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STATUTORY
04-09-2020, 05:38 PM
that aspect of his career will never be replicated again by another player imo

Docs Orders
04-09-2020, 05:47 PM
Stockton and Malone prevented themselves from winning a chip :oldlol:


16 playoff exits to non Bulls teams


Playoff Blunders

1986 - choked 1st rnd vs Mavs
1987 - choked 1st rnd vs Warriors (as favorites)
1988 - choked semi's vs Lakers (5 seed)
1989 - choked 1st rnd vs Warriors (as favorites)
1990 - choked 1st rnd vs Suns (as favorites)
1991 - choked semi's vs Trailblazers (5 seed)
1992 - choked WCF vs Trailblazers
1993 - choked 1st rnd vs Sonics
1994 - choked WCF vs Rockets
1995 - choked 1st rnd vs Rockets (as favorites)
1996 - choked WCF vs Sonics
1997 - choked Finals vs Bulls
1998 - choked Finals vs Bulls
1999 - choked semi's vs Blazers
2000 - choked semi's vs Blazers (as favorites)
2001 - choked 1st rnd vs Mavs (as favorites)
2002 - choked 1st rnd vs Kings
2003 - choked 1st rnd vs Kings (5 seed)



18 Playoffs together

9 First round exits

4 Semi Conf exits

3 Conf final exits

2 Finals exits



The Original Trash Bros :applause:

LAmbruh
04-09-2020, 05:56 PM
Stockton and Malone prevented themselves from winning a chip :oldlol:


16 playoff exits to non Bulls teams


Playoff Blunders

1986 - choked 1st rnd vs Mavs
1987 - choked 1st rnd vs Warriors (as favorites)
1988 - choked semi's vs Lakers (5 seed)
1989 - choked 1st rnd vs Warriors (as favorites)
1990 - choked 1st rnd vs Suns (as favorites)
1991 - choked semi's vs Trailblazers (5 seed)
1992 - choked WCF vs Trailblazers
1993 - choked 1st rnd vs Sonics
1994 - choked WCF vs Rockets
1995 - choked 1st rnd vs Rockets (as favorites)
1996 - choked WCF vs Sonics
1997 - choked Finals vs Bulls
1998 - choked Finals vs Bulls
1999 - choked semi's vs Blazers
2000 - choked semi's vs Blazers (as favorites)
2001 - choked 1st rnd vs Mavs (as favorites)
2002 - choked 1st rnd vs Kings
2003 - choked 1st rnd vs Kings (5 seed)



18 Playoffs together

9 First round exits

4 Semi Conf exits

3 Conf final exits

2 Finals exits



The Original Trash Bros :applause:

even Kyle Lowry has a chip


while Mailman and little Johnny as favorites were getting shitted on by Pippen's Blazers :oldlol:

Vino24
04-09-2020, 06:00 PM
Stockton and Malone prevented themselves from winning a chip :oldlol:


16 playoff exits to non Bulls teams


Playoff Blunders

1986 - choked 1st rnd vs Mavs
1987 - choked 1st rnd vs Warriors (as favorites)
1988 - choked semi's vs Lakers (5 seed)
1989 - choked 1st rnd vs Warriors (as favorites)
1990 - choked 1st rnd vs Suns (as favorites)
1991 - choked semi's vs Trailblazers (5 seed)
1992 - choked WCF vs Trailblazers
1993 - choked 1st rnd vs Sonics
1994 - choked WCF vs Rockets
1995 - choked 1st rnd vs Rockets (as favorites)
1996 - choked WCF vs Sonics
1997 - choked Finals vs Bulls
1998 - choked Finals vs Bulls
1999 - choked semi's vs Blazers
2000 - choked semi's vs Blazers (as favorites)
2001 - choked 1st rnd vs Mavs (as favorites)
2002 - choked 1st rnd vs Kings
2003 - choked 1st rnd vs Kings (5 seed)



18 Playoffs together

9 First round exits

4 Semi Conf exits

3 Conf final exits

2 Finals exits



The Original Trash Bros :applause:

Brutal. Turns out MJ’s comp just wasn’t good

Elosha
04-09-2020, 06:01 PM
Well we know LeBron has also stopped lots of Hall of Famers from getting championships like Dirk, Curry, Leonard, Durant, Klay, right? Or did I get something wrong here. :facepalm

Axe
04-10-2020, 03:37 AM
Well we know LeBron has also stopped lots of Hall of Famers from getting championships like Dirk, Curry, Leonard, Durant, Klay, right? Or did I get something wrong here. :facepalm
Lebron giving them at least one ring actually makes him more goat than mj ever was. Mj's selfishness when it came to finals is a big reason why there are those who berate him a lot.

86Celtics
04-10-2020, 04:16 AM
Stockton and Malone prevented themselves from winning a chip :oldlol:


16 playoff exits to non Bulls teams


Playoff Blunders

1986 - choked 1st rnd vs Mavs
1987 - choked 1st rnd vs Warriors (as favorites)
1988 - choked semi's vs Lakers (5 seed)
1989 - choked 1st rnd vs Warriors (as favorites)
1990 - choked 1st rnd vs Suns (as favorites)
1991 - choked semi's vs Trailblazers (5 seed)
1992 - choked WCF vs Trailblazers
1993 - choked 1st rnd vs Sonics
1994 - choked WCF vs Rockets
1995 - choked 1st rnd vs Rockets (as favorites)
1996 - choked WCF vs Sonics
1997 - choked Finals vs Bulls
1998 - choked Finals vs Bulls
1999 - choked semi's vs Blazers
2000 - choked semi's vs Blazers (as favorites)
2001 - choked 1st rnd vs Mavs (as favorites)
2002 - choked 1st rnd vs Kings
2003 - choked 1st rnd vs Kings (5 seed)



18 Playoffs together

9 First round exits

4 Semi Conf exits

3 Conf final exits

2 Finals exits



The Original Trash Bros :applause:

Stockton and Malone labelled as trash by a pathetic moron who trolls 24/7. Some people shouldn't be allowed online.

jstern
04-10-2020, 04:44 AM
Stockton and Malone prevented themselves from winning a chip :oldlol:


16 playoff exits to non Bulls teams


Playoff Blunders

1986 - choked 1st rnd vs Mavs
1987 - choked 1st rnd vs Warriors (as favorites)
1988 - choked semi's vs Lakers (5 seed)
1989 - choked 1st rnd vs Warriors (as favorites)
1990 - choked 1st rnd vs Suns (as favorites)
1991 - choked semi's vs Trailblazers (5 seed)
1992 - choked WCF vs Trailblazers
1993 - choked 1st rnd vs Sonics
1994 - choked WCF vs Rockets
1995 - choked 1st rnd vs Rockets (as favorites)
1996 - choked WCF vs Sonics
1997 - choked Finals vs Bulls
1998 - choked Finals vs Bulls
1999 - choked semi's vs Blazers
2000 - choked semi's vs Blazers (as favorites)
2001 - choked 1st rnd vs Mavs (as favorites)
2002 - choked 1st rnd vs Kings
2003 - choked 1st rnd vs Kings (5 seed)



18 Playoffs together

9 First round exits

4 Semi Conf exits

3 Conf final exits

2 Finals exits



The Original Trash Bros :applause:

Notice the teams that they lost to. Lost to the NBA champions 5 of those years, the Western Conference Champions at least 2 of those years from what I could tell..

Stanley Kobrick
04-10-2020, 05:41 AM
Stockton and Malone prevented themselves from winning a chip :oldlol:


16 playoff exits to non Bulls teams


Playoff Blunders

1986 - choked 1st rnd vs Mavs
1987 - choked 1st rnd vs Warriors (as favorites)
1988 - choked semi's vs Lakers (5 seed)
1989 - choked 1st rnd vs Warriors (as favorites)
1990 - choked 1st rnd vs Suns (as favorites)
1991 - choked semi's vs Trailblazers (5 seed)
1992 - choked WCF vs Trailblazers
1993 - choked 1st rnd vs Sonics
1994 - choked WCF vs Rockets
1995 - choked 1st rnd vs Rockets (as favorites)
1996 - choked WCF vs Sonics
1997 - choked Finals vs Bulls
1998 - choked Finals vs Bulls
1999 - choked semi's vs Blazers
2000 - choked semi's vs Blazers (as favorites)
2001 - choked 1st rnd vs Mavs (as favorites)
2002 - choked 1st rnd vs Kings
2003 - choked 1st rnd vs Kings (5 seed)



18 Playoffs together

9 First round exits

4 Semi Conf exits

3 Conf final exits

2 Finals exits



The Original Trash Bros :applause:

at a quick glance it seems that 11 out of those 18 losses they fell to non Finals or conference champions either. i'm not 100% though, very fascinating none the less

warriorfan
04-10-2020, 06:48 AM
Lebron giving them at least one ring actually makes him more goat than mj ever was. Mj's selfishness when it came to finals is a big reason why there are those who berate him a lot.

That’s why I’m a big LBJ fan. Very unselfish, very giving. I mean the man lets his teammates f.uck his mom. If that’s not being a good teammate I don’t know what is.

Axe
04-10-2020, 07:24 AM
That’s why I’m a big LBJ fan. Very unselfish, very giving. I mean the man lets his teammates f.uck his mom. If that’s not being a good teammate I don’t know what is.
🤣🤣🤣

STATUTORY
04-10-2020, 09:28 AM
That’s why I’m a big LBJ fan. Very unselfish, very giving. I mean the man lets his teammates f.uck his mom. If that’s not being a good teammate I don’t know what is.

holy shit :roll:

brownmamba00
04-10-2020, 09:37 AM
That’s why I’m a big LBJ fan. Very unselfish, very giving. I mean the man lets his teammates f.uck his mom. If that’s not being a good teammate I don’t know what is.

:lol

red1
04-10-2020, 10:12 AM
94 bulls won 55 games without mj playing a single game. absolutely stacked team:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1994.html


led by scottie pippen.

Vino24
04-10-2020, 10:16 AM
94 bulls won 55 games without mj playing a single game. absolutely stacked team:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1994.html


led by scottie pippen.

3ball thoughts?

red1
04-10-2020, 10:19 AM
That’s why I’m a big LBJ fan. Very unselfish, very giving. I mean the man lets his teammates f.uck his mom. If that’s not being a good teammate I don’t know what is.

delonte is a very sad case. he lives under a bridge now FYI.


cant bite the hand that feeds you. lebron carried him to 66 wins and gave him the best years of his career.

red1
04-10-2020, 10:24 AM
not only did jordan's team win 55 games without him (aka absolutely stacked team)


...he also never beat a 70-win team.


instead he beat the jazz. and sonics. and the lakers when they were at their absolute weakest in 91.

Elosha
04-10-2020, 04:34 PM
not only did jordan's team win 55 games without him (aka absolutely stacked team)


...he also never beat a 70-win team.


instead he beat the jazz. and sonics. and the lakers when they were at their absolute weakest in 91.

That point's not helping you. Jordan didn't need to beat a 70 win team, he was the driving championship force ON a 72 win team, and a 69 win team and a 67 win team. Better winning percentage than LeBron has ever had. Geez, even with LeBron's dream team of himself, Wade, and Bosh, he got spanked in 2011 and 2013 and needed a miracle from Ray Allen in 2013 to squeak by.

FireDavidKahn
04-10-2020, 05:15 PM
Stockong and Malone were notorious chokers. Each round they got progressively worse.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVRUwqnXkAE_EzE?format=jpg&name=900x900

Axe
04-11-2020, 08:57 AM
That point's not helping you. Jordan didn't need to beat a 70 win team, he was the driving championship force ON a 72 win team, and a 69 win team and a 67 win team. Better winning percentage than LeBron has ever had. Geez, even with LeBron's dream team of himself, Wade, and Bosh, he got spanked in 2011 and 2013 and needed a miracle from Ray Allen in 2013 to squeak by.
True.

Stanley Kobrick
04-11-2020, 09:03 AM
Stockong and Malone were notorious chokers. Each round they got progressively worse.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVRUwqnXkAE_EzE?format=jpg&name=900x900
very interesting

Axe
04-11-2020, 09:05 AM
Stockong and Malone were notorious chokers. Each round they got progressively worse.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVRUwqnXkAE_EzE?format=jpg&name=900x900
Jerry sloan choked from coaching the duo.

And1AllDay
04-11-2020, 06:20 PM
not only did jordan's team win 55 games without him (aka absolutely stacked team)


...he also never beat a 70-win team.


instead he beat the jazz. and sonics. and the lakers when they were at their absolute weakest in 91.

crazy

mike the fraud

Whoah10115
04-12-2020, 02:52 PM
That’s why I’m a big LBJ fan. Very unselfish, very giving. I mean the man lets his teammates f.uck his mom. If that’s not being a good teammate I don’t know what is.

Some may think I only block LeBron stans.

Not true. You suck. ✌🏼

Cyrus334
04-12-2020, 06:10 PM
not only did jordan's team win 55 games without him (aka absolutely stacked team)


...he also never beat a 70-win team.


instead he beat the jazz. and sonics. and the lakers when they were at their absolute weakest in 91.

How was Jordan supposed to beat a team that he was on lol? Can't believe people actually try to use that against him. And yeah he never beat a 70 win team, he also never lost to a team he was supposed to beat unlike a certain hairline missing self proclaimed "King" who lost three straight years as a heavy favorite.

red1
04-12-2020, 06:41 PM
How was Jordan supposed to beat a team that he was on lol? Can't believe people actually try to use that against him. And yeah he never beat a 70 win team, he also never lost to a team he was supposed to beat unlike a certain hairline missing self proclaimed "King" who lost three straight years as a heavy favorite.

oh shit so you're saying his team was stacked?

Cyrus334
04-12-2020, 06:44 PM
oh shit so you're saying his team was stacked?
Well yeah, who denies that?

red1
04-12-2020, 08:00 PM
Well we know LeBron has also stopped lots of Hall of Famers from getting championships like Dirk, Curry, Leonard, Durant, Klay, right? Or did I get something wrong here. :facepalm

he's beat every single one of these guys except dirk :roll:


and not to troll dirk or his stans but bron has 3x the finals MVPs and 4x the MVPs - that's a good comeback for choking one series :roll:

Cyrus334
04-12-2020, 08:38 PM
he's beat every single one of these guys except dirk :roll:


and not to troll dirk or his stans but bron has 3x the finals MVPs and 4x the MVPs - that's a good comeback for choking one series :roll:

Yeah and those guys beat him too, handily in fact. Duncan, Curry, KD, and Klay have beaten Lebron more times than Lebron has beaten them in the Finals.

Though to be fair, Curry, KD, and Klay had to team up to do that.

Axe
04-12-2020, 08:40 PM
Yeah and those guys beat him too, handily in fact. Duncan, Curry, KD, and Klay have beaten Lebron more times than Lebron has beaten them in the Finals.

Though to be fair, Curry, KD, and Klay had to team up to do that.
Because lebron is not a selfish player, unlike mj. Just so you know, true goats are selfless. 😂

red1
04-12-2020, 08:42 PM
Yeah and those guys beat him too, handily in fact. Duncan, Curry, KD, and Klay have beaten Lebron more times than Lebron has beaten them in the Finals.

Though to be fair, Curry, KD, and Klay had to team up to do that.
yup.


its incredible he still has 3 finals MVPs, tied for 2nd most of all-time. :eek:

FireDavidKahn
04-12-2020, 08:56 PM
LeBron James has more Finals appearances then 25 franchises.

FKAri
04-13-2020, 12:42 PM
ATGs? More like guys picked last at the Y.

3ball
04-13-2020, 12:47 PM
ATGs? More like guys picked last at the Y.
Who did Lebron stop from winning?

DeRozan?

lol

Hey Yo
04-13-2020, 01:10 PM
Imagine saying it was a miracle that Ray Allen made a corner 3.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

3ball
04-13-2020, 01:14 PM
Imagine saying it was a miracle that Ray Allen made a corner 3.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
The entire sequence was a miracle

Lebron getting a shot like that to give him 2nd life is a miracle

What a lucky fool... And he's a low character guy for turning his luckboxing into a campaign for goat - his playoff resume (losing, stacking deck in weak conference, needing an equal-scoring teammate/closer) is the opposite of a goat resume

FromDowntown
04-13-2020, 08:06 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/MKD4mtb1/Lplploiu6up9nb44h.jpg

Axe
04-13-2020, 08:10 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/MKD4mtb1/Lplploiu6up9nb44h.jpg
Seriously, how many times more do you have to spam this in several threads?

FromDowntown
04-13-2020, 08:14 PM
Seriously, how many times more do you have to spam this in several threads?

This was my 1st time thanks you cop

Axe
04-13-2020, 08:17 PM
This was my 1st time thanks you cop
Hoax

LAmbruh
04-13-2020, 08:17 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/MKD4mtb1/Lplploiu6up9nb44h.jpg

:oldlol:

FireDavidKahn
04-13-2020, 09:01 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/MKD4mtb1/Lplploiu6up9nb44h.jpg

:roll::roll: