Lonzo and Ingram are this era's trash brothers

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

these 2 retards are gonna hold Zion back i can already see it:lol:lol:lol

[ImKobe]

Zion -10, 6 turnovers, 0 assists
Ingram +4
Zo 19/9/9/3

BI can be a positive on the court, even on off shooting nights. Zion can get his scoring numbers but he's one of the worst defenders in the league. Imagine having a 6-6 285 guy and your team would rather have a 6-5 hart & 6-3 Jrue guard a 35 y.o Lebron.

[scuzzy]

100% :lol


Zion was the only reason it was remotely close (and entertaining)

[ImKobe]

100% :lol


Zion was the only reason it was remotely close (and entertaining)

"only reason it was remotely close" -10, Pelicans outscore the Lakers with him on the bench. Meanwhile, they got outscored by 12 points in 8-9 minutes Ingram sat. Gentry's dumb ass benching Lonzo with 2 minutes to go at the half for Frank Jackson :facepalm .

[Docs Orders]

"only reason it was remotely close" -10, Pelicans outscore the Lakers with him on the bench. Meanwhile, they got outscored by 12 points in 8-9 minutes Ingram sat. Gentry's dumb ass benching Lonzo with 2 minutes to go at the half for Frank Jackson :facepalm .

Williamson + Lebron put on another clinic last night while Young Trash Core were nowhere to be found per usual. :lol



LeDaddy with an easy 4-0 clean sweep of that trash bucked in New Orleans :applause:

[Manny98]

"only reason it was remotely close" -10, Pelicans outscore the Lakers with him on the bench. Meanwhile, they got outscored by 12 points in 8-9 minutes Ingram sat. Gentry's dumb ass benching Lonzo with 2 minutes to go at the half for Frank Jackson :facepalm .

+/- don't mean shit when you're shooting 5-23 from the field :oldlol:

[scuzzy]

Williamson + Lebron put on another clinic last night while Young Trash Core were nowhere to be found per usual. :lol



LeDaddy with an easy 4-0 clean sweep of that trash bucked in New Orleans :applause:

Poor guy could only muster up a +/- lineup stat

Reality:

Zion: 35 points, 12-16 fg

Ingram: 15 points, 5-23 fg


All while BI got his shit pushed in by Lebron for the 4th straight game


:lol

[Docs Orders]

+/- don't mean shit when you're shooting 5-23 from the field :oldlol:


ImKobe slowly disappearing after half from each LAL/NOP Game Threads this yr


Ya hate to see it :oldlol:


Guy is a HUGE Lakers fan :yaohappy:

[Stanley Kobrick]

Ingram is 31-91 (34.1%) against the Lakers this year.

[ImKobe]

Poor guy could only muster up a +/- lineup stat

Reality:

Zion: 35 points, 12-16 fg

Ingram: 15 points, 5-23 fg


All while BI got his shit pushed in by Lebron for the 4th straight game


:lol


Reality - Pelicans got outscored by 10 points with Zion on the court, while they outscored the Lakers by 4 points with Ingram on the court.

Zion plays no defense and he rarely creates shots for others, so his impact is going to be lower than Ingram's, even when Ingram struggles shooting the ball. They barely run any sets for Zion, he scores off broken plays & put-backs and he's a nice commodity to have, but he hasn't had any impact on the Pelicans W/L record.


ImKobe slowly disappearing after half from each LAL/NOP Game Threads this yr


Ya hate to see it :oldlol:


Guy is a HUGE Lakers fan :yaohappy:


Imagine being a bandwagoning loser with no affiliation to any team. Sadly, you chose Zion as the next player to stan, who's nowhere near as good as the other young stars in the league.

[RRR3]

ImKobe really trying to use +/- to talk up Ingram :oldlol:

For the season he has an on/off of 0.0. DAT IMPACT!

Meanwhile Zion’s on/off is +13.9


Oops

[MrFonzworth]

ImKobe really trying to use +/- to talk up Ingram :oldlol:

For the season he has an on/off of 0.0. DAT IMPACT!

Meanwhile Zion’s on/off is +13.9


Oops

Shut her down:applause:

[Smoke117]

Imkobe is so salty that nobody gives a shit about Ingram anymore. :lol

[imdaman99]

Nah not Lonzo. He's already got some chemistry on lobs to Zion. But Ingram... I dunno how much of a winner that guy is.

[Keno]

Ingram has been always trash. Lonzo played better than usual the other night, still overall pretty trash too.

[SouBeachTalents]

Zion -10, 6 turnovers, 0 assists
Ingram +4
Zo 19/9/9/3

BI can be a positive on the court, even on off shooting nights. Zion can get his scoring numbers but he's one of the worst defenders in the league. Imagine having a 6-6 285 guy and your team would rather have a 6-5 hart & 6-3 Jrue guard a 35 y.o Lebron.
This dude seriously trying to argue Ingram had a better game than Zion last night :oldlol:

[ImKobe]

This dude seriously trying to argue Ingram had a better game than Zion last night :oldlol:

Pelicans got blown out with Zion on the court, can't say the same about Ingram. Zion also tried to post up Lebron and couldn't do shit against the LeGOAT. Zion's stats are EMPTY. Pelicans were on a roll prior to his debut with Ingram averaging 27/6/6 and the Pels going 10 - 5 in those 15 games (should be 11 - 4 but the refs robbed the Pelicans against Utah) that featured wins against Utah, Denver, Indy, Houston & Memphis.

Pelicans in 15 games with Zion are just 8 - 7 and it's affected their offense because Zion obviously kills the spacing when Favors is also on the court which takes away driving lanes from BI and makes him more of a jump shooter.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Missed 10 of their last 12 shots in the 4th/OT

0pts combined in OT

here we go

[Docs Orders]

trash bros with a classic 4th/OT choke vs Mavs


Zion 6pts in OT :applause:

[Marchesk]

Lonzo 11 rebounds, Zion 6

[bobopenguin]

Lonzo 11 rebounds, Zion 6

:roll::roll:
lonzo did played like a start tonight tho.

[Manny98]

BumGram once again nowhere to be found in clutch situations :facepalm

[dbugz]

Send empty stat Ingram to the d-league. Dude is a trash!

[ImKobe]

Missed 10 of their last 12 shots in the 4th/OT

0pts combined in OT

here we go

Ingram put them up 3 with 1:52 go, led the Pelicans in 4th quarter scoring with 7 on 50%FG (blame Gentry for only playing him 6:22 in the 4th), Lonzo assisted on the Melli 3 that got them to OT.. It's not like Zion did anything offensively when he came back with 3:43 to go in the 4th. Zion got lost on defense and didn't box out at the end of OT which basically ended the game.

[superduper]

No matter how hard you Bran stans try to downplay every single teammate he has ever had, Ball is playing at an allstar level.

I get it, y'all are shook.

[FKAri]

No matter how hard you Bran stans try to downplay every single teammate he has ever had, Ball is playing at an allstar level.

I get it, y'all are shook.

Lakers' trainers should be shook. Took the Pels one summer to fix his shot.

[ImKobe]

No matter how hard you Bran stans try to downplay every single teammate he has ever had, Ball is playing at an allstar level.

I get it, y'all are shook.

I knew he would look A LOT better once he got out of the toxic Lebron Ball offense. He's going to be an all-star in the future.

[YoungDripKing]

Lonzo and Ingram are going to be really good for the Pelicans. Why do people put them against Zion? They're teammates....

BTW Pelicans have been winning more since their team returned from injury. They had Okafor and the G league players playing SEVERE minutes. Once Favors came back, Pelicans went on a huge streak.

[Marchesk]

I wonder why Kblaze doesn't say anything about people hating on Lonzo and Ingram. Is there a minimum number of games before one can start hating on a younger player?

Or is it because Zion is causing people to catch feelings?

[Stanley Kobrick]

I wonder why Kblaze doesn't say anything about people hating on Lonzo and Ingram. Is there a minimum number of games before one can start hating on a younger player?

Or is it because Zion is causing people to catch feelings?

Lonzo and Ingram are in their 3rd and 4th season in the league while still playing lousy, losing basketball. Zion is in his 15th game and coming off injury

[Real Men Wear Green]

I wonder why Kblaze doesn't say anything about people hating on Lonzo and Ingram. Is there a minimum number of games before one can start hating on a younger player?

Or is it because Zion is causing people to catch feelings?
Ingram is a good player but not the star Williamson is and will be. Ball will be a starter or sixth man for a decade plus but it's a fact that he's a bustfor his draft position and the players that were drafted after him. Now that the BBB hoopla with his dad has died down and he's out of LA not enough people even care to say that he's being really hated.It's mainly the James haters and stans that till talk about these two due to their tangential relation to the original unhealthy obsessions.

[Marchesk]

Ingram is a good player but not the star Williamson is and will be..

I disagree with this. Ingram is an all-star this year and a little better overall, given how raw and not fully in shape Williamson is. I agree that Zion has greater potential, but what if Ingram turns into the next Durant?


Ball will be a starter or sixth man for a decade plus but it's a fact that he's a bustfor his draft position and the players that were drafted after him.

I'm beginning to disagree wiith this as Lonzo has looked like an all-star since he's been fully healthy, and he's had something to do with the Pelicans turning their season around. Right after their 13 game losing streak, they went on a little run while Holiday and Reddick were out for a few games if I recally correctly, and that's when Lonzo started balling.

Of course it's a small sample size (same with Zion if we're being honest), but I see the potential with Lonzo now.

Yeah, Zion has the most upside of the three, but Ingram is a 25 ppg scorer at 22 and Lonzo with a three point shot going aggressively to the rim along with his passing and defense makes him a potential all-star in the future.

[Marchesk]

Brandan Ingram: 24.6/6.2/4.3 with 1 steal and 0.7 blocks on 59.6 TS% with 112 defensive rating over 54 games

Zion Williamson: 24/6.8/2.2 with 0.9 steals and 0.4 blocks on 61.7 TS% with 113 defensive rating over 17 games


It's close. Ingram was a little bit better when he was the focus, but Zion is bit better with both of them in the lineup. I'll take the player who's made the all-star game and played 54.

Which is why Morant should win ROTY.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I disagree with this. Ingram is an all-star this year and a little better overall, given how raw and not fully in shape Williamson is. I agree that Zion has greater potential, but what if Ingram turns into the next Durant?He could be an inferior version but his career o far says Ingram definitely isn't KD. Durant was the best scorer the league had seen since Jordan. Ingram doesn't have that kind of potential. Getting back to Williamson ZW is his statistical equal playing with minute restriction most of his short season and coming off an injury, Williamson's numbers have trended up steadily (compare February to January). Zion Williamson would have Ingram's ASG spot if he hadn't been hurt.




I'm beginning to disagree wiith this as Lonzo has looked like an all-star since he's been fully healthy, and he's had something to do with the Pelicans turning their season around. Right after their 13 game losing streak, they went on a little run while Holiday and Reddick were out for a few games if I recally correctly, and that's when Lonzo started balling.Just a week or two ago Ball was having 5 and 2 point games. He averages something like 12 6 and 7. He has improved since he came into the league but he's fr from being a star. A player is neither his best games nor his worst.

[ImKobe]

He could be an inferior version but his career o far says Ingram definitely isn't KD. Durant was the best scorer the league had seen since Jordan. Ingram doesn't have that kind of potential. Getting back to Williamson ZW is his statistical equal playing with minute restriction most of his short season and coming off an injury, Williamson's numbers have trended up steadily (compare February to January). Zion Williamson would have Ingram's ASG spot if he hadn't been hurt.


I would have agreed somewhat in years prior but he's improved enough to the point I could definitely see him becoming a great offensive player. The KD comparisons do need to stop though, Ingram's not the same size as him. He does have a great all-around scoring game so he clearly has the potential to become an ATG scorer. BI and Zion would have both been All-Stars and the Pelicans would have been in the Playoffs with everyone healthy.

[red1]

No matter how hard you Bran stans try to downplay every single teammate he has ever had, Ball is playing at an allstar level.

I get it, y'all are shook.

holy shit you are one special retard. :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

I would have agreed somewhat in years prior but he's improved enough to the point I could definitely see him becoming a great offensive player. The KD comparisons do need to stop though, Ingram's not the same size as him. He does have a great all-around scoring game so he clearly has the potential to become an ATG scorer. BI and Zion would have both been All-Stars and the Pelicans would have been in the Playoffs with everyone healthy.

How far out are you stretching the ATG scoring list to include Ingram? Ask yourself a simple question: is he a better scorer than Dominique Wilkins? If the answer "no" then I don't see how meaningful it is to say he's ab all time great scorer. He isn't even in the top 10 for this season, which is his highest scoring to date.

[ImKobe]

How far out are you stretching the ATG scoring list to include Ingram? Ask yourself a simple question: is he a better scorer than Dominique Wilkins? If the answer "no" then I don't see how meaningful it is to say he's ab all time great scorer. He isn't even in the top 10 for this season, which is his highest scoring to date.

Nique wasn't even in the league at the same age, I don't know why I'd compare a 22 y.o Ingram to prime Nique but he's a better shooter obviously, has a better all-around offensive game. He's going to average 24-25 ppg on ~60%TS at age 22. He's made a significant jump in just one season. Are you saying this is his peak or something? If you're asking me whether he's going to end up with more points than Nique, then I would say there's a possibility, given that he'll have scored 4k+ points before he reaches the same age Nique was when he played his first NBA game. He'll reach a very high points total, barring significant injury.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Nique wasn't even in the league at the same age, I don't know why I'd compare a 22 y.o Ingram to prime Nique but he's a better shooter obviously, has a better all-around offensive game. He's going to average 24-25 ppg on ~60%TS at age 22. He's made a significant jump in just one season. Are you saying this is his peak or something? If you're asking me whether he's going to end up with more points than Nique, then I would say there's a possibility, given that he'll have scored 4k+ points before he reaches the same age Nique was when he played his first NBA game. He'll reach a very high points total, barring significant injury.
He's in his fourth year. Like all other players these days he's enterd early and that also hastens his maturation into what he'll be. 4th year, 11 year-old Durant, a real all-time great scorer, was averaging 27.7 and had averaged 30 the year before. The standard is high if you want to talk about All-Time greats. Ingram doesn't meet that kind of standard.

[Marchesk]

He's in his fourth year. Like all other players these days he's enterd early and that also hastens his maturation into what he'll be. 4th year, 11 year-old Durant, a real all-time great scorer, was averaging 27.7 and had averaged 30 the year before. The standard is high if you want to talk about All-Time greats. Ingram doesn't meet that kind of standard.

Then again, 4th year Giannis averaged 22.9 and was a terrible three point shooter. And now he's looking like a potential all-time great.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Then again, 4th year Giannis averaged 22.9 and was a terrible three point shooter. And now he's looking like a potential all-time great.
Giannis is still a bad three-point shooter and Ingram isn't Giannis.

Are we going to say that every guy that scores over 20 at age 22 is going to be one of the greatest scorers ever? It should be rarefied air or else it doesn't mean anything.

[FireDavidKahn]

Then again, 4th year Giannis averaged 22.9 and was a terrible three point shooter. And now he's looking like a potential all-time great.

Gianabolic had a little "help"

[FireDavidKahn]

Ingram

2-16

[Marchesk]

Ingram

2-16

Two big shots last couple minutes.

Lonzo: 16/9/8
Hart: 12 rebounds, Zion 6 rebounds

[Docs Orders]

Ingram

2-16

:roll:

[NuggetsFan01]

Trash brothers :lol

[Manny98]

BrunGram putting on another bricking clinic last night shooting 4-20 against the Heat :oldlol:

Thank God for Zion & Jrue otherwise the Pelicans would be toast

[LAmbruh]

BrunGram putting on another bricking clinic last night shooting 4-20 against the Heat :oldlol:

Thank God for Zion & Jrue otherwise the Pelicans would be toast
IV Brick Queef laid another stink bomb? :oldlol:


More news at 11

[LAmbruh]

Zion (23 pts) and Jrue (37 points) leading Pels to another win respectively :applause:

[ImKobe]

Zion (23 pts) and Jrue (37 points) leading Pels to another win respectively :applause:

So points = leading the team?

Who leads the Lakers in scoring?

[scuzzy]

Zion (23 pts) and Jrue (37 points) leading Pels to another win respectively :applause:
Ingram demoted to 4th option and Pelicans start winning


Who would have guessed :lol

[NBAGOAT]

unpopular opinion but i dont think pelicans particularly need ingram. if someone like charlotte gives him a max, they dont necessarily have to match it immediately. see how buddy hield has worked out for sac for example. not always a guarantee a young guy should improve.

Lonzo should play with zion for 10+ years however. they're too good together and lonzo's playstyle meshes really well with stars

[Real Men Wear Green]

unpopular opinion but i dont think pelicans particularly need ingram. if someone like charlotte gives him a max, they dont necessarily have to match it immediately. see how buddy hield has worked out for sac for example. not always a guarantee a young guy should improve.

Lonzo should play with zion for 10+ years however. they're too good together and lonzo's playstyle meshes really well with stars

Even if they don't want Ingram long term the value he represents is too great to just let him walk. Sign him for whatever it takes and then trade hin down the line if it doesn't work but he's an all-star and that means he's an asset.

And on a different note I know you just used them as a hypothetical but I feel compelled to say that Charlotte isn't maxing anybody.

[Marchesk]

Zion (23 pts) and Jrue (37 points) leading Pels to another win respectively :applause:

Ingram: 12 rebounds, Zion: 7

ingram: 7 assists, Zion: 1

Lonzo: 18/5/8

I realize some of you believe scoring is the only stat that matters.

[LAmbruh]

Ingram: 12 rebounds, Zion: 7

ingram: 7 assists, Zion: 1

Lonzo: 18/5/8

I realize some of you believe scoring is the only stat that matters.

having to jump around multiple teammates to match up with Zion productivity, yikes

17 games in and already keys to the team

gonna be a long miserable 15+ years for you

keep your head up

[Stanley Kobrick]

Pelicans look a lot better when Ingram gets less touches that i've noticed

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Trash brothers :lol

Formerly known as Lousy/_efrozen

[Smoke117]

So points = leading the team?

Who leads the Lakers in scoring?

This fakkot is so salty that nobody gives a shit about Ingram anymore. The Pelicans are Zion's team and Ingram better get in line or find a new team, bitch.

[scuzzy]

20+ point games

Zion: 15 (19 games)



Ingram: 2 (2017), 10 (2018)

Lonzo: 2 (2018), 3 (2019)

[ImKobe]

This fakkot is so salty that nobody gives a shit about Ingram anymore. The Pelicans are Zion's team and Ingram better get in line or find a new team, bitch.

What do you mean? These guys are obsessed enough to post about him after EVERY game, they're more invested in him than I am.

[Marchesk]

What do you mean? These guys are obsessed enough to post about him after EVERY game, they're more invested in him than I am.

You mean every game where he doesn't play as well. But is a 15/12/7 game really a bad one? Other dudes like Jrue and Zion were scoring. Ingram led the team in rebounding and was second in assists (well third since Holiday and Ball both had 8). That's good.

[superduper]

You mean every game where he doesn't play as well. But is a 15/12/7 game really a bad one? Other dudes like Jrue and Zion were scoring. Ingram led the team in rebounding and was second in assists (well third since Holiday and Ball both had 8). That's good.

Rebounds and assists only matter when Bran does it.

[Marchesk]

Rebounds and assists only matter when Bran does it.

I see Davis and Bradley carried the Lakers yesterday.