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Kblaze8855
04-03-2020, 05:29 PM
No Bosh, Webber, or Marion.

I’m sure the first two are a matter of time. I’m not sure they were even finalists this year though.

FireDavidKahn
04-03-2020, 07:25 PM
All no brainers.

Real Men Wear Green
04-03-2020, 07:40 PM
All no brainers.
If your HoF standard is high you might exclude Marion.

FireDavidKahn
04-03-2020, 07:42 PM
If your HoF standard is high you might exclude Marion.

I meant Kobe, Duncan and KG.

I don't think Marion is HOF worthy.

tpols
04-03-2020, 07:48 PM
Where's Dirk?

Whoah10115
04-03-2020, 07:50 PM
Webber will get in, but pretty amazed he isn't already. The two guys he competed with most go in 1st ballot and he doesn't..again.

Bosh already eligible? Wow. He isn't one tho. Would take Marion over him.

red1
04-03-2020, 08:01 PM
Kobe, Duncan, and KG make the hall of fame

top 8, top 8, top 15-20.



GOATs. easy first ballot. webber bosh and marion will all eventually get in too.

Real Men Wear Green
04-03-2020, 08:53 PM
Where's Dirk?

He only retired last year.

Real Men Wear Green
04-03-2020, 08:59 PM
Webber will get in, but pretty amazed he isn't already. The two guys he competed with most go in 1st ballot and he doesn't..again.

Bosh already eligible? Wow. He isn't one tho. Would take Marion over him.

It isn't an entirely fair way to look at things but his time in Miami made Bosh more famous and it is the Hall of "Fame." Also you could base a better offense on Bosh as a franchise player. Marion would do more things for you and Bosh wasn't elite but if not for the blood clots cutting it short his career would have been inarguably superior.

bizil
04-03-2020, 09:17 PM
C Webb is becoming one of the biggest injustices EVER when it comes to the HOF! He should have been in years ago. At his best, he was a top 3 caliber PF in the world. In the the top 10 players on the planet level type of shit. And he balled out in the Golden Era of PF's! It's very rare u see ANY POSITION in NBA history that was a loaded as the 4 spot at that time. This era of PG's, that 2000s era SG's, and 80's SF's come to mind.

Before him, we didn't see guys 6'10 and 250 pounds with his blend of scoring skillset, power, passing, handles, and athletic ability. Derrick Coleman sort of was a start of that. But Webb's passing ability and open court prowess was even a step up from DC. If u redefined your position, that should ADD even more layers to an HOF spot. Just saying Webb was a pure PF doing that shit! And from there, he was the best college player in the country at Michigan on the iconic Fab Five.

Travesty he isn't in. And another reason why the NBA needs their won HOF. Webb IN MY OPINION was 1st ballot caliber when u look at his NBA and college career COMBINED! Even even though he was past his prime at a relatively young age due to injury, he was still GREAT for 7-8 seasons in the league. And BASICALLY All Star caliber as soon as he stepped foot in the league!! Even Philly Webb at 32 years old was All Star caliber. He had 20PPG and 10 RPG that year past his prime!

Horatio33
04-04-2020, 04:38 AM
C Webb is becoming one of the biggest injustices EVER when it comes to the HOF! He should have been in years ago. At his best, he was a top 3 caliber PF in the world. In the the top 10 players on the planet level type of shit. And he balled out in the Golden Era of PF's! It's very rare u see ANY POSITION in NBA history that was a loaded as the 4 spot at that time. This era of PG's, that 2000s era SG's, and 80's SF's come to mind.

Before him, we didn't see guys 6'10 and 250 pounds with his blend of scoring skillset, power, passing, handles, and athletic ability. Derrick Coleman sort of was a start of that. But Webb's passing ability and open court prowess was even a step up from DC. If u redefined your position, that should ADD even more layers to an HOF spot. Just saying Webb was a pure PF doing that shit! And from there, he was the best college player in the country at Michigan on the iconic Fab Five.

Travesty he isn't in. And another reason why the NBA needs their won HOF. Webb IN MY OPINION was 1st ballot caliber when u look at his NBA and college career COMBINED! Even even though he was past his prime at a relatively young age due to injury, he was still GREAT for 7-8 seasons in the league. And BASICALLY All Star caliber as soon as he stepped foot in the league!! Even Philly Webb at 32 years old was All Star caliber. He had 20PPG and 10 RPG that year past his prime!

Webber wasn't all star caliber in Philly. He only got those numbers because someone else had to score.

I don't think Webber is a HOFer. He had a great college career but that is tainted by the Ed Martin scandal and in the NBA I don't think he was successful enough.

Smoke117
04-04-2020, 04:57 AM
C Webb is becoming one of the biggest injustices EVER when it comes to the HOF! He should have been in years ago. At his best, he was a top 3 caliber PF in the world. In the the top 10 players on the planet level type of shit. And he balled out in the Golden Era of PF's! It's very rare u see ANY POSITION in NBA history that was a loaded as the 4 spot at that time. This era of PG's, that 2000s era SG's, and 80's SF's come to mind.

Before him, we didn't see guys 6'10 and 250 pounds with his blend of scoring skillset, power, passing, handles, and athletic ability. Derrick Coleman sort of was a start of that. But Webb's passing ability and open court prowess was even a step up from DC. If u redefined your position, that should ADD even more layers to an HOF spot. Just saying Webb was a pure PF doing that shit! And from there, he was the best college player in the country at Michigan on the iconic Fab Five.

Travesty he isn't in. And another reason why the NBA needs their won HOF. Webb IN MY OPINION was 1st ballot caliber when u look at his NBA and college career COMBINED! Even even though he was past his prime at a relatively young age due to injury, he was still GREAT for 7-8 seasons in the league. And BASICALLY All Star caliber as soon as he stepped foot in the league!! Even Philly Webb at 32 years old was All Star caliber. He had 20PPG and 10 RPG that year past his prime!

lol get off his nuts. Chris Webber was incredibly overrated during his day. The guy chucked up a shit load of shots but his efficency was straight up garbage. When he averaged that career high 27ppg he was chucking up a 23.5 shots a game. That's atrocious efficiency. I will admit he was a very good all around player, a great passer, underrated defensive player, but he never should have ever been allowed to take as many shots as he was. He basically had no real moves in the post except an ugly little hook shot. Most of his scoring was off a streaky little jumper and inside passes at the rim. That he ever took 23.5 shots a game is laughable.

Real Men Wear Green
04-04-2020, 09:15 AM
Webber wasn't all star caliber in Philly. He only got those numbers because someone else had to score.

I don't think Webber is a HOFer. He had a great college career but that is tainted by the Ed Martin scandal and in the NBA I don't think he was successful enough.
To be fair: why should the college scandal be held against him? No amount of money accepted changes his impact and value as a player. Because they never won the championship I've always felt the Fab Five was overrated but that's still the most famous college team in modern history. Plus there are plenty of college players that took money and just weren't caught. The way retired NBA stars talk on ESPN makes it sound like everyone is taking.

Smoke117
04-04-2020, 10:09 AM
Webber will get in, but pretty amazed he isn't already. The two guys he competed with most go in 1st ballot and he doesn't..again.

Bosh already eligible? Wow. He isn't one tho. Would take Marion over him.

He isn’t close to any of the threes tier so why is them going first ballot and him not going in again noteworthy?

Whoah10115
04-04-2020, 05:46 PM
It isn't an entirely fair way to look at things but his time in Miami made Bosh more famous and it is the Hall of "Fame." Also you could base a better offense on Bosh as a franchise player. Marion would do more things for you and Bosh wasn't elite but if not for the blood clots cutting it short his career would have been inarguably superior.

Agree that will, at some point, be the case with Bosh. And definitely agree with the team being built around him. But I think if you build a team around him, you have a low ceiling. If he's your most featured guy and you play a style maybe similar to Detroit middle of last decade, or the general Nuggets teams (not as far as being fast-paced), then sure. Won't hold all of Toronto against him, but it's in those shortcomings where Marion as a second or third option starts to rise. Add his rebounding and obviously his defense, and I think he has a bigger impact on the game.


He isn’t close to any of the threes tier so why is them going first ballot and him not going in again noteworthy?

Because he retired long before, should already have been in, and it would have been cool to go in with them, so it's more noticeable that he isn't.

He jacked up too many shots, and there's some slight truth to what you say about his post game. He was well past his athletic prime, in what people consider his prime. But the Kings were the best offensive team in the league and they were built around him. One can shout out Peja, can acknowledge that Vlade was a great great passer himself, remember Williams and then Bibby, plus Christie and that bench. But they were built around Webber's all-around offensive game, and it wasn't a super high-paced league.

Axe
04-04-2020, 08:51 PM
Well-deserved, especially for kobe. 👏👏👏

Turbo Slayer
04-04-2020, 08:52 PM
:applause:

bizil
04-05-2020, 08:03 PM
Webber wasn't all star caliber in Philly. He only got those numbers because someone else had to score.

I don't think Webber is a HOFer. He had a great college career but that is tainted by the Ed Martin scandal and in the NBA I don't think he was successful enough.

Nah in general Webb was still an All Star caliber PF in Philly. What DO YOU MEAN he got those numbers because someone else had to score??? What was he supposed to do??? If he WASN'T capable of getting those numbers, he wouldn't have have gotten those numbers to begin with. He wasn't superstar level anymore in Philly. But he was still All Star caliber in general his first two years there.

And when u combined college AND NBA as a package, Webb deserves to be in the HOF! For example, how is Mitch Richmond in the HOF BUT NOT C Webb??? Explain that to me???

bizil
04-05-2020, 08:07 PM
lol get off his nuts. Chris Webber was incredibly overrated during his day. The guy chucked up a shit load of shots but his efficency was straight up garbage. When he averaged that career high 27ppg he was chucking up a 23.5 shots a game. That's atrocious efficiency. I will admit he was a very good all around player, a great passer, underrated defensive player, but he never should have ever been allowed to take as many shots as he was. He basically had no real moves in the post except an ugly little hook shot. Most of his scoring was off a streaky little jumper and inside passes at the rim. That he ever took 23.5 shots a game is laughable.


WTF are you talking about??? Webb shot 48% from the field FOR HIS CAREER!!!! That's a very good FG%!!! In his prime, he was shooting 48% to 54%!!! You're a clown go talk hoops at the lil kids table!!!!