LeBron James Is A Clutch Free Throw Shooter

[FireDavidKahn]

Let's squash this myth that he isn't once and for all. For his career in the play offs during clutch moments he is:

Play offs: 76%
Finals: 87%



https://media.giphy.com/media/GV3aYiEP8qbao/giphy.gif

[StrongLurk]

Gonna need a source.

[FireDavidKahn]

Gonna need a source.

Had to manually add them up from

https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=GP&dir=-1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals&CF=PLAYER_NAME*E*lebron%20james&PORound=4

That's for the finals, for just the play offs you can add them here:

https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=GP&dir=-1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals&CF=PLAYER_NAME*E*lebron%20james

As for the numbers, here are the Finals totals:

2 2
5 6
4 4
1 2
9 10
1 2
2 2
3 3


27 31

And for the play offs:

24 29
16 25
8 12
8 10
3 4
8 8
23 31
11 13
10 13
15 18
3 4
6 11
13 17

148 195

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

:lebronamazed:

Not bad for someone who isn't clutch. Nevermind a poor shooter.

[RRR3]

LeClutch :bowdown:

[Keno]

noticed that about him, he usually doesn't give a ****. unless it's in crucial moments, then he's automatic.

[FireDavidKahn]

3ball gave this a 1 star.

I only posted facts:roll:

[TheCorporation]

Bingo

:dancin

ANOTHER ONE

[FireDavidKahn]

Yo, Lambruh, check this out.

Desserts on me tonight for the fam!

[TheCorporation]

Yo, Lambruh, check this out.

Desserts on me tonight for the fam!

Thanks brodie, we gettin chubby ouchea

:hammertime:

[Hey Yo]

Fourth quarter, game 7 of the 2016 Finals with GS up 87-83 and 5:24 to go in the game.

James goes to the line to shoot 3fta

5:24.0 - Shooting foul by F. Ezeli (drawn by L. James) 83-87
5:24.0 - L. James makes free throw 1 of 3 +1 84-87
5:24.0 - L. James makes free throw 2 of 3 +1 85-87
5:24.0 - L. James makes free throw 3 of 3 +1 86-87

:hammertime:

[warriorfan]

Had to manually add them up from

https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=GP&dir=-1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals&CF=PLAYER_NAME*E*lebron%20james&PORound=4

That's for the finals, for just the play offs you can add them here:

https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=GP&dir=-1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals&CF=PLAYER_NAME*E*lebron%20james

As for the numbers, here are the Finals totals:

2 2
5 6
4 4
1 2
9 10
1 2
2 2
3 3


27 31

And for the play offs:

24 29
16 25
8 12
8 10
3 4
8 8
23 31
11 13
10 13
15 18
3 4
6 11
13 17

148 195

....

:roll:

[AirFederer]

LeAutomatic


No clutch found

[FireDavidKahn]

....

:roll:

You lose again, baby boi

[brownmamba00]

Said no one ever:lol

[Zob Rombie]

This is my first post, even though I followd this forum for years, and I certainly always liked Mj more than I ever liked LBJ.
Having said that I can't stand 3ball, that guy is disturbing.

[Zob Rombie]

3ball gave this a 1 star.

I only posted facts:roll:

This is my first post, even though I followd this forum for years, and I certainly always liked Mj more than I ever liked LBJ.
Having said that I can't stand 3ball, that guy is disturbing.

[FireDavidKahn]

Said no one ever:lol


Finals: 87%

Read it and weep, baby boi

[RRR3]

People arguing with facts ITT




b-b-b-but LeBron missed a bunch of regular season FTs :cry:

[MrFonzworth]

Big if true:applause:

[FireDavidKahn]

Big if true:applause:

It's true. VERY Gi**** (I'll get banned for actually saying that word now! )

[Trollsmasher]

bron bron shooting way over his career average in the clutch:bowdown:

[nikosvault]

Can't believe my first post on this forum is going to get me killed by all these Lebron fans.

But I just made a video on Lebron's "clutchness" in the finals.

Outside of 2012, 2013 and 2018...it's not pretty.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgtP1MZ8oWo

[FireDavidKahn]

Can't believe my first post on this forum is going to get me killed by all these Lebron fans.

But I just made a video on Lebron's "clutchness" in the finals.

Outside of 2012, 2013 and 2018...it's not pretty.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgtP1MZ8oWo

I just posted FACTS about his free throw shooting ability when it really mattered the most

[ArbitraryWater]

Can't believe my first post on this forum is going to get me killed by all these Lebron fans.

But I just made a video on Lebron's "clutchness" in the finals.

Outside of 2012, 2013 and 2018...it's not pretty.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgtP1MZ8oWo


Corny dude deleting comments on your video that don't suit your agenda.

Thats the worst kind of slimy. Thats some weak CNN level stuff.

Next time, let your hypocrisy be heard.

Waiting on the Kobe 4th quarter finals vid.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Corny dude deleting comments on your video that don't suit your agenda.

Thats the worst kind of slimy. Thats some weak CNN level stuff.

Next time, let your hypocrisy be heard.

Waiting on the Kobe 4th quarter finals vid.

:oldlol:

That's some NK censorship right there. You left a comment, and he deleted it or what?

[nikosvault]

:oldlol:

That's some NK censorship right there. You left a comment, and he deleted it or what?

I an today (jokes about Kobe's crash are all over the comment section).

But not yesterday. He must have been a YT troll on some of my other videos even before this video was posted.

[nikosvault]

Corny dude deleting comments on your video that don't suit your agenda.

Thats the worst kind of slimy. Thats some weak CNN level stuff.

Next time, let your hypocrisy be heard.

Waiting on the Kobe 4th quarter finals vid.

All of the comments I deleted TODAY (don't know why your comment would disappear yesterday) were sour grapes and empty/ugly Kobe bashing.

But please share your substantial criticism of the video here.

And yes, I'm going to do the same video with Kobe and MJ next week.

[ArbitraryWater]

:oldlol:

That's some NK censorship right there. You left a comment, and he deleted it or what?

Yeah. I guess it would have been a bad look if his comment had 2 comments and one of them picked out many flaws


All of the comments I deleted TODAY (don't know why your comment would disappear yesterday) were sour grapes and empty/ugly Kobe bashing.

But please share your substantial criticism of the video here.

And yes, I'm going to do the same video with Kobe and MJ next week.

Sour grapes? Bashing? I merely said its a weak perspective to base your clutch opinion of. Most of LeBron's "weak" (mind you he us shooting near average for the criteria since teams as a whole shoot significantly less in such situations) comes from 2015, where he was a one-man band and run down/tired at the end of games.

If you would actually adhere to clutch statistics, you would certainly believe LeBron to either be better or more of a cool head than Kobe. Because he outperforms your man across the board.

And if you would pay attention to every shot, it's funny how often LeBron is given the ball with 5 or less seconds on the clock as his teammates (mostly Wade) failed to create and he is asked to bail-out, given no time.

The very thing Kobe fans used to accuse LeBron of not doing. "Kobe takes all the tough late shotclock shots doe".

[ImKobe]

He's actually not.

Down/Up 5 within the last 5 minutes of the 4th, RS

2004: 68.6%
2005: 75.0%
2006: 65.9%
2007: 68.3%
2008: 79.3%
2009: 85.1%
2010: 80.5%
2011: 83.9%
2012: 75.0%
2013: 75.6%
2014: 86.2%
2015: 79.4%
2016: 69.6%
2017: 65.7%
2018: 65.5%
2019: 75.0%
2020: 62.1%

Down/Up 5 within the last 5 minutes of the 4th, Playoffs

2006: 79.2%
2007: 57.9%
2008: 66.7%
2009: 75.0%
2010: 75.0%
2011: 100% - only 0.6 FTA in 14 games = 8-9 attempts
2012: 77.8%
2013: 84.6%
2014: 76.9%
2015: 85.7%
2016: 75.0%
2017: 54.5%
2018: 76.5%


So, as you can see, he hasn't been a "clutch" FT shooter for the majority of his career. Some Playoff runs obviously have a very limited amount of attempts but the RS numbers tell a whole lot more. He's been a declining FT shooter and the numbers pretty much support that in crunch time as well. He was really good at his peak but he's just not that guy anymore.

I can just give you a nice comparison by looking at some of Kobe's clutch FT shooting

RS

2000: 94.4%
2001: 87.2%
2002: 83.3%
2003: 82.4%
2004: 85.0%
2005: 81.2%
2006: 82.9%
2007: 82.3%
2008: 84.5%
2009: 91.5%
2010: 82.6%
2011: 87.2%
2012: 79.5%
2013: 83.6%
2015: 79.2%
2016: 90.9%

Playoffs

2000: 75.0%
2001: 84.6%
2002: 80.0%
2003: 84.2%
2004: 83.3%
2006: 75.0%
2007: 100% - shouldn't put much stock into the 06 & 07 ones since it's just 1 round
2008: 90.5%
2009: 81.0%
2010: 87.0%
2011: 50% - only took 0.5 FTA in 4 games that fit the criteria, according to NBA.com's stats page
2012: 100%

That's the difference between an average and an actual clutch FT shooter. Lebron's not terrible and he certainly had his highs, but he's not clutch if we look at his career as a whole and what he's been doing recently.

[RRR3]

^seething

[ImKobe]

^seething

Posting data = seething

Oh yes, why provide actual statistics when we can just insult eachother and speak in generalities like the shows on ESPN/Fox.

Let's look at Lebron's FT shooting, up/down within 5, last 2 minutes

RS

2004: 68.4%
2005: 83.3%
2006: 69.2%
2007: 65.1%
2008: 82.5%
2009: 82.1%
2010: 74.5%
2011: 84.8%
2012: 73.1%
2013: 75.0%
2014: 88.9%
2015: 80.0%
2016: 72.4%
2017: 78.6%
2018: 57.1%
2019: 65.4%
2020: 62.5%

Playoffs

2006: 78.6% - 9 games, 1.6 FTA, was clutch in the Wizards series
2007: 58.3% - 13 games, 0.9 FTA
2008: 25.0% - 7 game, 0.6 FTA, wouldn't put much stock into this
2009: 71.4% - just 5 games at 1.4 FTA, but he missed some crucial ones in the Orlando series
2010: 75.0% - 4 games, 1.0 FTA
2011: 100%, - but it says 0.1 FTA in 13 games, so it's just 1 FT
2012: 63.6% - 10 games at 1.1 FTA, legitimate sample size
2013: 83.3% - 9 games, 0.7 FTA
2014: 72.7% - 6 games, 1.8 FTA
2015: 85.7% - 11 games, 1.3 FTA
2016: 50.0% - small sample size, but we do remember him going 1/2 in the biggest moment
2017: 57.1% - 12 games, 1.0 FTA
2018: 83.3% - 10 games, 0.6 FTA

I mean, does this say "CLUTCH" free throw shooter to you? He's pretty mediocre with some highs and lows, no consistency but he was pretty good in his prime like I said before. Not all-time great by any means.

Let's compare him to Kevin Durant, also +/- 5 points in the last 2 minutes of the 4th

RS

2008: 85.7%
2009: 76.9%
2010: 83.3%
2011: 83.6%
2012: 87.5%
2013: 85.7%
2014: 80.0%
2016: 82.1%
2017: 90.9%
2018: 73.3%
2019: 80.0%

Playoffs

2010: 100% - 3 games 1.3 FTA
2011: 100% - 10 games 0.6 FTA
2012: 85.7% - 13 games 0.5 FTA
2013: 33.3% - 8 games 0.8 FTA
2014: 80.0% - 9 games 0.6 FTA
2016: 100% - 7 games 0.3 FTA
2017: 100% - 2 games 1.0 FTA
2018: 100% - 6 games 1.0 FTA
2019: 100% - 6 games 0.7 FTA

KD had that one low in 2013 when he lost those close games against Memphis, but that's about as automatic as it gets when looking at the amount of highs he's had, been perfect in the majority of his Playoff runs, that's what you call a CLUTCH FT shooter.

[RRR3]

^meltdown

[ImKobe]

Let's look at Stephen Curry, last 2 minutes +/- 5 points in the 4th

RS

2010: 87.0%
2011: 84.6%
2012: 87.5%
2013: 88.0%
2014: 100% - 36 games, 0.6 FTA
2015: 92.6%
2016: 93.8%
2017: 80.0%
2018: 87.5%
2019: 96.0% - 26 games, 1.0 FTA

Playoffs

2013: 100% - 7 games 0.3 FTA
2014: 66.7% - 4 games 1.5 FTA
2015: 83.3%
2016: 100% - 6 games 1.0 FTA
2017: 100% - 3 games 2.0 FTA
2018: 100% - 5 games 0.2 FTA
2019: 100% - 13 games 0.8 FTA

That's what you call a "CLUTCH" free throw shooter.

[nikosvault]

Yeah. I guess it would have been a bad look if his comment had 2 comments and one of them picked out many flaws

Sour grapes? Bashing? I merely said its a weak perspective to base your clutch opinion of.


I did not see a single YT comments on the perceived "weakness" of the "5min left / 8pt +/-" criteria. Im starting to doubt you made a comment on the video at all.

So what is that all about? Your attempt at character assassination instead of dealing with the facts/numbers?

I would expect more from a guy with 35.000 comments.

BTW I have only just begun to promote the video. I have done clutch vids in the past. Went pretty well in terms of views.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKDyV404HXs




Most of LeBron's "weak" (mind you he us shooting near average for the criteria since teams as a whole shoot significantly less in such situations) comes from 2015, where he was a one-man band and run down/tired at the end of games.



He was shooting just as bad in 2007, 2011, 2016 and 2017. Just not at the same insane volume.

And 2012 and 2013 are no masterpieces either.




If you would actually adhere to clutch statistics, you would certainly believe LeBron to either be better or more of a cool head than Kobe. Because he outperforms your man across the board.

And if you would pay attention to every shot, it's funny how often LeBron is given the ball with 5 or less seconds on the clock as his teammates (mostly Wade) failed to create and he is asked to bail-out, given no time.

The very thing Kobe fans used to accuse LeBron of not doing. "Kobe takes all the tough late shotclock shots doe".

Pretty vague stuff. The only substantial claim in that comment is that Lebron is statistically better than Kobe if you "adhere to clutch statistics".

I have already collected Kobe's finals numbers. You are wrong.

Kobe

Total FG = 33-85 (39%)

2000 = 6-10
2001 = 4-9
2002 = 3-5
2004 = 5-13
2008 = 4-9
2009 = 7-21
2010 = 4-18

Less than 1 min go go = 9-26 (35%)
Less Than 24 sec. to go = 5-10 (50%)
Less than 10 sec to go = 3-6 (50%)

Lebron

Total FG = 31-91 (34%)

2007 = 4-12
2011 = 2-11
2012 = 5-11
2013 = 7-15
2014 = 1-2
2015 = 5-23
2016 = 1-5
2017 = 0-3
2018 = 6-9

Less than 1 min go go = 9-25 (36%)
Less Than 24 sec. to go = 3-13 (23%)
Less than 10 sec to go = 2-7 (29%)

[Overdrive]

2016: 50.0% - small sample size, but we do remember him going 1/2 in the biggest moment


Absolutely no big Lebron fan, but the most important FTs were this:


Fourth quarter, game 7 of the 2016 Finals with GS up 87-83 and 5:24 to go in the game.

James goes to the line to shoot 3fta

5:24.0 - Shooting foul by F. Ezeli (drawn by L. James) 83-87
5:24.0 - L. James makes free throw 1 of 3 +1 84-87
5:24.0 - L. James makes free throw 2 of 3 +1 85-87
5:24.0 - L. James makes free throw 3 of 3 +1 86-87

:hammertime:

Just, because they were 24s too early for your criteria doesn't mean they weren't clutch. He doesn't make them the Warriors quite possibly gain confidence and win.

[ArbitraryWater]

I did not see a single YT comments on the perceived "weakness" of the "5min left / 8pt +/-" criteria. Im starting to doubt you made a comment on the video at all.

So what is that all about? Your attempt at character assassination instead of dealing with the facts/numbers?

I would expect more from a guy with 35.000 comments.

BTW I have only just begun to promote the video. I have done clutch vids in the past. Went pretty well in terms of views.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKDyV404HXs




He was shooting just as bad in 2007, 2011, 2016 and 2017. Just not at the same insane volume.

And 2012 and 2013 are no masterpieces either.



Pretty vague stuff. The only substantial claim in that comment is that Lebron is statistically better than Kobe if you "adhere to clutch statistics".

I have already collected Kobe's finals numbers. You are wrong.

Kobe

Total FG = 33-85 (39%)

2000 = 6-10
2001 = 4-9
2002 = 3-5
2004 = 5-13
2008 = 4-9
2009 = 7-21
2010 = 4-18

Less than 1 min go go = 9-26 (35%)
Less Than 24 sec. to go = 5-10 (50%)
Less than 10 sec to go = 3-6 (50%)

Lebron

Total FG = 31-91 (34%)

2007 = 4-12
2011 = 2-11
2012 = 5-11
2013 = 7-15
2014 = 1-2
2015 = 5-23
2016 = 1-5
2017 = 0-3
2018 = 6-9

Less than 1 min go go = 9-25 (36%)
Less Than 24 sec. to go = 3-13 (23%)
Less than 10 sec to go = 2-7 (29%)


The volume is everything here.

Those filters are absolute trash.

25 shots out of a 15+year career.

You are deluding yourself to the maximum, and its sad to see from a grown man. A grown man pretending like he can accurately judge the mental state of an athlete using 25 shots for a 17+ year career. Either you are delusional, or extremely, extremely dumb/low IQ.


Check BR for 5 minute and full 4th quarter filters.

Educate yourself.

-4th Q/OT shooting in the NBA Finals:

LeBron: 128/290(44.4%) *
Duncan: 41-104(39.4%) *missing '99
Kobe: 73-187(39.0%)

Kobe is the mentally weakest and most unreliable and un-clutch primetime ATG athlete of the last couple decades

Kobe is a miserable 32/80 in the clutch (an actual sample size)
https://i.gyazo.com/2f3c22fb277c3619c8b77834917e3e45.png
https://i.gyazo.com/f671aaf42a47fb495a9a826270c53bf4.png
https://i.gyazo.com/2319c6c3af294ae24f9567533c116b71.png
https://i.gyazo.com/dc520587729292efadd2ac4fd879efe5.png

[ArbitraryWater]

In the playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 5:00 or less left in quarter, scoring margin between -5 and 0 points

Kobe: 50-130 on 38.4% http://bkref.com/tiny/7artR
LeBron: 80-177 on 45.2% http://bkref.com/tiny/lvdsc



yikes.


Eat that, Kobe tards.

[nikosvault]

The volume is everything here.

Those filters are absolute trash.

25 shots out of a 15+year career.



???

Try 90 shots in the most important basketball games of that athlete's life.

I doubt you would want the 25 shots from 2012 and 2013 removed from the equation.



You are deluding yourself to the maximum, and its sad to see from a grown man. A grown man pretending like he can accurately judge the mental state of an using 25 shots for a 17+ year career. Either you are delusional, or extremely, extremely dumb/low IQ.



Well, I certainly see now that this forum is not for grown men. 35.000 comments of this quality would suggest that.

Carry on.



Check BR for 5 minute and full 4th quarter filters.

Educate yourself.

-4th Q/OT shooting in the NBA Finals:

LeBron: 128/290(44.4%) *
Duncan: 41-104(39.4%) *missing '99
Kobe: 73-187(39.0%)

Kobe is the mentally weakest and most unreliable and un-clutch primetime ATG athlete of the last couple decades

Kobe is a miserable 32/80 in the clutch (an actual sample size)
https://i.gyazo.com/2f3c22fb277c3619c8b77834917e3e45.png
https://i.gyazo.com/f671aaf42a47fb495a9a826270c53bf4.png
https://i.gyazo.com/2319c6c3af294ae24f9567533c116b71.png
https://i.gyazo.com/dc520587729292efadd2ac4fd879efe5.png

I see. The entire 4th is now clutch. Whatever fits your argument I guess.

And how does Kobe make 33 of 85 shots in the last 5 minutes of the finals (game within 8 points even eliminates his 2008 G2 near comeback that included 3 made baskets and no misses), yet your BR screenshots/stats is dreaming up this 18/80 number.

How can I trust any of your stats after that?

And those highlighted Lebron stats are the stuff that the 8+/- criteria thankfully eleminates. Stuff like his statpadding at the end of G4 vs the Spurs in 2013 and G4 vs the Warriors in 2016.

Au revoir.

[nikosvault]

In the playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 5:00 or less left in quarter, scoring margin between -5 and 0 points

Kobe: 50-130 on 38.4% http://bkref.com/tiny/7artR
LeBron: 80-177 on 45.2% http://bkref.com/tiny/lvdsc



yikes.


Eat that, Kobe tards.

In the span of 3 posts in 1 hour you have jumped between the entire 4th being clutch to 3 min. to 5 minutes.

And of course you can't do without including all those series against trash EC teams.

Im sure Lebron clutch stats against the 2013 Milwaukee Bucks are legendary.

[nikosvault]

Kobe is a miserable 32/80 in the clutch (an actual sample size)


Oh I have sorted though the mess. You mean Kobe is 32-80 (40%) in the clutch if these criteria applies...


"In all years, in the playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 2:00 or less left in quarter, scoring margin between -3 and 3 points, sorted by descending Field Goals"


Lebron with those same criteria is 45-115 (39fg%)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=2&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-3&margin_max=3&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=fg

Still miserable?

You sure taught me a lesson there.

[ImKobe]

In the playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 5:00 or less left in quarter, scoring margin between -5 and 0 points

Kobe: 50-130 on 38.4% http://bkref.com/tiny/7artR
LeBron: 80-177 on 45.2% http://bkref.com/tiny/lvdsc



yikes.


Eat that, Kobe tards.

The issue here is that Kobe's data is incomplete. No stats on the 2000 Playoffs

Found a good source

https://defpen.com/myths-kobe-bryant/



But fourth quarter stats can be misleading, right? Who knows if he was just putting up numbers in the fourth when the game was already decided? When using the NBA’s definition of clutch, the last five minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime, when the score is within five points, we find an interesting result. All stats are per 36 minutes, requiring at least 10 minutes played in clutch situations, and TS% requires a minimum of 15 FGA in clutch situations

https://defpen.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Screen-Shot-2017-06-03-at-3.01.08-PM.png

Also, more on Kobe's Playoff numbers


I posted some clutch stats for the playoffs, and I decided to do some more.

I was criticized for using five minutes and margin of five, people also told me to add playmaking as part of the equation.

I do admit creating for your teammates is a huge factor in clutch situations, so I decided to add assists per 36 and turnovers per 36.

"Clutch" is 2 minutes left with margin of 3 in playoffs,

I will be only talking about Lebron and Kobe, considering these two were heads and shoulders beyond everyone else for their efficiency and volume.

Playoffs:

Lebron

He is 40/106 in clutch situation

His free throw shooting is 49/67

True Shooting is, 49.8%

Assist per 36: 4.2 assists

Turnovers per 36: 4.2 turnovers

Kobe

He is 40/96 in clutch situations.

His free throw shooting is 67/79

His true shooting is 58 %

Assists per 36: 4.3 assists

Turnovers per 36: 1.7 turnovers

Finals: Last 2 minutes, margin of 3.

Lebron

He is 4/23 in clutch situations

His free throw shooting is 10/14

His true shooting is 31%

Assists per 36: 3.7 assists

TO per 36: 3.7 TO

Kobe

He is 10/20 in clutch situations

His free throw shooting is 4/5

His true shooting is 56.4%

Assists per 36: 7.5 assists

TO per 36: 1.5 TO

Finals: Last 5 minutes, margin of 5.

Lebron

17/62 in clutch situations in the finals.

32% EFG

43% TS.

Assists per 36: 4.26

TO per 36: 3.1

Kobe

28/63 in clutch situations in the finals.

46% EFG

53% TS.

Assists per 36: 3.6

TO per 36: 1.08

Tbh, I wasn't surprised about the field goals considering Kobe is the much better shooter in the playoffs, but I was shocked to see Kobe as the better playmaker and distributor in crunch time.

Thoughts?

Edit: all sources are from NBA.com


It's hilarious how fast you guys move on from FTs to actual scoring in a thread that claims Lebron is some clutch FT shooter. Looks like Kobe was better at passing and not turning the ball over in big moments as well.

[RRR3]

Let's look at Stephen Curry, last 2 minutes +/- 5 points in the 4th

RS

2010: 87.0%
2011: 84.6%
2012: 87.5%
2013: 88.0%
2014: 100% - 36 games, 0.6 FTA
2015: 92.6%
2016: 93.8%
2017: 80.0%
2018: 87.5%
2019: 96.0% - 26 games, 1.0 FTA

Playoffs

2013: 100% - 7 games 0.3 FTA
2014: 66.7% - 4 games 1.5 FTA
2015: 83.3%
2016: 100% - 6 games 1.0 FTA
2017: 100% - 3 games 2.0 FTA
2018: 100% - 5 games 0.2 FTA
2019: 100% - 13 games 0.8 FTA

That's what you call a "CLUTCH" free throw shooter.
He’s already the best FT shooter of all time you absolute bellend.

[ImKobe]

He’s already the best FT shooter of all time you absolute bellend.

I wanted to show you what an actual CLUTCH FT shooter looks like. Guys like Kobe, Durant, Kawhi, Curry, Harden etc all consistently shoot 80+% in these situations over their careers while Lebron's below 70% way too often. He's not a great FT shooter. It's fine to admit that.

[RRR3]

Damn it’s almost like those guys are 80%+ from the line in the first place.

[ImKobe]

Damn it’s almost like those guys are 80%+ from the line in the first place.

Yes, and they prove to be consistent in crunch time over their entire careers when taking those shots, Lebron isn't. Thus, Lebron is not a clutch FT shooter.

[RRR3]

^steaming

[FireDavidKahn]

I'mKobe so mad that he is putting qualifiers on everything.

Can you get the clutch stats on every game he played on Wednesday that was between 6:30-7:00pm while the arenas were sold out of pretzels?

That'll tell us the real story.

[Stanley Kobrick]

I'mKobe so mad that he is putting qualifiers on everything.

Can you get the clutch stats on every game he played on Wednesday that was between 6:30-7:00pm while the arenas were sold out of pretzels?

That'll tell us the real story.
:lol

[ImKobe]

I'mKobe so mad that he is putting qualifiers on everything.

Can you get the clutch stats on every game he played on Wednesday that was between 6:30-7:00pm while the arenas were sold out of pretzels?

That'll tell us the real story.

Well, I gave you crunch time numbers that are used regularly on this site.. why is it that everyone else is consistently in the 80-90 range while Lebron's below 70% in almost half his seasons? How is he CLUTCH when he's below-average in many cases?

[RRR3]

^Boiling

[FireDavidKahn]

Well, I gave you crunch time numbers that are used regularly on this site.. why is it that everyone else is consistently in the 80-90 range while Lebron's below 70% in almost half his seasons? How is he CLUTCH when he's below-average in many cases?

How about when more then 50 hamburgers are being sold every hour?

[LAmbruh]

FireDavidKahn has risen to supreme LeFam general the past few weeks, slaughtering haters left and right


Very impressed brother :applause:

[warriorfan]

Damn it’s almost like those guys are 80%+ from the line in the first place.

My bran, waaah.

[FireDavidKahn]

FireDavidKahn has risen to supreme LeFam general the past few weeks, slaughtering haters left and right


Very impressed brother :applause:

I always make sure that LeFam has a well stocked refrigerator

[Neal Romer]

:hammertime:

[Full Court]

LeClutch :bowdown:


^seething


^meltdown


^steaming


^Boiling

Biggest takeaway from this thread: RRR3 is intellectually incapable of making an actual argument, so he responds to facts in the manner displayed above.

:roll: What an idiot. No wonder his basketball IQ is the laughingstock of this entire board.

[Neal Romer]

Biggest takeaway from this thread: RRR3 is intellectually incapable of making an actual argument, so he responds to facts in the manner displayed above.

:roll: What an idiot. No wonder his basketball IQ is the laughingstock of this entire board.


Well I wont argue with you there.


But Lebron is still that dude :pimp: