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Vino24
04-14-2020, 08:29 PM
Just as covid19 is ramping up? https://i.ibb.co/Z18h3mb/5-FC9-EF65-99-D1-4-E95-B024-D65-BCFAAF0-B0.jpg (https://ibb.co/Z18h3mb)

LAmbruh
04-14-2020, 08:30 PM
nationwide quarantine lockdown contains the spread to minimum

Vino24
04-14-2020, 08:31 PM
nationwide quarantine lockdown contains the spread to minimum

So people just stop dying?

Hawker
04-14-2020, 08:31 PM
10 times deadlier than the flu bro


:lol

LAmbruh
04-14-2020, 08:32 PM
So people just stop dying?

less spread = less infected = less dying


yes that's how it works

Vino24
04-14-2020, 08:35 PM
less spread = less infected = less dying


yes that's how it works
So people stop dying from everything else as a result?

~primetime~
04-14-2020, 08:40 PM
All "accidents" are down big...auto, drowning, etc

crime rates are down big...no one is out getting murdered

I just read an article yesterday about how heart attacks are down 40%....doctors have several different theories as to why, one of which is that being at home is stress free

it's weird, but yes basically everyone is dying less from everything else

Real Men Wear Green
04-14-2020, 08:42 PM
If people stay inside they don't interact and thus don't kill each other. No fights, no car wrecks no industrial accidents etc. And now you know.

Vino24
04-14-2020, 08:48 PM
If people stay inside they don't interact and thus don't kill each other. No fights, no car wrecks no industrial accidents etc. And now you know.
1-4 deaths is heart disease. 647k a year die from it alone in the U.S. by comparison dying from the things you mentioned is actually quite rare by comparison

DoctorP
04-14-2020, 08:50 PM
magic.

~primetime~
04-14-2020, 08:51 PM
1-4 deaths is heart disease. 647k a year die from it alone in the U.S. by comparison dying from the things you mentioned is actually quite rare by comparison

Heart attacks are down 40%

Real Men Wear Green
04-14-2020, 08:51 PM
1-4 deaths is heart disease. 647k a year die from it alone in the U.S. by comparison dying from the things you mentioned is actually quite rare by comparison

I did not list every single way people die from human interaction. Nor am I going to. There are a lot.

~primetime~
04-14-2020, 08:53 PM
there is another theory that because of covid everyone is scared to go to the ER room...thus there are tons of dead bodies sitting in apartments and homes that no one has found yet.

Patrick Chewing
04-14-2020, 09:04 PM
there is another theory that because of covid everyone is scared to go to the ER room...thus there are tons of dead bodies sitting in apartments and homes that no one has found yet.


I've been calling grandma back in Miami for the past couple of days and no answer.....hmm.

warriorfan
04-14-2020, 09:27 PM
there is another theory that because of covid everyone is scared to go to the ER room...thus there are tons of dead bodies sitting in apartments and homes that no one has found yet.

lmao. Piles of bodies barricaded in their homes. That’s pretty absurd dude.

~primetime~
04-14-2020, 09:39 PM
lmao. Piles of bodies barricaded in their homes. That’s pretty absurd dude.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-heart-attacks-hospitals-20200409-2affaikcxzaovotw4pmthifui4-story.html

That's where I read the theory

Stephonit
04-14-2020, 09:46 PM
lmao. Piles of bodies barricaded in their homes. That’s pretty absurd dude.

What's absurd about it? Morbid and grotesque maybe, but not absurd.

warriorfan
04-14-2020, 10:00 PM
What's absurd about it? Morbid and grotesque maybe, but not absurd.

It’s just silly. There’s no way that is occurring often enough that it would effect the numbers.

Axe
04-14-2020, 11:02 PM
F.

coin24
04-15-2020, 08:15 AM
10 times deadlier than the flu bro


:lol

:cheers:

MaxFly
04-15-2020, 10:55 PM
Heart attacks are down 40%

People are home, relaxed, hardly exerting, and certainly not overexerting themselves. It makes perfect sense that heart attacks are down.

Long Duck Dong
04-15-2020, 11:32 PM
I'm calling bullshit on this.
Between 4/4-4/11 12,108 people died of COVID-19. On 4/4 8469 people had died in the US of COVID-19, by 4/11 20577 people had died. So basically almost everyone who died in the US during that week died of COVID-19.

Nah.

https://i0.wp.com/tvone.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/giphy-90.gif

Patrick Chewing
04-15-2020, 11:49 PM
I'm calling bullshit on this.
Between 4/4-4/11 12,108 people died of COVID-19. On 4/4 8469 people had died in the US of COVID-19, by 4/11 20577 people had died. So basically almost everyone who died in the US during that week died of COVID-19.

Nah.

https://i0.wp.com/tvone.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/giphy-90.gif


None of the numbers make sense. Right here in NY they are faking the numbers. It's like Big Bird DeBlasio and Cuomo are behind the scenes in collusion to make every death a Covid-19 death.


"Hey, what about this guy? He was shot and killed."

"Covid death"

"But what about the hole in his head?"

"Obvious Covid mutation. Scary stuff."

BarberSchool
04-16-2020, 12:23 AM
None of the numbers make sense. Right here in NY they are faking the numbers. It's like Big Bird DeBlasio and Cuomo are behind the scenes in collusion to make every death a Covid-19 death.


"Hey, what about this guy? He was shot and killed."

"Covid death"

"But what about the hole in his head?"

"Obvious Covid mutation. Scary stuff."In certain states, some are artificially inflating death totals to include a wide range of deaths from people who NEVER TESTED POSITIVE as cover-19 deaths. It's not a theory either, many physicians in many states (mostly with democrat governors sadly) have held interviews saying they're ashamed of the push to rule uncertain deaths with no known cause, as covid-19 deaths. Federal Depts actually issued changes to death toll guidelines on 3/3/20 and 3/14/20, to allow deaths to be attributed to COVID-19 where here was NO POSITIVE TEST.

It's almost certainly for one of two reasons or both, in those states:

1. Political advantage during election year (make administration look bad by inflating death toll)

2. Scare uncompliant demographics within public to finally stay home (NYC, Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, Philly and New Orleans all had major problems in certain zip codes with people not social distancing, being outside all day with no reason, etc)

bigkingsfan
04-16-2020, 12:26 AM
I'm calling bullshit on this.
Between 4/4-4/11 12,108 people died of COVID-19. On 4/4 8469 people had died in the US of COVID-19, by 4/11 20577 people had died. So basically almost everyone who died in the US during that week died of COVID-19.

Nah.


There's a disclaimer on the site.

Note: Provisional death counts are based on death certificate data received and coded by the National Center for Health Statistics as of April 15, 2020. Death counts are delayed and may differ from other published sources (see Technical Notes). Counts will be updated periodically.


In certain states, some are artificially inflating death totals to include a wide range of deaths from people who NEVER TESTED POSITIVE as cover-19 deaths.
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-deaths-confirmed-probable-daily-04142020.pdf

3778/11,962 probable cases

Average NYC deaths pre-corona is 145 per day. In that period it would be 4,930.
Deaths not known to be confirmed or probable COVID-19: 8184

3,254‬ deaths higher than normal after subtracting probable and corona id. This thing is under-counted really.

AirBonner
04-16-2020, 12:34 AM
Hospitals are forging covid19 on death certificates on totally unrelated causes. These hospitals are looking for pandemic relief from the government and this is how they do it.

BarberSchool
04-16-2020, 02:58 AM
Hospitals are forging covid19 on death certificates on totally unrelated causes. These hospitals are looking for pandemic relief from the government and this is how they do it.Yes.
My contention is that the politicians who put this together from these "cooking the books" districts likely coordinated at or at least hinted at such behavior, and not simply for campaign finance kickbacks....but for political optics in the media.

Does anyone doubt this?

Hawker
04-16-2020, 03:05 AM
Hospitals are forging covid19 on death certificates on totally unrelated causes. These hospitals are looking for pandemic relief from the government and this is how they do it.

Unintended consequences and loopholes from government regulations? You dont say?