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AirTupac
01-06-2020, 01:05 PM
Lakers drafting is by far the best in the biz.


In 7 minutes tonight the 3 man lineup of LeBon, AD, and Caruso posted a +12.1 Net Rating and are a +29.1 for the season in 137 minutes. It's no longer a small sample size, and he needs a lot more minutes with both of the stars going forward.

Bosnian Sajo
01-06-2020, 01:14 PM
Lakers didn't draft Caruso. Caruso went undrafted and was initially picked up by OKC.


Lakers got him after that.


But yes, I agree that the Lakers scouting department is ABSOLUTELY and A+ department. So many players who are playing big roles all around the league now, can't deny it. 1st rounders and 2nd rounders alike.

Uncle Drew
01-06-2020, 01:16 PM
> Look at us, our drafting is the best!!!
> Alex Caruso: Texas A&M (2012–2016), NBA draft 2016 / Undrafted

:roll:

Vino24
01-06-2020, 01:16 PM
Lakers are OP

AirTupac
01-06-2020, 01:19 PM
We're playing semantics here. Lakers picked up the guy and saw talent. Kept him on the G-league team and now hes legit the 3rd most important player on the Lakers.

"Guard-turned-breakout star Alex Caruso may provide a template for how they can restock their talent pool.

The Lakers developed Caruso from relative obscurity into a vital rotation contributor. Caruso is second on the team for regular rotation players with a net rating of 12.3 points per 100 possessions, behind just LeBron James.

None of this was guaranteed for Caruso. He spent most of his first two Lakers seasons with the South Bay Lakers on a two-way contract"

Vino24
01-06-2020, 01:23 PM
Op will you cheer for him when the Lakers trade him to the pelicans?

AirTupac
01-06-2020, 01:24 PM
Op will you cheer for him when the Lakers trade him to the pelicans?

I cheer for players I like when they leave my team. This includes players like Gasol, Ariza, Ingram. Caruso will be a champion with the Lakers :rockon:

highwhey
01-06-2020, 01:45 PM
[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]> Look at us, our drafting is the best!!!
> Alex Caruso: Texas A&M (2012

Real Men Wear Green
01-06-2020, 02:02 PM
Lakers drafting is by far the best in the biz.https://www.bardown.com/polopoly_fs/1.1012235.1519711497!/fileimage/httpImage/image.PNG_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/lonzo-ball.PNG

LAmbruh
01-06-2020, 02:03 PM
[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]> Look at us, our drafting is the best!!!
> Alex Caruso: Texas A&M (2012

scuzzy
01-06-2020, 02:10 PM
Lakers had to trade two #2 overall picks, #30 overall pick and three future first round picks to get the 2012 #1 pick


Best drafting in the league :oldlol:

Bosnian Sajo
01-06-2020, 02:11 PM
https://www.bardown.com/polopoly_fs/1.1012235.1519711497!/fileimage/httpImage/image.PNG_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/lonzo-ball.PNG


IDK where you've been, but take a look at how Lonzo is doing now that Gentry is giving him over 33 minutes per game the past 2 weeks.


Pelicans have won 5 of their last 6 games.

Real Men Wear Green
01-06-2020, 02:20 PM
IDK where you've been, but take a look at how Lonzo is doing now that Gentry is giving him over 33 minutes per game the past 2 weeks.


Pelicans have won 5 of their last 6 games.
How nice. He definitely has not been better than DeAron Fox, Donovan Mitchell, Bam Adebayo, Luke Kennard, and Jason Tatum, all of whom the Lakers drafted him ahead of. He may not even be a better pro than Frank Ntilikina though I wouldn't try to argue his particular case that hard (both are so far defensive specialist pgs).

highwhey
01-06-2020, 02:20 PM
https://www.bardown.com/polopoly_fs/1.1012235.1519711497!/fileimage/httpImage/image.PNG_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/lonzo-ball.PNG
https://i.postimg.cc/sxvn6xSW/CsL1W.png

AirTupac
01-06-2020, 02:39 PM
How nice. He definitely has not been better than DeAron Fox, Donovan Mitchell, Bam Adebayo, Luke Kennard, and Jason Tatum, all of whom the Lakers drafted him ahead of. He may not even be a better pro than Frank Ntilikina though I wouldn't try to argue his particular case that hard (both are so far defensive specialist pgs).

Lonzo has had spurts of pure magic. He has started this season off really bad but for him its all mental (and his inability to stay healthy). We've seen a really good Lonzo the last couple weeks, an aggressive Lonzo is a game changer. Lonzo still has the potential to end up being better than all of those players. But wait why would the Lakers care? They got Anthony Davis for him. They have a top 3 player in the NBA now. Not everyone is braindead like Danny Ainge and waste a HEAP of Brooklyn picks in one of the biggest heists in NBA history only to end up with Smart, Tatum, Brown instead of some serious firepower. Oh and then losing their 2 stars in Irving and Horford. Oh and then trading away Baynes and other legit role players. Great job Ainge!

#2 picks are way more volatile so idk why you're so mad. I know you hate me because I run rampant in your mind but....

Drafted D'Angelo #2 when NO ONE else had him at 2. And he's turning out to be the best in the group.

Drafted BI at #2 and he will end up being the best player in that draft (yes better than no shot Simmons)

Drafted Zubac, Clarkson, Larry Nance all with later picks (Clarkson and Nance).


Its okay guys. Lakers always win :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

Real Men Wear Green
01-06-2020, 02:44 PM
We've seen a really good Lonzo the last couple weeks, an aggressive Lonzo is a game changer. We've seen a career of 10, 6 and 6 on 38.5%.

superduper
01-06-2020, 02:46 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

AirTupac
01-06-2020, 02:52 PM
We've seen a career of 10, 6 and 6 on 38.5%.

He's also been injured for 2 straight off seasons :eek: :eek:

Maybe you could brush up on your reading skills before replying. :confusedshrug:

Real Men Wear Green
01-06-2020, 02:53 PM
He's also been injured for 2 straight off seasons :eek: :eek:

Maybe you could brush up on your reading skills before replying. :confusedshrug:
No, I can read your excuses just fine.

AirTupac
01-06-2020, 02:57 PM
No, I can read your excuses just fine.


Excuses :oldlol:

Step up your troll game bro. It's pathetic for a site you've been a moderator of for this long.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-06-2020, 03:00 PM
Don't f*ck with Air Caruso.

Hittin_Shots
01-06-2020, 03:02 PM
Lonzo has had spurts of pure magic. He has started this season off really bad but for him its all mental (and his inability to stay healthy). We've seen a really good Lonzo the last couple weeks, an aggressive Lonzo is a game changer. Lonzo still has the potential to end up being better than all of those players. But wait why would the Lakers care? They got Anthony Davis for him. They have a top 3 player in the NBA now. Not everyone is braindead like Danny Ainge and waste a HEAP of Brooklyn picks in one of the biggest heists in NBA history only to end up with Smart, Tatum, Brown instead of some serious firepower. Oh and then losing their 2 stars in Irving and Horford. Oh and then trading away Baynes and other legit role players. Great job Ainge!

#2 picks are way more volatile so idk why you're so mad. I know you hate me because I run rampant in your mind but....

Drafted D'Angelo #2 when NO ONE else had him at 2. And he's turning out to be the best in the group.

Drafted BI at #2 and he will end up being the best player in that draft (yes better than no shot Simmons)

Drafted Zubac, Clarkson, Larry Nance all with later picks (Clarkson and Nance).


Its okay guys. Lakers always win :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

How are brown, Tatum and smart not firepower? You act like Lakers are world beaters when they've only lost 1 less game than Boston..

bison
01-06-2020, 04:10 PM
Looking back there are really only 3 players I would have taken over Lonzo (tatum, donovan, fox)..and even then it's close. Before this season I would said Kuzma as well but he's kinda being exposed this year. So yeah, even if you re-did the draft, Lonzo still coming out #4 or #5. Hardly a drop off from #2. I mean everyone here knows this, but with the Lakers beasting again there is a revivalism of Laker hatred and so I expect people to keep lying about this team.

Wally450
01-06-2020, 04:11 PM
OP is the most retarded poster on this site.

Bosnian Sajo
01-06-2020, 04:13 PM
How nice. He definitely has not been better than DeAron Fox, Donovan Mitchell, Bam Adebayo, Luke Kennard, and Jason Tatum, all of whom the Lakers drafted him ahead of. He may not even be a better pro than Frank Ntilikina though I wouldn't try to argue his particular case that hard (both are so far defensive specialist pgs).

So he's at worst the 6th best player out of his draft class? :confusedshrug:



I agree with you (minus Kennard, good shooter but that alone doesn't make him better, and minus frankie), he wouldn't go 2nd in a redraft TODAY. Regardless, Lonzo will be just fine, kid is just getting started.

Real Men Wear Green
01-06-2020, 04:19 PM
So he's at worst the 6th best player out of his draft class? :confusedshrug:



I agree with you (minus Kennard, good shooter but that alone doesn't make him better, and minus frankie), he wouldn't go 2nd in a redraft TODAY. Regardless, Lonzo will be just fine, kid is just getting started.
The stupid statement by OP that I was replying to to begin with was "Lakers drafting is by far the best in the biz." If you use the 2nd pick in the draft on a player that a fan such as yourself wouldn't rate over 6th (and that many would rate lower) then you are not the best and in fact may not be any good at all.

Proctor
01-06-2020, 04:33 PM
[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]> Look at us, our drafting is the best!!!
> Alex Caruso: Texas A&M (2012

Bosnian Sajo
01-06-2020, 04:35 PM
The stupid statement by OP that I was replying to to begin with was "Lakers drafting is by far the best in the biz." If you use the 2nd pick in the draft on a player that a fan such as yourself wouldn't rate over 6th (and that many would rate lower) then you are not the best and in fact may not be any good at all.


Well I didn't say he was 6th, I was replying to your list to which I replied being at worst 6th ain't a bad thing lol.


You can't possibly believe that the Lakers don't have a good scouting department though...cmon, son.

2015-2018 Draft Picks
D'Angelo Russell
Larry Nance Jr.
Anthony Brown
Brandon Ingram
Ivica Zubac
Lonzo Ball
Josh Hart
Kyle Kuzma
Moritz Wagner
Isaac Bonga
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk




Minus Anthony Brown that's a solid list....most of these guys have big roles on their respective current teams. We turned 3 of these guys (plus a pick) into Anthony Davis, so obviously SOMEONE sees something in these players. That's just a 4 year window too, not counting Randle in 2014.

imdaman99
01-06-2020, 04:37 PM
About to get a Caruso jersey. Hope they are on sale as I do like the guy

Manny98
01-06-2020, 04:37 PM
[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]> Look at us, our drafting is the best!!!
> Alex Caruso: Texas A&M (2012

AirTupac
01-06-2020, 04:47 PM
Well I didn't say he was 6th, I was replying to your list to which I replied being at worst 6th ain't a bad thing lol.


You can't possibly believe that the Lakers don't have a good scouting department though...cmon, son.

2015-2018 Draft Picks
D'Angelo Russell
Larry Nance Jr.
Anthony Brown
Brandon Ingram
Ivica Zubac
Lonzo Ball
Josh Hart
Kyle Kuzma
Moritz Wagner
Isaac Bonga
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk




Minus Anthony Brown that's a solid list....most of these guys have big roles on their respective current teams. We turned 3 of these guys (plus a pick) into Anthony Davis, so obviously SOMEONE sees something in these players. That's just a 4 year window too, not counting Randle in 2014.


Thats the funny part. They'll focus on 1 pick (wasnt even that bad). When #2 picks are KNOWN to be a tough choice. Yet Lakers scored big on BI and D'Angelo when everyone else doubted it. You can look based on the last 20 years. But they'll ignore the multiple 2nd round steals, steal of the draft picks etc. Knowing how hard it is to even crack an NBA roster, and Lakers find multiple quality players year in and out.


THT is another steal.

Real Men Wear Green
01-06-2020, 04:50 PM
Well I didn't say he was 6th, I was replying to your list to which I replied being at worst 6th ain't a bad thing lol.


You can't possibly believe that the Lakers don't have a good scouting department though...cmon, son.

2015-2018 Draft Picks
D'Angelo Russell
Larry Nance Jr.
Anthony Brown
Brandon Ingram
Ivica Zubac
Lonzo Ball
Josh Hart
Kyle Kuzma
Moritz Wagner
Isaac Bonga
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk




Minus Anthony Brown that's a solid list....most of these guys have big roles on their respective current teams. We turned 3 of these guys (plus a pick) into Anthony Davis, so obviously SOMEONE sees something in these players. That's just a 4 year window too, not counting Randle in 2014.
The Davis trade was the product of Davis wanting out and letting other teams know he wouldn't sign with them. There was no bidding war. On that list Ingram, Russell and maybe Kuzma if this season hasn't wrecked him look like definite career starters. LA's scouting doesn't suck but OP wants to act like they're the best when thy clearly aren't.

Bosnian Sajo
01-06-2020, 04:54 PM
IDK about THT, he has showed me absolutely nothing but he is still young asf, I'll wait a long while before I have a true opinion on him.


But that's a good point, there are plenty of picks that don't even play a game/ are out of the league before their rookie deal ends. Wikipedia has a nice list of draft picks for every franchise, yall can check yourselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Los_Angeles_Lakers_first_and_second_round_ draft_picks

Near the bottom you'll see links to all teams.



In this period of time, since 2014 or 2015, I think only the Celtics have a solid argument of being the better scouting department. But even them, most of their picks since 2015 are out of the league...meanwhile all the Lakers picks play big roles on their respective teams minus Anthony Brown.


Give credit where credit is due :confusedshrug:

AirBonner
01-06-2020, 05:18 PM
IDK about THT, he has showed me absolutely nothing but he is still young asf, I'll wait a long while before I have a true opinion on him.


But that's a good point, there are plenty of picks that don't even play a game/ are out of the league before their rookie deal ends. Wikipedia has a nice list of draft picks for every franchise, yall can check yourselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Los_Angeles_Lakers_first_and_second_round_ draft_picks

Near the bottom you'll see links to all teams.



In this period of time, since 2014 or 2015, I think only the Celtics have a solid argument of being the better scouting department. But even them, most of their picks since 2015 are out of the league...meanwhile all the Lakers picks play big roles on their respective teams minus Anthony Brown.


Give credit where credit is due :confusedshrug:


Tank commanding is a big fvcking role huh? How about Tatum and Brown first year together leading their team to the conference finals? Ingraham is so far removed From being a high impact player.

LAmbruh
01-06-2020, 05:31 PM
Tank commanding is a big fvcking role huh? How about Tatum and Brown first year together leading their team to the conference finals? Ingraham is so far removed From being a high impact player.
Kobe stans got comfortable with tanking and being last place every year the past decade

So being 14th seed is right in their natural safe element

AirTupac
01-06-2020, 05:32 PM
IDK about THT, he has showed me absolutely nothing but he is still young asf, I'll wait a long while before I have a true opinion on him.


But that's a good point, there are plenty of picks that don't even play a game/ are out of the league before their rookie deal ends. Wikipedia has a nice list of draft picks for every franchise, yall can check yourselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Los_Angeles_Lakers_first_and_second_round_ draft_picks

Near the bottom you'll see links to all teams.



In this period of time, since 2014 or 2015, I think only the Celtics have a solid argument of being the better scouting department. But even them, most of their picks since 2015 are out of the league...meanwhile all the Lakers picks play big roles on their respective teams minus Anthony Brown.


Give credit where credit is due :confusedshrug:


You're arguing against a man child who's feelings are hurt when I call Tatum out for what he is. Guy's banned me over a dozen times and can't even do that properly. Jeff owns his life.

AirBonner
01-06-2020, 05:58 PM
Kobe stans got comfortable with tanking and being last place every year the past decade

So being 14th seed is right in their natural safe element
Bingo :cheers:

bison
01-06-2020, 06:36 PM
3rd most important player for me on the Lakers is the collective entity known as JaWight McHoward

14.0ppg/10.3rpg/3.1bpg on 68.3FG%

Doranku
01-06-2020, 06:53 PM
How nice. He definitely has not been better than DeAron Fox, Donovan Mitchell, Bam Adebayo, Luke Kennard, and Jason Tatum, all of whom the Lakers drafted him ahead of. He may not even be a better pro than Frank Ntilikina though I wouldn't try to argue his particular case that hard (both are so far defensive specialist pgs).

And Jaylen Brown has not been better than Buddy Hield, Jamal Murray, Domantas Sabonis, Pascal Siakam, and Malcolm Brogdon. :confusedshrug: Guess ya'll suck at drafting too.

Real Men Wear Green
01-06-2020, 07:15 PM
And Jaylen Brown has not been better than Buddy Hield, Jamal Murray, Domantas Sabonis, Pascal Siakam, and Malcolm Brogdon. :confusedshrug: Guess ya'll suck at drafting too.
You can hold that opinion but there's a very good chance Brown will be in the All-Star game. I don't believe that Mr. Ball will be in the All-Star game.

Real Men Wear Green
01-06-2020, 07:19 PM
IDK about THT, he has showed me absolutely nothing but he is still young asf, I'll wait a long while before I have a true opinion on him.


But that's a good point, there are plenty of picks that don't even play a game/ are out of the league before their rookie deal ends. Wikipedia has a nice list of draft picks for every franchise, yall can check yourselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Los_Angeles_Lakers_first_and_second_round_ draft_picks

Near the bottom you'll see links to all teams.



In this period of time, since 2014 or 2015, I think only the Celtics have a solid argument of being the better scouting department. But even them, most of their picks since 2015 are out of the league...meanwhile all the Lakers picks play big roles on their respective teams minus Anthony Brown.


Give credit where credit is due :confusedshrug:"Big roles" is highly subjective. How many of those guys are averaging double-figures, starting, playing regularly in the clutch, etc?

stalkerforlife
01-06-2020, 07:31 PM
OP got em on a leash.

And yes, Caruso is a star.

stalkerforlife
01-06-2020, 07:32 PM
You're arguing against a man child who's feelings are hurt when I call Tatum out for what he is. Guy's banned me over a dozen times and can't even do that properly. Jeff owns his life.

:roll:

bobopenguin
01-06-2020, 07:35 PM
caruso is a role player only, like nance. energy dude at the best.

let's stop hype everyone up, otherwise we are degrading ourselves to ridiculous homer like rockets fans.

Manny98
01-06-2020, 07:36 PM
Wait LeBrons third option is an undrafted pizza delivery man :biggums:

LAmbruh
01-06-2020, 07:40 PM
Wait LeBrons third option is an undrafted pizza delivery man :biggums:
and 1st seed out West :applause:


https://i.postimg.cc/KY4hMMkt/fgjfjfghjfj.png (https://postimages.org/)

AirTupac
01-06-2020, 10:20 PM
:roll:

I run this guys life :dancin

nashwade
01-06-2020, 11:35 PM
25 years olds shouldn't have hair like that

Bosnian Sajo
01-07-2020, 12:56 AM
"Big roles" is highly subjective. How many of those guys are averaging double-figures, starting, playing regularly in the clutch, etc?

Another big night for Zo and Ingram.

Ingram
35 pts and 8 rebs and 5 assists on 46% fg and 50% threes


Lonzo
21 pts and 8 rebs to go with 7 assists shooting 57% fg and 66% three (4 out of 6)


Lonzo, ingram, and hart all started for the Pelicans. Wagner is 6th man for Washington. Bonga (suprisingly) started 18/30 for Washington, Thomas Bryant is a starter for Washington. Clarkson 6th man for Utah, Randle starting for the Knicks....should I keep going?

highwhey
01-07-2020, 01:01 AM
Wait LeBrons third option is an undrafted pizza delivery man :biggums:
:roll:

Bosnian Sajo
01-07-2020, 01:02 AM
Tank commanding is a big fvcking role huh? How about Tatum and Brown first year together leading their team to the conference finals? Ingraham is so far removed From being a high impact player.

I literally said the Celtics have the argument for being the best scouting department, you dumb mother ****er.

What an idiot, honestly.

Real Men Wear Green
01-07-2020, 06:35 AM
Another big night for Zo and Ingram.

Ingram
35 pts and 8 rebs and 5 assists on 46% fg and 50% threes


Lonzo
21 pts and 8 rebs to go with 7 assists shooting 57% fg and 66% three (4 out of 6)


Lonzo, ingram, and hart all started for the Pelicans. Wagner is 6th man for Washington. Bonga (suprisingly) started 18/30 for Washington, Thomas Bryant is a starter for Washington. Clarkson 6th man for Utah, Randle starting for the Knicks....should I keep going?
Isaiah Thomas is a starter for Washington. Ish Smith may just be Washington's best player right now (he even fit them a win vs the Cs). Washington has been ruined by injuries and just have to play someone by league rules. Pelicans are another struggle franchise, AD forced them to take on half the Lakers roster may as well use them.

AirTupac
01-07-2020, 08:58 AM
This guy is smart. A team that traded its main star for a young core that also got decimated by injuries is a "struggling team". A Tatum on a Pelicans team would be hilariously bad considering the guy is a scorer who can't scorer that well on a loaded Boston team where he's not even being asked to be the main guy, 2nd guy or 3rd guy at times. :oldlol: :oldlol:


Another Jayson 17 pts on 40% game. Amazing player really.

Bosnian Sajo
01-07-2020, 11:33 AM
Isaiah Thomas is a starter for Washington. Ish Smith may just be Washington's best player right now (he even fit them a win vs the Cs). Washington has been ruined by injuries and just have to play someone by league rules. Pelicans are another struggle franchise, AD forced them to take on half the Lakers roster may as well use them.


Realistically, you could find an excuse for any argument if you try hard enough.


All I'm saying is the majority of the Lakers picks since 2014 are still in the league and playing big roles (i.e., getting 20 plus minutes per night).


That is an impressive accomplishment for the scouting department alone that they were able to pick NBA players who would stick around. If you disagree with that, fine, idc to keep this up with you.

ImKobe
01-07-2020, 12:16 PM
25 years olds shouldn't have hair like that

say it with me

R
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Neal Romer
05-18-2025, 08:13 PM
Bald Eagle flyin high rn.

No coincidence he played a key role in one championship run and could be on his way to another with a different franchise.

Very James Posey-esque.

fsvr54
05-19-2025, 12:05 AM
I always said that. He was the third best player on that Lakers team after Rondo and AD.

Neal Romer
05-19-2025, 01:22 AM
I always said that. He was the third best player on that Lakers team after Rondo and AD.

https://c.tenor.com/JwysRYRvmTEAAAAC/threat-collar-grab.gif


You think that's ****ing cute? Huh bitch??

fsvr54
05-19-2025, 01:56 AM
I think you're cute ;) :pimp: