"It's just a sore throat bro"

[LAmbruh]

"quit overreacting bro"





https://i.postimg.cc/FFfbVCnn/fgjhfgjfgy.png (https://postimg.cc/QV3WXmDp)

[Smoke117]

Now post the average age of death. It's probably something like 72.

[LAmbruh]

lololol


"bro, it's just old people like your mom n pops that die"


"you guys are being divas"



https://i.postimg.cc/mgv53jJW/cfghjfgjfgv.png

[Overdrive]

Alcoholics are at bigger risk.

[Nanners]

150,000 people die every day on this earth, 2/3 of them for age related reasons like this

[Stanley Kobrick]

calm down it's just a prank bro

[LAmbruh]

150,000 people die every day on this earth, 2/3 of them for age related reasons like this

lolololol



"lots of people die from car accidents too"



"where's the panic for car safety bro"

[MrFonzworth]

We don't even know if this thing is real or not. Where's the evidence?

[scuzzy]

How come we never hear about survivors and only deaths. Another liberal hoax to condemn Trump and every country is in on it :facepalm


Dems fear mongering just like their global warming deep state scheme.

[MrFonzworth]

Weird how South Korea, the homosexual country of the world, handled this "virus" like it was nothing. Their economy is back to booming again

Meanwhile big bad white man USA is falling right before our eyes.

[n00bie]

Simple. People in Korea took this seriously. People in the U.S. think "it's just a flu bruh"

[tpols]

Simple. People in Korea took this seriously. People in the U.S. think "it's just a flu bruh"

Japan hasnt even shut their economy down and is doing great.

USA's biggest problem is we're too global. Japan doesnt allow imported visitors.

We need to become less globalized and more self sufficient like T says.

[Axe]

And...

Uncle sam now takes the lead!

[bladefd]

Japan hasnt even shut their economy down and is doing great.

USA's biggest problem is we're too global. Japan doesnt allow imported visitors.

We need to become less globalized and more self sufficient like T says.

They also took it serious early on and took precautions, ramped up testing right away + isolating those infected. We meanwhile took 10 weeks f*cking around/twiddling our thumbs before finally taking it serious. That time we wasted caught up to us faster than we knew what hit us..

[MaxFly]

Meanwhile big bad white man USA is falling right before our eyes.

People (https://news.yahoo.com/orleans-epicenter-coronavirus-mardi-gras-211130247.html) didn't take the outbreak seriously.


Health experts say it's no surprise that New Orleans is the center of the coronavirus crisis in hard-hit Louisiana after over a million people flocked to the city to celebrate Carnival for more than a month, culminating in Mardi Gras at the end of February.

"It is still impossible to know exactly how long the COVID-19 pandemic will impact Louisiana, but what we do know is that we have more cases per capita than every state, except for New York and Washington," Edwards said Tuesday. On Sunday, he issued a stay-at-home order to slow the rapid rise of cases.

[n00bie]

Japan hasnt even shut their economy down and is doing great.

USA's biggest problem is we're too global. Japan doesnt allow imported visitors.

We need to become less globalized and more self sufficient like T says.

If you ever been to an asian country in the last couple of years, you'll notice that everyone wears a facemask. Even when they're not sick. People in the West laugh and judge when they see someone walking around with a face mask.

[Stephonit]

If you ever been to an asian country in the last couple of years, you'll notice that everyone wears a facemask. Even when they're not sick. People in the West laugh and judge when they see someone walking around with a face mask.

This is the only explanation that makes sense to me. The American experts saying you don't need to wear a facemask if you aren't sick sound as if they are only saying it so that more masks become available for health workers.

[BurningHammer]

If you ever been to an asian country in the last couple of years, you'll notice that everyone wears a facemask. Even when they're not sick. People in the West laugh and judge when they see someone walking around with a face mask.
Human being is getting weaker while viruses are keeping mutating and becoming new threats in various ways. Those countries are doing good jobs adapting their ways of life, especially Japan that has the oldest population of Earth.

I guess we here in the West should start adapting too.

[TheMan]

They also took it serious early on and took precautions, ramped up testing right away + isolating those infected. We meanwhile took 10 weeks f*cking around/twiddling our thumbs before finally taking it serious. That time we wasted caught up to us faster than we knew what hit us..
Exactly, and this goes straight to the top whether or not Trump takes responsibility for it, it falls on him. The lazy, cavalier attitude he displayed is now kicking us in the ass. We had time to do something and ultimately did nothing.

This is the consequences of voting for someone not fit for the highest office in the land.

[TheMan]

Human being is getting weaker while viruses are keeping mutating and becoming new threats in various ways. Those countries are doing good jobs adapting their ways of life, especially Japan that has the oldest population of Earth.

I guess we here in the West should start adapting too.
If we don't learn some lessons from this pandemic, we never will.

States need to have a surplus of PPE, there are doctors wearing garbage bags right now in NY ffs because they are low on PPE, in the biggest city of the world's richest nation that should not be happening. There should be stockades of surgical masks to hand out to every citizen and make them mandatory to use also. That helps the infected from being so contagious and also helps from not being infected so easily.

[BurningHammer]

If we don't learn some lessons from this pandemic, we never will.
We have to make sure those who will never learn not getting into power in the future, at least.

[bobopenguin]

They also took it serious early on and took precautions, ramped up testing right away + isolating those infected. We meanwhile took 10 weeks f*cking around/twiddling our thumbs before finally taking it serious. That time we wasted caught up to us faster than we knew what hit us..

lol not sure if u are serious.
Japan has completely failed to take any early precaution. Their numbers of infections are so low cos they didnt even do any testing. They dont wanna do any testing cos they are afraid it will delayed the Olympic.
Every country in Asia region knew Japan fked this one up.
only countries took this viruses very seriously so far are Korea/Taiwan/HK.

[MrFonzworth]

lol not sure if u are serious.
Japan has completely failed to take any early precaution. Their numbers of infections are so low cos they didnt even do any testing. They dont wanna do any testing cos they are afraid it will delayed the Olympic.
Every country in Asia region knew Japan fked this one up.
only countries took this viruses very seriously so far are Korea/Taiwan/HK.

Taiwan and Hong Kong are countries? Huge yikes, both reside in the sweaty part underneath China's balls.

[Facepalm]

This is the only explanation that makes sense to me. The American experts saying you don't need to wear a facemask if you aren't sick sound as if they are only saying it so that more masks become available for health workers.

They wear them to not infect others

[coin24]

Yikes, those stats look like Simons replies to himself count

[Nanners]

On the average day, ~7500 people die in america, about 2/3 of them senior citizens. The 5 most common causes of death for seniors are heart disease, cancer, stroke, chronic respiratory disease, and pneumonia. If you tested every one of the ~5500 seniors who die on the average day for the 30+ known strains of coronavirus (aka common cold), a large number would test positive for at least one strain of corona (some of them would be carrying more than one strain). A large number of these seniors would also test positive for at least one strain of flu. Despite the fact that large numbers of these ~5500 would test positive for strains of corona and influenza, under normal circumstances these viruses would not necessarily be considered to be the actual cause of these deaths. Typically when we define a persons cause of death, what we do is look at the entire sum of a persons life - if you smoked cigarettes for 50 years, got lung cancer, received chemo and a major surgery, and then ultimately died of a staph infection, your cause of death would be cancer brought on by a lifetime of smoking... we certainly would not place 100% of the blame on the staph infection that ultimately ended things. Now consider that 98% of supposed covid victims have at least one pre-existing illness and 50% of victims have 3 or more pre-existing illnesses, and yet all of these deaths are being attributed to the virus.

Currently with covid, we are testing almost all of the ~7500 americans who die every day to see if they have one specific strain of the common cold, and if they test positive we are attributing their death to the virus. Covid was first dected in the US on January 20th, and as of today we have about 730 americans who were "killed" by covid (except the majority of these people were not actually killed by covid, it was simply a contributing factor in their death). Consider that even if you want to use this laughably inflated and flawed method of counting covid deaths, the total number of dead americans who tested positive for covid is only 1/10th of an average daily death toll in this country... in the 66 days since covid was first detected in the US, ~500,000 americans (mostly seniors) have died for other reasons.

Ultimately covid is just a strain of the common cold that happens to be backed by a very slick marketing campaign.

[Kblaze8855]

All of this really just depends on how you wanna spin it. TB still kills well over a million people a year. Malaria about half a million. ****ing diarrhea kills about a million due to the resulting dehydration. It doesnt take much to kill a lot of people when you have a population of 7 billion and most are poor. And as Nanners implied its kinda hard to put numbers on it with so many of the dead already sick and old. When you have 3 things and catch a 4th that makes the others worse...what killed you? If I beat you with a crowbar, another guy stabs you in the chest, you are already 68, fat, and on 4 medications, and another guy comes and shoots you in the back as youre trying to get up from the beating and stabbing.....wouldnt all 3 be charged with murder?

We are charging the shooter and ignoring the fact that the guy probably dies soon anyway.

Its a shitty way to put it but im not sure of a non shitty way to say it.

Obviously...take it serious enough to limit the infection rate of those at risk. Im not saying go out and spread a disease that kills the weak and a few of the strong. Im saying....when 4 things combine to kill you maybe the people telling the truth about it arent evil. Just.....honest.

Honesty can in this case provide a sense of safety that may be problematic since some will refuse to do whats right but still.....

Does that make it wrong to tell the truth? A truth that doesnt help is still true. And its absolutely true that this isnt nearly as devastating as a number of conditions we dont panic over because we are used to them.

The main impact seems to be on the healthcare industry and workers who get overwhelmed taking care of people who will for the most part be fine. And thats an issue. Its serious and does justify reporting.

But like I said....there is truth in the "But what about....." argument.

[Stephonit]

Clearly people here STILL aren't taking it seriously. The appeals to current numbers are silly because EXPONENTIAL GROWTH. A couple of months ago Trump was brushing away the problem because there were only 15 cases. Now there are tens of thousands.

Saying people in their 70s die all the time is just as dumb. We are all fated to die. 100% of us. Does that mean we shouldn't take precautions and avoid high risk activities while alive?

In the past American wars even at their worst didn't kill as many as the flu does each year. Does that mean wars should be treated like the flu? Should the risk of a nuclear war be dismissed because wars in the past don't show the casualty levels a nuclear war would be estimated to cause?

The country is complacent. Americans are spoiled. The country hasn't experienced a true disaster of this potential scale on home soil in a couple of generations. Doctors in ERs are telling you this is different. Yet the denial is still palpable. This will be a bad wake up call.

Then again maybe it won't change anything since people have been rationalizing indifference for years now. It's only a problem for immigrants. It's only a problem for blacks. It's only a problem for the poor. It's only a problem for students. Now it's only a problem for the elderly. It's a problem for anybody but you—until it becomes your problem. Just hope anybody is left who bothers to care when it does.

[diamenz]

Clearly people here STILL aren't taking it seriously. The appeals to current numbers are silly because EXPONENTIAL GROWTH. A couple of months ago Trump was brushing away the problem because there were only 15 cases. Now there are tens of thousands.

Saying people in their 70s die all the time is just as dumb. We are all fated to die. 100% of us. Does that mean we shouldn't take precautions and avoid high risk activities while alive?

In the past American wars even at their worst didn't kill as many as the flu does each year. Does that mean wars should be treated like the flu? Should the risk of a nuclear war be dismissed because wars in the past don't show the casualty levels a nuclear war would be estimated to cause?

The country is complacent. Americans are spoiled. The country hasn't experienced a true disaster of this potential scale on home soil in a couple of generations. Doctors in ERs are telling you this is different. Yet the denial is still palpable. This will be a bad wake up call.

Then again maybe it won't change anything since people have been rationalizing indifference for years now. It's only a problem for immigrants. It's only a problem for blacks. It's only a problem for the poor. It's only a problem for students. Now it's only a problem for the elderly. It's a problem for anybody but you—until it becomes your problem. Just hope anybody is left who bothers to care when it does.

no doubt.

god forbid you have to stay inside for a few weeks with family members and actually have an in depth conversation.

god forbid you have to throw away some of your vices for awhile.

god forbid you have to settle for bodyweight exercises as opposed to your barbell routines @ the gym.

god forbid you miss your yoga class and it throws off your 'zen'.

ffs, america... at least you have your iphones and your netflixxx. learn to make due.

[bobopenguin]

Taiwan and Hong Kong are countries? Huge yikes, both reside in the sweaty part underneath China's balls.

keep on going chinese spy, let everyone see ur true colour~
everyone in the world knows taiwan is a country except commies, and that's u.

[tpols]

On the average day, ~7500 people die in america, about 2/3 of them senior citizens. The 5 most common causes of death for seniors are heart disease, cancer, stroke, chronic respiratory disease, and pneumonia. If you tested every one of the ~5500 seniors who die on the average day for the 30+ known strains of coronavirus (aka common cold), a large number would test positive for at least one strain of corona (some of them would be carrying more than one strain). A large number of these seniors would also test positive for at least one strain of flu. Despite the fact that large numbers of these ~5500 would test positive for strains of corona and influenza, under normal circumstances these viruses would not necessarily be considered to be the actual cause of these deaths. Typically when we define a persons cause of death, what we do is look at the entire sum of a persons life - if you smoked cigarettes for 50 years, got lung cancer, received chemo and a major surgery, and then ultimately died of a staph infection, your cause of death would be cancer brought on by a lifetime of smoking... we certainly would not place 100% of the blame on the staph infection that ultimately ended things. Now consider that 98% of supposed covid victims have at least one pre-existing illness and 50% of victims have 3 or more pre-existing illnesses, and yet all of these deaths are being attributed to the virus.

Currently with covid, we are testing almost all of the ~7500 americans who die every day to see if they have one specific strain of the common cold, and if they test positive we are attributing their death to the virus. Covid was first dected in the US on January 20th, and as of today we have about 730 americans who were "killed" by covid (except the majority of these people were not actually killed by covid, it was simply a contributing factor in their death). Consider that even if you want to use this laughably inflated and flawed method of counting covid deaths, the total number of dead americans who tested positive for covid is only 1/10th of an average daily death toll in this country... in the 66 days since covid was first detected in the US, ~500,000 americans (mostly seniors) have died for other reasons.

Ultimately covid is just a strain of the common cold that happens to be backed by a very slick marketing campaign.

yup... this whole thing is a charade.

and once the cards start falling, all the politicians have to "one up" one another or look heartless / incompetent. total scam.

[n00bie]

yup... this whole thing is a charade.

and once the cards start falling, all the politicians have to "one up" one another or look heartless / incompetent. total scam.

People like you are reason why it's spreading so rapidly.

[warriorfan]

Yikes, those stats look like Simons replies to himself count

:roll:

[tpols]

People like you are reason why it's spreading so rapidly.


ive barely left the house in weeks wfh. only to walk in the park by my house everyday and grab food. theres no where to go.

[ItsMillerTime]

Boris Johnson purposefully got COVID-19 to show everyone this is a Deep State hit job against President Trump!!! It's so obvious guys!!!!

[scuzzy]

On the average day, ~7500 people die in america, about 2/3 of them senior citizens. The 5 most common causes of death for seniors are heart disease, cancer, stroke, chronic respiratory disease, and pneumonia. If you tested every one of the ~5500 seniors who die on the average day for the 30+ known strains of coronavirus (aka common cold), a large number would test positive for at least one strain of corona (some of them would be carrying more than one strain). A large number of these seniors would also test positive for at least one strain of flu. Despite the fact that large numbers of these ~5500 would test positive for strains of corona and influenza, under normal circumstances these viruses would not necessarily be considered to be the actual cause of these deaths. Typically when we define a persons cause of death, what we do is look at the entire sum of a persons life - if you smoked cigarettes for 50 years, got lung cancer, received chemo and a major surgery, and then ultimately died of a staph infection, your cause of death would be cancer brought on by a lifetime of smoking... we certainly would not place 100% of the blame on the staph infection that ultimately ended things. Now consider that 98% of supposed covid victims have at least one pre-existing illness and 50% of victims have 3 or more pre-existing illnesses, and yet all of these deaths are being attributed to the virus.

Currently with covid, we are testing almost all of the ~7500 americans who die every day to see if they have one specific strain of the common cold, and if they test positive we are attributing their death to the virus. Covid was first dected in the US on January 20th, and as of today we have about 730 americans who were "killed" by covid (except the majority of these people were not actually killed by covid, it was simply a contributing factor in their death). Consider that even if you want to use this laughably inflated and flawed method of counting covid deaths, the total number of dead americans who tested positive for covid is only 1/10th of an average daily death toll in this country... in the 66 days since covid was first detected in the US, ~500,000 americans (mostly seniors) have died for other reasons.

Ultimately covid is just a strain of the common cold that happens to be backed by a very slick marketing campaign.

You're trying to redefine your own fine print definition of what it means to die to complications from a disease.

It's no different than someone dying from complications to AIDS and then saying "well HIV akchualy didn't kill them, it was a pneumonia or infections that did. So it doesn't count" No dude they died from AIDS lol. T-Cell count plummets = inability to fight and recover common pathogens.

But more importantly your statistical ways of gauging numbers and comparing them to this pandemic is ass backwards

"X" sample size vs "Y" sample size doesn't fit. A common cold reaches 75% of the world's population each year, Covid-19 hasn't even scratched a 2 digit percentile. The numbers infected and in critical condition will quadruple by Monday

[fsvr54]

I want to smack everyone who doesn't take this seriously. They must be orphans who never received love and care from other humans.

[TheMan]

no doubt.

god forbid you have to stay inside for a few weeks with family members and actually have an in depth conversation.

god forbid you have to throw away some of your vices for awhile.

god forbid you have to settle for bodyweight exercises as opposed to your barbell routines @ the gym.

god forbid you miss your yoga class and it throws off your 'zen'.

ffs, america... at least you have your iphones and your netflixxx. learn to make due.

Is that the porno version of Netflix?

[TheMan]

Nanners has completely gone off the deep end...

[LAmbruh]

Boris Johnson purposefully got COVID-19 to show everyone this is a Deep State hit job against President Trump!!! It's so obvious guys!!!!

lolololol

"SMH Liberal media fear mongering a contained Chinese epidemic for political gains"

>Political leaders and immediate families testing positive

"Dems and Libs faking symptoms for their Big Pharma buddies and inside stock trading"

[Hawker]

no doubt.

god forbid you have to stay inside for a few weeks with family members and actually have an in depth conversation.

god forbid you have to throw away some of your vices for awhile.

god forbid you have to settle for bodyweight exercises as opposed to your barbell routines @ the gym.

god forbid you miss your yoga class and it throws off your 'zen'.

ffs, america... at least you have your iphones and your netflixxx. learn to make due.

Ok boomer

You're 100% right but let's be honest this is what many boomers have said about the the younger generation for awhile now.

I think you can totally take this serious while also doubting a couple methods.

The "social distancing" thing does make sense.

Admitting the facts that many of the people that are dying or experiencing complications are old or with underlying health conditions and young people shouldn't be as worried makes sense too. Of course it can affect younger people but based on data, it's not something to be as alarmed about.

[LAmbruh]

[https://i.postimg.cc/HLzJrN5k/31408-D97-7-E34-4531-AC6-D-E70-CB3-E7-F335.jpg

[TheMan]

[https://i.postimg.cc/HLzJrN5k/31408-D97-7-E34-4531-AC6-D-E70-CB3-E7-F335.jpg

Bright side, this is gonna cost Trump his presidency but unfortunately a lot of people will die and suffer unnecessarily because of his ineptitude.

[SouBeachTalents]

Bright side, this is gonna cost Trump his presidency but unfortunately a lot of people will die and suffer unnecessarily because of his ineptitude.
I honestly don't know if it will. Biden is far from an inspiring candidate, and historically, the incumbent is VERY difficult to knock off. Of the last 5 presidents, 4 served both terms. Even '92 was unusual with a 3rd party candidate receiving such a significant amount of the vote

[Rolando]

Even with all the crazy stuff going, Trump easily wins against Biden. I totally agree. There's no movement or ideas behind Joe's campaign. There's nothing there.

[ZenMaster]

Even with all the crazy stuff going, Trump easily wins against Biden. I totally agree. There's no movement or ideas behind Joe's campaign. There's nothing there.

"I'm a life long politician, I know how to get things done". Great tag line..

[FKAri]

Bright side, this is gonna cost Trump his presidency but unfortunately a lot of people will die and suffer unnecessarily because of his ineptitude.

lmao

[TheMan]

I honestly don't know if it will. Biden is far from an inspiring candidate, and historically, the incumbent is VERY difficult to knock off. Of the last 5 presidents, 4 served both terms. Even '92 was unusual with a 3rd party candidate receiving such a significant amount of the vote
Bro, we're not even close to how bad this is gonna get, Dr Fauci has said millions will get infected and 100,000 to 200,000 will eventually die. People will go from scared to angry, and Trump was way tf too casual for months with his response to a potential outbreak. Anybody with a D next to his/her name will beat this moron come November. Wrecked economy, thousands of dead, what exactly is the reason to keep this goofball as POTUS? Because we personally like him? ROFL

[tpols]

Bro, we're not even close to how bad this is gonna get, Dr Fauci has said millions will get infected and 100,000 to 200,000 will eventually die. People will go from scared to angry, and Trump was way tf too casual for months with his response to a potential outbreak. Anybody with a D next to his/her name will beat this moron come November. Wrecked economy, thousands of dead, what exactly is the reason to keep this goofball as POTUS? Because we personally like him? ROFL

Every western country has reacted in similar timeline.

Shutdowns outside of Asia have all popped up relatively simultaneously so your blame trump bullshit doesnt fly.

This came from China. It is the "chinese virus". And a clear biological weapon that leaked. It's everywhere. But Trump!!!

[hateraid]

Every western country has reacted in similar timeline.

Shutdowns outside of Asia have all popped up relatively simultaneously so your blame trump bullshit doesnt fly.

This came from China. It is the "chinese virus". And a clear biological weapon that leaked. It's everywhere. But Trump!!!

Agreed. US numbers inflated due to size. Recovery rate looking decent. If we recover from this by summer and economy goes up this will look like a bad dream. US is a what have you done for me lately society. By then US will look golden and so will Trump

[warriorfan]

Op is scared with his weakened immune system.

[Axe]

After all, this is just a sore throat that caused 18,000 deaths worldwide. A great philosopher once thought so.

[kabar]

Agreed. US numbers inflated due to size. Recovery rate looking decent. If we recover from this by summer and economy goes up this will look like a bad dream. US is a what have you done for me lately society. By then US will look golden and so will Trump
US numbers aren't inflated due to size, it's inflated due to the exponential nature of the spread of a virus and a terrible delayed response of our government.

[The Iron Fist]

Exactly, and this goes straight to the top whether or not Trump takes responsibility for it, it falls on him. The lazy, cavalier attitude he displayed is now kicking us in the ass. We had time to do something and ultimately did nothing.

This is the consequences of voting for someone not fit for the highest office in the land.He owned the libs though. Plus, in the Covid 19 race, ‘Murcia is WINNING!
Nobody wins like trump. Nobody. He’s the winliest winner of all time.

[The Iron Fist]

Clearly people here STILL aren't taking it seriously. The appeals to current numbers are silly because EXPONENTIAL GROWTH. A couple of months ago Trump was brushing away the problem because there were only 15 cases. Now there are tens of thousands.

Saying people in their 70s die all the time is just as dumb. We are all fated to die. 100% of us. Does that mean we shouldn't take precautions and avoid high risk activities while alive?

In the past American wars even at their worst didn't kill as many as the flu does each year. Does that mean wars should be treated like the flu? Should the risk of a nuclear war be dismissed because wars in the past don't show the casualty levels a nuclear war would be estimated to cause?

The country is complacent. Americans are spoiled. The country hasn't experienced a true disaster of this potential scale on home soil in a couple of generations. Doctors in ERs are telling you this is different. Yet the denial is still palpable. This will be a bad wake up call.

Then again maybe it won't change anything since people have been rationalizing indifference for years now. It's only a problem for immigrants. It's only a problem for blacks. It's only a problem for the poor. It's only a problem for students. Now it's only a problem for the elderly. It's a problem for anybody but you—until it becomes your problem. Just hope anybody is left who bothers to care when it does.
Americans are not spoiled but simply ****ing stupid.

[Axe]

Americans are not spoiled but simply ****ing stupid.
I agree.

[LAmbruh]

Update:


4,600 USA deaths


in only a couple weeks since reaching the US, and quadruple since thread was made


"just a cold bro"


:yaohappy:

[Axe]

Update:


4,600 USA deaths


in only a couple weeks


just a cold bro
"Biggest hoax" 😒

[LAmbruh]

"Biggest hoax" ��

"PEOPLE DIE ALL THE TIME, QUIT PANICKING!" :rant

[bladefd]

Hard to believe how quickly the spins evolved as time went by. I'm keeping an eye on the spin evolution as time passes.

It began as a nothingburger, then a hoax to take down Trump, then just a bad cold, then the flu, then they had it under control, then a vast conspiracy against America, then the cure would be worse than the disease, then chloroquine was the cure the Dems were hiding to raise the death counts as a coup against Trump, then nobody knew about this disease until it was too late, then the President always knew the dangers but he was giving people hope, and then finally blaming the impeachment trial in January for delays in response.

[LAmbruh]

Hard to believe how quickly the spins evolved as time went by. I'm keeping an eye on the spin evolution as time passes.

It began as a nothingburger, then a hoax to take down Trump, then just a bad cold, then the flu, then they had it under control, then a vast conspiracy against America, then the cure would be worse than the disease, then chloroquine was the cure the Dems were hiding to raise the death counts as a coup against Trump, then nobody knew about this disease until it was too late, then the President always knew the dangers but he was giving people hope, and then finally blaming the impeachment trial in January for delays in response.


2022:


"Well to be fair, 6 million jews died during the Holocaust as well"


"whats the big deal?"

[Axe]

Hard to believe how quickly the spins evolved as time went by. I'm keeping an eye on the spin evolution as time passes.

It began as a nothingburger, then a hoax to take down Trump, then just a bad cold, then the flu, then they had it under control, then a vast conspiracy against America, then the cure would be worse than the disease, then chloroquine was the cure the Dems were hiding to raise the death counts as a coup against Trump, then nobody knew about this disease until it was too late, then the President always knew the dangers but he was giving people hope, and then finally blaming the impeachment trial in January for delays in response.
Rofl you just said the same thing here from the other thread.

[Pushxx]

Clearly people here STILL aren't taking it seriously. The appeals to current numbers are silly because EXPONENTIAL GROWTH. A couple of months ago Trump was brushing away the problem because there were only 15 cases. Now there are tens of thousands.

Saying people in their 70s die all the time is just as dumb. We are all fated to die. 100% of us. Does that mean we shouldn't take precautions and avoid high risk activities while alive?

In the past American wars even at their worst didn't kill as many as the flu does each year. Does that mean wars should be treated like the flu? Should the risk of a nuclear war be dismissed because wars in the past don't show the casualty levels a nuclear war would be estimated to cause?

The country is complacent. Americans are spoiled. The country hasn't experienced a true disaster of this potential scale on home soil in a couple of generations. Doctors in ERs are telling you this is different. Yet the denial is still palpable. This will be a bad wake up call.

Then again maybe it won't change anything since people have been rationalizing indifference for years now. It's only a problem for immigrants. It's only a problem for blacks. It's only a problem for the poor. It's only a problem for students. Now it's only a problem for the elderly. It's a problem for anybody but you—until it becomes your problem. Just hope anybody is left who bothers to care when it does.

Well said bro

[bladefd]

Rofl you just said the same thing here from the other thread.

It will get lost there because that thread is massive and no working search if I ever want to find it. This thread is nice and short

[Axe]

It will get lost there because that thread is massive and no working search if I ever want to find it. This thread is nice and short
Oh ok.

[MaxFly]

"I'm a life long politician, I know how to get things done". Great tag line..

One of the narratives that arose after Trump beat Clinton was that though he was inexperienced, naive and often unpresidential in his demeanor and approach, he would quickly rise to the office of President; he would grow to meet the challenges he faces with the same deft as past Presidents. I think it has been made abundantly clear, even before this latest crisis, that it is unlikely he will ever rise or grow to adequately meet the demands of the office. A lot of Americans seem to want someone who has some experience and a modicum of competence again. Go figure...

[Facepalm]

500 dead in nyc in the last 24 hours. Suck it up, it's just the flu tho

[MaxFly]

500 dead in nyc in the last 24 hours. Suck it up, it's just the flu tho

Common cold. They downgraded it to a common cold.

[DoctorP]

Common cold. They downgraded it to a common cold.

:lol

[bladefd]

500 dead in nyc in the last 24 hours. Suck it up, it's just the flu tho

Notice how the people who were claiming it as such are nowhere to be found and no longer parroting that nonsense anymore. Posters like nanners, bronbron, coin24, tpols, manny, pattychewing.. All either nowhere to be found lately or changing their tunes

[DoctorP]

Notice how the people who were claiming it as such are nowhere to be found and no longer parroting that nonsense anymore. Posters like nanners, bronbron, coin24, tpols, manny, pattychewing.. All either nowhere to be found lately or changing their tunes

all of them low iq trolls btw. they are not serious

dudes name is nanner :lol

[Facepalm]

Notice how the people who were claiming it as such are nowhere to be found and no longer parroting that nonsense anymore. Posters like nanners, bronbron, coin24, tpols, manny, pattychewing.. All either nowhere to be found lately or changing their tunes

Manny is sticking to his guns, bless his retarded heart

[DoctorP]

Manny is sticking to his guns, bless his retarded heart

i see manny:


https://youtu.be/qxapDI_r7yg

[hateraid]

I'm split down the middle between the doomsayers like facepalm and the deniers like Manny. People should just stop following social media and the news and stick to just the facts. All I look up is the CDC reports. That's all I need to follow

[ZenMaster]

One of the narratives that arose after Trump beat Clinton was that though he was inexperienced, naive and often unpresidential in his demeanor and approach, he would quickly rise to the office of President; he would grow to meet the challenges he faces with the same deft as past Presidents. I think it has been made abundantly clear, even before this latest crisis, that it is unlikely he will ever rise or grow to adequately meet the demands of the office. A lot of Americans seem to want someone who has some experience and a modicum of competence again. Go figure...

Just about as many people that didn't want him to become president to begin with, yeah go figure...

His supporters still like him as president a lot, and they're happy that he has/is tried to get most of the stuff he talked about when campaigning through.

[Facepalm]

I'm split down the middle between the doomsayers like facepalm and the deniers like Manny. People should just stop following social media and the news and stick to just the facts. All I look up is the CDC reports. That's all I need to follow

I don't think I'm a doomsayer. I believe most of us already have it or will get it and be fine and never even know...however a few of us it will hit like a brick no matter how healthy we are. I'm mostly worried about the economy and my parents. Not too worried for myself, but taking the necessary precautions.

[LAmbruh]

Notice how the people who were claiming it as such are nowhere to be found and no longer parroting that nonsense anymore. Posters like nanners, bronbron, coin24, tpols, manny, pattychewing.. All either nowhere to be found lately or changing their tunes

yep, looks like they retired from playing arm chair doctor :lol


manny still my boy though :pimp:

[Manny98]

500 dead in nyc in the last 24 hours. Suck it up, it's just the flu tho
2017-2018 flu season in the US

900,000 hospitalisations
80,000 deaths

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/last-years-flu-broke-records-for-deaths-and-illnesses-new-cdc-numbers-show/2018/09/26/97cb43fc-c0ed-11e8-90c9-23f963eea204_story.html

So yes, just the flu

[RRR3]

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/4/3/21206044/masks-cloth-coronavirus-cdc-recommendation-guidelines-wear-spread-prevent-covid-19


“Just the flu bro”

[coin24]

yep, looks like they retired from playing arm chair doctor :lol


manny still my boy though :pimp:


Just another day in the basement Isolation ward for you wheels:lol

The facts don't support the hype on this one, the fact that the media has to exaggerate the deaths should tell you something. Our big update was a 95 year old died in a nursing home, the same person no one would give a rats ass about the last few decades yet now it makes the news..
We wouldn't have to "flatten the curve" if the government didn't make cuts every year to the hospital system, yet instead of fixing the problem they're doing $100b each time stimulus packages?

This is a financial reform plain and simple. Yes the virus is a bad version of the flu but the majority who get it barley even get symptoms. Tired of the simps argument of it being passed on to others blah blah, yeah that's the same as the normal flu you retards.

[scuzzy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsVRA485Go0

[warriorfan]

yep, looks like they retired from playing arm chair doctor :lol


manny still my boy though :pimp:

At least we still have you as the wheelchair doctor.

[LAmbruh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsVRA485Go0

bigger dumbass, Dr. Drew or Dr. 'Shew :yaohappy:

[LAmbruh]

Op is scared with his weakened immune system.

https://media.giphy.com/media/5XsZ88E9EDFKg/giphy.gif


At least we still have you as the wheelchair doctor.

https://media.giphy.com/media/5XsZ88E9EDFKg/giphy.gif

don't worry little bud, one of these days you'll make contact


everyone's cheering for you :oldlol:

[highwhey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsVRA485Go0

What an idiot.

[Levity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsVRA485Go0

Lol damn. Painful to watch.

[scuzzy]

Lol damn. Painful to watch.
same, use to be a OG Drew fan from way back when he was on that MTV late show Loveline with Adam Corolla too

shame

[highwhey]

same, use to be a OG Drew fan from way back when he was on that MTV late show Loveline with Adam Corolla too

shame

YUUUUP. as a teenager, huge drew fan.

can't believe he's become a fvcking idiot.

[scuzzy]

YUUUUP. as a teenager, huge drew fan.

can't believe he's become a fvcking idiot.
Don't know what's worse, Dr. Drew being exposed or Bill Nye :(

[FKAri]

Just another day in the basement Isolation ward for you wheels:lol

The facts don't support the hype on this one, the fact that the media has to exaggerate the deaths should tell you something. Our big update was a 95 year old died in a nursing home, the same person no one would give a rats ass about the last few decades yet now it makes the news..
We wouldn't have to "flatten the curve" if the government didn't make cuts every year to the hospital system, yet instead of fixing the problem they're doing $100b each time stimulus packages?

This is a financial reform plain and simple. Yes the virus is a bad version of the flu but the majority who get it barley even get symptoms. Tired of the simps argument of it being passed on to others blah blah, yeah that's the same as the normal flu you retards.

or a lot of these guys are trying to protect their investments and businesses from tanking. It's never "plain and simple" when it comes to deception. There are many possibilities at play.

[coin24]

At least we still have you as the wheelchair doctor.


This is like the olympics for Simon, he's trained his whole life for this self isolation

[Proctor]

Shew has a sore throat but it's from soggy sao

[MaxFly]

Just about as many people that didn't want him to become president to begin with, yeah go figure...

His supporters still like him as president a lot, and they're happy that he has/is tried to get most of the stuff he talked about when campaigning through.

In the margins, among others, are those who voted for him in 2016 because they saw him as a change agent with no record to scrutinize. He now has a pretty dismal record to defend. For instance, his early insistence that this coronavirus thing was a Democratic hoax has aged pretty poorly, but the real problem is his early inaction and inattention reflecting that "it's a hoax" mindset. It's not just words anymore.

[LAmbruh]

Shew has a sore throat but it's from soggy sao

:roll:

[Proctor]

:roll:

Sore throat and diaper rash :roll:

[DoctorP]

:lol just a little fever. no big deal.

nothing a little absinthe cant cure.

[coin24]

Look at Simon and his eunuch house pet proctard, both trying to copy my insults, yikes just how bad were the two of you bullied??

[Smoke117]

Shew has a sore throat but it's from soggy sao

Stop trying to attack everyone else when you are as much a cringe worthy fakkot as the rest. You haven't had a decent goddamn post in about 2 years.

[bladefd]

Full timeline of the Coronavirus, including day to day breakdown.. https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/hell-coming-sold-national-security-163655629.html

I found myself getting angry as I read through. Angry at China, Trump, CDC, WHO, Biden, Senate, House, airlines companies, and people not taking it seriously. I know I'm looking in hindsight but so much incompetence. We completely dropped the ball over and over again. We deserve this.. We all fu<ked up. Now we have to pay our lesson..

[DoctorP]

Stop trying to attack everyone else when you are as much a cringe worthy fakkot as the rest. You haven't had a decent goddamn post in about 2 years.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/fb/c2/2efbc2490bf1bc78d06551cc8aaa449b.gif

time to make the donuts.


by accident.

[DoctorP]

Full timeline of the Coronavirus, including day to day breakdown.. https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/hell-coming-sold-national-security-163655629.html

I found myself getting angry as I read through. Angry at China, Trump, CDC, WHO, Biden, Senate, House, airlines companies, and people not taking it seriously. I know I'm looking in hindsight but so much incompetence. We completely dropped the ball over and over again. We deserve this.. We all fu<ked up. Now we have to pay our lesson..

no. you move on and you fix it. period. dwelling in past mistakes is not productive

[coin24]

Maybe people will learn to stop doing business with scumbag communist China and ignore the corrupt WHO..

[Axe]

Stop trying to attack everyone else when you are as much a cringe worthy fakkot as the rest. You haven't had a decent goddamn post in about 2 years.
Sounds a lot like that red1.

Goddamn hypocrite.

[LAmbruh]

Yesterday 1480 deaths in the US alone


projected 3500 per day on April 15


just a tummy ache

[TheMan]

I'm split down the middle between the doomsayers like facepalm and the deniers like Manny. People should just stop following social media and the news and stick to just the facts. All I look up is the CDC reports. That's all I need to follow
Do you just look at the CDC reports or do you actually listen to their recommendations that this is not your typical flu/cold? BTW, nice backtracking, you also were downplaying this in the beginning :lol

[LAmbruh]

More deaths from Corona in the past 48hrs in the US than the entirety of 9/11 attacks (2,996)

[coin24]

The states is getting hit hard due to your shitty health system and mega amounts of fat diabetic sloths and poor health in general..

Same as Italy and Spain (heavy smokers)


But yeah it's trumps fault:lol

[scuzzy]

Dr Drew has apologised :applause:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkYeoLBmw2Y

[DoctorP]

Drew killed at least 4-5 senior citizens and all he can do is apologize on the internet

[LAmbruh]

Drew killed at least 4-5 senior citizens and all he can do is apologize on the internet

right now the biggest domestic terrorist threat is Covid-19 deniers, far worse than anti-vaxxers


these are the people unknowingly spreading the disease for days to hundreds of victims prior to themselves even showing symptoms, and doing so while spouting misinformation

[DoctorP]

right now the biggest domestic terrorist threat is Covid-19 deniers, far worse than anti-vaxxers


these are the people unknowingly spreading the disease for days to hundreds of victims prior to themselves even showing symptoms, and doing so while spouting misinformation

indeed.

[LAmbruh]

indeed.

we may have to round them up into quarantine ghetto's and possibly even train them off to work camps if worst comes to worst

[DoctorP]

we may have to round them up into quarantine ghetto's and possibly even train them off to work camps if worst comes to worst

drew should be banned from television and forced to watch reruns of his shitty mtv show until he realizes he is an ignoramus

[highwhey]

Dr Drew has apologised :applause:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkYeoLBmw2Y

good for him. humbleness is a very good trait to have.

[scuzzy]

The problem with Dr Drew is he's was knowingly spewing misinformation because he was paid to do so, despite overwhelming evidence. Multiple appearances on Fox

Huge part of the propaganda machine, which words then gets regurgitated by viewers like you see on this site. "just a flu"





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o

[TheMan]

Dr Drew has apologised :applause:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkYeoLBmw2Y
Inexcusable coming from a "doctor".

[TheMan]

right now the biggest domestic terrorist threat is Covid-19 deniers, far worse than anti-vaxxers


these are the people unknowingly spreading the disease for days to hundreds of victims prior to themselves even showing symptoms, and doing so while spouting misinformation

A couple of houses down from mine there's a party happening rn, at least a dozen or so dumbfukks probably spreading the virus around :facepalm

[TheMan]

The problem with Dr Drew is he's was knowingly spewing misinformation because he was paid to do so, despite overwhelming evidence. Multiple appearances on Fox

Huge part of the propaganda machine, which words then gets regurgitated by viewers like you see on this site. "just a flu"





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o

Fox viewers and rightwingers in general are the dumbest kunts in the US.

[DoctorP]

Fox viewers and rightwingers in general are the dumbest kunts in the US.

now thats a bold statement. so many dumbasses across the board.

[Overdrive]

The states is getting hit hard due to your shitty health system and mega amounts of fat diabetic sloths and poor health in general..

Same as Italy and Spain (heavy smokers)


But yeah it's trumps fault:lol

Two weeks ago you said it wasn't a threat at all. Now it's because US citizens are diabetics and Italians are heavy smokers. Sorry that I have to break it to you, but public smoking was forbidden in Italy many years ago and by that the rates of smoking people went down with it.

The countries that have the biggest problems are the ones that reacted way to late with restrictions.

[ZenMaster]

Fox viewers and rightwingers in general are the dumbest kunts in the US.

It's globalist idiot sack of shits like you, who want patch solutions and more rules for everything, that makes the world a worse place than it has potential to be.

[LAmbruh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9E6xQ_ah2A

[RRR3]

Shew has a sore throat but it's from soggy sao
:roll:

Soggy ‘shew!

[LAmbruh]

:roll:

Soggy ‘shew!

:roll:

[Proctor]

:roll:

Soggy ‘shew!

Shewwww

:roll::roll:

[TheMan]

It's globalist idiot sack of shits like you, who want patch solutions and more rules for everything, that makes the world a worse place than it has potential to be.
Nah not really but obviously I struck a nerve with you...keep watching Fox News, retard :oldlol: Just a cold, bro...go lick some door knobs.

[RRR3]

Shewwww

:roll::roll:
I'm tempted to make a thread detailing his absurd fascination with male genitalia. Should I? :oldlol:

[ZenMaster]

Nah not really but obviously I struck a nerve with you...keep watching Fox News, retard :oldlol: Just a cold, bro...go lick some door knobs.

Not at all, I never watch MSM news channels and I've most certainly never said this was just a flew... But nonetheless, it's just a president bro, stop projecting everything bad on in your life on to one man, it's unhealthy, irrational and not an excuse to be a dumb globalist who supports modern day slavery :facepalm

[TheMan]

Not at all, I never watch MSM news channels and I've most certainly never said this was just a flew... But nonetheless, it's just a president bro, stop projecting everything bad on in your life on to one man, it's unhealthy, irrational and not an excuse to be a dumb globalist who supports modern day slavery :facepalm
No, Trump is not at fault for everything wrong in the world, it's not even his fault this CVD-19 bullshit popped up BUT it is his fault for downplaying the potential for a pandemic, the WHO was warning us weeks ahead, Europe was in chaos and Trump was too busy calling it a Democratic hoax. He reacted late, no and if nor buts about it.

As an American, I'm pulling for my president to get his head out of his ass and get the hot spots in America that needs the most help the help they need, I'm rooting for him to lead us out of this mess with the least amount of human deaths and financial ruin but the way he's been fumbling around, I'm not too sure he's up to it.

[Hawker]

Fox viewers and rightwingers in general are the dumbest kunts in the US.

And The US refused kits from WHO right? Did MSNBC tell you that?

The WHO also retweeted that there was no human to human transmission from China.

[TheMan]

And The US refused kits from WHO right? Did MSNBC tell you that?

I can't remember where I heard that but if you're trying to defend Fox News after the downright irresponsible and dangerous way they handled the Covid19 coverage, then you are way too far gone, man. I'll just be wasting my time

[diamenz]

And The US refused kits from WHO right? Did MSNBC tell you that?

The WHO also retweeted that there was no human to human transmission from China.

no one here watches msnbc.

[ZenMaster]

No, Trump is not at fault for everything wrong in the world, it's not even his fault this CVD-19 bullshit popped up BUT it is his fault for downplaying the potential for a pandemic, the WHO was warning us weeks ahead, Europe was in chaos and Trump was too busy calling it a Democratic hoax. He reacted late, no and if nor buts about it.

As an American, I'm pulling for my president to get his head out of his ass and get the hot spots in America that needs the most help the help they need, I'm rooting for him to lead us out of this mess with the least amount of human deaths and financial ruin but the way he's been fumbling around, I'm not too sure he's up to it.

I didn't say everything wrong in the world, just the things wrong in your life.. Anyways..

"Everyone" was downplaying the potential for a pandemic, because no government want to shut down their country unless it's absolutely necessary they have to. That's how our world system works, where the economy and growth is the most important thing derived through new age global opportunities.

Nancy Pelosi says "Come join us in Chinatown"
https://twitter.com/BarrettWilson6/status/1244379830872936448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1244379830872936448&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthepostmillennial.com%2F (https://twitter.com/BarrettWilson6/status/1244379830872936448)

NYC health commissioner Oxiris Bardot telling New Yorkers there is no need to change anything at all: https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/1224043155852537863

And Europe wasn't or isn't in chaos. There are a few outbreak hotspots, just like in the US, but basically everywhere there's a very civilized lockdown going on and the curve is being flattened. People are working from home for the most part and people are trying to enjoy life as much as possible while still acting responsibly.

A few weeks ago, people where talking about millions of American deaths from/with corona virus, but now just a few days ago you laughed at the president for saying it would be a good end result if only 100K-240K ended up dying, so the goal posts have certainly been moved.

As a whole, worldwide, the general response has pretty good, or at least OK all things considered. It could be better, and I'm definitely for that, but that's a discussion about allocation of resources, focus and effort.
Countries have shut down, a lot of companies sent people to work from home at an early time in the process, people are staying mostly at home(streets are dead everywhere). Except for Sweden, they haven't done much on a government level and schools are still open, though many companies have sent people to work from home. They still seem to be OK as well though.

I don't think you can see this though, because you take your information from the US media, the people who mostly write "dead from coronavirus" instead of "dead while having coronavirus", just to put it in your subconsciousness that all these deaths happen only because of the virus and making it all seem a bit worse.

[Hawker]

no one here watches msnbc.

no one here watches FOX either.

All the talking points about the test kits, hoax, pandemic team are word-for-word from MSNBC like sources. Probably from youtube videos like scuzzy posted - Trevor Noah or they "trust" Joe Biden who said it as well.

[Hawker]

I can't remember where I heard that but if you're trying to defend Fox News after the downright irresponsible and dangerous way they handled the Covid19 coverage, then you are way too far gone, man. I'll just be wasting my time

You're happy to trash fox news but refuse to show some humility about how you choose to get your info as well. You didn't even ask whether or not it was true. You "heard it" and since it aligned with your views about Trump you believed it.

I can't argue for or against FOX news as that would require me to actually have watched it.

[diamenz]

no one here watches FOX either.

All the talking points about the test kits, hoax, pandemic team are word-for-word from MSNBC like sources.

i could say the same thing about people's comments here from the right side of the aisle pertaining to fox. it's like tds - it works both ways, ya know.

[Hawker]

i could say the same thing about people's comments here from the right side of the aisle pertaining to fox. it's like tds - it works both ways, ya know.

Nanners and tpols?

[diamenz]

Nanners and tpols?

i'm not gonna start throwing shade on anyone in particular here... i think my generalization will suffice for proving my point.

tribal politics is bad all around. people should always question power, always. even if it is someone that represents their ideology. i give mad credit to longduckdong. he's been real critical of trump lately, even though he still supports him. that's the way it should be. that shit is commendable.

[coin24]

I'm tempted to make a thread detailing his absurd fascination with male genitalia. Should I? :oldlol:

You should probably spend that time exercising instead

[Proctor]

I'm tempted to make a thread detailing his absurd fascination with male genitalia. Should I? :oldlol:
https://i.postimg.cc/4NG0Ht27/shew.png

[LAmbruh]

https://i.postimg.cc/4NG0Ht27/shew.png

https://media.giphy.com/media/ukGm72ZLZvYfS/giphy.gif

[coin24]

https://i.postimg.cc/4NG0Ht27/shew.png

:roll:

Look at wheels' little bitch crying for attention

[MrFonzworth]

https://i.postimg.cc/4NG0Ht27/shew.png

https://media.giphy.com/media/ukGm72ZLZvYfS/giphy.gif

[Facepalm]

https://i.postimg.cc/4NG0Ht27/shew.png

https://media.giphy.com/media/ukGm72ZLZvYfS/giphy.gif

[Docs Orders]

https://i.postimg.cc/4NG0Ht27/shew.png

https://media.giphy.com/media/ukGm72ZLZvYfS/giphy.gif

[Uncle Drew]

https://i.postimg.cc/4NG0Ht27/shew.png

https://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads9/5e8ae7966bb10/5e8ae796651b9-ezgif.com-rotate.gif

[Rocket]

Wow it is obvious a few people here get ALL of their (dis)information from the mainstream media like CNN & MSNBC without realizing those sources are all about pushing narratives rather than just reporting the news. They will tell you A story but never tell you THE story. It was barely a month ago when the left and the media were telling us how racist Trump was for stopping travel from China and that he was overreacting to the Corona virus and all of the sudden they flip the script to non-stop panic all of the time saying Trump is not doing enough. Heck many left wing leaders were telling people to go out in public because it was safe. Nancy Pelosi told people to go on out to Chinatown on 2/24/20. Now it is panic all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFCzoXhNM6c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFCzoXhNM6c

[diamenz]

Wow it is obvious a few people here get ALL of their (dis)information from the mainstream media like CNN & MSNBC without realizing those sources are all about pushing narratives rather than just reporting the news. They will tell you A story but never tell you THE story. It was barely a month ago when the left and the media were telling us how racist Trump was for stopping travel from China and that he was overreacting to the Corona virus and all of the sudden they flip the script to non-stop panic all of the time saying Trump is not doing enough. Heck many left wing leaders were telling people to go out in public because it was safe. Nancy Pelosi told people to go on out to Chinatown on 2/24/20. Now it is panic all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFCzoXhNM6c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFCzoXhNM6c

like i said, don't forget about fox when you mention how bad cnn & msdnc are... kinda kills your credibility when ya don't.

[TheMan]

like i said, don't forget about fox when you mention how bad cnn & msdnc are... kinda kills your credibility when ya don't.
Rocket is amongst the most biased dudes here.

It's true that some in the MSM have done a 180 in coverage of the COVID-19 outbreak but what Fox News did was almost criminally negligent. So much so that there a reports saying that lawyers for the Murdochs are nervous they might be liable for lawsuits if viewers get sick or have died from COVID-19.

[Facepalm]

Wow it is obvious a few people here get ALL of their (dis)information from the mainstream media like CNN & MSNBC without realizing those sources are all about pushing narratives rather than just reporting the news. They will tell you A story but never tell you THE story. It was barely a month ago when the left and the media were telling us how racist Trump was for stopping travel from China and that he was overreacting to the Corona virus and all of the sudden they flip the script to non-stop panic all of the time saying Trump is not doing enough. Heck many left wing leaders were telling people to go out in public because it was safe. Nancy Pelosi told people to go on out to Chinatown on 2/24/20. Now it is panic all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFCzoXhNM6c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFCzoXhNM6c
Think you forgot something


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifKbwDf51bA

[MaxFly]

no. you move on and you fix it. period. dwelling in past mistakes is not productive

There will be time to review our response in the coming months, and in order to do so effectively, we will need to "dwell on past mistakes" for a spell in order to avoid making them again. Currently, the administration feels they have handled this outbreak perfectly. That's a problem.

[ZenMaster]

Think you forgot something


Difference is that Pelosi isn't a news channel, but one of those very smart politicians who supposedly knew about the dangers of this virus and knows much better than the president how to handle such a situation.

@Maxfly who from the administration says the outbreak has been handled perfectly?

[MaxFly]

@Maxfly who from the administration says the outbreak has been handled perfectly?

What score did Trump give himself when asked to rate his response to the outbreak?

[ZenMaster]

What score did Trump give himself when asked to rate his response to the outbreak?

I don't know. But there's a difference between doing something perfectly and best as possible, or under the circumstances. The circumstances being the world we live in, responding perfectly is impossible.

I did hear him say that if deaths could be held between 100-240K deaths, then it "would be a good job". Which has to be true, because people were talking about millions of deaths if nothing was done.

[Facepalm]

Difference is that Pelosi isn't a news channel, but one of those very smart politicians who supposedly knew about the dangers of this virus and knows much better than the president how to handle such a situation.

@Maxfly who from the administration says the outbreak has been handled perfectly?


Ok, well let's listen to the self proclaimed smartest guy in the room


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvE9hCZ-jaU


https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/233352874479306/?t=3

[Stephonit]

I don't know. But there's a difference between doing something perfectly and best as possible, or under the circumstances. The circumstances being the world we live in, responding perfectly is impossible.

I did hear him say that if deaths could be held between 100-240K deaths, then it "would be a good job". Which has to be true, because people were talking about millions of deaths if nothing was done.

10/10 ZenMaster that's the score he gave his handling of this situation. People engage in such bravado because they can get away with it. If you and others are willing to overlook his BS he will lead you into la la land where you will live in blissful ignorance until real life asserts itself. Better hope the latter doesn't happen while you are alive or didn't contribute to your death.

There is a spectrum of outcomes. The fairest way to measure how good the response was is in relation to peers, meaning other countries. If people want to make excuses and water down the standards they can and will do so. But real life does not care about such games. It will deliver its verdict one way or another. People get the government they deserve.

[ZenMaster]

Ok, well let's listen to the self proclaimed smartest guy in the room


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvE9hCZ-jaU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvE9hCZ-jaU

Point is that all politicians in the Western world played it down until they couldn't anymore, because they can't go about creating panic before it's absolutely necessary to shut down. Yes Trump did it more than others and his macho attitude was not suitable for the situation, but it doesn't change the fact that US politicians as whole were downplaying what was coming.

Someone here mentioned a report about the Fox lawyers being worried about lawsuits, well if that has ANY merit, shouldn't you also call it criminal negligence for Nancy Pelosi and Bardot to give such advise in February about attending parades for Chinese new year?

[Facepalm]

Point is that all politicians in the Western world played it down until they couldn't anymore, because they can't go about creating panic before it's absolutely necessary to shut down. Yes Trump did it more than others and his macho attitude was not suitable for the situation, but it doesn't change the fact that US politicians as whole were downplaying what was coming.

Someone here mentioned a report about the Fox lawyers being worried about lawsuits, well if that has ANY merit, shouldn't you also call it criminal negligence for Nancy Pelosi and Bardot to give such advise in February about attending parades for Chinese new year?

Sure, everyone who downplayed it when we already knew the facts deserve criticism. But ask yourself, who has the bigger platform here? Trump/FOX have a MUCH bigger platform than Pelosi. The general public doesn't know what Nancy is saying, but they sure as hell know what Trump and Fox tells them. Another difference is, now that they can no longer deny the virus, who has done a better job of confronting it and who is still contradicting his own experts?

[ZenMaster]

10/10 ZenMaster that's the score he gave his handling of this situation. People engage in such bravado because they can get away with it. If you and others are willing to overlook his BS he will lead you into la la land where you will live in blissful ignorance until real life asserts itself. Better hope the latter doesn't happen while you are alive or didn't contribute to your death.

There is a spectrum of outcomes. The fairest way to measure how good the response was is in relation to peers, meaning other countries. If people want to make excuses and water down the standards they can and will do so. But real life does not care about such games. It will deliver its verdict one way or another. People get the government they deserve.

Sorry but I don't care about such bravado, but what I do care about is that people all over the world is taking this seriously and that we did/are doing what looks like a great job to minimize the affects of this virus.

Generally there's a term used called "peer countries", it exists because normally all countries aren't considered peers as there are difference in size, economy and culture, leading to different expectations. Go ahead and compare US numbers to rest of Western world, they're more or less the same.

Would you agree with the statement that if the death toll for the US ends up between 100-250K deaths of people who were infected with the virus at time of death, that it's a pretty good job?

[Facepalm]

Sorry but I don't care about such bravado, but what I do care about is that people all over the world is taking this seriously and that we did/are doing what looks like a great job to minimize the affects of this virus.

Generally there's a term used called "peer countries", it exists because normally all countries aren't considered peers as there are difference in size, economy and culture, leading to different expectations. Go ahead and compare US numbers to rest of Western world, they're more or less the same.

Would you agree with the statement that if the death toll for the US ends up between 100-250K deaths of people who were infected with the virus at time of death, that it's a pretty good job?

I touched on this earlier...yes our numbers are similar but the point is we SHOULDN'T be. We had a head start to make preparations. Even if we ignored what was happening in Asia, by the time it hit Europe we couldn't deny it anymore. Still, any efforts made to slow it down and prepare were half assed and Trump was telling the country it would "magically disappear by April" and the country would be open again by Easter. Is that the kind of leadership you want? We are supposed to be the most advanced nation on Earth. We were given the test questions ahead of time and we still failed.

[Stephonit]

Would you agree with the statement that if the death toll for the US ends up between 100-250K deaths of people who were infected with the virus at time of death, that it's a pretty good job?

Depends on the tallies from other countries. If Germany has less than 1/5 the deaths then it did better. Even if the deaths were equivalent on a per capita basis the other country should probably be judged to have done better because virtually no other country has the advantages that the United States started out with. The other European countries for example were neighbors with the hotspot that was Italy while the United States famously has two oceans on either side that have tended to isolate and shield it from the world's problems.

[ZenMaster]

Sure, everyone who downplayed it when we already knew the facts deserve criticism. But ask yourself, who has the bigger platform here? Trump/FOX have a MUCH bigger platform than Pelosi. The general public doesn't know what Nancy is saying, but they sure as hell know what Trump and Fox tells them. Another difference is, now that they can no longer deny the virus, who has done a better job of confronting it and who is still contradicting his own experts?

The principle for me is more important than the size of the platform of Pelosi/CNN/NBC/MSNBC compared to Trump/Fox.

She was elected to look out for the interest of the people she represent, or at least we'd like to think so. And while not that important of a point, it still is a point that Pelosi is considered a star. The woman who defies Trump, tears up his speech(where he actually mentioned the virus as well btw as something to look out for), she's touted both in the US and internationally for those things - she is one of the top leaders of the Democratic Party.

Fox, CNN, NBC, MSNBC and all the MSM channels should be revised. They are allowed to consider their product "News Entertainment", and it got even worse when the propaganda law was removed during the Obama administration. All MSM new channels today are media extensions of one of the two political parties, it's a terrible situation and it leads to crazy things happening that might not even be real.
E.g when Jussie Smolet faked a lynching attempt just a few days after - I believe - Kamala Harris had a bill introduced with new language for such events.

[RRR3]

Pelosi sucks. That doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t suck worse though.

[ZenMaster]

I touched on this earlier...yes our numbers are similar but the point is we SHOULDN'T be. We had a head start to make preparations. Even if we ignored what was happening in Asia, by the time it hit Europe we couldn't deny it anymore. Still, any efforts made to slow it down and prepare were half assed and Trump was telling the country it would "magically disappear by April" and the country would be open again by Easter. Is that the kind of leadership you want? We are supposed to be the most advanced nation on Earth. We were given the test questions ahead of time and we still failed.

I don't know man, it's not like I don't get your point, I just don't think it's feasible expectations. I've been to most of the European countries, many of them are just as or more generally developed than the US.

Trump said "MIGHT magically disappear by April", and that "he was hoping the country could open again by Easter". You know what the Prime Minister of Denmark said just today? That's she's hoping the country can start reopening again just after Easter.

Washington Post pushed a study that projected 2.2 million deaths within the US if nothing was done. If it actually ends up at around 200K, 1/10th of that projection, how can that not be considered a good result when we're talking about an airborne virus with a 14 day incubation time? What were you expecting?

[ZenMaster]

Depends on the tallies from other countries. If Germany has less than 1/5 the deaths then it did better. Even if the deaths were equivalent on a per capita basis the other country should probably be judged to have done better because virtually no other country has the advantages that the United States started out with. The other European countries for example were neighbors with the hotspot that was Italy while the United States famously has two oceans on either side that have tended to isolate and shield it from the world's problems.

It's a bit ironic, that when Trump closed off travel to China, using some of that ocean on both sides advantage, he was called a racist and xenophobe.

I live on a small island that's a country by itself, has one airport and one ferry line. It would have been so amazingly easy here to shut down anyone coming in and preventing an outbreak here at all. But they didn't, instead it's the same dated response as everywhere else, because that's how these countries work and we've created a system where we are dependent on each other as countries for products and services to a degree never seen before.

[bladefd]

I don't know. But there's a difference between doing something perfectly and best as possible, or under the circumstances. The circumstances being the world we live in, responding perfectly is impossible.

I did hear him say that if deaths could be held between 100-240K deaths, then it "would be a good job". Which has to be true, because people were talking about millions of deaths if nothing was done.

Uhh, let's look at how it unfolded in Trump Administration (copy pasting my own post from last week and I will keep copy/pasting it every time you defend Lil Donny over his response)..


It began as a nothingburger, then a hoax to take down Trump, then just a bad cold, then just the flu, then they had it under control, then a Chinese conspiracy against America, then the cure would be worse than the disease, then chloroquine was the cure the Dems were hiding as a coup against Trump, then nobody knew about this disease until it was too late, then the President always knew but he was giving people hope (with his constant lies and downplaying), then blaming the impeachment trial in January for delays in response, and then now finally Trump response avoided a million deaths.

Do you hear yourself defending that timeline? The steps you take to defend this moron president is sad.

[ZenMaster]

Uhh, let's look at how it unfolded in Trump Administration (copy pasting my own post from last week and I will keep copy/pasting it every time you defend Lil Donny over his response)..


It began as a nothingburger, then a hoax to take down Trump, then just a bad cold, then just the flu, then they had it under control, then a Chinese conspiracy against America, then the cure would be worse than the disease, then chloroquine was the cure the Dems were hiding as a coup against Trump, then nobody knew about this disease until it was too late, then the President always knew but he was giving people hope (with his constant lies and downplaying), then blaming the impeachment trial in January for delays in response, and then now finally Trump response avoided a million deaths.

Do you hear yourself defending that timeline? The steps you take to defend this moron president is sad.

Washington Post pushed a study that projected 2.2 million deaths within the US if nothing was done. If it actually ends up at around 200K, 1/10th of that projection, how can that not be considered a good result when we're talking about an airborne virus with a 14 day incubation time? What were you expecting?

[Manny98]

Washington Post pushed a study that projected 2.2 million deaths within the US if nothing was done. If it actually ends up at around 200K, 1/10th of that projection, how can that not be considered a good result when we're talking about an airborne virus with a 14 day incubation time? What were you expecting?
That's just dumb propaganda to make it look like that they have prevented 2 million deaths with this lockdown. Which would give the higher ups more leeway to enforce more restrictive measures

The actual projected deaths is well under 500k

[Facepalm]

Uhh, let's look at how it unfolded in Trump Administration (copy pasting my own post from last week and I will keep copy/pasting it every time you defend Lil Donny over his response)..


It began as a nothingburger, then a hoax to take down Trump, then just a bad cold, then just the flu, then they had it under control, then a Chinese conspiracy against America, then the cure would be worse than the disease, then chloroquine was the cure the Dems were hiding as a coup against Trump, then nobody knew about this disease until it was too late, then the President always knew but he was giving people hope (with his constant lies and downplaying), then blaming the impeachment trial in January for delays in response, and then now finally Trump response avoided a million deaths.

Do you hear yourself defending that timeline? The steps you take to defend this moron president is sad.

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[LAmbruh]

https://s0.gifyu.com/images/6qJEmzL.gif

:roll:

[ZenMaster]

https://s0.gifyu.com/images/6qJEmzL.gif

Great job diluting serious conversation with your stupid gif.

@Blade you're an idiot for posting that childlike post, projecting things onto me that I have never said. Like, Trumps response being so great. I've said it's in line with almost all other Western countries and what you could expect in the year 2020, I've even pointed out bad things as well about his past rhetoric, but I guess that went over your head as well.

[hateraid]

Do you just look at the CDC reports or do you actually listen to their recommendations that this is not your typical flu/cold? BTW, nice backtracking, you also were downplaying this in the beginning :lol

Who says I'm backtracking? I do follow the CDC and follow all protocol for quarantine. I've had my family quarantined since March 16th. I do think this is serious but you people treat this like it's the movie contagion and there's a 100% mortality rate. I don't think it's a hoax like Manny, although some of his statements are validated. There's a .001% chance of catching it. You CNNers think the sky is falling and say shit like it's a matter of time before we all catch it. I asked earlier if anyone knew anyone who has coronavirus and very little people here or anyone I even know has caught it. So yeah, I'm right down the middle.

[bladefd]

Washington Post pushed a study that projected 2.2 million deaths within the US if nothing was done. If it actually ends up at around 200K, 1/10th of that projection, how can that not be considered a good result when we're talking about an airborne virus with a 14 day incubation time? What were you expecting?

Because we could have taken steps to have even fewer deaths? Look at Singapore and South Korea, which I believe had their first case same day as us. Look at the steps they took and where they are now. Within a week after cases began to rise there, they began doing 10k tests per day. It took us something like 8 weeks to reach 10k tests a day point since mid-January when everyone knew it could do human to human transmission. We (well, Donny) spent those 8 weeks mocking it, belittling it and outright downplaying it as his response transitioned. He was busy in mid-March talking about opening markets on Easter, talking conspiracy and all of the stuff I pointed out in that post.

February 29 was first US death from coronavirus. We are at 10,400 now. Donny did not take it seriously until week 3 of March.

[bladefd]

Great job diluting serious conversation with your stupid gif.

@Blade you're an idiot for posting that childlike post, projecting things onto me that I have never said. Like, Trumps response being so great. I've said it's in line with almost all other Western countries and what you could expect in the year 2020, I've even pointed out bad things as well about his past rhetoric, but I guess that went over your head as well.

I didn't say you said it. It was the Trump administration responses as it unfolded and Trumpeters, of course, were sucking it right up. Also throw in Fox News in there like the moron Sean Hannity, Trump's personal co<ksucker.

[nightlight]

Who says I'm backtracking? I do follow the CDC and follow all protocol for quarantine. I've had my family quarantined since March 16th. I do think this is serious but you people treat this like it's the movie contagion and there's a 100% mortality rate. I don't think it's a hoax like Manny, although some of his statements are validated. There's a .001% chance of catching it. You CNNers think the sky is falling and say shit like it's a matter of time before we all catch it. I asked earlier if anyone knew anyone who has coronavirus and very little people here or anyone I even know has caught it. So yeah, I'm right down the middle.

Manny's statements are validated because it conveniently jives with your own beliefs. Nice sources. You never let me down holistic snake oil salesman :roll:

[bladefd]

Your boy Trump dropped the ball. It's a fact much like the fact that the Earth rotates on an axis & revolves around the sun. If you don't like to hear it, too bad. Suck it up. Life goes on. Get used to it.

[hateraid]

Manny's statements are validated because it conveniently jives with your own beliefs. Nice sources. You never let me down holistic snake oil salesman :roll:

People still hide behind fake aliases in 2020?

I'm glad I'm still in someone's head. I thought I fell off the map here.

[ZenMaster]

Because we could have taken steps to have even fewer deaths? Look at Singapore and South Korea, which I believe had their first case same day as us. Look at the steps they took and where they are now. Within a week after cases began to rise there, they began doing 10k tests per day. It took us something like 8 weeks to reach 10k tests a day point since mid-January when everyone knew it could do human to human transmission. We (well, Donny) spent those 8 weeks mocking it, belittling it and outright downplaying it as his response transitioned. He was busy in mid-March talking about opening markets on Easter, talking conspiracy and all of the stuff I pointed out in that post.

February 29 was first US death from coronavirus. We are at 10,400 now. Donny did not take it seriously until week 3 of March.

Singapore and South Korea are of a different culture though, where the government can get people to do things quickly that takes longer in the West. South Korea did electronic mapping and tracking of infected, which is a very big invasion into someones privacy.

You can mock it as a conspiracy if you want, but the media being negative against chloroquine for no apparent reason, at the same time certain democrat governors were blocking doctors ability to use it locally, that was definitely political.

[Norcaliblunt]

I’m telling you guys start eating raw meat. It is the best way to build your immunity.

[RRR3]

Eating raw meat is a good way to get sick wtf

[Manny98]

Eating raw meat is a good way to get sick wtf

Not really, people in certain cultures eat raw meat all the time and never get sick

[Proctor]

Manny's statements are validated because it conveniently jives with your own beliefs. Nice sources. You never let me down holistic snake oil salesman :roll:
Lmao, I thought Bless Matthews finished him off but apparently not :roll:

[warriorfan]

I’m telling you guys start eating raw meat. It is the best way to build your immunity.

One step ahead of you. I’ve been eating bats.

[Stanley Kobrick]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4HLBfTcAUg

[diamenz]

One step ahead of you. I’ve been eating bats.

:lol

[AlternativeAcc.]

One step ahead of you. I’ve been eating bats.

You've been eating top ramen and canned beans

Bat is out of your budget

[warriorfan]

You've been eating top ramen and canned beans

Bat is out of your budget

You are handicapped and live in your moms basement

[MaxFly]

Sorry but I don't care about such bravado, but what I do care about is that people all over the world is taking this seriously and that we did/are doing what looks like a great job to minimize the affects of this virus.,,

Trump gave himself and his administration a perfect score for their handling of this pandemic.

Do you think Trump's response to this pandemic has been perfect?

[hateraid]

Lmao, I thought Bless Matthews finished him off but apparently not :roll:

Lol, 2 years later and still got my fans rattled.
All I need now is for DW to post a reply to validate my presence.

[The Iron Fist]

Trump gave himself and his administration a perfect score for their handling of this pandemic.

Do you think Trump's response to this pandemic has been perfect?
Some people actually think he has done nothing wrong.

[MaxFly]

Some people actually think he has done nothing wrong.

And had all of the mistakes simply been general governmental issues distinct from Trump's actions and those of the administration, we could talk about how great their response has been, but we have video of dismissals, downplaying and delaying.

There will be time for review later.

[ZenMaster]

Trump gave himself and his administration a perfect score for their handling of this pandemic.

Do you think Trump's response to this pandemic has been perfect?

No of course not, but I don't think the overall handling is worse than what generally seen in EU countries.

[MaxFly]

No of course not, but I don't think the overall handling is worse than what generally seen in EU countries.

The poor response of other countries does not absolve the current administration of their mistakes. There are certainly a number of realities that most countries were bound to encounter: a lot of people were going to die; the economy was going to tank; our healthcare system was going to be tested. But we can't overlook the fact that the administration delayed in taking a few key steps that would have strengthened our response. Their early attempts to dismiss and downplay the outbreak were egregious.

Here is Trump comparing coronavirus to the flu.

https://i.ibb.co/WVTHgbd/kap04onz9sq41.jpg

Four weeks later, we are at close to 13,000 deaths. I believe we are averaging something like 440 deaths a day since that tweet.

[coin24]

The poor response of other countries does not absolve the current administration of their mistakes. There are certainly a number of realities that most countries were bound to encounter: a lot of people were going to die; the economy was going to tank; our healthcare system was going to be tested. But we can't overlook the fact that the administration delayed in taking a few key steps that would have strengthened our response. Their early attempts to dismiss and downplay the outbreak were egregious.

Here is Trump comparing coronavirus to the flu.

https://i.ibb.co/WVTHgbd/kap04onz9sq41.jpg

Four weeks later, we are at close to 13,000 deaths. I believe we are averaging something like 440 deaths a day since that tweet.


So you wanted him to panic at first mention and alarm everyone, shut all borders and create a vaccine by himself in one day??

Fkn trump it's all his fault!!!

Btw it looks like you'll land in that average of 27-70k deaths sooo technically he's not wrong.:lol

[Patrick Chewing]

The poor response of other countries does not absolve the current administration of their mistakes. There are certainly a number of realities that most countries were bound to encounter: a lot of people were going to die; the economy was going to tank; our healthcare system was going to be tested. But we can't overlook the fact that the administration delayed in taking a few key steps that would have strengthened our response. Their early attempts to dismiss and downplay the outbreak were egregious.

Here is Trump comparing coronavirus to the flu.

https://i.ibb.co/WVTHgbd/kap04onz9sq41.jpg

Four weeks later, we are at close to 13,000 deaths. I believe we are averaging something like 440 deaths a day since that tweet.



What mistakes, Doctor Max?


Don't forget that California governor Gavin Newsom said about a month ago that over 25 million Californians would contract the virus within a two month period.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-20/newsom-california-25-million-coronavirus-cases-two-months

Currently California sits at 17,614 reported cases statewide and of those cases only 450 have died.


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Wait, what happened to that 25.5 million? I wonder who stepped up and helped poor Gavin.

[DoctorP]

oops wrong thhread

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[bladefd]

The poor response of other countries does not absolve the current administration of their mistakes. There are certainly a number of realities that most countries were bound to encounter: a lot of people were going to die; the economy was going to tank; our healthcare system was going to be tested. But we can't overlook the fact that the administration delayed in taking a few key steps that would have strengthened our response. Their early attempts to dismiss and downplay the outbreak were egregious.

Here is Trump comparing coronavirus to the flu.

https://i.ibb.co/WVTHgbd/kap04onz9sq41.jpg

Four weeks later, we are at close to 13,000 deaths. I believe we are averaging something like 440 deaths a day since that tweet.

We are on pace to blow past 37k flu deaths within next 14 days. We had 1,700 deaths today and I expect peak to be around 2k per day. We are close to the peak as per Falci and others. I am guessing peak will be around Friday/Saturday or so.

My estimate:
Apr 7 - 14k total deaths (1.7k in day)
April 8 - 15.8k (1.8k in day)
April 9 - 17.6k (1.8k)
Apr 10 - 19.6 (2k)
Apr 11 - 21.6 (2k)
Apr 12 - 23.8 (2.2k)
Apr 13 - 25.8 (2k)
Apr 14 - 27.7 (1.9k)
Apr 15 - 29.6 (1.9k)
Apr 16 - 31.5 (1.9k)
Apr 17 - 33.3 (1.8k)
Apr 18 - 35.1 (1.8k)
Apr 19 - 37k (1.8k)
April 20 - pass flu average

This is assuming peak is 2.2k deaths per day and then it begins to drop off afterwards. So far, it has only been increasing but I am hoping we can get it down. If peak is higher then we will reach flu average deaths by mid next week.

Keep in mind that our first death in US was February 29 iirc. Flu season runs about 7 months. We are 3 months into coronavirus with who knows how much longer..

[coin24]

"ITS 10 TIMES MORE DEADLY THAN THE FLU BRO":lol

Simon the dumb c*nt sheep as usual, hows your crypto portfolio going?

[warriorfan]

"ITS 10 TIMES MORE DEADLY THAN THE FLU BRO":lol

Simon the dumb c*nt sheep as usual, hows your crypto portfolio going?

Hes already broke the bank on porn passwords and Pizza Hut.

[Patrick Chewing]

Where's Max??? Quit hiding from me, boy!

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[MaxFly]

What mistakes, Doctor Max?


• Jan 8th - First CDC warning
• Jan 9th - Trump campaign rally
• Jan 14th - Trump campaign rally
• Jan 18th - Trump golfs
• Jan 19th - Trump golfs
• Jan 22nd - “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
• Jan 28th - Trump campaign rally
• Jan 30th - Trump campaign rally
• Feb 1st - Trump golfs
• Feb 2nd - “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China."
• Feb 10th - Trump campaign rally
• Feb 15h - Trump golfs
• Feb 19th - Trump campaign rally
• Feb 20th - Trump campaign rally
• Feb 21st - Trump campaign rally
• Feb 24th - “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
• Feb 25h - “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
• Feb 25h - “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
• Feb 26th - “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”

Let's start with misinformation...

[Patrick Chewing]

Those aren’t mistakes, Max. None of those are. Those are statements that Trump made. I can find you several statements from medical experts on your favorite channels like MSNBC and CNN who all said the same thing. So again, who are you fooling here, Maxwell? Definitely not me. Who are you fooling when you casually omit Trump’s travel ban from China and Europe? Again, you haven’t fooled me.

Do you suffer from severe TDS that no matter what Trump does, it’s your life’s mission to second guess it and paint it in a negative light? Haven’t you had enough failures and losses trying to convince us that Trump colluded to steal an election? How about the Ukraine deal? It was a perfect phone call. Just as this was a perfect reaction to Covid-19. I bet you’re sad that the projections of fatalities have dwindled to the numbers they are today. You devil you.

[LAmbruh]

"quit overreacting bro"





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lololol


"bro, it's just old people like your mom n pops that die"


"you guys are being divas"



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update from 2 weeks ago



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[LAmbruh]

wow, Karl Anthony Towns mom just passed from Covid-19

[MaxFly]

Those aren’t mistakes, Max. None of those are. Those are statements that Trump made. I can find you several statements from medical experts on your favorite channels like MSNBC and CNN who all said the same thing. So again, who are you fooling here, Maxwell? Definitely not me. Who are you fooling when you casually omit Trump’s travel ban from China and Europe? Again, you haven’t fooled me.

Are you daft? Spreading misinformation is a mistake, especially when we now know that people in and connected to his administration, including health experts, were talking about and advising Trump on the opposite of the "statements" he was was making publicly. He has even publicly contradicted what some of his experts have said publicly. I wouldn't be surprised if the administration, at some point, tries to push the narrative that the information from his advisers never got to him.

Fauci has talked about the slow response the administration had and the push back he received in calling for closings. Half the time, he has trouble keeping his face straight as Trump talks during his briefings.

And then there's the pushing out of Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, senior director for global health security and biodefense at the National Security Council, and the dismantling and fragmenting of his team back in 2018. Trump's comparisons of this outbreak to the seasonal flu. Alex Azar's unheeded warnings. Baffling decisions around testing and test kits. There's unfortunately a long list of baffling Trump decisions.

As for the China travel ban... you do realize that the major airlines had suspended flights to China prior to Trump's announcement, right? Their actions actually preceded his announcement.


Do you suffer from severe TDS that no matter what Trump does, it’s your life’s mission to second guess it and paint it in a negative light? Haven’t you had enough failures and losses trying to convince us that Trump colluded to steal an election? How about the Ukraine deal? It was a perfect phone call. Just as this was a perfect reaction to Covid-19. I bet you’re sad that the projections of fatalities have dwindled to the numbers they are today. You devil you.

Lol, are you ok? You sound like Trump.


“I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”

You used to sound like this.


Several thousand lies and failed projects later, the only thing Trump has going for him is his name. To which he has created this mythical fairy tale that the Trump name is synonymous with success. It is not.

From "TDS" to stanning. SMH...

[MaxFly]

So you wanted him to panic at first mention and alarm everyone, shut all borders and create a vaccine by himself in one day??

Fkn trump it's all his fault!!!

No, I wanted him to heed the early warnings of his health advisers regarding the potential severity of the outbreak and the need for closings, to make sure our testing capabilities were more robust sooner, and to more quickly secure and distribute PPE. I also wanted him to avoid spreading misinformation at the onset and in the middle of a the pandemic.

It's not all Trump's fault, and anyone saying that has no idea what they're talking about, but if you're having trouble acknowledging that he and the administration had some unfortunate and preventable failings, I can't help you.


Btw it looks like you'll land in that average of 27-70k deaths sooo technically he's not wrong.:lol

The numbers are slowing down thanks to the stringent social distancing measures put in place to slow the spread of the virus, since we don't have a vaccine. Looks like it has worked, though we may have a few more weeks to go, and if not the summer, the fall to contend with. In contrast, millions of people get the flu vaccine every year, and it is especially advised for the elderly and those with underlying health issues... the very people acutely affected by coronavirus.

27-70k additional deaths is really nothing to laugh about... especially from the common cold as some of you have described this pandemic.

[Patrick Chewing]

What misinformation was Trump spreading, Max??

Every piece of advice Trump was given from the task force, he acted on it. They have said it themselves time and time again. The fact that Dr. Fauci has to tell reporters that Trump acted on all their requests just goes to show you that the media narrative has now shifted into pinning blame on Trump, rather than focusing on the very real virus that is still killing people on a daily basis. That’s embarrassing for journalism and for partisan hacks like you to focus on Trump 24/7 than the actual problem at hand.

Quit being a troll.

[MaxFly]

wow, Karl Anthony Towns mom just passed from Covid-19

Wow... she had been placed in a medically induced coma after contracting it. His father had also been hospitalized, apparently.

[MaxFly]

update from 2 weeks ago

2 weeks, 20,000 deaths in the US. Thankfully it looks like the extreme measures that have been taken have worked and we've managed to hit the peak.

[LAmbruh]

Wow... she had been placed in a medically induced coma after contracting it. His father had also been hospitalized, apparently.

yep, and she was only 58yo with no other illnesses



just a coma bro, chill

[MaxFly]

What misinformation was Trump spreading, Max??

Every piece of advice Trump was given from the task force, he acted on it. They have said it themselves time and time again. The fact that Dr. Fauci has to tell reporters that Trump acted on all their requests just goes to show you that the media narrative has now shifted into pinning blame on Trump, rather than focusing on the very real virus that is still killing people on a daily basis. That’s embarrassing for journalism and for partisan hacks like you to focus on Trump 24/7 than the actual problem at hand.

Quit being a troll.

Feb 2nd - “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China." - Nope...
Feb 24th - “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” - Nope...
Feb 25h - “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.” - Nope...
Feb 26th - “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.” - Nope...
Feb 26th - “We're going very substantially down, not up.” - Nope...

Lol, and he contradicts his own people and they are forced to reverse themselves in order to stay on his good side.


I mean, obviously, you could logically say that if you had a process that was ongoing and you started mitigation earlier, you could have saved lives,” Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union” when asked if social distancing and stay-at-home measures could have prevented deaths had they been put in place in February, instead of mid-March.

“Obviously, no one is going to deny that. But what goes into those decisions is complicated,” added Fauci, who is a key member of the Trump administration’s coronavirus task force. “But you’re right, I mean, obviously, if we had right from the very beginning shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different. But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.”


In a briefing to the media on Tuesday, officials from the centres for disease control and other health experts, said communities in the US should start planning for “social distancing measures”.

“It’s not so much of a question of if this will happen anymore but rather more of a question of exactly when this will happen,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the national centre for immunization and respiratory diseases.

But in his own press conference on Wednesday, Mr Trump appeared to play down such certainty, while insisting his government was ready for whatever came.

“I don’t think it’s inevitable. I don’t think it’s inevitable because we’re doing a really job at the borders and checking people coming in,” he said.

[Patrick Chewing]

:oldlol:


What about every news outlet parroting out how this virus was not a big deal? They all had doctors on preaching about how the regular flu would be more worrisome and how it was still safe to travel and to travel to China of all places.


Why does Trump get under your skin, Max? Why aren't you critical of the Fake News media who for several weeks told millions of Americans that this was nothing to worry about?

[bladefd]

:oldlol:


What about every news outlet parroting out how this virus was not a big deal? They all had doctors on preaching about how the regular flu would be more worrisome and how it was still safe to travel and to travel to China of all places.


Why does Trump get under your skin, Max? Why aren't you critical of the Fake News media who for several weeks told millions of Americans that this was nothing to worry about?

Looks like Trump propaganda video got to you and brainwashed you within hours. Were you watching Fox propaganda state news?

Trump was the one saying the bolded stuff

[Phong]

Looks like Trump propaganda video got to you and brainwashed you within hours. Were you watching Fox propaganda state news?

Trump was the one saying the bolded stuff
https://youtu.be/wVDPVBZF2Xg

[Patrick Chewing]

Looks like Trump propaganda video got to you and brainwashed you within hours. Were you watching Fox propaganda state news?

Trump was the one saying the bolded stuff

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Screen-Shot-2020-03-24-at-1.06.51-PM-998x585.png

https://i.ibb.co/Xk1DDrz/nyt.png

https://i.ibb.co/Lr6tQHV/wp.png

[Patrick Chewing]

https://i.ibb.co/tJv34Nq/wp2.png

https://media1.giphy.com/media/3owzW9EZI8M3sz9s5O/giphy.gif

[FKAri]

What misinformation was Trump spreading, Max??

Every piece of advice Trump was given from the task force, he acted on it. They have said it themselves time and time again. The fact that Dr. Fauci has to tell reporters that Trump acted on all their requests just goes to show you that the media narrative has now shifted into pinning blame on Trump, rather than focusing on the very real virus that is still killing people on a daily basis. That’s embarrassing for journalism and for partisan hacks like you to focus on Trump 24/7 than the actual problem at hand.

Quit being a troll.

They took Dr. Fauci's words out of context to turn it into an attack against Trump.

[diamenz]

why does it seems like EVERY right winger downplays this virus and EVERY left winger overblows it?

what the F**K is wrong with you people? do u just fall in line with your crowd, or what?

edit: nevermind, i figured it out. it's all trump. the derangement on either side is real.

"orange man bad!".

"orange man do no harm"!

:rolleyes:

[FKAri]

why does it seems like EVERY right winger downplays this virus and EVERY left winger overblows it?
It's not a coincidence that they happened to pick the sides they did.
Conservatives tend to be more weary of govt overreach and are thus more likely to believe something is being overblown by the govt to exert control.
Liberals tend to be more weary of corporate overreach and are thus more likely to believe something is being downplayed so as to protect corporate interests.

Both are valid concerns and I'd like to believe most individuals have more nuance than just picking a side.

[TheMan]

why does it seems like EVERY right winger downplays this virus and EVERY left winger overblows it?

what the F**K is wrong with you people? do u just fall in line with your crowd, or what?

edit: nevermind, i figured it out. it's all trump. the derangement on either side is real.

"orange man bad!".

"orange man do no harm"!

:rolleyes:
That's the American perspective...the exact opposite happened here in Mexico, the leftist government led by Lopez Obrador until recently was downplaying the threat of the virus while the conservative opposition was warning of a disastrous pandemic outbreak. So far we aren't being hit that hard, seems to be more or less under control but it really does suck that even something like a pandemic gets politicized.

[ZenMaster]

why does it seems like EVERY right winger downplays this virus and EVERY left winger overblows it?

what the F**K is wrong with you people? do u just fall in line with your crowd, or what?

edit: nevermind, i figured it out. it's all trump. the derangement on either side is real.

"orange man bad!".

"orange man do no harm"!

:rolleyes:

Because the left couldn't help themselves to not attack Trump over this. Thereafter, the people who support him heavily, feel the need to defend the attacks and back and forth you go.

If it was in fact right wingers who started celebrating Trumps actions without attacks having been made from the people who always attack, I'd love to see that.

[Patrick Chewing]

Here's some more data for you, Maxwell. You snake.


TA=Trump admin

1/3: TA offered to send CDC to China
1/5: 2nd offer made
1/14: WHO says no human-to-human transmission
1/20: TA announces work on vaccine
1/29: TA created Coronavirus Task Force
1/30: WHO declares emergency
1/31: TA bans China travel

[Stephonit]

WHO says no human-to-human transmission

Does anyone have a clue what that is supposed to mean? If it is not transmitted human-to-human how was it being transmitted? That should almost automatically have been falsifiable given the spread.

[Patrick Chewing]

Does anyone have a clue what that is supposed to mean? If it is not transmitted human-to-human how was it being transmitted? That should almost automatically have been falsifiable given the spread.

The WHO is a puppet of China.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCYFh8U2xM


And their lack of urgency and transparency is what led to a wider spread across the globe.

Trump just announced that the United States would be halting all funding to the WHO.

[Axe]

The WHO is a puppet of China.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCYFh8U2xM


And their lack of urgency and transparency is what led to a wider spread across the globe.

Trump just announced that the United States would be halting all funding to the WHO.
Lmao those conspiracy theories

[DoctorP]

The WHO is a puppet of China.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCYFh8U2xM


And their lack of urgency and transparency is what led to a wider spread across the globe.

Trump just announced that the United States would be halting all funding to the WHO.

Trump's stock is rising.

[bladefd]

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/04/15/835011346/a-timeline-of-coronavirus-comments-from-president-trump-and-who

January 29 - the day WHO began to take the virus seriously as global emergency and urging everyone to do the same
March 16 - the day Trump began to take the virus seriously

Trump on April 7: blames WHO for delayed response and blames them for cover-up

[LAmbruh]

2,400 US deaths yesterday and rising


just your typical flu day with more casualties than 9/11 attacks


all despite being in complete lockdown

and the virus only being around a month

[Patrick Chewing]

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/04/15/835011346/a-timeline-of-coronavirus-comments-from-president-trump-and-who

January 29 - the day WHO began to take the virus seriously as global emergency and urging everyone to do the same
March 16 - the day Trump began to take the virus seriously

Trump on April 7: blames WHO for delayed response and blames them for cover-up

"Taking something seriously" as you say is an opinion. Opinions hold no water next to actions.

Once again for those who are slow:

TA=Trump admin

1/3: TA offered to send CDC to China
1/5: 2nd offer made
1/14: WHO says no human-to-human transmission
1/20: TA announces work on vaccine
1/29: TA created Coronavirus Task Force
1/30: WHO declares emergency
1/31: TA bans China travel


EDIT: I'll add this one too for context

2/24: Nancy Pelosi creates a publicity stunt by visiting San Fran's Chinatown section telling everyone to come to Chinatown as she takes pictures and shakes hands with her constituents.

[Axe]

2,400 US deaths yesterday and rising


just your typical flu day with more casualties than 9/11 attacks


all despite being in complete lockdown

and the virus only being around a month
Nonbelievers are only yawning at this.

[MaxFly]

:oldlol:

What about every news outlet parroting out how this virus was not a big deal? They all had doctors on preaching about how the regular flu would be more worrisome and how it was still safe to travel and to travel to China of all places.

Why does Trump get under your skin, Max? Why aren't you critical of the Fake News media who for several weeks told millions of Americans that this was nothing to worry about?

So now you've moved on from Trump's dismissals and downplaying of the virus and the mistakes he has made to the media. Media entities and personalities who downplayed the virus should certainly be called out. Why do you have an issue with both Trump and the media being called out?

[Patrick Chewing]

So now you've moved on from Trump's dismissals and downplaying of the virus and the mistakes he has made to the media. Media entities and personalities who downplayed the virus should certainly be called out. Why do you have an issue with both Trump and the media being called out?

First off Maxwell, you never call out the media. And if you do, it's only Fox News. You regurgitate Fake News CNN and MSDNC talking points on a daily.

And you fail to see the bigger picture because you have an agenda. Your agenda is to call out Trump. Period. Who are we kidding here? You could care less about truths and facts. You're a KevinNYC clone and I wonder if that isn't really Kevin on the other end of the computer at times. The only reason you get up in the morning is to go on internet message boards and trash Trump. The bigger picture and overall point that you refuse to visualize and accept is that anything Trump said, and any downplaying of the virus was spoken from a perspective of having very little information about it at the time. Same goes for the media. Even your hero, Anderson Cooper, told his 12 viewers (yourself included) that we should all worry about the regular flu instead of the Coronavirus as he even had Dr. Sanjay Gupta sitting next to him! Then, to top it off, the third most powerful person in this country, the third in line to the Presidency, your Queen, your bae, Nancy Pelosi was in San Francisco in the middle of Chinatown shaking hands and hugging people telling everyone that it was safe to interact and be out in public. :facepalm This was on 2/24. Nearly a month after Trump had halted flights coming in from China.

So if everyone was downplaying it right around the same time, then why is it your mission here to portray Trump in negative light? As if he didn't step up in time and could have acted quicker. As I told your pen pal bladefd earlier, anytime you guys say he "didn't take it seriously", well, it's laughable and pathetic. Actions speak louder than words, and I'll post it for a third time on here in case the third time is the charm for some of you:



TA=Trump admin

1/3: TA offered to send CDC to China
1/5: 2nd offer made
1/14: WHO says no human-to-human transmission
1/20: TA announces work on vaccine
1/29: TA created Coronavirus Task Force
1/30: WHO declares emergency
1/31: TA bans China travel


EDIT: I'll add this one too for context

2/24: Nancy Pelosi creates a publicity stunt by visiting San Fran's Chinatown section telling everyone to come to Chinatown as she takes pictures and shakes hands with her constituents.


The moral of the story is that everyone downplayed this. And while we should be pointing the finger at the actual culprits here, you're just headstrong on getting at Trump that it's clouding your vision and judgment. This is the reason the WHO is losing their funding. They are a puppet for China and there are plenty of videos online of the WHO, the people who are responsible to warn other countries of potential pandemics, downplaying the virus and gushing over China and how transparent that government has been in the handling of this virus. It's evident now that they were covering for China. But yet here you are, pointing the finger at Trump for some odd and strange reason. You're obsessed with him, my friend.

[bladefd]

The bigger picture and overall point that you refuse to visualize and accept is that anything Trump said, and any downplaying of the virus was spoken from a perspective of having very little information about it at the time. Same goes for the media. Even your hero, Anderson Cooper, told his 12 viewers (yourself included) that we should all worry about the regular flu instead of the Coronavirus as he even had Dr. Sanjay Gupta sitting next to him! Then, to top it off, the third most powerful person in this country, the third in line to the Presidency, your Queen, your bae, Nancy Pelosi was in San Francisco in the middle of Chinatown shaking hands and hugging people telling everyone that it was safe to interact and be out in public. :facepalm This was on 2/24. Nearly a month after Trump had halted flights coming in from China.

So if everyone was downplaying it right around the same time, then why is it your mission here to portray Trump in negative light? As if he didn't step up in time and could have acted quicker. As I told your pen pal bladefd earlier, anytime you guys say he "didn't take it seriously", well, it's laughable and pathetic. Actions speak louder than words, and I'll post it for a third time on here in case the third time is the charm for some of you:





The moral of the story is that everyone downplayed this. And while we should be pointing the finger at the actual culprits here, you're just headstrong on getting at Trump that it's clouding your vision and judgment. This is the reason the WHO is losing their funding. They are a puppet for China and there are plenty of videos online of the WHO, the people who are responsible to warn other countries of potential pandemics, downplaying the virus and gushing over China and how transparent that government has been in the handling of this virus. It's evident now that they were covering for China. But yet here you are, pointing the finger at Trump for some odd and strange reason. You're obsessed with him, my friend.

Max posted:

Feb 2nd - “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China."
Feb 24th - “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
Feb 25h - “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
Feb 26th - “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
Feb 26th - “We're going very substantially down, not up.”

Lil Donny kept downplaying it looong after WHO declared emergency.

Yes, lots of people were downplaying. Including many democrats and China, shame on them all. Even some blame to scientists like Falci for saying we shouldn't close airplanes to China. Trump is certainly not the only one to blame. I blame many people, including everyday people like you and nanners calling it just a bad cold. It is not just a cold.

Having said that though, Trump is the president - he is supposed to be the leader of the free world. He gets held to a much higher standard as our leader and most powerful man in the world. It took him until March 16 to admit the virus was an emergency. Let's not excuse that and try to completely change the narrative. Truth is Trump made a mistake like everyone, including Pelosi, and move the hell on.

[coin24]

The TDS is strong with blade and max, there is no reasoning with them, everything is trumps fault:oldlol:

Is max don lemon ?

[Patrick Chewing]

Max posted:


Lil Donny kept downplaying it looong after WHO declared emergency.

Yes, lots of people were downplaying. Including many democrats and China, shame on them all. Even some blame to scientists like Falci for saying we shouldn't close airplanes to China. Trump is certainly not the only one to blame. I blame many people, including everyday people like you and nanners calling it just a bad cold. It is not just a cold.

Having said that though, Trump is the president - he is supposed to be the leader of the free world. He gets held to a much higher standard as our leader and most powerful man in the world. It took him until March 16 to admit the virus was an emergency. Let's not excuse that and try to completely change the narrative. Truth is Trump made a mistake like everyone, including Pelosi, and move the hell on.

Trump did everything the task force asked him to do in order to curtail the virus from spreading further. Trump acted on their requests immediately after the requests and recommendations were made.

So you guys are all up in arms over what? Over him downplaying it? We all did. I expect you to whip yourself now, blade. As punishment. The problem is you guys are trying so hard to correlate his downplaying of it to actual American deaths from this virus. You guys are evil. No one died as a result of Trump's downplaying this. If anything, acting as quickly as he did per the recommendations of the task force, many lives were saved as a result. And the amount of deaths were minuscule as opposed to these radical and irresponsible projections the "experts" were putting out.

[Patrick Chewing]

The TDS is strong with blade and max, there is no reasoning with them, everything is trumps fault:oldlol:

Is max don lemon ?


They have a sickness. They need help.

[tpols]

Trump's stock is rising.

man that guy was creepy as ****.

[bladefd]

We are on pace to blow past 37k flu deaths within next 14 days. We had 1,700 deaths today and I expect peak to be around 2k per day. We are close to the peak as per Falci and others. I am guessing peak will be around Friday/Saturday or so.

My estimate:
Apr 7 - 14k total deaths (1.7k in day)
April 8 - 15.8k (1.8k in day)
April 9 - 17.6k (1.8k)
Apr 10 - 19.6 (2k)
Apr 11 - 21.6 (2k)
Apr 12 - 23.8 (2.2k)
Apr 13 - 25.8 (2k)
Apr 14 - 27.7 (1.9k)
Apr 15 - 29.6 (1.9k)
Apr 16 - 31.5 (1.9k)
Apr 17 - 33.3 (1.8k)
Apr 18 - 35.1 (1.8k)
Apr 19 - 37k (1.8k)
April 20 - pass flu average

This is assuming peak is 2.2k deaths per day and then it begins to drop off afterwards. So far, it has only been increasing but I am hoping we can get it down. If peak is higher then we will reach flu average deaths by mid next week.

Keep in mind that our first death in US was February 29 iirc. Flu season runs about 7 months. We are 3 months into coronavirus with who knows how much longer..

Prediction almost right on the money. Actually 5k more people died than my estimate at the end of April 20th.. Passed the estimate of flu deaths and we are far from out of the woods

[Cleverness]

What mistakes, Doctor Max?


Don't forget that California governor Gavin Newsom said about a month ago that over 25 million Californians would contract the virus within a two month period.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-20/newsom-california-25-million-coronavirus-cases-two-months

Currently California sits at 17,614 reported cases statewide and of those cases only 450 have died.


https://media1.tenor.com/images/04d581e7abee1061d26b6c01532a7771/tenor.gif

Wait, what happened to that 25.5 million? I wonder who stepped up and helped poor Gavin.



March 19th, 2020: “We project that roughly 56 percent of our population – 25.5 million people – will be infected with the virus over an eight week period,” GAVIN NEWSOM wrote in a letter to President Trump. He asked the president to deploy a hospital ship. The president agreed, and on March 27, USNS Mercy arrived in the Port of Los Angeles. Last week, it steamed out – after treating just 77 patients in seven weeks.

Orange County: 5,900 available beds (could expand to 8,400 beds) and only 230 beds (3.9%) are treating COVID-19 patients.


:facepalm

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/05/22/its-time-to-face-the-facts-and-reconsider-the-prolonged-lockdowns-will-oneill/

[coin24]

Holy overreaction Batman :lol

Man dies from drink driving crashing his car, covid death... Only in Murica..

[Axe]

Holy overreaction Batman :lol

Man dies from drink driving crashing his car, covid death... Only in Murica..
:roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

March 19th, 2020: “We project that roughly 56 percent of our population – 25.5 million people – will be infected with the virus over an eight week period,” GAVIN NEWSOM wrote in a letter to President Trump. He asked the president to deploy a hospital ship. The president agreed, and on March 27, USNS Mercy arrived in the Port of Los Angeles. Last week, it steamed out – after treating just 77 patients in seven weeks.

Orange County: 5,900 available beds (could expand to 8,400 beds) and only 230 beds (3.9%) are treating COVID-19 patients.


:facepalm

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/05/22/its-time-to-face-the-facts-and-reconsider-the-prolonged-lockdowns-will-oneill/


https://media.giphy.com/media/fDzM81OYrNjJC/200.gif

Meanwhile, aren't Angelinos still on lockdown till mid June...:lol

[Phong]

https://media.giphy.com/media/fDzM81OYrNjJC/200.gif

Meanwhile, aren't Angelinos still on lockdown till mid June...:lol
Till the end of July.

[Patrick Chewing]

Till the end of July.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/a7b9eca631101d2561401a61afa6e2df/tenor.gif


Geez. Sorry, pal.


I hear Texas is beautiful.

[Cleverness]

In terms of IFR, it turns out "it's just the flu bro"

CDC estimates that 35 percent of people infected by the COVID-19 virus never develop symptoms. Taking that into account, we get:

0.3% overall IFR
0.03% IFR in 0-49 years old
0.13% IFR in 50-64 years old

As we test more asymptomatic people, we'll start to see that 35% rise. Some data is showing up to 88% asymptomatic cases. Taking a 70% asymptomatic case into account, we get
0.15% overall IFR
0.015% IFR in 0-49 years old
0.065% IFR in 50-64 years old

The flu is more dangerous to most of the country than COVID-19, or on par with the flu. "It's just a flu bro"

[imdaman99]

Do you really work for the health department, cleverness? :biggums:
I guess it's good being anonymous on an internet forum, you're free to spread your true feelings all you want without getting in trouble at work.

[LAmbruh]

50,298 cases today so far highest on record


Just a flu doe


130,000 deaths in 3 months doe


Just a cough doe

[Shogon]

It’S NoT a tRoLL tHrEAd bRo!!!

[rawimpact]

50,298 cases today so far highest on record


Just a flu doe


130,000 deaths in 3 months doe


Just a cough doe

Why are you so scared?

totaling posts from all your alts i doubt you even have enough time to go outside

[Shogon]

Why are you so scared?

totaling posts from all your alts i doubt you even have enough time to go outside

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/56/b7/6a/56b76abae0b98cefcadc33f843b23a90.jpg