all-time finals MVP leaders NBA history

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sorry if this is a bit repetitive guys - I'm just a huge fan of this photo. its one of my favorite sports images of all-time.


absolute cream of the crop right here, not a single scrub capable of sneaking into an all-time stat like this:

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[MaxPlayer]

Now show how many each has against 73-win teams.

Bonus points for erasing a 3-1 deficit and leading both teams in all statistical categories.

[ImKobe]

Lebron missed the Playoffs...

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Now show how many each has against 73-win teams.

Bonus points for erasing a 3-1 deficit and leading both teams in all statistical categories.

is something like that even possible?



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[Lebron23]

4th finals mvp in the coronavirus era.

[MaxPlayer]

4th finals mvp in the coronavirus era.

Would be the GOAT chip considering the circumstances

[aj1987]

Lebron missed the Playoffs...

Kobe missed the PO's during his PEAK.

[LAmbruh]

The only player to win MVP's in 3 different decades :applause:


Big. Game. James


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[Manny98]

Get ready to welcome KD to this club next year when he wins FMVP

[red1]

Get ready to welcome KD to this club next year when he wins FMVP

sure buddy.


I'll be the first to embrace KD if he pulls this off:


Now show how many each has against 73-win teams.

Bonus points for erasing a 3-1 deficit and leading both teams in all statistical categories.

[red1]

The only player to win MVP's in 3 different decades


Big. Game. James


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[FireDavidKahn]

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[FireDavidKahn]

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LeThicc

[3ball]

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#1 in PPG, PER, BPM, WS/48, plus/minus, clutch, Finals record (team ceiling), modern era winning

the goat standard

[red1]

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LeThicc

stack. those. wins.

[FireDavidKahn]

stack. those. wins.

Elimination Game James:bowdown::pimp:

[red1]

Elimination Game James:bowdown::pimp:
haters aint got shit - scrawny just like 3ball

[3ball]

Elimination Game James:bowdown::pimp:
Lebron fans believe it's better to win in 7 games than 5 games

Lebron fans think it's better to come from behind than dominate

Lebron fans think it's better to be the underdog and complain about facing the odds, rather than the perennial favorite that never loses

[red1]

3ball is a virgin who sleeps at his mothers house

[Turbo Slayer]

3ball is a virgin who sleeps at his mothers house
:roll:

[3ball]

3ball is a virgin who sleeps at his mothers house
Down the stretch of tight games (last 5 within 5), Lebron shot 41% on 3.0 attempts.per game for his career, compared to 47% on 3.6 attempts for 97' and 98' MJ (20% more attempts on better efficiency)

[red1]

Down the stretch of tight games (last 5 within 5), Lebron shot 41% on 3.0 attempts.per game for his career, compared to 47% on 3.6 attempts for 97' and 98' MJ (20% more attempts on better efficiency)

dude. we've been through this a million times.




















jordan is LITERALLY 1-9 without pippen.

[3ball]

dude. we've been through this a million times.




















jordan is LITERALLY 1-9 without pippen.
Losing in the 8 vs 1 matchup means nothing

Lebron's low seeds were simply lucky to avoid the playoffs in 04', 05' and 19' where they would've faced the same fate.

Instead, Lebron only made the playoffs high seeds/good teams and easy 1st round matchups.. ultimately, his high seeds were beaten by record amount, worse than MJ's 8 seeds

[FireDavidKahn]

Losing in the 8 vs 1 matchup means nothing

Lebron's low seeds were simply lucky to avoid the playoffs in 04', 05' and 19' where they would've faced the same fate.

Instead, Lebron only made the playoffs high seeds/good teams and easy 1st round matchups

Meanwhile JOrdan making the play offs with 30 wins:roll:

[3ball]

Meanwhile JOrdan making the play offs with 30 wins:roll:
That's irrelevant to the point that Jordan's low seeds were unlucky to make the playoffs as 8 seeds with impossible odds, while Lebron's low seeds avoided the playoffs in 04/05/19 so he avoided the impossible 1st Rd matchups...

Regardless, Lebron's high seeds were beaten by record amount, worse than MJ's 8 seeds

[red1]

Losing in the 8 vs 1 matchup means nothing

Lebron's low seeds were simply lucky to avoid the playoffs in 04', 05' and 19' where they would've faced the same fate.

Instead, Lebron only made the playoffs high seeds/good teams and easy 1st round matchups.. ultimately, his high seeds were beaten by record amount, worse than MJ's 8 seeds

dude. everything you've ever posted has been irrational. zero logic and common sense, just embarrassingly goofy fanboy shit. you outright trashed every single one of mj's teammates - compared rodman and grant to varejao and mo williams to pippen :roll:


you're a ****ing joke. so I'll troll you too - MJ never won shit without phil jackson and pippen - phil won 5 rings without MJ. pippen carried the team without MJ, NO problem. :roll:

[3ball]

dude. everything you've ever posted has been irrational. zero logic and common sense, just embarrassingly goofy fanboy shit. you outright trashed every single one of mj's teammates - compared rodman and grant to varejao and mo williams to pippen :roll:


you're a ****ing joke. so I'll troll you too - MJ never won shit without phil jackson and pippen - phil won 5 rings without MJ. pippen carried the team without MJ, NO problem. :roll:
MJ or his clone was needed for all 11 rings

You forget that MJ nearly made the Finals in 89' with a 6 seed before Phil, who inherited a star already on the cusp of the Finals - MJ was the goat candidate in 1990 and Phil was the 1st time nobody coach.. So MJ "made" Phil just like he was making Collins (nearly made Finals in 89' with 6 seed).

Get your facts right so you won't misperceive and overrate Phil like everyone normally does

[Turbo Slayer]

Get your facts right so you won't misperceive and overrate Phil like everyone normally does Phil jackson is overrated?!? What? The man has 11 rings, coach of the year, and has been selected to the allstar game 4X.

[red1]

MJ or his clone was needed for all 11 rings

You forget that MJ nearly made the Finals in 89' with a 6 seed before Phil, who inherited a star already on the cusp of the Finals - MJ was the goat candidate in 1990 and Phil was the 1st time nobody coach.. So MJ "made" Phil just like he was making Collins (nearly made Finals in 89' with 6 seed).

Get your facts right so you won't misperceive and overrate Phil like everyone normally does

Loser. just an absolute disgusting loser.


no pip. no chip bitch.

[3ball]

Phil jackson is overrated?!? What? The man has 11 rings, coach of the year, and has been selected to the allstar game 4X.
MJ or his clone was needed for all 11 rings

You forget that MJ nearly made the Finals with a 6 seed before Phil, so Phil inherited a star already on the cusp of the Finals - indeed, it was MJ who was the goat candidate in 1990 and Phil was the 1st time nobody coach.. So MJ "made" Phil just like he was making Collins (aka nearly made Finals in 89' with 6 seed).

[red1]

mj's record without the GOAT perimeter defender and arguable GOAT second option:




1-9.

[Turbo Slayer]

MJ or his clone was needed for all 11 rings

You forget that MJ nearly made the Finals in 89' with a 6 seed before Phil, so Phil inherited a star already on the cusp of the Finals - indeed, it was MJ who was the goat candidate in 1990 and Phil was the 1st time nobody coach.. So MJ "made" Phil just like he was making Collins (aka nearly made Finals in 89' with 6 seed). I agree with everything you said. :D

But theres one thing I dont understand... How MJ was considered the goat in 1990? Elaborate more.

[3ball]

I agree with everything you said. :D

But theres one thing I dont understand... How MJ was considered the goat in 1990? Elaborate more.
He was a goat candidate

He wasn't considered the actual goat until he could "elevate his teammates" like Bird and Magic did - that was the running narrative at the time... No one cared that his cast was worse - he was expected to "elevate" those shit teammates like Bird and Magic did and damn sure wasn't allowed to team-hop onto a super-team

So people bashed MJ and his scoring until he won a ring, even though all his teammates (Woodridge, Pippen, Grant, BJ) grew by leaps and bounds next to him.. And once they'd grown sufficiently, they won (despite only 1 all-star teammate) and never lost again when mj played a full season

[Turbo Slayer]

He was a goat candidate

He wasn't considered the actual goat until he could "elevate his teammates" like Bird and Magic did - that was the running narrative at the time... No one cared that his cast was worse - he was expected to "elevate" those shit teammates like Bird and Magic did and damn sure wasn't allowed to team-hop onto a super-team

So people bashed MJ and his scoring until he won a ring, even though all his teammates (Woodridge, Pippen, Grant, BJ) grew by leaps and bounds next to him.. And once they'd grown sufficiently, they won (despite only 1 all-star teammate) and never lost again when mj played a full season cool shit. Thumbs up! :banana:

[mr4speed]

sorry if this is a bit repetitive guys - I'm just a huge fan of this photo. its one of my favorite sports images of all-time.


absolute cream of the crop right here, not a single scrub capable of sneaking into an all-time stat like this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClXdOhhWkAA3H_f.jpg

Just wanted to say this photo needs to have Kareem take the place of Magic as KAJ won the finals MVP in 71 and 85 and in 80 after Magic's great game 6, Kareem had the most votes for this award, but because he was not present the voters were asked to change their votes so Magic would win the award. This is covered in the book "Kareem" pages 140 - 141 and tells what happened from the perspective of one of the voters.

[TheCorporation]

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lethicc
goat

[Cyrus334]

mj's record without the GOAT perimeter defender and arguable GOAT second option:




1-9.

I love how people use this stat as if it's supposed to mean anything now that everyone knows that this only accounted for three playoff series, those being MJ's first three in the league lol.

[Da_Realist]

I love how people use this stat as if it's supposed to mean anything now that everyone knows that this only accounted for three playoff series, those being MJ's first three in the league lol.

...and spread out over a 3 year period. Most of these kids seem to like being idiots.

[superduper]

I love how people use this stat as if it's supposed to mean anything now that everyone knows that this only accounted for three playoff series, those being MJ's first three in the league lol.

You can tell the low IQs pretty quickly.

The fact that they EXPECT a rookie Jordan to beat a prime Bird just shows me they think Jordan's the GOAT :oldlol:

[TheCorporation]

You can tell the low IQs pretty quickly.

The fact that they EXPECT a rookie Jordan to beat a prime Bird just shows me they think Jordan's the GOAT :oldlol:

His career has a divison

With Pip
No Pip

Want to see the #s?

[Celtics 1825]

Just wanted to say this photo needs to have Kareem take the place of Magic as KAJ won the finals MVP in 71 and 85 and in 80 after Magic's great game 6, Kareem had the most votes for this award, but because he was not present the voters were asked to change their votes so Magic would win the award. This is covered in the book "Kareem" pages 140 - 141 and tells what happened from the perspective of one of the voters.
That's not how this works buddy. Take the L

[LostCause]

The only player to win MVP's in 3 different decades :applause:

What does “decade “ mean to you?

[Manny98]

You can tell the low IQs pretty quickly.

The fact that they EXPECT a rookie Jordan to beat a prime Bird just shows me they think Jordan's the GOAT :oldlol:
Baby LeBron took his team to the finals at the age of 22 so what's baby Jordans excuse for failing to take his team past the first round for 3 consecutive years :confusedshrug:

[Da_Realist]

Baby LeBron took his team to the finals at the age of 22 so what's baby Jordans excuse for failing to take his team past the first round for 3 consecutive years :confusedshrug:

All time great competition in his conference.

[red1]

I love how people use this stat as if it's supposed to mean anything now that everyone knows that this only accounted for three playoff series, those being MJ's first three in the league lol.

Im just talking shit to idiots like 3ball who are completely biased and irrational. I actually rank MJ as the GOAT because of his godly scoring ability, mentality, defense and overall package.


pound for pound on the court lebron is every bit as good even though they are completely different as players. lebron is the GOAT of the modern era and the 2nd GOAT overall. MJ will get the GOAT nod because he deserves it.

[Axe]

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[red1]

nike was right - he did it. it was a safe bet.

he did it. he came through for his fans.


good job bro.


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[Manny98]

All time great competition in his conference.
No the only atg competition was the Celtics and if MJ did a LeBron and won 50 games he wouldn't have to face them in the first round

[Da_Realist]

No the only atg competition was the Celtics and if MJ did a LeBron and won 50 games he wouldn't have to face them in the first round

You're talking out your ass. You have no clue about anything before 5 years ago. Maybe. The 80's East might have been the toughest conference in history. 4 teams winning at least 50 games was the norm. Lebron's conference in 2007 just had 2. The best team in MJ's 80's conference won 60+ games. The best team in LeBron's 2007 East won 53 games. That would have been only good for 4th place in the East in 84/85, 4th place in 85/86 and 3rd place in 86/87.

[Phoenix]

No the only atg competition was the Celtics and if MJ did a LeBron and won 50 games he wouldn't have to face them in the first round

MJ won 50 games in 88 and ended up facing the Pistons, who would have taken apart the 2007 Cavs. Basically the 88-90 Pistons and 85-87 Celtics would handily beat Lebron's Cavs teams. The only team he faced on that level in the east was the Celtics and he lost to them twice before teaming up with Wade to take them down when the key players were in their mid 30's.

[Mr Feeny]

Kawhi can join that 3fmvp group with another one if the season resumes.

[red1]

Kawhi can join that 3fmvp group with another one if the season resumes.

kawhi will definitely get another ring with the clippers. in fact I think lebron is destined for another ring as well, making them both the only players to win finals MVPs on three different teams :eek:

[FromDowntown]

Kawhi can join that 3fmvp group with another one if the season resumes.

What with his degenerative quad and knee? He better pray that Paul George stays healthy and Montrezl Harrell stays with the Clippers , he is an UFA after 2020

[FromDowntown]

No the only atg competition was the Celtics and if MJ did a LeBron and won 50 games he wouldn't have to face them in the first round

+1

Imagine rewarding MJ for getting a low seed :lol

DONT WORK THAT WAY BABY BOI Da_Realist

[mr4speed]

That's not how this works buddy. Take the L
Kareem was cheated out of the award that he fairly won. He was the reason LA won the other 3 games. 3 games > 1 game and the award should be in Kareem's trophy case. This never happened to any other player and when people start these lists, many do not even know what happened. When the voters are asked and pressured to change their votes, that is fraud. Kareem deserves some respect here, just sayin...

[SamuraiSWISH]

MJ won 50 games in 88 and ended up facing the Pistons, who would have taken apart the 2007 Cavs. Basically the 88-90 Pistons and 85-87 Celtics would handily beat Lebron's Cavs teams. The only team he faced on that level in the east was the Celtics and he lost to them twice before teaming up with Wade to take them down when the key players were in their mid 30's.

:oldlol::cheers:

[red1]

:oldlol::cheers:

hey man celtics ganged up on him twice so it was only fair that he even the odds. ended up getting a ring the second year they played in 2012 and went 2-2 overall, so miami was a good move.


cant win much with mike brown and mo williams. going from mike brown and mo williams to pat riley and dwyane wade - that's like going from a hyundai to a ferrari.