View Full Version : LeBron should be fresh and 100% for the 2020-2021 Season.. No excuses
TheImmortal
03-20-2020, 03:19 AM
With all the time in the world this is pretty much like a mini retirement and he should be fresh for another season with several months off and load management. I don't want to hear wear and tear.. mileage or any of that. He took time off and was able to build up his body through advanced treatments and the like. Should be good to go zero excuses for next season.
Pipes2.0
03-20-2020, 03:33 AM
Only the GOATs are held to these ridiculously high standards.
8 straight finals. Thousands of minutes logged. Year 17.
We are witnessing greatness :applause:
MrFonzworth
03-20-2020, 03:42 AM
Only the GOATs are held to these ridiculously high standards.
8 straight finals. Thousands of minutes logged. Year 17.
We are witnessing greatness :applause:
I agree Pipes2.0
Stanley Kobrick
03-20-2020, 04:07 AM
he has to carry the burden of Kobe's death on his shoulders, it will be the hardest obstacle to overcome
he has to carry the burden of Kobe's death on his shoulders, it will be the hardest obstacle to overcome
But why? Did kobe ever literally left him with something to carry behind?
Wally450
03-20-2020, 09:43 AM
Yea its not like the other 300 players won't get time to recover either. :rolleyes:
3ball
03-20-2020, 10:19 AM
He'll be too old - you guys have erroneously been looking at seasons played instead of AGE
no perimeter player is consistently or "on-call" dominant past 35 years old. It's humanly impossible
Lebron will crater in 2021 and all media will immediately abandon him.. talk of being #2 all-time will dissapate to a distant whisper.. people will eventually say "top 10" to be safe as Giannis/Kawhi continue and KD comes back for an encore - 1 ring by KD and its over
ImKobe
03-20-2020, 02:20 PM
How did Lebron miss the Playoffs with Anthony Davis?
FKAri
03-20-2020, 02:54 PM
He'll be too old - you guys have erroneously been looking at seasons played instead of AGE
no perimeter player is consistently or "on-call" dominant past 35 years old. It's humanly impossible
Lebron will crater in 2021 and all media will immediately abandon him.. talk of being #2 all-time will dissapate to a distant whisper.. people will eventually say "top 10" to be safe as Giannis/Kawhi continue and KD comes back for an encore - 1 ring by KD and its over
Which is precisely why LeGod is the one to buck the trend.
3ball
03-20-2020, 04:20 PM
Which is precisely why LeGod is the one to buck the trend.
No re-read my post because thats what will happen just like I predicted Ingram
This is one of those things I've known for a while and its intuitive anyway - a 40-year old won't jump as high or run as fast as a 30-year old regardless of how many games or seasons have been played.. Age has always been the factor that drives decline
3ball
03-20-2020, 05:18 PM
No re-read my post because thats what will happen just like I predicted Ingram
This is one of those things I've known for a while and its intuitive anyway - a 40-year old won't jump as high or run as fast as a 30-year old regardless of how many games or seasons have been played.. Age has always been the factor that drives decline
In other words, it's ova mf's!
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PP34Deuce
03-20-2020, 05:34 PM
For lebron haters to be grasping at straws speaks to his longevity. Lebron's north south ability won't dissappear for another 2 years though. Karl Malone was beating bigs down the court at 37 and Lebron is faster. Where Lebron will decline is moving laterally. The strength will maintain and the speed will go half a step but his half step is still going to be faster than most. His brain and reflexes are going to compensate for missing speed.
Lebron severely declining will be from him getting tired of the basketball grind.
Turbo Slayer
03-20-2020, 05:35 PM
For lebron haters to be grasping at straws speaks to his longevity. Lebron's north south ability won't dissappear for another 2 years though. Karl Malone was beating bigs down the court at 37 and Lebron is faster. Where Lebron will decline is moving laterally. The strength will maintain and the speed will go half a step but his half step is still going to be faster than most. His brain and reflexes are going to compensate for missing speed.
Lebron severely declining will be from him getting tired of the basketball grind. Nah. LeBron is a goner after this season. He done for.
He will fade away like dust in a wind. Thats my guess. :(
FireDavidKahn
03-20-2020, 05:40 PM
But why? Did kobe ever literally left him with something to carry behind?
The Lakers legacy.
3ball
03-20-2020, 05:40 PM
For lebron haters to be grasping at straws speaks to his longevity. Lebron's north south ability won't dissappear for another 2 years though. Karl Malone was beating bigs down the court at 37 and Lebron is faster. Where Lebron will decline is moving laterally. The strength will maintain and the speed will go half a step but his half step is still going to be faster than most. His brain and reflexes are going to compensate for missing speed.
Lebron severely declining will be from him getting tired of the basketball grind.
The reason MJ was still scoring champ and MVP of everything at 34-35 is because he made 700+ jumpshots (250 more than Curry or Lebron's highest volume season) at better effective fg% than Lebron's best jumpshooting season - simply put, he became a goat jumpshooter, THE goat mid-range jumpshooter, turnaround and pull-up jumpshooter - 3 straight scoring titles shooting mostly jumpers
Lebron's jumper is broke by comparison and I wouldn't call those flat-footed threes "jump" shots, so don't expect him to be great like MJ once he's LeSlow next year
The Lakers legacy.
Was he ever a real laker in the first place though?
FireDavidKahn
03-20-2020, 06:05 PM
Was he ever a real laker in the first place though?
Well he is responsible for AD demanding a trade to the Lakers and was on the way towards bringing them a championship this year...Because of him the Lakers got another in prime superstar for the long term.
Turbo Slayer
03-20-2020, 06:08 PM
Well he is responsible for AD demanding a trade to the Lakers and was on the way towards bringing them a championship this year...Because of him the Lakers got another in prime superstar for the long term.
He was never a ''real ass'' laker. Stop it, man.
He was never a ''real ass'' laker. Stop it, man.
I concur.
3ball
03-20-2020, 06:09 PM
Well he is responsible for AD demanding a trade to the Lakers and was on the way towards bringing them a championship this year...Because of him the Lakers got another in prime superstar for the long term.
AD and everyone lost betting on Lebron
Kobe's 20-year resilience proved a better bet than Lebron's team-hopping, which was bound to have bad timing at some point
superduper
03-20-2020, 06:10 PM
Bran stans are straight up disgusting and shameless
Turbo Slayer
03-20-2020, 06:15 PM
Bran stans are straight up disgusting and shameless Not me tho.
FireDavidKahn
03-20-2020, 06:18 PM
He was never a ''real ass'' laker. Stop it, man.
Magic Johnson sure thought so when he signed LeBron.
And as I told him, we want to get to the championship one day and he could be a big part of leading us back to that. That’s it.”
“I asked him what his expectations are, and he said he understood where we were, as an organization, as a team, and what we’re building,” Johnson said. “He was really happy that Rob and I were not rushing, not making mistakes by rushing, and I told him that we had a three-year plan, we had a plan that we wanted to execute and that he could really take that plan to a whole ‘nother level.”
For the Lakers’ planning purposes, James’ decision to sign a deal with three guaranteed seasons and a player option in the fourth is vital.
“I think that (James) had analyzed our roster,” Johnson said. “He had analyzed the situation, and so he was willing to say, ‘Hey, I’m going to make a long-term commitment to the Laker organization.’ And so that’s what we needed as an organization. And then also, other players around the league can see that, and they’ll be willing to play with him, and come to the Lakers, because they know he’s going to be here. It also helps our players too, their own mindset that he’s going to be here as well.”
You gonna disagree with Magic?:roll:
Magic Johnson sure thought so when he signed LeBron.
You gonna disagree with Magic?:roll:
Ever wonder why did magic left the lakers as team president after lebron's maiden season with the team?
superduper
03-20-2020, 06:21 PM
Not me tho.
Yeah honestly you're cool :cheers:
FireDavidKahn
03-20-2020, 06:24 PM
Ever wonder why did magic left the lakers as team president after lebron's maiden season with the team?
Look at the results
3ball
03-20-2020, 06:27 PM
Look at the results
Magic is a winner and knows when to dump a loser
Lebron caused chaos the instant he landed in LA and sharpened the downward trajectory the Lakers until the AD setup
Look at the results
Things simply didn't turn out how they're supposed to be?
Turbo Slayer
03-20-2020, 06:39 PM
Yeah honestly you're cool :cheers:
Thanks man. I hope you are doing well in life! Wish you success.
I think you are a genuinely good guy irl. God bless you! :cheers:
FireDavidKahn
03-20-2020, 06:39 PM
Things simply didn't turn out how they're supposed to be?
49-14
Set up long term with a prime superstar
Ya, LBJ destroyed the Lakers:rolleyes::oldlol:
49-14
Set up long term with a prime superstar
Ya, LBJ destroyed the Lakers:rolleyes::oldlol:
No, not that. Again, we're talking about magic here, who still had his position until a year ago when the lakers missed the playoffs for the sixth straight time because of their poor record.
FireDavidKahn
03-20-2020, 06:47 PM
No, not that. Again, we're talking about magic here, who still had his position until a year ago when the lakers missed the playoffs for the sixth straight time because of their poor record.
The same Magic that thought LeBron was worthy of being a Laker that led to what they are today?
The same Magic that thought LeBron was worthy of being a Laker that led to what they are today?
Who else? Magic johnson of course. He left his position in the conclusion of the 2018-19 season.
FireDavidKahn
03-20-2020, 07:13 PM
Who else? Magic johnson of course. He left his position in the conclusion of the 2018-19 season.
Does it matter? Magic is on the Mount Rushmore for Lakers.
Does it matter? Magic is on the Mount Rushmore for Lakers.
Of course. After all, you made some copypasta here that showed he said lebron was a "real" laker or something like that.
FireDavidKahn
03-20-2020, 07:33 PM
Of course. After all, you made some copypasta here that showed he said lebron was a "real" laker or something like that.
Copypasta?
It was MAgic's own words@!:roll:
Copypasta?
It was MAgic's own words@!:roll:
Sorry but i had to use the term because i thought that was a bit long for you to type. 😹
Turbo Slayer
03-20-2020, 07:36 PM
Magic Johnson sure thought so when he signed LeBron.
You gonna disagree with Magic?:roll: First off, LeBron was never drafted by the LAkers so it doesnt makes him ''real''...
I consider LeBron to be a ''real ass'' Cavs player. He delivered the Promise to CLE after 50 yrs of agony without a title. :rockon:
Kobe is a real Laker. He delivered 5 championships banners to LA. LeBron never won a title for the LAkers.
First off, LeBron was never drafted by the LAkers so it doesnt makes him ''real''...
I consider LeBron to be a ''real ass'' Cavs player. He delivered the Promise to CLE after 50 yrs of agony without a title. :rockon:
Kobe is a real Laker. He delivered 5 championships banners to LA. LeBron never won a title for the LAkers.
Yeah, I'd consider kobe a true laker. Even if he was initially drafted by the hornets, he still played his lifetime career in hollywood.
sdot_thadon
03-20-2020, 07:41 PM
Imagine thinking that someone's 17th, let alone 18th season or beyond is somehow make or break for his legacy? If that's not a goat candidate, what is?
Turbo Slayer
03-20-2020, 07:41 PM
Yeah, I'd consider kobe a true laker. Even if he was initially drafted by the hornets, he still played his lifetime career in hollywood. :cheers:
Imagine thinking that someone's 17th, let alone 18th season or beyond is somehow make or break for his legacy? If that's not a goat candidate, what is?
Lebron will mostly be remembered as the player of the 10s decade, even with his shortcomings. No doubt about that. However, since he is playing in a laker uniform now, he doesn't need to inform the whole world that he's now burdened to continue the legacy of the late legend kobe bryant just because of that tragic happening last january. They all each have their own legacies to build and leave. Nothing more, nothing less.
sdot_thadon
03-20-2020, 08:05 PM
I agree. I just can't begin to grasp how someone can have make or break legacy moments for a solid decade....
Lebron's done the work, his legacy is worthy of any conversation you'd like to place him in. Anything he does to this point just bolsters what's already there.
3ball
03-20-2020, 08:12 PM
I agree. I just can't begin to grasp how someone can have make or break legacy moments for a solid decade....
Lebron's done the work, his legacy is worthy of any conversation you'd like to place him in. Anything he does to this point just bolsters what's already there.
He isn't worthy of goat conversation because no one is close to MJ's resume in 3-pointer basketball/modern era/2-way basketball, so no one can realistically lay claim to being superior when their resume is so far inferior
#1 all time in PPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, clutch, rings as best player in modern era, Finals record (team ceiling), 2-way seasons (1st team all-nba and 1st team defense)
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