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Stephonit
04-02-2020, 01:27 AM
Seldom has a star and his team cut a swath of destruction throughout the league that has felled so many promising contenders as Curry's Warriors. One probably has to go back to Jordan's Bulls to find one that prevented so many esteemed players from winning a championship. So which team was their biggest victim?

Axe
04-02-2020, 01:36 AM
The houston rockets.

Naero
04-02-2020, 02:32 AM
Easily the Rockets. Who else would've been a shoo-in for the championship sans the Warriors?

Some try to sell the "Cavaliers would've beat anyone else" narrative, except their defense was too porous to win against most Finals-levels teams after full seasons under Lue's coaching. They'd most likely lose to whatever Western Conference finalists were waiting for them, especially the aforementioned Rockets.

The 2016 Thunder would've had a fighting chance, but they wouldn't have been the logical favorites against the Cavaliers sans HCA and with Durant's shaky playoffs run.

The Clippers were always too injury-ravaged (or choking-prone) come playoffs time, and they sadly never even matched up with the Warriors during the Lob City era.

The Blazers? Treadmill fodder at best.

2018 was Houston's most golden opportunity to win it all last decade, and they would've done so despite a hobbled Chris Paul if they didn't have the Warriors' Olympian roster to contend with. The rest on the poll were bound to lose to one championship-level team or another barring oppositional injuries; the Warriors just happened to be their eliminators some years.

JohnFreeman
04-02-2020, 09:21 AM
The Warriors are their own victims

They probably have won the easiest rings of all time. Curry lost the FMVP award to Iguodala, embarrassing.

Hey Yo
04-02-2020, 10:30 AM
Curry's Warriors only played 1 game against Kyrie Irving and that was game 1 of the 2015 Finals when GS was victorious.

In 2017, GS was known as KD's Warriors.

Stephonit
04-02-2020, 03:28 PM
Curry's Warriors only played 1 game against Kyrie Irving and that was game 1 of the 2015 Finals when GS was victorious.

In 2017, GS was known as KD's Warriors.


Would KD have joined the Warriors if the Thunder had won the 2016 Western Conference Finals?

No.

It's Curry's Warriors.

tpols
04-02-2020, 03:55 PM
the rockets and thunder at least put up a fight.

Bran's cavs got humiliated.

Chef just had a knack for shitting on them.

SouBeachTalents
04-02-2020, 03:56 PM
the rockets and thunder at least put up a fight.

Bran's cavs got humiliated.

Chef just had a knack for shitting on them.
Bran's Cavs are literally the only team mentioned to have beaten them :oldlol:

Lebron23
04-02-2020, 03:57 PM
Bran's Cavs are literally the only team mentioned to have beaten them :oldlol:

This. Tpols turning into a retard again.

tpols
04-02-2020, 03:58 PM
Bran's Cavs are literally the only team mentioned to have beaten them :oldlol:


the rockets and thunder wouldve easily beat them if there was a suspension to dray... the cavs were getting blown out in 2016 too.

Rockets and Thunder were UP in their series from the start.

SouBeachTalents
04-02-2020, 04:02 PM
the rockets and thunder wouldve easily beat them if there was a suspension to dray... the cavs were getting blown out in 2016 too.

Rockets and Thunder were UP in their series from the start.
The Rockets couldn't even beat the Warriors at home without Durant, so that's just baseless. You also, no surprise, completely overshadow the fact that LeBron won 2 games off the Warriors in 2015 minus Kyrie & Love, so bring up the Dray suspension, but LeBron could've easily been looking at a 2-0 mark against the Warriors before Durant showed up

ArbitraryWater
04-02-2020, 04:18 PM
LeBron viciously owned Curry pre-Durant, be 2-0 without Irving's injury, so gotta take them.

They also would have won the 2017 title against the Spurs, were too dominant offensively.

Akeem34TheDream
04-02-2020, 04:39 PM
Kyrie Irving outplayed Curry. And Irving wasnt even the best player on his team.

Axe
04-02-2020, 05:42 PM
Bran's Cavs are literally the only team mentioned to have beaten them :oldlol:
Yeah but that was a bit short-lived though.

red1
04-02-2020, 05:44 PM
the rockets and thunder at least put up a fight.

Bran's cavs got humiliated.

Chef just had a knack for shitting on them.

what planet do you live on kid. :oldlol:

tpols
04-02-2020, 07:20 PM
The Rockets couldn't even beat the Warriors at home without Durant, so that's just baseless. You also, no surprise, completely overshadow the fact that LeBron won 2 games off the Warriors in 2015 minus Kyrie & Love, so bring up the Dray suspension, but LeBron could've easily been looking at a 2-0 mark against the Warriors before Durant showed up

The Rockets took them to 7 and were up double digits in game 6 & 7 WITH Durant.

In fact, the only reason they lost, was because they were without chris paul. That was the version of the dubs you guys said were unbeatable.

I do think Cleveland would have won in 2015 with a healthy Irving, and the dubs wouldve won handily in 5 in 2016 with dray and bogut not getting knocked out.

The Dubs 3 wins in 2016 were all blowouts. Before they lost their frontcourt... they were decimating Cleveland. Kyrie & Bron being GOAT finishers.. not surprising.

Axe
04-02-2020, 07:27 PM
Yeah but gsw still choked and blew their very own 3-1 lead in the finals.

On the other hand, kd's arrival to the warriors just made a laughingstock of the cavs in their last two finals appearances, especially the one from two years ago which resulted to another inevitable sweep for cleveland.

tpols
04-02-2020, 07:34 PM
Yeah but gsw still choked and blew their very own 3-1 lead in the finals.

On the other hand, kd's arrival to the warriors just made a laughingstock of the cavs in their last two finals appearances, especially the one from two years ago which resulted to another inevitable sweep for cleveland.

everybody commented on how the suspension swung the series... people forget how it happened too.

Golden State was blowing Cleveland out in the 4th quarter IN Cleveland.. to go up 3-1. and Lebron pulled a desperation stunt where he stepped over dray tyronne lue style. Dray tried to push him off with one hand and whiffed. The league upgraded the call after the game to knock him out. It wasnt even in real time.


But besides that, the Durant + Curry team was said to be invincable. They crushed a fully loaded cavs team in 2017.

Yet, a hamstrung Houston the very next year almost knocked them out.

2017 Spurs before the Zaza incident blew them the **** out.

It's obvious they were like rock to the Cav's scissors.

Axe
04-02-2020, 07:44 PM
Yeah, i almost forgot that golden state also benefitted from injury-riddled teams otw to the finals. That's why it felt so good their tricks were used against them last year when they lost to the finals against the "underdog" raptors.

Stanley Kobrick
04-02-2020, 08:07 PM
Kyrie Irving outplayed Curry. And Irving wasnt even the best player on his team.
i agree with you Akeem34TheDream, Stephen never outplayed anyone in the Finals or made any team "his" victim in particular. Damian Lillard blazers is the only team that comes to mind he had a decent series against

warriorfan
04-02-2020, 08:10 PM
In the past 5 years. A healthy Golden State team has never lost.

SouBeachTalents
04-02-2020, 08:13 PM
In the past 5 years. A healthy Golden State team has never lost.
And the Warriors benefited from a major injury during every title run. Kyrie/CP3 don't get injured that could easily be 2 less rings

Stanley Kobrick
04-02-2020, 08:16 PM
And the Warriors benefited from a major injury during every title run. Kyrie/CP3 don't get injured that could easily be 2 less rings
i agree with you SouBeachTalents

RRR3
04-02-2020, 08:29 PM
Tplos STILL melting down from 2016

warriorfan
04-02-2020, 08:31 PM
And the Warriors benefited from a major injury during every title run. Kyrie/CP3 don't get injured that could easily be 2 less rings

In the past 5 years. A healthy Golden State team never has lost.

Cyrus334
04-02-2020, 09:25 PM
Definitely Lebron and the Cavs.

I'm sure Lebron hates that team with a burning passion since they effectively ruined his Finals record by showing up out of nowhere.

Gougou
04-03-2020, 01:28 AM
Lebron's Cavs.

Beat them 3 times in the finals and ruined Lebron's legacy, making his finals record even worse.

Akeem34TheDream
04-03-2020, 02:55 AM
In a fantasy that all NBA players are healthy, GSW might not win a single ring.(Kyrie+KLove in 2015, Kawhi in 2017, Cp3 in 2018). There has never been a franchise luckier than them with injuries.

SouBeachTalents
04-03-2020, 03:03 AM
In a fantasy that all NBA players are healthy, GSW might not win a single ring.(Kyrie+KLove in 2015, Kawhi in 2017, Cp3 in 2018). There has never been a franchise luckier than them with injuries.
2017 is a stretch. I know they were getting their ass kicked Game 1, but I definitely wouldn't put that one on the same level as the injuries in '15 & '18, which really did change the outcome of those series. It was a crucial injury that ended all realistic hopes of the Spurs winning, or even being competitive, but even with a healthy Kawhi I'd still pick the Warriors to win that series.

I still agree with your main point though, I've never seen a team have their run be so defined by injuries, which ironically were their ultimate undoing last year

Axe
04-03-2020, 03:07 AM
In the past 5 years. A healthy Golden State team never has lost.
You think that was the case in 2016?

Stephonit
04-03-2020, 03:16 AM
You think that was the case in 2016?

Yep.

GimmeThat
04-03-2020, 03:28 AM
lets revisit the idea of PER, claiming there's a league average being set at 15.00. No particular team can be a victim of Curry's Warriors, since this statement also includes players' movements as well as idiotic fan bases stars deal with on a regular basis.

in reality, it's a reversal of the claim that the level of satisfaction can be reached by individual can be attained at an equal point; which is, what is the pain level individuals can endure.

this equation however is tied with life expectancy. or otherwise can be simplified as, if one has been discriminated for so long, what is the length by volume it will require to heal them.

Akeem34TheDream
04-03-2020, 03:41 AM
2017 is a stretch. I know they were getting their ass kicked Game 1, but I definitely wouldn't put that one on the same level as the injuries in '15 & '18, which really did change the outcome of those series. It was a crucial injury that ended all realistic hopes of the Spurs winning, or even being competitive, but even with a healthy Kawhi I'd still pick the Warriors to win that series.

I still agree with your main point though, I've never seen a team have their run be so defined by injuries, which ironically were their ultimate undoing last year

Agreed, mostly. I think 2017 wcf would have been a hell of a series and we were robbed of that.