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Long Duck Dong
04-05-2020, 02:31 PM
https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/jeanne-calment-smoking.jpg


She smoked(but not heavily)
*She stopped 5 years before her death but she smoked for literally over a 100 years.
She drank every day and never stopped until her death
She ate lots of red meat
She ate around 2lbs of chocolate a week. 6 years before her death, and too old to argue with people anymore, her healthcare providers finally put a damper on her sweet tooth
She loved olive oil, so much so that not only did she douse it on her food, she literally lathered her body with it after showering
She NEVER ate breakfast but of course drank 2 cups of coffee in the morning

She was only 4'6. Not sure if that had anything to do with it

https://allthatsinteresting.com/jeanne-calment

*article says she stopped one year before her death but that's not true. By all accounts she stopped 5 years prior

Phong
04-05-2020, 03:40 PM
Jeanne Calment was quite famous in France. Not only for her longevity but because she sold her house in a viager transaction and outlived the buyer; meaning she got to keep her house and received monthly payments until the buyer died.

Rolando
04-05-2020, 03:49 PM
Yep. Olive oil. Chocolate. Good steak. Throw in lots of red wine. Enjoy the ocassional cigarette.....And don't ever, ever have breakfast. Espcially if you are over 40. Just hold on until lunch. It is one of the best things you can do for your body.

ArbitraryWater
04-05-2020, 04:05 PM
a good test for all idiots who will excuse/defend that lifestyle cause of this instance

John Connor
04-05-2020, 04:49 PM
Red wine, dark chocolate and time restricted eating? If doctors say no to these things it's because they aren't paying attention.

Article also says she regularly exercised.

Long Duck Dong
04-05-2020, 05:06 PM
Article also says she regularly exercised.

I meant to put that in the OP but forgot. She was exercising and active even well in to her advanced years.

Kungfro
04-05-2020, 06:14 PM
Some people just win the DNA lottery, with 8 billion people you're gonna have some outliers.

RRR3
04-05-2020, 06:17 PM
Some people just win the DNA lottery, with 8 billion people you're gonna have some outliers.
Nah bro, clearly the secret is smoking cigarettes






/s (I shouldn't need this but this is ISH)

Long Duck Dong
04-05-2020, 06:31 PM
Some people just win the DNA lottery, with 8 billion people you're gonna have some outliers.

Here's the thing. In addition to winning the genetic lottery, you'd figure that the person who lived the longest in recorded history, figure of I'm guessing around 30-40 billion people during this time, would also do just about EVERYTHING right in their environment. To me that's just weird that it was she that lived the longest.

But maybe it has something to do with size. Most of the oldest living humans on Earth live in Japan. Japanese people tend to be very small despite no problem with malnutrition or access to lots of food in their nation. And almost all are women. Can't remember if it's only 3 men among the top 20 oldest living human beings, or top 100. I'd be very interested in the size of the oldest people on Earth.

DoctorP
04-05-2020, 06:50 PM
the healthiest vegan vegetarian nutrition-obessed health-nuts get murdered every day.

doesnt mean anything about longevity.

Vino24
04-05-2020, 07:09 PM
1875-1997. Imagine the changes in that time

tpols
04-05-2020, 07:11 PM
there's nothing wrong with red meat if its good red meat. compare a steak to a slim jim or a mcchicken... quantity also matters, shes so small probably didnt eat a lot. olive oil is great for you and wine / coffee can be too. cigs wont kill you if you only have a a couple a day, its people doing a pack or half a pack a day that get jammed up in middle age.

most of our disease today is from extreme over consumption.

Long Duck Dong
04-05-2020, 07:16 PM
most of our disease today is from extreme over consumption.

Pretty sure 2lbs of chocolate a week for an 88lb human being is extreme over consumption. Or no?

tpols
04-05-2020, 07:31 PM
Pretty sure 2lbs of chocolate a week for an 88lb human being is extreme over consumption. Or no?

was it dark chocolate? (very good for your heart) did she eat any other snacks? ... people here will eat chocolate, and then a mountain of chips, cheetos, ice cream, fast foods and more. that might of been her only snack. her food was also probably much more natural than the shit put out the past couple decades in america. Europe to this day has far better quality control on their food.

Draz
04-07-2020, 03:28 PM
What is oxygen takes 70-100 years to kill us?

Manny98
04-07-2020, 03:41 PM
Doctors were lying to us all along

They tell you to eat 3 meals a day but that's the worst thing you could do to your body as you're not giving your body a chance to heal and property digest your food

NBAGOAT
04-07-2020, 09:45 PM
you ever take a statistics course man. One instance doesnt mean shit and even if there's a dataset that shows a trend, doesnt meant there's a direct link.

Stephonit
04-08-2020, 12:14 AM
Cocoa is very healthy and nutritious. You actually might have to be careful about eating too much because you might ingest too much copper and iron.

Listen to doctors' dietary advice over the years and an objective assessment would be they are full of ****.

Nanners
04-08-2020, 06:37 AM
Doctors were lying to us all along

They tell you to eat 3 meals a day but that's the worst thing you could do to your body as you're not giving your body a chance to heal and property digest your food

I used 18th century leech therapy to cure my syphilis, and 19th century electroshock therapy to cure my mental retardation...no doubt history will prove that the doctors of today are just as knowledgeable as those of the past.

John Connor
04-08-2020, 10:24 AM
I used 18th century leech therapy to cure my syphilis, and 19th century electroshock therapy to cure my mental retardation...no doubt history will prove that the doctors of today are just as knowledgeable as those of the past.

Even as we marvel at our own magnificence and think we've got it just about all figured out, this is so true. All you need to do is go talk to a general practitioner a couple of times and watch as they absolutely guess as to what's wrong with you in any given instance.

It's actually breathtaking how little we truly know about nutrition and overall well being. I think there are multiple factors at play here. Lobbyists and big food spreading misinformation is one thing. Another is the fact that I'm pretty sure human beings do not all respond to all of the same things the same way. In other words, genetics play a large role. And even crazier, you can have the exact same birth parents and be born a year later and you can wind up with noticeably different physical characteristics... as well as mental ones. Though environment can have a strong impact on both... which naturally varies even from child to child.

It is my hope, that in an... optimistic world view of how reality will play out, that artificial intelligence will exponentially hasten our understanding of such things and arrive to a spot in which people can get personalized treatments, diagnoses, and overall life strategies based on the cards they were dealt... with the hope that they are able to achieve optimized health and happiness.

Norcaliblunt
04-08-2020, 10:32 AM
If the red meat she ate was raw she would have lived to be 150.

FKAri
04-08-2020, 11:28 AM
no doubt history will prove that the doctors of today are just as knowledgeable as those of the past.
History hasn't shown that to be true of the past so why would it for today? Our knowledge of human biology continues to improve but we still barely know anything about it.

John Connor
04-08-2020, 12:23 PM
History hasn't shown that to be true of the past so why would it for today? Our knowledge of human biology continues to improve but we still barely know anything about it.

What? You're agreeing with him. He's saying that doctors don't know much.

Long Duck Dong
04-08-2020, 01:40 PM
you ever take a statistics course man. One instance doesnt mean shit and even if there's a dataset that shows a trend, doesnt meant there's a direct link.

You'd still think out of 10s of billions of people throughout recorded history, that the oldest person that ever lived would have a combo of near perfect genetics, near perfect luck and near perfect environment and diet. Instead this lady who basically did a lot of what doctors tell us not to do manages to not only outlive those people with fantastic genetics, who lived in a perfect environment and ate a near perfect diet but outlived the next oldest person by over freakin 3 years. It's amazing to me.

JohnnySic
04-08-2020, 08:31 PM
What idiot doctors still say those things? What is this, 1985? None of those habits are bad. You can even get away with smoking as long as you dont abuse it (a handful of cigs a day, not 1-2 packs).

That said, I dont get the skip breakfast thing. A hearty breakfast is one of life's pleasures.

John Connor
04-08-2020, 10:06 PM
What idiot doctors still say those things? What is this, 1985? None of those habits are bad. You can even get away with smoking as long as you dont abuse it (a handful of cigs a day, not 1-2 packs).

That said, I dont get the skip breakfast thing. A hearty breakfast is one of life's pleasures.

I'm not an authority on this sort of thing but... intermittent fasting/time restricted eating gives your body time to recover. It also probably has something to do with whatever state your body is in come breakfast time... I kinda doubt waking up and immediately(within an hour or two of consciousness) starting to eat is a good thing for you.

Jasper
04-09-2020, 03:04 PM
my step father lived to be 91 (woke up had a pipe in his mouth until he went to bed... it's all in the genes)

Draz
04-09-2020, 03:49 PM
It's definitely all genetics. Make the best out of your life now.

John Connor
04-09-2020, 03:53 PM
It's definitely NOT all genetics. Jasper... Draz... stop being clowns and stop spreading misinformation. Nobody listen to these two, please.

Yes, genetics can help you circumvent statistical averages, but there hasn't been anyone ever that has lived to 100 eating exclusively burgers, fries, cokes for literally every meal while not exercising.

It has been proven that exercise lowers your chances of diabetes, multiple cancers, multiple heart diseases... etc. And that's just exercise. That's without even getting into what people actually put inside their stomachs.

If you pay attention at all you can look at regional diets and see the differences in illness trends. Look at the diets.

My personal theory is that blood flow and your circulatory system play an understated role in longevity. I don't think it's a coincidence that this lady is the oldest ever and that she was short, exercised, drank wine and ate chocolate. But that's just my theory. It's definitely not a proven fact.

Celtics 1825
04-10-2020, 04:26 AM
Genetics are crazy man