View Full Version : Some guy stopped coaching the Cavs. Someone else will replace him. Probably.
Real Men Wear Green
02-19-2020, 09:13 AM
Something like 6 coaches in 7 years. Does the basketball-viewing public even care anymore?
Kblaze8855
02-19-2020, 09:46 AM
Been switching guys out every 2-3 years since like....Lenny Wilkins? Im not sure how long Mike Fratello got but I bet it was 3 years or less. Aside from Lenny Mike Brown might have been their longest tenured coach since Bill Fitch quit to go coach rookie Larry Bird.
rawimpact
02-19-2020, 11:34 AM
Owners and GMs are stupid... when they hire these coaches, why sign them to such long contracts? I mean with atleast players it's someone on the roster and later on will be a good expiring contract, but coaches signed to five years? And this Bilein (sp?) guy was an experiment. 5 years 25 million for an experiment with a 60 year old coach with no NBA experience? Ridiculously dumb cavs...
At some point the owner has to realize the coaches can only go as far as the roster allows them to.
scuzzy
02-19-2020, 12:19 PM
All three of Cleveland's sports owners are business guys that treat their franchise and employees like Applebee's day shift managers
1-2 year probation period after hire, with quarterly reviews every 4 months.
6 coaches? That's pocket change compared to the Browns :lol
Levity
02-19-2020, 01:17 PM
JB Bickerstaff is pretty ok with the way things are.
iamgine
02-19-2020, 01:51 PM
Owners and GMs are stupid... when they hire these coaches, why sign them to such long contracts? I mean with atleast players it's someone on the roster and later on will be a good expiring contract, but coaches signed to five years? And this Bilein (sp?) guy was an experiment. 5 years 25 million for an experiment with a 60 year old coach with no NBA experience? Ridiculously dumb cavs...
At some point the owner has to realize the coaches can only go as far as the roster allows them to.
I don't think any coach worth his salt would accept a one or two year deal. Even Luke Walton got a four year deal.
Meticode
02-19-2020, 09:11 PM
The sad part is the rebuilding hasn't even officially started yet and won't start until they move on from Love and Thompson and Drummond expires.
I literally face palmed myself when they signed him to $25 million for 5 years. When right now no coach in the NBA is even getting 5 years. Ty Lue couldn't get extra years from the Lakers.
fsvr54
02-19-2020, 10:17 PM
Owners and GMs are stupid... when they hire these coaches, why sign them to such long contracts? I mean with atleast players it's someone on the roster and later on will be a good expiring contract, but coaches signed to five years? And this Bilein (sp?) guy was an experiment. 5 years 25 million for an experiment with a 60 year old coach with no NBA experience? Ridiculously dumb cavs...
At some point the owner has to realize the coaches can only go as far as the roster allows them to.
Coaches have lives too and desire stability like any other person, you want to set yourself up and have a home for a while. Who wants to be changing jobs all the time? Its a hassle
Kblaze8855
02-19-2020, 10:41 PM
John Beilein's head coaching tenure with the Cleveland Cavaliers (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/CLE/cleveland-cavaliers/) barely lasted a half season. It seemed to all go downhill after he reportedly called the players thugs (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/cavaliers-coach-john-beilein-apologizes-to-players-after-calling-them-thugs-by-mistake-job-safe-per-report/) during a film session earlier in the year.
Beilein claimed that he meant to say "slugs" instead, but it appears that the locker room wasn't exactly buying that. According to a report from The Athletic, multiple Cavaliers players began playing songs that included the word "thug" (https://theathletic.com/1619192/2020/02/19/inside-the-failed-john-beilein-cavs-experiment-and-a-franchise-culture-problem/) in the title or lyrics.
[M]ultiple players began playing songs that included the word "thug" whenever Beilein was within earshot, sources said: Bone Thugz-n-Harmony's "Thuggish Ruggish Bone" and Tupac's "Thugz Mansion" among them. As the team boarded the bus a few days after the incident, one player was intentionally playing Trick Daddy's "I'm a Thug" with Beilein a few feet away. Other players blasted songs with the word "thug" loudly during workouts in the facility. Players did this to make light of a very tough situation, according to one team source.
"The worst part to me was not owning that he said it," one player told The Athletic.
Clearly the locker room wasn't willing to move past what Beilein had said earlier this season. The original incident occurred back on Jan. 8, but Shams Charania of The Athletic reported that the players "never really embraced his explanation." (https://theathletic.com/1619192/2020/02/19/inside-the-failed-john-beilein-cavs-experiment-and-a-franchise-culture-problem/)
Lebron23
02-19-2020, 11:49 PM
Bronny needs a good coach when the Cavs draft him in 2022, or 2023.
FultzNationRISE
02-20-2020, 12:01 AM
John Beilein's head coaching tenure with the Cleveland Cavaliers (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/CLE/cleveland-cavaliers/) barely lasted a half season. It seemed to all go downhill after he reportedly called the players thugs (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/cavaliers-coach-john-beilein-apologizes-to-players-after-calling-them-thugs-by-mistake-job-safe-per-report/) during a film session earlier in the year.
Beilein claimed that he meant to say "slugs" instead, but it appears that the locker room wasn't exactly buying that. According to a report from The Athletic, multiple Cavaliers players began playing songs that included the word "thug" (https://theathletic.com/1619192/2020/02/19/inside-the-failed-john-beilein-cavs-experiment-and-a-franchise-culture-problem/) in the title or lyrics.
[M]ultiple players began playing songs that included the word "thug" whenever Beilein was within earshot, sources said: Bone Thugz-n-Harmony's "Thuggish Ruggish Bone" and Tupac's "Thugz Mansion" among them. As the team boarded the bus a few days after the incident, one player was intentionally playing Trick Daddy's "I'm a Thug" with Beilein a few feet away. Other players blasted songs with the word "thug" loudly during workouts in the facility. Players did this to make light of a very tough situation, according to one team source.
"The worst part to me was not owning that he said it," one player told The Athletic.
Clearly the locker room wasn't willing to move past what Beilein had said earlier this season. The original incident occurred back on Jan. 8, but Shams Charania of The Athletic reported that the players "never really embraced his explanation." (https://theathletic.com/1619192/2020/02/19/inside-the-failed-john-beilein-cavs-experiment-and-a-franchise-culture-problem/)
It was stunning to me that this was any kind of a news story.
The fact he had to apologize for using a word :roll:
#So2020
Celtics 1825
02-20-2020, 03:15 AM
John Beilein's head coaching tenure with the Cleveland Cavaliers (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/CLE/cleveland-cavaliers/) barely lasted a half season. It seemed to all go downhill after he reportedly called the players thugs (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/cavaliers-coach-john-beilein-apologizes-to-players-after-calling-them-thugs-by-mistake-job-safe-per-report/) during a film session earlier in the year.
Beilein claimed that he meant to say "slugs" instead, but it appears that the locker room wasn't exactly buying that. According to a report from The Athletic, multiple Cavaliers players began playing songs that included the word "thug" (https://theathletic.com/1619192/2020/02/19/inside-the-failed-john-beilein-cavs-experiment-and-a-franchise-culture-problem/) in the title or lyrics.
[M]ultiple players began playing songs that included the word "thug" whenever Beilein was within earshot, sources said: Bone Thugz-n-Harmony's "Thuggish Ruggish Bone" and Tupac's "Thugz Mansion" among them. As the team boarded the bus a few days after the incident, one player was intentionally playing Trick Daddy's "I'm a Thug" with Beilein a few feet away. Other players blasted songs with the word "thug" loudly during workouts in the facility. Players did this to make light of a very tough situation, according to one team source.
"The worst part to me was not owning that he said it," one player told The Athletic.
Clearly the locker room wasn't willing to move past what Beilein had said earlier this season. The original incident occurred back on Jan. 8, but Shams Charania of The Athletic reported that the players "never really embraced his explanation." (https://theathletic.com/1619192/2020/02/19/inside-the-failed-john-beilein-cavs-experiment-and-a-franchise-culture-problem/)
Nakers all over again :oldlol:
insidehoops
02-20-2020, 09:49 PM
Let Kevin Love coach
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