View Full Version : WE ARE WITNESS. 34-13-12 on 67% (+22)
SpaceJam2
03-01-2020, 11:36 PM
King James reigns supreme once again. Spoils Zion's and Ingram's second chance
StrongLurk
03-01-2020, 11:37 PM
Best player I've seen besides MJ...old man Bron telling youngin's to keep off his lawn still.
Docs Orders
03-01-2020, 11:52 PM
:rockon:
DoctorP
03-01-2020, 11:53 PM
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FireDavidKahn
03-02-2020, 01:21 AM
LeGOAT
3ball
03-02-2020, 01:28 AM
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TLDR: down the stretch of tight games (last 5 minutes within 5 points), Lebron shot 41% on 3.0 attempts per game for his career (04-19'), compared 47% on 3.6 attempts for old MJ in 97' and 98' (20% more clutch attempts on much better efficiency).
CLUTCH - Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001
134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game
Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals): 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals): 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)
42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game
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And 0-8 in the championship for Lebron, compared to 4-8 for Jordan
Lebron23
03-02-2020, 01:30 AM
5th MVP here we come.
3ball
03-02-2020, 01:30 AM
LeGOAT
- Scoring (PPG)
- efficiency rating (PER)
- winning contribution (WS/48)
- box score stats (BPM)
^^^ MJ is #1 in all
so MJ owns the stats, modern era winning (6 "best player" rings), and clutch (see previous post)
carry on
Micku
03-02-2020, 01:34 AM
5th MVP here we come.
Nah, this year is Giannis MVP.
But damn, LeBron at this stage of his career is still going strong. We gonn'a miss this when he retires.
3ball
03-02-2020, 01:38 AM
We gonn'a miss this when he retires
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haha no we won't
I'll be thrilled when people quit claiming the greatest player ever is allowed to be a perennial underdog and loser and need additional "playmakers" on his team
I'll be thrilled when that happens and will almost certainly start watching once this massive misperception, dumb thinking, and talent-based winning (team-hopping) is gone from our game
carry on
SpaceJam
03-02-2020, 01:39 AM
+22 is insane :wtf:
Was +16 in a 2 point game at one point too
Absolute carry job
bullettooth
03-02-2020, 01:41 AM
Why is the bar set so low for LeBron? We're supposed to be impressed that a veteran as great as LeBron beat up on a f*cking ROOKIE?
Im so nba'd out
03-02-2020, 01:43 AM
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17th season....still the same ole bron...ole$5 footlong James
No Wade No Ad No Kyrie vs (pretty much) charles barkley, young jason kidd, and Scottie pippen all on the same team
no help no problem.....king me
3ball
03-02-2020, 01:44 AM
+22 is insane :wtf:
Was +16 in a 2 point game at one point too
Absolute carry job
carry job?
lebron always needed an equal scoring and usage partner to win a ring, whereas MJ scored 10-30 more than his sidekick for every series of his career, while nearly doubling their usage
so no... not a carry job compared to the he goat standard.. instead, it's a shared load (equal scoring and usage partner... and closer)
carry on
SpaceJam
03-02-2020, 01:47 AM
carry job?
lebron always needed an equal scoring and usage partner to win a ring, whereas MJ scored 10-30 more than his sidekick for every series of his career, while nearly doubling their usage
so no... not a carry job compared to the he goat standard.. instead, it's a shared load (equal scoring and usage partner... and closer)
carry on
1-9
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year 17, more mileage, if not equal to the entire pelicans roster. missing two of his important team mates. a pelicans squad fighting for a playoff spot, easy money for leGOAT.
3ball
03-02-2020, 01:54 AM
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real MVP's and carry-job guys like Giannis and MJ (guys that win without super-teams or equal-scoring sidekicks) carried lottery casts to the 8 vs 1 matchup, while runner-up specialists like Lebron only made the playoffs with high seeds/good teams/easy 1st round matchups
carry on
SpaceJam
03-02-2020, 01:56 AM
real MVP's and carry-job guys like Giannis and MJ (guys that win without super-teams or equal-scoring sidekicks) carried lottery casts to the 8 vs 1 matchup, while runner-up specialists like Lebron only made the playoffs with high seeds/good teams/easy 1st round matchups
carry on
1-9
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3ball
03-02-2020, 02:01 AM
1-9
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LeRunnerUp
has lebron even won MVP in his 30's?... no wonder he can play so long
Docs Orders
03-02-2020, 02:28 AM
Big Game James
And1AllDay
03-02-2020, 02:35 AM
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Such a dirty skid mark on "no good rings" mikey jordan
such a sad failure of a player
if he wins ONE playoff series in 5 years he ha without Pip Igive him more credit, buttttttttt
he did not
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