Trumps gone full retard.

[DoctorP]

https://i.ibb.co/Bc2YPbb/EECCA34-D-F49-E-4-DAB-A8-C7-E7-E0-BA2-BB4-CF.jpg

It's over, I was trying to give Trump a chance but today he brag-tweeted about the rating numbers of his press conference during a national emergency/pandemic.

I don't care if Biden is a weekend at Bernie's corpse at this point... we have to get him elected. I don't want Biden but Trump is acting AS LOW IQ AS IT GETS.

TIME TO PULL HIM OUT, FELLAS. TRUMPS DONE.

[warriorfan]

Cocaine.

[DoctorP]

Cocaine.

mixed with dementia, perhaps.

[Long Duck Dong]

Cannot defend Trump on this, or a lot of the things he's done lately but come election time are you going to vote for the guy in love with the sound of his own name or the guy who can't even remember his own name?

[DoctorP]

Cannot defend Trump on this, or a lot of the things he's done lately but come election time are you going to vote for the guy in love with the sound of his own name or the guy who can't even remember his own name?

at this point its going to be the Biden and his team. No doubt about it. I don't even like Biden but this is porous work by the Commander in Chief.

[SouBeachTalents]

That is some serious sociopath behavior

[Norcaliblunt]

Troll baby troll. What a time you guys.

[Facepalm]

https://i.ibb.co/Bc2YPbb/EECCA34-D-F49-E-4-DAB-A8-C7-E7-E0-BA2-BB4-CF.jpg

It's over, I was trying to give Trump a chance but today he brag-tweeted about the rating numbers of his press conference during a national emergency/pandemic.

I don't care if Biden is a weekend at Bernie's corpse at this point... we have to get him elected. I don't want Biden but Trump is acting AS LOW IQ AS IT GETS.

TIME TO PULL HIM OUT, FELLAS. TRUMPS DONE.
LMAO. Not the leadership that we want, but the leadership we deserve.

[DoctorP]

LMAO. Not the leadership that we want, but the leadership we deserve.

:lol

[FKAri]

Cannot defend Trump on this, or a lot of the things he's done lately but come election time are you going to vote for the guy in love with the sound of his own name or the guy who can't even remember his own name?

Military coup

[tpols]

Cocaine.

30 mg Adderall.

[DoctorP]

30 mg Adderall.

same shit :lol

[Manny98]

Trump dgaf, straight Alpha :applause:

[DoctorP]

Trump dgaf, straight Alpha :applause:

alpha retards are still retards god bless em

[jstern]

President Trump has more Twitter follower than Obama did at same point into his Presidency.

But anyway, Trump's complaint is about the media disliking the fact that he's reaching too many people.


Because the “Ratings” of my News Conferences etc. are so high, “Bachelor finale, Monday Night Football type numbers” according to the @nytimes, the Lamestream Media is going CRAZY. “Trump is reaching too many people, we must stop him.” said one lunatic. See you at 5:00 P.M.!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244309931874017280

[DoctorP]

President Trump has more Twitter follower than Obama did at same point into his Presidency.

But anyway, Trump's complaint is about the media disliking the fact that he's reaching too many people.



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244309931874017280

glad to see our commander in chief has his priorities straight. also glad to see he still has the maturity of an idiotic 12 year old. Ironic cause I do too but I aint the pres.

[Long Duck Dong]

at this point its going to be the Biden and his team. No doubt about it. I don't even like Biden but this is porous work by the Commander in Chief.

At this point idgaf who wins as long as life can get back to normal. A lot of things that seemed super important to me before, I haven't even really thought about lately. I guess it takes a crisis of this magnitude to snap us back into what is truly important in life

[DoctorP]

At this point idgaf who wins as long as life can get back to normal. A lot of things that seemed super important to me before, I haven't even really thought about lately. I guess it takes a crisis of this magnitude to snap us back into what is truly important in life

i vote.

[highwhey]

At this point idgaf who wins as long as life can get back to normal. A lot of things that seemed super important to me before, I haven't even really thought about lately. I guess it takes a crisis of this magnitude to snap us back into what is truly important in life

Yup, same here. Been praying every day we return to normalcy.

We had it GOOD pre-coronavirus. I stopped by my parents place a couple dsys ago. It was at 8pm, cold as fvck. Had to wait on the porch bc i don't want to risk getting my mom sick. Meanwhile she made me some sandwiches, i thought to myself, "damn man, this is a sad reality".

[jstern]

glad to see our commander in chief has his priorities straight. also glad to see he still has the maturity of an idiotic 12 year old. Ironic cause I do too but I aint the pres.

He was just copy and pasting a negative NY Times article about himself, through multiple Tweets.

Trump is playing 3D chess. This is all fundamental, 2nd nature habits for him, in terms of getting his name out there, getting the people who dislike him outrage over something out of context, and in turn that leading to his followers doubling down.

[DoctorP]

He was just copy and pasting a negative NY Times article about himself, through multiple Tweets.

Trump is playing 3D chess. This is all fundamental, 2nd nature habits for him, in terms of getting his name out there, getting the people who dislike him outrage over something out of context, and in turn that leading to his followers doubling down.

yeah, this aint the time. at this time these moves are clearly poor leadership moves. doesnt take a genius to see this. AT this point I could believe that Trump wants out himself and is self-sabotaging.

[Long Duck Dong]

Yup, same here. Been praying every day we return to normalcy.

We had it GOOD pre-coronavirus. I stopped by my parents place a couple dsys ago. It was at 8pm, cold as fvck. Had to wait on the porch bc i don't want to risk getting my mom sick. Meanwhile she made me some sandwiches, i thought to myself, "damn man, this is a sad reality".

Yup. I still go over to their ranch because I keep a lot of stuff over there for work but now I'm stuck exchanging greetings and conversations through the doorway :(

[diamenz]

He was just copy and pasting a negative NY Times article about himself, through multiple Tweets.

Trump is playing 3D chess. This is all fundamental, 2nd nature habits for him, in terms of getting his name out there, getting the people who dislike him outrage over something out of context, and in turn that leading to his followers doubling down.

no, he's just being a big baby.

[ItsMillerTime]

He was just copy and pasting a negative NY Times article about himself, through multiple Tweets.

Trump is playing 3D chess. This is all fundamental, 2nd nature habits for him, in terms of getting his name out there, getting the people who dislike him outrage over something out of context, and in turn that leading to his followers doubling down.

You ever think you might be autistic? Like, honestly considered it?

[hold this L]

That is some serious sociopath behavior

Yeah, the guy is insane

[Axe]

There's only thing left to be said.

God bless america.

[Manny98]

He was just copy and pasting a negative NY Times article about himself, through multiple Tweets.

Trump is playing 3D chess. This is all fundamental, 2nd nature habits for him, in terms of getting his name out there, getting the people who dislike him outrage over something out of context, and in turn that leading to his followers doubling down.
This, Trump is a top tier troll :applause:

[Derka]

Gone? He’s made a career and won an election by being reliably full retard at all times. That’s his brand. Ultimate Luxury Retard.

Airplanes with gold toilets! Somehow bankrupting a casino! Mexico’s paying for the wall!

[DoctorP]

This, Trump is a top tier troll :applause:

if only he were an insidehoops member and not the president of the united states :lol

i agree he's a master troll.

[SouBeachTalents]

Why do people assume he's trolling in this instance? You don't think he's legitimately trying to brag about his ratings?

[DoctorP]

Gone? He’s made a career and won an election by being reliably full retard at all times. That’s his brand. Ultimate Luxury Retard.

Airplanes with gold toilets! Somehow bankrupting a casino! Mexico’s paying for the wall!

this is true but now he needs to show some Independence Day (the movie)-like diplomatic skills and he seems to be a toxic, one-trick pony.

he is failing.

[DoctorP]

Why do people assume he's trolling in this instance? You don't think he's legitimately trying to brag about his ratings?

maybe a little of both. lets see how Trump maneuvers out of this shitstorm. One of his many :lol

[SouBeachTalents]

maybe a little of both.
I honestly don't think Trump has that kind of clever or subtle sense of humor or "trolling" in this case. I think y'all give him too much credit in that regard :lol This is just a narcissistic man bragging about his ratings with absolutely zero awareness

[DoctorP]

I honestly don't think Trump has that kind of clever or subtle sense of humor or "trolling" in this case. I think y'all give him too much credit in that regard :lol This is just a narcissistic man bragging about his ratings with absolutely zero awareness

he has shown major capacity to troll very effectively during debates and against political enemies and on Twitter like calling Kim-Jong "Rocketman", etc

and then on top of that is the narcissism from having the ego of a ceo

[SouBeachTalents]

he has shown major capacity to troll very effectively during debates and against political enemies and on Twitter like calling Kim-Jong "Rocketman", etc
I don't doubt his trolling skills, but he is absolutely never subtle about it. It's always blatant and extremely obvious when he does it

[DoctorP]

I don't doubt his trolling skills, but he is absolutely never subtle about it. It's always blatant and extremely obvious when he does it

yes. so either by trolling or by being a clueless self-promoter, the guy is being majorly douchey at a critical point in time when many people are DYING. Not a good look for the pres, who considers himself a straight-edge authoritarian. He's looking more like a right-wing anarchist

[DoctorP]

somebodys mother just died.

Trump be like:

https://media.giphy.com/media/m9orjVs9WxPmuVdlB8/giphy.gif

"My ratings is hot"

[Lakers Legend#32]

Invoke the 25th Amendment.
He is full-blown insane.

[Stephonit]

By the reactions I've seen on this board and current polls, Trump is still going to win the election.

[DoctorP]

Invoke the 25th Amendment.
He is full-blown insane.

it might be time to do just that.

[Cleverness]

weird flex but ok

must be appealing to those young bernie bros

4d chess

:eek:

[Facepalm]

he has shown major capacity to troll very effectively during debates and against political enemies and on Twitter like calling Kim-Jong "Rocketman", etc

and then on top of that is the narcissism from having the ego of a ceo

His insults are on a grade school level. The average ISHiot comes up with more clever insults than him.

[DoctorP]

His insults are on a grade school level. The average ISHiot comes up with more clever insults than him.

yeah but he does well for an old guy. He's no George Carlin but he kills the nerdy politician types

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump delays Easter to July 15th so he can keep his promise on Coronavirus.
Yep, he's gone full on retard.

[MaxFly]

This is pretty much on-brand for him. All of these statements will make a re-appearance sometime during the summer and fall election season.

[John Connor]

Donald Trump is beyond incredibly insecure. He's thin skinned and it causes him to say and do things that are beyond silly for someone that is the POTUS. There's no disputing that or arguing with it or calling it anything other than what it is. He is deeply insecure.

However, anyone that thinks he's actually retarded or that he's stupid or even that he's of average intelligence or below... well, they're not paying attention, they're easily manipulated by the media and they're likely stupid themselves. Donald Trump, even with the help from his father, did not just get to where he is at both in business and in politics... on accident. Donald Trump is extremely socially aware and very good at manipulating people to achieve what he wants. He's significantly more clever than a large portion of people give him credit for.

I am not a Donald Trump fan and I will not vote for him but anyone who thinks he's just a complete idiot that lucked into everything he has achieved in life... well... there's a strong chance that they're the stupid one.

[DoctorP]

Donald Trump is beyond incredibly insecure. He's thin skinned and it causes him to say and do things that are beyond silly for someone that is the POTUS. There's no disputing that or arguing with it or calling it anything other than what it is. He is deeply insecure.

However, anyone that thinks he's actually retarded or that he's stupid or even that he's of average intelligence or below... well, they're not paying attention, they're easily manipulated by the media and they're likely stupid themselves. Donald Trump, even with the help from his father, did not just get to where he is at both in business and in politics... on accident. Donald Trump is extremely socially aware and very good at manipulating people to achieve what he wants. He's significantly more clever than a large portion of people give him credit for.

I am not a Donald Trump fan and I will not vote for him but anyone who thinks he's just a complete idiot that lucked into everything he has achieved in life... well... there's a strong chance that they're the stupid one.

he's already saving face as he usually does with some decent press conferences. on to the next gaffe...

[SouBeachTalents]

Donald Trump is beyond incredibly insecure. He's thin skinned and it causes him to say and do things that are beyond silly for someone that is the POTUS. There's no disputing that or arguing with it or calling it anything other than what it is. He is deeply insecure.

However, anyone that thinks he's actually retarded or that he's stupid or even that he's of average intelligence or below... well, they're not paying attention, they're easily manipulated by the media and they're likely stupid themselves. Donald Trump, even with the help from his father, did not just get to where he is at both in business and in politics... on accident. Donald Trump is extremely socially aware and very good at manipulating people to achieve what he wants. He's significantly more clever than a large portion of people give him credit for.

I am not a Donald Trump fan and I will not vote for him but anyone who thinks he's just a complete idiot that lucked into everything he has achieved in life... well... there's a strong chance that they're the stupid one.
Trump got a substantial head start from his father, there's no disputing that. And I honestly don't think he's even that great of a businessman, the guy has had literally a dozen+ business failings ranging from steaks to vodka to most infamously Atlantic City, and he's had to declare bankruptcy 4 times.

I think where he does excel is marketing, branding and being an entertainer. He managed to brand the Trump name as being synonymous with luxury and success, and even though he has a track record that suggests otherwise, he's managed to convince roughly half the country he's a savvy businessman. He's also very good, as most successful politicians are, at being manipulative and preying on peoples fears.

I definitely wouldn't call him stupid, he actually sounded a lot more intelligent and articulate when he was younger. But now in his advanced age, he definitely says and does some really stupid things, and his ignorance on several issues, like with this virus, has been costly.

[Axe]

Donald Trump is beyond incredibly insecure. He's thin skinned and it causes him to say and do things that are beyond silly for someone that is the POTUS. There's no disputing that or arguing with it or calling it anything other than what it is. He is deeply insecure.

However, anyone that thinks he's actually retarded or that he's stupid or even that he's of average intelligence or below... well, they're not paying attention, they're easily manipulated by the media and they're likely stupid themselves. Donald Trump, even with the help from his father, did not just get to where he is at both in business and in politics... on accident. Donald Trump is extremely socially aware and very good at manipulating people to achieve what he wants. He's significantly more clever than a large portion of people give him credit for.

I am not a Donald Trump fan and I will not vote for him but anyone who thinks he's just a complete idiot that lucked into everything he has achieved in life... well... there's a strong chance that they're the stupid one.
Gosh, that is a very bold statement, indeed.

[jstern]

Donald Trump is beyond incredibly insecure. He's thin skinned and it causes him to say and do things that are beyond silly for someone that is the POTUS. There's no disputing that or arguing with it or calling it anything other than what it is. He is deeply insecure.

However, anyone that thinks he's actually retarded or that he's stupid or even that he's of average intelligence or below... well, they're not paying attention, they're easily manipulated by the media and they're likely stupid themselves. Donald Trump, even with the help from his father, did not just get to where he is at both in business and in politics... on accident. Donald Trump is extremely socially aware and very good at manipulating people to achieve what he wants. He's significantly more clever than a large portion of people give him credit for.

I am not a Donald Trump fan and I will not vote for him but anyone who thinks he's just a complete idiot that lucked into everything he has achieved in life... well... there's a strong chance that they're the stupid one.

I always say that Donald Trump has a very high social IQ. I've never heard anyone else say that.

[Turbo Slayer]

Ok.

[John Connor]

Trump got a substantial head start from his father, there's no disputing that. And I honestly don't think he's even that great of a businessman, the guy has had literally a dozen+ business failings ranging from steaks to vodka to most infamously Atlantic City, and he's had to declare bankruptcy 4 times.

I think where he does excel is marketing, branding and being an entertainer. He managed to brand the Trump name as being synonymous with luxury and success, and even though he has a track record that suggests otherwise, he's managed to convince roughly half the country he's a savvy businessman. He's also very good, as most successful politicians are, at being manipulative and preying on peoples fears.

I definitely wouldn't call him stupid, he actually sounded a lot more intelligent and articulate when he was younger. But now in his advanced age, he definitely says and does some really stupid things, and his ignorance on several issues, like with this virus, has been costly.

I mean saying he’s great at marketing is essentially what I was driving at in a roundabout way when I was talking about his social ability but marketing is surely not the only area in which he excels. And while yes it is true that he had to file various bankruptcies, there he sits with millions if not billions and billions of dollars... arguably the most powerful individual on the entire planet.

As far as the virus goes... I’m not sure specifically what you mean because I haven’t stayed glued to the news about this but I definitely think there are some holes in his intelligence... I mean this is a guy that used to go on Alex Jones’ show with some quasi-regularity if I recall correctly... I know that he went on at least once which is one time too many.

The overall point that I was making was basically just that it’s incredibly incorrect and very dismissive to just label Trump as an idiot. There are definitely aspects to his intellect that far exceed the average person’s so it’s just flat out factually incorrect to label him as stupid and be so dismissive of his overall cognitive ability.

[Hawker]

I mean saying he’s great at marketing is essentially what I was driving at in a roundabout way when I was talking about his social ability but marketing is surely not the only area in which he excels. And while yes it is true that he had to file various bankruptcies, there he sits with millions if not billions and billions of dollars... arguably the most powerful individual on the entire planet.

As far as the virus goes... I’m not sure specifically what you mean because I haven’t stayed glued to the news about this but I definitely think there are some holes in his intelligence... I mean this is a guy that used to go on Alex Jones’ show with some quasi-regularity if I recall correctly... I know that he went on at least once which is one time too many.

The overall point that I was making was basically just that it’s incredibly incorrect and very dismissive to just label Trump as an idiot. There are definitely aspects to his intellect that far exceed the average person’s so it’s just flat out factually incorrect to label him as stupid and be so dismissive of his overall cognitive ability.

You diss Alex Jones but he's in total agreement with you on your economics theory.

I think it's badass he went on Alex Jones. He only did it (I think) at the beginning of his campaign. He was bucking the mainstream and appealing to people outside of the mainstream. To me, that's pretty cool.

Your overall point though is spot on.

[John Connor]

You diss Alex Jones but he's in total agreement with you on your economics theory.

I think it's badass he went on Alex Jones. He only did it (I think) at the beginning of his campaign. He was bucking the mainstream and appealing to people outside of the mainstream. To me, that's pretty cool.

Your overall point though is spot on.

Alex Jones' job is to sell fear. There are undoubtedly some things that he covers that are accurate but a lot of it is garbage and there's too much garbage to wade through in order to find the useful information.

[Norcaliblunt]

Alex Jones sold out by supporting Trump. For years it was 911 was an inside job. Then all of a sudden we need a Muslim ban. Lol.

[~primetime~]

Alex Jones' job is to sell fear. There are undoubtedly some things that he covers that are accurate but a lot of it is garbage and there's too much garbage to wade through in order to find the useful information.

Yep, then there's also the hypocrisy of siding with Alex Jones while at the same time whining about "fake news" every day.

[ZenMaster]

Yep, then there's also the hypocrisy of siding with Alex Jones while at the same time whining about "fake news" every day.

I saw one interesting thing with Alex Jones, it was him talking about the Vegas shooting under oath at a deposition when he was being sued. He was pretty adamant that he had a source inside the CIA on his take there, and had signed an NDA to be allowed to see something.
I thought it was note worthy because he admitted to a lot during that deposition, talking about how he'd just report stories from various users, 4 chan etc, but when they briefly talked about Vegas he was quite different.

[ZenMaster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=78&v=IW3bJvZANBc&feature=emb_logo

[Horatio33]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=78&v=IW3bJvZANBc&feature=emb_logo

I think he's confusing negative for reality in that propaganda video.

[ZenMaster]

I think he's confusing negative for reality in that propaganda video.

Or maybe the point went right over your head.

[DoctorP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=78&v=IW3bJvZANBc&feature=emb_logo

Trump has the right idea, I wish him luck for all of us. That said, this is where a female president would be ideal. I'd rather get my cheerleading from a woman. Women can be much more empathetic than men, generally speaking. That also said, women can also cut a man's dick off for being scorned.

[Doomsday Dallas]

there is a difference between hope and false hope... and President Bane is providing false hope.

https://heartfeltthoughtsandwritings.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/bane-quote.jpg

[DoctorP]

there is a difference between hope and false hope... and President Bane is providing false hope.

https://heartfeltthoughtsandwritings.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/bane-quote.jpg

this is stupid (low IQ, retarded). There can also be no true hope without despair. Derp.

No wonder Batman kicked Bane's ass.

"Hey, let's get two antonyms and form a sentence! yeah!"

luv ya, Nolan.

:lol

[tpols]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=78&v=IW3bJvZANBc&feature=emb_logo

Trump is awesome.

The GOAT in a sea of puppets and sheep.

[TheMan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=78&v=IW3bJvZANBc&feature=emb_logo
Lol, rewriting history...anybody that falls for this crock of shit is a gullible mouthbreather.

It's one thing to be positive in public and behind doors work at trying get ahead of the upcoming threat and another to not do anything at all until shit hit the fan. Dude literally said everything was in control...shit don't look in control to me.

Trump fukked up hugely but spin doctors will do their thing.

[bladefd]

Lol, rewriting history...anybody that falls for this crock of shit is a gullible mouthbreather.

It's one thing to be positive in public and behind doors work at trying get ahead of the upcoming threat and another to not do anything at all until shit hit the fan. Dude literally said everything was in control...shit don't look in control to me.

Trump fukked up hugely but spin doctors will do their thing.

I wanted to post the timeline of Trump mocking coronavirus all the way until end of February and continuing to downplay it until 2 weeks ago deep into March, but can't find that post (too lazy to create another long timeline post). How dare they try to shift that narrative now into "Ohh he always knew the seriousness and was only saying that stuff to give people hope" :facepalm

Blatant lie, and I bet most Trumpeters will suck it up

[DoctorP]

I wanted to post the timeline of Trump mocking coronavirus all the way until end of February and continuing to downplay it until 2 weeks ago deep into March. How dare they try to shift that narrative now into "Ohh he always knew the seriousness and was only saying that stuff to give people hope" :facepalm

Blatant lie, and I bet most Trumpeters will suck it up

its politics dude. he's trying to fix his error.

[SouBeachTalents]

I wanted to post the timeline of Trump mocking coronavirus all the way until end of February and continuing to downplay it until 2 weeks ago deep into March, but can't find that post (too lazy to create another long timeline post). How dare they try to shift that narrative now into "Ohh he always knew the seriousness and was only saying that stuff to give people hope" :facepalm

Blatant lie, and I bet most Trumpeters will suck it up
And don't forget it was recently he said he expected things to open back up by Easter :oldlol:

[Levity]

I think he's confusing negative for reality in that propaganda video.

lol this.

that whole video is very 7th heaven

[DoctorP]

The "positive misinformation" is like a grandmother telling her kids tall tales to calm them down during a dark time. such a gaffe. well meaning? perhaps. gaffe tho? yea

Trump blabbers, people listen.

I respect the dude fighting the establishment from an underdog position and I know he's not a career politician but gaffes are gaffes.

I like the word gaffe.

[ZenMaster]

Lol, rewriting history...anybody that falls for this crock of shit is a gullible mouthbreather.

It's one thing to be positive in public and behind doors work at trying get ahead of the upcoming threat and another to not do anything at all until shit hit the fan. Dude literally said everything was in control...shit don't look in control to me.

Trump fukked up hugely but spin doctors will do their thing.

You think the situation right now is out of control? Did you not expect society to gradually shut down when more people are getting infected?

People are practicing social distancing, shops and society has been more or less shut down in order flatten the curve.

Lot's of people have been working to find treatment. Lot's of people are working on a vaccine.

The response of the US is very much in line with the response of almost every other Western country, a response to a pandemic that we knew was coming and with no vaccine available. For some reason though, a perception appears that for the US, it is Trump who's creating the outfall and not the virus itself.

Hell in Sweden, the holy grail of goodness and smart people, kids are still going to school.

[SouBeachTalents]

You think the situation right now is out of control? Did you not expect society to gradually shut down when more people are getting infected?

People are practicing social distancing, shops and society has been more or less shut down in order flatten the curve.

Lot's of people have been working to find treatment. Lot's of people are working on a vaccine.

The response of the US is very much in line with the response of almost every other Western country, a response to a pandemic that we knew was coming and with no vaccine available. For some reason though, a perception appears that for the US, it is Trump who's creating the outfall and not the virus itself.

Hell in Sweden, the holy grail of goodness and smart people, kids are still going to school.
I don't think anyone rational is blaming Trump for the virus, but it's pretty clear he did not take this seriously, or at least seriously enough. He seemed nonchalant about the whole thing, even talked about it being hyped up to hurt his election chances in November, before recently finally coming to terms with the severity of the situation

[ZenMaster]

And don't forget it was recently he said he expected things to open back up by Easter :oldlol:

Would love to see a link to a video of him actually saying that.

[DoctorP]

Would love to see a link to a video of him actually saying that.

it's real. i saw it.

[SouBeachTalents]

Would love to see a link to a video of him actually saying that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8MmfceRLFU

[ZenMaster]

I don't think anyone rational is blaming Trump for the virus, but it's pretty clear he did not take this seriously, or at least seriously enough. He seemed nonchalant about the whole thing, even talked about it being hyped up to hurt his election chances in November, before recently finally coming to terms with the severity of the situation

The general media portrayal I'm seeing, and this is not in a direct sense but more holistic, is that they're trying to create a connection between the victims of this virus and the response or lack of from Trump.
They are trying to paint a picture that the US is much worse hit than other Western countries, because the lack of response.
Fact is that the US is hit more or less on the same level as Europe, because the response is very similar.

Yes Trump sounded stupid when he was trying to downplay the severity of the virus while talking to the public, but if he really thought that, then how come the response made by the US follows that of other Western countries?

[DoctorP]

The general media portrayal I'm seeing, and this is not in a direct sense but more holistic, is that they're trying to create a connection between the victims of this virus and the response or lack of from Trump.
They are trying to paint a picture that the US is much worse hit than other Western countries, because the lack of response.
Fact is that the US is hit more or less on the same level as Europe, because the response is very similar.

Yes Trump sounded stupid when he was trying to downplay the severity of the virus while talking to the public, but if he really thought that, then how come the response made by the US follows that of other Western countries?

Trumps mouth (and Twitter), as usual, gets him in trouble even if his policies are decent. The mainstream media, his opponent, use these errors in judgement to villainize him. This is year 4 now.

[TheMan]

You think the situation right now is out of control? Did you not expect society to gradually shut down when more people are getting infected?

People are practicing social distancing, shops and society has been more or less shut down in order flatten the curve.

Lot's of people have been working to find treatment. Lot's of people are working on a vaccine.

The response of the US is very much in line with the response of almost every other Western country, a response to a pandemic that we knew was coming and with no vaccine available. For some reason though, a perception appears that for the US, it is Trump who's creating the outfall and not the virus itself.

Hell in Sweden, the holy grail of goodness and smart people, kids are still going to school.
If you don't think Trump has bungled his response to this outbreak than there is no point in even debating with you. There isn't one Trump critic that blames him for the virus but we had at least two months to do something about it. WHO was warning us for the potential of a global pandemic, China was a shit show months before it started happening in Europe and then later in the US...but Trump was too busy calling it a hoax instead of ramping up on PPE, ventilators and accepting the covid19 tests the WHO was offering. His biggest concern was not upsetting Wall Street because it might negatively affect his chances in November, hence his overly rosey tone as Europe was in chaos.

[ZenMaster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8MmfceRLFU

I mean, the guy talks funny, but yeah he says that the goal is to open up the country again(that's the goal of every other government in every other country as well).

Then he says that he HOPES that can happen by Easter and how great it would be if that was possible.

He doesn't use the word "expects" though.

[DoctorP]

I mean, the guy talks funny, but yeah he says that the goal is to open up the country again(that's the goal of every other government in every other country as well).

Then he says that he HOPES that can happen by Easter and how great it would be if that was possible.

He doesn't use the word "expects" though.

False hopes trigger the triggered.

[TheMan]

False hope is just that, false, especially when stats and medical experts say otherwise.

I'd rather a leader tell me that damn truth, no matter how ugly it is rather than tell me everything is gonna be ok and the later tell us it's gonna be a shit show, as Trump has been doing recently, claiming that if ONLY 240,000 die, he did a good job :roll:

[ZenMaster]

If you don't think Trump has bungled his response to this outbreak than there is no point in even debating with you. There isn't one Trump critic that blames him for the virus but we had at least two months to do something about it. WHO was warning us for the potential of a global pandemic, China was a shit show months before it started happening in Europe and then later in the US...but Trump was too busy calling it a hoax instead of ramping up on PPE, ventilators and accepting the covid19 tests the WHO was offering. His biggest concern was not upsetting Wall Street because it might negatively affect his chances in November, hence his overly rosey tone as Europe was in chaos.

But things have been and still are being done about it.

It's a virus without vaccine, that is airborne, yes people WILL get infected. It was a concern of all Western country leaders, to not shut down the economy until necessary, because our general system does not allow for it to be shut down for long.

Again, the response of the US more or less mirrors that of the rest of the Western world and how the US is affected also more or less mirrors the rest of the Western world.

[DoctorP]

But things have been and still are being done about it.

It's a virus without vaccine, that is airborne, yes people WILL get infected. It was a concern of all Western country leaders, to not shut down the economy until necessary, because our general system does not allow for it to be shut down for long.

Again, the response of the US more or less mirrors that of the rest of the Western world and how us is affected also more or less mirrors the rest of the Western world.

not the point. the point is Trump haters and Trumps gaffes. get it.

[ZenMaster]

False hope is just that, false, especially when stats and medical experts say otherwise.

I'd rather a leader tell me that damn truth, no matter how ugly it is rather than tell me everything is gonna be ok and the later tell us it's gonna be a shit show, as Trump has been doing recently, claiming that if ONLY 240,000 die, he did a good job :roll:

You don't agree with that statement? Remember that the goal was always to flatten the curve, not to stop the disease because we can't without a vaccine or fast cure.

Just a couple weeks ago the going projections here was for 75-150 million Americans to get infected and a 3.4% mortality rate resulting in millions of deaths.

[ZenMaster]

Trumps mouth (and Twitter), as usual, gets him in trouble even if his policies are decent. The mainstream media, his opponent, use these errors in judgement to villainize him. This is year 4 now.

That's part of it, the other part of it is the media trying to convey their own message on behalf of the politicians they represent.

[Facepalm]

The general media portrayal I'm seeing, and this is not in a direct sense but more holistic, is that they're trying to create a connection between the victims of this virus and the response or lack of from Trump.
They are trying to paint a picture that the US is much worse hit than other Western countries, because the lack of response.
Fact is that the US is hit more or less on the same level as Europe, because the response is very similar.

Yes Trump sounded stupid when he was trying to downplay the severity of the virus while talking to the public, but if he really thought that, then how come the response made by the US follows that of other Western countries?

The problem is...we should not be similar to Europe at all. We had more time to prepare than they did. Trump was given a head start and he still bungled it.

[John Connor]

The problem is...we should not be similar to Europe at all. We had more time to prepare than they did. Trump was given a head start and he still bungled it.

This virus was coming here no matter what, I love how people try to blame Trump for the state of COVID-19 in the United States. Laughable. Pathetic. Hilarious. So many words describe my feelings on that thought.

Short of completely and I do mean completely barring international travel, completely barring foreign trade, including but not limited to restricting all United States citizens from coming back into the country, this was coming here no matter what other steps we took and we were not going to be prepared. That was never going to happen with this president or any other president in the history of the United States. Not a single one would have taken the necessary steps to keep it completely out of the country.

Do you think him never being in denial about it for a few weeks or not calling it a hoax would have changed anything?

Even after everything the media has done to cover this story, there is a significantly large portion of the population that does not take this seriously in the slightest and are ignorantly continuing to spread it all day long. That has absolutely nothing to do with Donald Trump.

There was no way for him to navigate this properly. What do you want from him, to get on TV and talk calmly every day with no personality? Ok, maybe so, but that was never going to change anything.

You people are just looking for a target to be upset at, and like clockwork, it's Donald Trump. It's fascinating, really.

[John Connor]

Also, I'd like to add, there was never going to be enough PPE gear regardless of what Trump could have realistically done or not done. A lot of that type of stuff is made in China, and they had already swooped swaths of it up domestically and internationally, including in the US, to send back home before our public even began to realize the extent of the problem.

What president would have shut down GM ahead of time and invoked a war time law in order to commandeer the company in order to try to properly beef up our ventilator numbers? None of them. Not a single president.

Just calm down and breathe for a second. This was going to happen no matter what. It was going to be bad no matter what, and a different president wouldn't have changed anything.

[Hawker]

This virus was coming here no matter what, I love how people try to blame Trump for the state of COVID-19 in the United States. Laughable. Pathetic. Hilarious. So many words describe my feelings on that thought.

Short of completely and I do mean completely barring international travel, completely barring foreign trade, including but not limited to restricting all United States citizens from coming back into the country, this was coming here no matter what other steps we took and we were not going to be prepared. That was never going to happen with this president or any other president in the history of the United States. Not a single one would have taken the necessary steps to keep it completely out of the country.

Do you think him never being in denial about it for a few weeks or not calling it a hoax would have changed anything?

Even after everything the media has done to cover this story, there is a significantly large portion of the population that does not take this seriously in the slightest and are ignorantly continuing to spread it all day long. That has absolutely nothing to do with Donald Trump.

There was no way for him to navigate this properly. What do you want from him, to get on TV and talk calmly every day with no personality? Ok, maybe so, but that was never going to change anything.

You people are just looking for a target to be upset at, and like clockwork, it's Donald Trump. It's fascinating, really.

:cheers:

You can tell because they never say anything about what he did do or didn't do without looking it up. It's simply "It's Trumps fault."

[kabar]

This virus was coming here no matter what, I love how people try to blame Trump for the state of COVID-19 in the United States. Laughable. Pathetic. Hilarious. So many words describe my feelings on that thought.

Short of completely and I do mean completely barring international travel, completely barring foreign trade, including but not limited to restricting all United States citizens from coming back into the country, this was coming here no matter what other steps we took and we were not going to be prepared. That was never going to happen with this president or any other president in the history of the United States. Not a single one would have taken the necessary steps to keep it completely out of the country.

Do you think him never being in denial about it for a few weeks or not calling it a hoax would have changed anything?

Even after everything the media has done to cover this story, there is a significantly large portion of the population that does not take this seriously in the slightest and are ignorantly continuing to spread it all day long. That has absolutely nothing to do with Donald Trump.

There was no way for him to navigate this properly. What do you want from him, to get on TV and talk calmly every day with no personality? Ok, maybe so, but that was never going to change anything.

You people are just looking for a target to be upset at, and like clockwork, it's Donald Trump. It's fascinating, really.

It's strange you refuse to acknowledge Trump's public messaging and its effects. Downplaying of the virus for months had a very real impact on public education to wash their hands, cover their mouths when coughing, staying away from each other. We will not know how long it was circulating in the states until we get large scale antibody testing data so it's up in the air what the travel ban really accomplished in numbers. Wuhan shut down on Jan 23rd, it's very possible tourists had already been infected and travelling through European airports infecting Americans travelling for eight days before the travel ban. On the same day, Secretary Azar declared a public health emergency on Jan 31st while Trump was later on Fox News contradicting his health agency. When Trump says the problem is going away for weeks, it obviously had a direct effect in the public taking the guidelines seriously.

[Hawker]

It's strange you refuse to acknowledge Trump's public messaging and its effects. Downplaying of the virus for months had a very real impact on public education to wash their hands, cover their mouths when coughing, staying away from each other. We will not know how long it was circulating in the states until we get large scale antibody testing data so it's up in the air what the travel ban really accomplished in numbers. Wuhan shut down on Jan 23rd, it's very possible tourists had already been infected and travelling through European airports infecting Americans travelling for eight days before the travel ban. On the same day, Secretary Azar declared a public health emergency on Jan 31st while Trump was later on Fox News contradicting his health agency. When Trump says the problem is going away for weeks, it obviously had a direct effect in the public taking the guidelines seriously.

Yet people still aren't doing it. That was his point.

[TheMan]

Also, I'd like to add, there was never going to be enough PPE gear regardless of what Trump could have realistically done or not done. A lot of that type of stuff is made in China, and they had already swooped swaths of it up domestically and internationally, including in the US, to send back home before our public even began to realize the extent of the problem.

What president would have shut down GM ahead of time and invoked a war time law in order to commandeer the company in order to try to properly beef up our ventilator numbers? None of them. Not a single president.

Just calm down and breathe for a second. This was going to happen no matter what. It was going to be bad no matter what, and a different president wouldn't have changed anything.

He could've at the very least not refuse the covid19 tests the World Health Organization were offering...The richest country on Earth with some of the best doctors/scientists on disease control got blind sided, and yeah bro, the buck stops at the top. Can't handle the heat, get the fukk out of the kitchen. South Korea had 10s of thousands of tests going on quickly and they contained the outbreak but for the most powerful country in the history of the world, it was too much to ask of it...ok.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/us/testing-coronavirus-pandemic.html

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/south-korea-covid-19-containment-testing/

[Hawker]

He could've at the very least not refuse the covid19 tests the World Health Organization were offering...The richest country on Earth with some of the best doctors/scientists on disease control got blind sided, and yeah bro, the buck stops at the top. Can't handle the heat, get the fukk out of the kitchen. South Korea had 10s of thousands of tests going on quickly and they contained the outbreak but for the most powerful country in the history of the world, it was too much to ask of it...ok.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/us/testing-coronavirus-pandemic.html

It is an absolute lie that the US rejected WHO tests. The US was never offered the WHO tests. The CDC came up with their own like every other developed country.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/16/joe-biden/biden-falsely-says-trump-administration-rejected-w/

That article you posted brings up the regulations and red tape that is currently in place that hampered the response. Funny how the dems that always champion these regulations conveniently omit that.

[kabar]

Yet people still aren't doing it. That was his point.
There are definitely more people doing it after Trump's messaging changed.

[TheMan]

It is an absolute lie that the US rejected WHO tests. The US was never offered the WHO tests. The CDC came up with their own like every other developed country.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/16/joe-biden/biden-falsely-says-trump-administration-rejected-w/

That article you posted brings up the regulations and red tape that is currently in place that hampered the response. Funny how the dems that always champion these regulations conveniently omit that.
I read somewhere that the US refused WHO covid19 tests early on. Anyways, someone sent me this...

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/llCm56V

[ZenMaster]

I read somewhere that the US refused WHO covid19 tests early on. Anyways, someone sent me this...

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/llCm56V

So you were reading fake news or what are you saying here?

[TheMan]

So you were reading fake news or what are you saying here?

Looks like it, but rather than dig in, if someone presents me with facts as to why I'm mistaken, I'll admit to it. Too many people, on both sides of the aisle go through mental gymnastics trying to argue they are right, even when presented with facts showing they are wrong.

[DoctorP]

https://youtu.be/Zb_WzB1Wm2w

Boom. Truth.

Like many, Trump gaffed on this. Time to realize it and move on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/TUfdHX3MhcahHYpe8zx5dlSUc6Y=/1440x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/ASERXF7A4M34REPLRFRZS2QM2Q.gif

[Hawker]

I read somewhere that the US refused WHO covid19 tests early on. Anyways, someone sent me this...

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/llCm56V

The pandemic response wasn't "disbanded" either.

You really need to perform some self-analysis and question where you're getting your info from more often.

[TheMan]

The pandemic response wasn't "disbanded" either.

You really need to perform some self-analysis and question where you're getting your info from more often.

You are fake news

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/




Did Trump Administration Fire the US Pandemic Response Team?
As a new coronavirus spread in 2020, so did concerns about the United States' preparedness for a potential pandemic.

Claim

The Trump administration fired the U.S. pandemic response team in 2018 to cut costs.

Rating

True

Origin
Amid warnings from public health officials that a 2020 outbreak of a new coronavirus could soon become a pandemic involving the U.S., alarmed readers asked Snopes to verify a rumor that U.S. President Donald Trump had “fired the entire pandemic response team two years ago and then didn’t replace them.”

(article too long, click link to read it complete)

Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer abruptly departed from his post leading the global health security team on the National Security Council in May 2018 amid a reorganization of the council by then-National Security Advisor John Bolton, and Ziemer’s team was disbanded. Tom Bossert, whom the Washington Post reported “had called for a comprehensive biodefense strategy against pandemics and biological attacks,” had been fired one month prior.

It’s thus true that the Trump administration axed the executive branch team responsible for coordinating a response to a pandemic and did not replace it, eliminating Ziemer’s position and reassigning others, although Bolton was the executive at the top of the National Security Council chain of command at the time.
Legum stated in a follow-up tweet that “Trump also cut funding for the CDC, forcing the CDC to cancel its efforts to help countries prevent infectious-disease threats from becoming epidemics in 39 of 49 countries in 2018. Among the countries abandoned? China.” That was partly true, according to 2018 news reports stating that funding for the CDC’s global disease outbreak prevention efforts had been reduced by 80%, including funding for the agency’s efforts in China.

But that was the result of the anticipated depletion of previously allotted funding, not a direct cut by the Trump administration. And as the CDC told FactCheck.org, the cuts were ultimately avoided because Congress provided other funding.

On Feb. 24, 2020, the Trump administration requested $2.5 billion to address the coronavirus outbreak, an outlay critics asserted might not have been necessary if the previous program cuts had not taken place. Fortune reported of the issue that:

The cuts could be especially problematic as COVID-19 continues to spread. Health officials are now warning the U.S. is unlikely to be spared, even though cases are minimal here so far.

The coronavirus was first detected in Wuhan, China, in the winter of 2019, and cases spread around the globe. The U.S. had 57 confirmed cases as of this writing, while globally, roughly 80,000 patients had been sickened with the virus and 3,000 had died. As of yet, no vaccine or pharmaceutical treatment for the new coronavirus. Data from China suggests the coronavirus has a higher fatality rate than the seasonal flu, although outcomes depend on factors such as the age and underlying health of the patient.

Readers can find the latest coronavirus information from the CDC here.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Don't you people understand?
The real story is his ratings!

[DoctorP]

Don't you people understand?
The real story is his ratings!

:lol

[Hawker]

You are fake news

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/

Again, not true.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/17/instagram-posts/celebrities-are-sharing-misleading-post-about-trum/

Ziemer left. He wasn't "eliminated."


In May 2018, Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, the senior director of global health and biodefense on the National Security Council, left the administration. He was in charge of the U.S. response to pandemics.

After Ziemer’s departure, the global health team was reorganized as part of an effort by then-National Security Adviser John Bolton. Meanwhile, Tom Bossert, a homeland security adviser who recommended strong defenses against disease, left shortly after Bolton arrived.

The White House didn’t replace either White House official or his team. Instead, Trump looked within his administration to fill roles for the coronavirus response.

In January, Trump appointed his Health and Human Services secretary, Alex Azar, to chair a coronavirus task force. On Feb. 26, he announced that Vice President Mike Pence would take charge of the U.S. response to the coronavirus.

[BurningHammer]

Don't you people understand?
The real story is his ratings!

THIS.

Trump doesn't care about any of you, only himself and upcoming election.

Take all credits. Take no responsibility.

[DoctorP]

https://i.ibb.co/ygyRRpC/25-B00413-1-EB6-4-E49-A418-37-E24-C0-D13-D1.jpg

[DoctorP]

this meme belongs here

https://i.ibb.co/gRmJKXW/44041040-D06-F-4-E1-C-A19-A-4-FA796923502.jpg

:lol oh, Don.

[Levity]

:lol

[LAmbruh]

this meme belongs here

https://i.ibb.co/gRmJKXW/44041040-D06-F-4-E1-C-A19-A-4-FA796923502.jpg

:lol oh, Don.

:lol

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump said people should wear scarves instead of surgical masks because they are heavier.
Do you ever see surgeons in a operating room wearing scarfs?
Trump is stupid.

[DoctorP]

Trump at full retard is still smarter than most.
Certainly smarter than LeBron.

Trumps old.

[The Iron Fist]

Cannot defend Trump on this, or a lot of the things he's done lately but come election time are you going to vote for the guy in love with the sound of his own name or the guy who can't even remember his own name?

I’m going with the guy who didn’t say “take the guns first, due process second.”

[RRR3]

Lmao we’d be in a much better position if LeBron was president. He wouldn’t have dismantled the pandemic teams.

DoctorPee strikes again.

[The Iron Fist]

The problem is...we should not be similar to Europe at all. We had more time to prepare than they did. Trump was given a head start and he still bungled it.

Exactly. This is supposed to be the greatest country in the world, the country who lead the way. The country with all the brilliance, money and military might. But now people are suddenly content with being the same as everyone else. Cults are real. And this cult affects us all.

[LAmbruh]

it's just a flu bro

[DoctorP]

Lmao we’d be in a much better position if LeBron was president. He wouldn’t have dismantled the pandemic teams.

DoctorPee strikes again.

yeah sure, kid.

[tomdaw]

well, he´s really weird sometimes

[DoctorP]

this belongs here '



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFUe1OWoLj8

[hateraid]

All his tweets have a purpose. They're all pretty intentional. And he's getting the results he wants.

Kind of like OP

[Hittin_Shots]

Exactly. This is supposed to be the greatest country in the world, the country who lead the way. The country with all the brilliance, money and military might. But now people are suddenly content with being the same as everyone else. Cults are real. And this cult affects us all.

You're aware that's just Americans who think that right?

[Hey Yo]

I bumped it to the next page

[Hey Yo]

I'd say this video shows poor Sleepy Joe going full retard.

“The pandemic is that this President has no intercourse whatsoever with the rest of the world.”

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1257858123576029184

video in link ^^^

[DoctorP]

I'd say this video shows poor Sleepy Joe going full retard.

“The pandemic is that this President has no intercourse whatsoever with the rest of the world.”

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1257858123576029184

video in link ^^^

hes a globalist intercourser

deals w the chinese nikes

[bladefd]

well, he´s really weird sometimes

Can you stop bumping up old threads to get your post count up? How many alt accounts do you have?

[Whoah10115]

I don't know why anyone is holding out hope on him in 2020.

Maybe his kids, that he can avoid Hell. But as President?