACCEPT THE TRUTH

YOURE DUMB AS SHIT

[DoctorP]

SHOGONS MOM IN THE HOUSE

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/nh2rgu/picture238984608/alternates/LANDSCAPE_768/MIA_game9UMwomhoop1-6-20MHSAU.JPG

[MrFonzworth]

It's "super dumb" because he's insanely insecure about his own race and he somehow takes this as a weird insult. It's not, it's just a fact.

Black dudes are better looking than black chicks. That's just facts.

Latin women / White women >>> Asian women >>>> black women. Please don't bring up the outliers, there are knockouts of literally all races. Generally speaking, what I said is true, however.
Ahahaha you ****ing idiot. It's been SCIENTIFICALLY ESTABLISHED that we, the Asian race, produce the most beautiful women. There's nothing more pleasing to the eye than a pale, pale, pale Taiwanese woman.

[Smoke117]

angry? im merely pointing out the fact that you are retarded

even your "big words" ARE RETARDED

DID YOU EVER REACH 5TH GRADE?
DON'T GET SAD JUST ACCEPT THE TRUTH

YOURE DUMB AS SHIT

You are having a huge meltdown in this thread. :lol

[jstern]

In the general public I see a lot of blond girls with dark black guys. It seems they like black guys. Maybe it's a size thing. I don't know.

[SouBeachTalents]

It's "super dumb" because he's insanely insecure about his own race and he somehow takes this as a weird insult. It's not, it's just a fact.

Black dudes are better looking than black chicks. That's just facts.

Latin women / White women >>> Asian women >>>> black women. Please don't bring up the outliers, there are knockouts of literally all races. Generally speaking, what I said is true, however.
Agreed with everything but the bolded. Imo Hispanic/Asian women >>> white >>>>>>>>>> black

The biggest issue with white women is they legitimately have the worst, most boring personalities. I'd definitely sleep with a white chick but would NEVER date one

[Manny98]

nice facts retard

im hostile to retarded bigots

go **** yourself

youre so retarded

the point is: retard. you are one.

GIF OF SHOGON:

https://media.giphy.com/media/G8ebH5TOE3pde/giphy.gif
Meltdown :lol

[Manny98]

In the general public I see a lot of blond girls with dark black guys. It seems they like black guys. Maybe it's a size thing. I don't know.
Because no one wants to go with a beta ass White guy unless they have money

[DoctorP]

If calling out retards is melting down then call me MOLTEN MAGMA


happy to see the retards come out and defend their fellow tards

Manny98
Smoke117
Shogon

(the tard crew)

[MrFonzworth]

Agreed with everything but the bolded. Imo Hispanic/Asian women >>> white >>>>>>>>>> black

The biggest issue with white women is they legitimately have the worst, most boring personalities. I'd definitely sleep with a white chick but would NEVER date one
Absolutely SouBeach!

[DoctorP]

this is the world retarded people live in:

asian men: mathematicians, small dix, skinny, kung fu masters, high IQ
black men: big dix, athletic gods, hit people and are abusive spouses, rappers and drug dealers, low IQ
white men: good for nothing cucks, racists, the empire in star wars
black women: see black men, instead of drug dealers they are strippers and hoes, low IQ
white women: golddiggers
asian women: golddiggers
latin men: see black men but with smaller dix and midget sized, soccer players
latin women: golddiggers, see black women
jewish men: cucks, suck black cox, evil business people, vile, emperor palpy
jewish women: golddiggers, suck black cox, witches

is this every retarded stereotype?

i feel sorry for the retards. no wait, i dont.

[Smoke117]

this is the world retarded people live in:

asian men: mathematicians, small dix, skinny
black men: big dix, athletic gods, hit people and are abusive spouses, rappers and drug dealers
white men: good for nothing cucks, racists, the empire in star wars
black women: see black men
white women: golddiggers
asian women: golddiggers
latin men: see black men but with smaller dix and midget sized
latin women: golddiggers

You okay, bro? Everything good at home?

I also never said I agreed with anything he said. It's just hilarious watching you get all wound up over bullshit.

[DoctorP]

You okay, bro? Everything good at home?

I also never said I agreed with anything he said. It's just hilarious watching you get all wound up over bullshit.

im not wound up. the emotions you perceive is in your retarded mind.

i just like to call out retards. they need to be laughed at until they shut the **** up

[madmax]

this is the world retarded people live in:

asian men: mathematicians, small dix, skinny
black men: big dix, athletic gods, hit people and are abusive spouses, rappers and drug dealers
white men: good for nothing cucks, racists, the empire in star wars
black women: see black men, instead of drug dealers they are strippers and hoes
white women: golddiggers
asian women: golddiggers
latin men: see black men but with smaller dix and midget sized
latin women: golddiggers, see black women

i feel sorry for the retards. no wait, i dont.

:lol
you pretty much hit a nail on the head with your racial compartmentalization here son...SHUT.IT.DOWN:bowdown:

[DoctorP]

:lol
you pretty much hit a nail on the head with your racial compartmentalization here son...SHUT.IT.DOWN:bowdown:

another retard confirmed.

[AlphaWolf24]

Man you must of never been to atlanta or any other city where theres alot of black women.

And white guys dont go for black women because they're intimidated. They know they cant measure up to black men. Plus black women in general arnt attracted to white dudes. They dont feel the need to date outside there race. White women on the other hand love them some black men. These hoes cant get enough. They f*ck a bunch of nuckas all through high school and college and then when they're all used up and ready to settle down they find some dumb white dude to wife them up.

^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^

[DoctorP]

updated retard list for retardz

asian men: mathematicians, small dix, skinny, kung fu masters, high IQ
black men: big dix, athletic gods, hit people and are abusive spouses, rappers and drug dealers, low IQ
white men: good for nothing cucks, racists, the empire in star wars
black women: see black men, instead of drug dealers they are strippers and hoes, low IQ
white women: golddiggers
asian women: golddiggers
latin men: see black men but with smaller dix and midget sized, soccer players
latin women: golddiggers, see black women
jewish men: cucks, suck black cox, evil business people, vile, emperor palpy
jewish women: golddiggers, suck black cox, witches
middle eastern men: sexually repressed terrorist murderers
middle eastern women: docile idiots

is this every retarded stereotype?

[Shogon]

updated retard list for retardz

asian men: mathematicians, small dix, skinny, kung fu masters, high IQ
black men: big dix, athletic gods, hit people and are abusive spouses, rappers and drug dealers, low IQ
white men: good for nothing cucks, racists, the empire in star wars
black women: see black men, instead of drug dealers they are strippers and hoes, low IQ
white women: golddiggers
asian women: golddiggers
latin men: see black men but with smaller dix and midget sized, soccer players
latin women: golddiggers, see black women
jewish men: cucks, suck black cox, evil business people, vile, emperor palpy
jewish women: golddiggers, suck black cox, witches

is this every retarded stereotype?

Imagine thinking that stereotypes don't exist for a reason. Not that I agree with your stereotypes, because I don't, as some of them aren't stereotypes but just some bullshit that you pulled out of your ass on the spot... but... yeah... stereotypes exist because they prove to be true, generally speaking, about large swaths of people.

Please don't get into that "not all people in a race are the same!" bullshit, because obviously they aren't. But stereotypes do exist for a reason.

If even like 60-70% of a race are covered by a stereotype, well, hello? Hell, even 50%. Think McFly, think. You wouldn't want me to turn in my homework in your handwriting, would ya?!

[DoctorP]

Imagine thinking that stereotypes don't exist for a reason. Not that I agree with your stereotypes, because I don't, as some of them aren't stereotypes but just some bullshit that you pulled out of your ass on the spot... but... yeah... stereotypes exist because they prove to be true, generally speaking, about large swaths of people.

Please don't get into that "not all people in a race are the same!" bullshit, because obviously they aren't. But stereotypes do exist for a reason.

If even like 60-70% of a race are covered by a stereotype, well, hello? Hell, even 50%. Think McFly, think. You wouldn't want me to turn in my homework in your handwriting, would ya?!

more retardation. this is rich. your logic is so dumb

[Shogon]

more retardation. this is rich. your logic is so dumb

Let's just start with one thing at a time, shall we? Imagine thinking that Asians aren't the highest IQ race and the best at math. Just imagine that.

[LAmbruh]

ITT



https://i.postimg.cc/9f91Kmsv/tjgwrglc0p921.jpg

[DoctorP]

Let's just start with one thing at a time, shall we? Imagine thinking that Asians aren't the highest IQ race and the best at math. Just imagine that.

retards fall into retarded thinking, as we clearly see

[Shogon]

retards fall into retarded thinking, as we clearly see

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Race_IQ_Sketch_OrderFlipped.PNG

Your IQ is statistically likely to be around 85. I don't expect you to understand.

[DoctorP]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Race_IQ_Sketch_OrderFlipped.PNG

what race are you asian?

ok so enjoy your small dick. go eat some rice and shut the **** up

[stalkerforlife]

Man you must of never been to atlanta or any other city where theres alot of black women.

And white guys dont go for black women because they're intimidated. They know they cant measure up to black men. Plus black women in general arnt attracted to white dudes. They dont feel the need to date outside there race. White women on the other hand love them some black men. These hoes cant get enough. They f*ck a bunch of nuckas all through high school and college and then when they're all used up and ready to settle down they find some dumb white dude to wife them up.

LMFAO.

As ugly as I am, I can have a black woman at the drop of a dime.

They're basically begging me to like them on the daily.

I have never seen a more thirsty group of women when it comes to the white man.

Just stop.

[DoctorP]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Race_IQ_Sketch_OrderFlipped.PNG

Your IQ is statistically likely to be around 85. I don't expect you to understand.

haha you think im black? youre a **** up all the way

[Shogon]

what race are you asian?

ok so enjoy your small dick. go eat some rice and shut the **** up

No, I'm white. But imagine thinking that Asians don't eat more rice than the rest of us.

You really are stupid, aren't you?

85 IQ.

[Shogon]

haha you think im black? youre a **** up all the way

Ok, so what race are you? A woke 20 year old brainwashed white kid? You're on the low end of the curve either way.

[Manny98]

LMFAO.

As ugly as I am, I can have a black woman at the drop of a dime.

They're basically begging me to like them on the daily.

I have never seen a more thirsty group of women when it comes to the white man.

Just stop.
:roll:

[Shogon]

Here's a fun fact, 90% of the world's rice is consumed in Asia... say it with me... stereotypes exist for a reason.

[DoctorP]

No, I'm white. But imagine thinking that Asians don't eat more rice than the rest of us.

You really are stupid, aren't you?

85 IQ.

oh youre white. go enjoy your average sized dix, boring 6 digit corporate job, your wife is getting banged by some other dude so you may want to watch that (tape it and upload on youporn) and enjoy being the typical empire goon from star wars (stormtrooper) that the other races will make fun of as Disney tries to integrate more minorities into the rebels as a way to get more minorities to buy their toys.

[Shogon]

oh youre white. go enjoy your average sized dix, boring 6 digit corporate job, youre wife is getting banged by some other dude so you may want to watch that and enjoy being the typical empire goon from star wars.

Let's fact check your white men stereotypes...

Average sized ***** for white men? Yes, that's true. White men do indeed have averaged sized *****.

6 figure corporate jobs? Nope, that's false. The average white makes around 31 grand a year.

"You're wife" yeah, ok, dealing with third grade grammar here. Anyways... men are more likely to cheat than women, and white people are less likely to have affairs than blacks. Additionally, it's something like 15-20% of people have affairs period... so a really false and poor stereotype that you made up. Nobody says this.

White men are into cucking? Nah, that's a liberal thing... not a white man thing.

So we're goons from Star Wars or we have 6 figure corporate jobs? Which is it? Can't have both.

You can't even form a coherent thought.

Why are you so triggered about black women?

Were you adopted by a black woman who took great care of you or something?

You're so, so incredibly triggered. You're either a black or a white kid that thinks he's championing racial relations on a basketball website that is infested with people that are low IQ or have crippling emotional disorders... so yeah, there's that.

[stalkerforlife]

oh youre white. go enjoy your average sized dix, boring 6 digit corporate job, your wife is getting banged by some other dude so you may want to watch that (tape it and upload on youporn) and enjoy being the typical empire goon from star wars (stormtrooper) that the other races will make fun of as Disney tries to integrate more minorities into the rebels as a way to get more minorities to buy their toys.

Why are you so mad that we don't like black women?

[Shogon]

Why are you so mad that we don't like black women?

Asking the real questions.

[DoctorP]

Let's fact check your white men stereotypes...

Average sized ***** for white men? Yes, that's true. White men do indeed have averaged sized *****.

6 figure corporate jobs? Nope, that's false. The average white makes around 31 grand a year.

"You're wife" yeah, ok, dealing with third grade grammar here. Anyways... men are more likely to cheat than women, and white people are less likely to have affairs than blacks. Additionally, it's something like 15-20% of people have affairs period... so a really false and poor stereotype that you made up. Nobody says this.

White men are into cucking? Nah, that's a liberal thing... not a white man thing.

So we're goons from Star Wars or we have 6 figure corporate jobs? Which is it? Can't have both.

You can't even form a coherent thought.

Why are you so triggered about black women?

Were you adopted by a black woman who took great care of you or something?

You're so, so incredibly triggered. You're either a black or a white kid that thinks he's championing racial relations on a basketball website that is infested with people that are low IQ or have crippling emotional disorders... so yeah, there's that.

You are clearly retarded to try to rationalize bullshit stereotypes.

[DoctorP]

Why are you so mad that we don't like black women?

i'm not mad, why do retards add emotion to text when none is specified? hmmm

[Shogon]

i'm not mad, why do retards add emotion to text when none is specified? hmmm

Mad, no... you're right. Downright heated and raging to the point of nearly bashing your keyboard against your monitor... yes.

[FultzNationRISE]

Let's fact check your white men stereotypes...

Average sized ***** for white men? Yes, that's true. White men do indeed have averaged sized *****.

6 figure corporate jobs? Nope, that's false. The average white makes around 31 grand a year.

"You're wife" yeah, ok, dealing with third grade grammar here. Anyways... men are more likely to cheat than women, and white people are less likely to have affairs than blacks. Additionally, it's something like 15-20% of people have affairs period... so a really false and poor stereotype that you made up. Nobody says this.

White men are into cucking? Nah, that's a liberal thing... not a white man thing.

So we're goons from Star Wars or we have 6 figure corporate jobs? Which is it? Can't have both.

You can't even form a coherent thought.

Why are you so triggered about black women?

Were you adopted by a black woman who took great care of you or something?

You're so, so incredibly triggered. You're either a black or a white kid that thinks he's championing racial relations on a basketball website that is infested with people that are low IQ or have crippling emotional disorders... so yeah, there's that.


Bro this is way too much investment into replying to an obvious troll account.

[DoctorP]

Mad, no... you're right. Downright heated and raging to the point of nearly bashing your keyboard against your monitor... yes.

you know I've won.

admit your retardation and log off immediately.

[stalkerforlife]

Mad, no... you're right. Downright heated and raging to the point of nearly bashing your keyboard against your monitor... yes.

:roll:

It's hilarious when an alt made strictly for trolling still can't keep up his intention and instead gets absolutely blasted psychologically and melts down.

[DoctorP]

remember whites: you are average
remember blacks: you are dumb
remember asians: your dix is tiny
remember women: you are gold diggers
remember jews: vile businessmen

keep thinking like retards and become the retard.

[DoctorP]

:roll:

It's hilarious when an alt made strictly for trolling still can't keep up his intention and instead gets absolutely blasted psychologically and melts down.

you live in Gainesville. nuff said. surprised you can read this.

[MrFonzworth]

remember whites: you are average
remember blacks: you are dumb
remember asians: your dix is tiny
remember women: you are gold diggers
remember jews: vile businessmen

keep thinking like retards and become the retard.
You've been posting a lot about Asian dick lately. Everything okay?

[DoctorP]

You've been posting a lot about Asian dick lately. Everything okay?

which retarded stereotype do you fit into?

[MrFonzworth]

which stereotype do you fit into?
When is 305baller coming back?

[DoctorP]

When is 305baller coming back?

i dunno. ask your mom

any other retarded questions?

[MrFonzworth]

i dunno. ask your mom

any other retarded questions?
Any NBA players who have a white dad and black mom?