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StrongLurk
02-25-2020, 11:51 AM
Possibly the best playmaker as well (depending on how you view passer/playmaker terms).

Not only is he leading the league in assists, he also leads the league in points off his assists for points per assist.

3ball
02-25-2020, 12:18 PM
It's funny because everyone says Lebron is a "genius" ballplayer

But why wasn't he starting at PG for his whole career? Why did it take so long to realize that his teams are better with him at PG, rather than SF (sharing the PG duties with Kyrie, Mo, Chalmers, etc, aka 2-PG lineups)?

The stats clearly show that teammates have less hold-time and assists in Lebron's 2-PG lineups of the past, than they do in traditional 1-PG lineups.. Lower teammate assists resulted in less TEAM assists and a brand that gets massively out-assisted and crushed on the championship level.

How could he not know this? The stats are clear as day... The reality is that lebron is NOT a genius and has simply been given the ball to do what he wants since he was 12.. he infact hamstrung every coach he ever had by forcing them to play this suboptimal brand

AirBonner
02-25-2020, 12:23 PM
LeBron won with Tyronn Lue as coach.

AirBonner
02-25-2020, 12:23 PM
LeBron won with Tyronn Lue as coach.

If anyone was hamstrung it was LeBron

3ball
02-25-2020, 12:32 PM
LeBron won with Tyronn Lue as coach.
He had an equal-scoring and usage teammate who closed and averaged 28 ppg, while outplaying the Warriors' best player.

With Kyrie outplaying their best player, lebron only had to outplay.. Klay?... Lol... Must be nice to have such an amazing cast

Ultimately, lebron wins off TALENT (a great-producing sidekick and closer) and therefore doesn't need a good coach - he only runs lebron-ball, not systems that coaches typically employ..

AirBonner
02-25-2020, 12:35 PM
He had an equal-scoring and usage teammate who closed and averaged 28 ppg, while outplaying the Warriors' best player.

With Kyrie outplaying their best player, lebron only had to outplay.. Klay?... Lol... Must be nice to have such an amazing cast

Ultimately, lebron wins off TALENT (a great-producing sidekick and closer) and therefore doesn't need a good coach - he only runs lebron-ball, not systems that coaches typically employ..

LeBron won without another allstar on his team. That is crazy that he made Kyrie into a competent player for an entire series (never been duplicated)

pauk
02-25-2020, 12:42 PM
Best assist man... but pest passer? He was that for a very long time in my book, after JKidd/Nash declined/retired i really couldnt see anybody else possessing the same passing skills/court vision.

Best passer for me is the guy who displays highest difficulty, creativity, quality, quantity and consistency array of passes... Passing ability is something you can only see, doesnt show on the stat sheet entirely (assists per game)

Player A: Made 10 simple assists, leads the league.
Player B: Made 1 no look assist, 1 behind the back assist, 1 lazer beam crosscourt, 1 threading the needle.

Player B got less assists bit displayed better passing ability & court vision.

This is why i call Lebron, Larry Bird and Maravich one of the best passers in NBA history...

ralph_i_el
02-25-2020, 02:24 PM
He's been the best player in the league this season, full stop.

Pipes2.0
02-25-2020, 09:30 PM
The full court lobs he throws every game to AD and the other Lakers, hot damn.
You would think that opposing teams have scouts telling them to watch out for these outlet passes but he still does it multiple times per game with high success rate.

BigShotBob
02-26-2020, 12:27 AM
He's been the best player in the league this season, full stop.

Better than Giannis? I don't see a single argument he has over him. Give Giannis AD and give Lebron Middleton....lol. I'm laughing just thinking about the hilarious amount of dominance they'll have together.

3ball
02-26-2020, 01:44 AM
Better than Giannis? I don't see a single argument he has over him. Give Giannis AD and give Lebron Middleton....lol. I'm laughing just thinking about the hilarious amount of dominance they'll have together.
Exactly

lebron wouldn't do anything with Middleton, whereas Giannis could win a ring with him

The reality is that guys like Giannis and MJ won with 2nd options that were inferior to Wade/AD, and no 3rd star like Bosh/Love.. So they need less to win, and are therefore superior.

They do more with less because they employ a superior brand of basketball that allows teammates to play to capacity alongside them... Giannis has a time of possession that is nearly 50% less than lebron's, while MJ played off-ball entirely

Bankaii
02-26-2020, 03:16 AM
Better than Giannis? I don't see a single argument he has over him. Give Giannis AD and give Lebron Middleton....lol. I'm laughing just thinking about the hilarious amount of dominance they'll have together.
It’s insane how elementary casuals that have never touched a basketball try to make the game seem. Horrible post.

Docs Orders
02-26-2020, 03:36 AM
Better than Giannis? I don't see a single argument he has over him. Give Giannis AD and give Lebron Middleton....lol. I'm laughing just thinking about the hilarious amount of dominance they'll have together.

"Giannis plays in the weak East where it's easy to feast off easy teams"


"put Giannis and Middleton out West and they wouldn't even...."


oh wait, we don't do that anymore :(

ImKobe
02-26-2020, 06:53 AM
He's been the best player in the league this season, full stop.

Not in the RS, but there's a high chance he's the best player in the Playoffs as usual. Giannis was highly efficient last RS as well but fell off once a good team had the time to prepare for him in a series.

ShawkFactory
02-26-2020, 09:03 AM
Exactly

lebron wouldn't do anything with Middleton, whereas Giannis could win a ring with him

The reality is that guys like Giannis and MJ won with 2nd options that were inferior to Wade/AD, and no 3rd star like Bosh/Love.. So they need less to win, and are therefore superior.

They do more with less because they employ a superior brand of basketball that allows teammates to play to capacity alongside them... Giannis has a time of possession that is nearly 50% less than lebron's, while MJ played off-ball entirely
What did Giannis win?

StrongLurk
02-26-2020, 11:58 AM
"Giannis plays in the weak East where it's easy to feast off easy teams"


"put Giannis and Middleton out West and they wouldn't even...."


oh wait, we don't do that anymore :(

Ouch...Lebron haters have nothing for this post.

StrongLurk
02-26-2020, 11:58 AM
What did Giannis win?

:roll: 3ball is an autistic moron

BigShotBob
02-26-2020, 01:07 PM
There is almost zero metric that suggests Lebron is better than Giannis.

Giannis is doing more with less. It's just that simple.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
02-26-2020, 01:17 PM
There is almost zero metric that suggests Lebron is better than Giannis.

Not even remotely true.