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STATUTORY
04-15-2020, 10:24 AM
Exerpts from the Victory Machine by Strauss on the Warriors team:



I tried to make a few points, saying I didn’t begrudge him for having leverage with his contract, and insisted that I had good reason to write what I wrote. KD wasn’t impressed and accused me of trying to “rile up Steph’s fans.” He expressed that this was a constant theme in the Bay. All of us local guys just wanted to kiss Steph’s ass at his expense.

“This was KD’s consistent lament. He would frequently squabble in direct-message conversations with the Warriors fans of Twitter, frequently accusing them of favoring Steph at his expense. In one such exchange that foreshadowed things to come, he was asked by the WarriorsWorld account whether two-time MVP Steph Curry or Kyrie Irving was the better player. “I gotta really sit down and analyze it,” Durant demurred.”

You guys gonna write about that? You’re not, are you, because anything Klay does is okay because it’s Klay. But anything I do is not okay because I’m Kevin Durant.’ That wasn’t the only time he complained about how Klay was treated..he felt Klay got a free pass for everything

“It wasn’t just positive coverage of Klay that bothered KD. Letourneau said, “He got annoyed in Dallas when we were asking about Luka Doncic. At the time Luka had more points than him in the All-Star voting and that really pissed him off. It was clear in his comments about Luka that he didn’t feel Luka was deserving of that. At the same time it’s like, dude, who cares?”

“When former Warriors bench scorer Marreese Speights returned to Oracle Arena, he got a hearty ovation from the crowd...“KD—who once complained to a Warriors fan account over Twitter DM that Speights was among the players more accepted by Warriors fans than he—was not pleased.

After the blowout Warriors win that followed, as he waited to take the podium stage, Durant was fixated on a TV that hung from the wall. Speights was with the local TV guys, yukking it up. “Mo Buckets,” Durant loudly groused, shaking his head. “How can you call yourself ‘Mo Buckets’ when you never averaged twenty points a game.”

:roll::roll: @ the bolded

KD had the makings of an EXCELLENT ISH poster

Stanley Kobrick
04-15-2020, 10:27 AM
:lol

red1
04-15-2020, 11:05 AM
kd is a character



such a legendary player but also such a legendary bitch



this guy literally complained that he took the hardest road because he had to pack his bags and move to a city where he doesnt know anyone - boo hoo people move for work all the time you're young and rich what a hard road moving to california


and then he gets mad that the fans like curry and klay more and gets triggered by role players - what a bitch :roll:

Phoenix
04-15-2020, 11:18 AM
Steph is a homegrown Warrior. There's no way KD was ever gonna get the same amount of love Curry gets. Nor was he gonna get the respect he thought he was getting for winning championships in the manner he chose to obtain them. I swear it would be impossible to somehow be 'less' respected AFTER winning titles, but he pulled it off.

SouBeachTalents
04-15-2020, 11:23 AM
https://brobible.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/kdmikey.jpg?quality=90&w=372&h=344

SouBeachTalents
04-15-2020, 11:25 AM
I swear it would be impossible to somehow be 'less' respected AFTER winning titles, but he pulled it off.
I don't even think that's up for debate. I mean sure, he would've still been clowned for being ringless had he stayed on OKC and not won, but he honestly didn't have almost any true haters or critics then. Now? He's legitimately the A-Rod of the NBA, ultra talented, no true fan base, and not respected by most fans

warriorfan
04-15-2020, 11:40 AM
Exerpts from the Victory Machine by Strauss on the Warriors team:



:roll::roll: @ the bolded

KD had the makings of an EXCELLENT ISH poster

Feeling some type of way about Mo Speights

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Phoenix
04-15-2020, 12:14 PM
I don't even think that's up for debate. I mean sure, he would've still been clowned for being ringless had he stayed on OKC and not won, but he honestly didn't have almost any true haters or critics then. Now? He's legitimately the A-Rod of the NBA, ultra talented, no true fan base, and not respected by most fans

I remember the summer of 2018, dude was coming off back to back titles and fmvps. Now when guys do that kind of shit, you start looking at his place in history. But nope. I remember Rondo joining the Lakers being a bigger trending story. That's how much of a f**k people gave about what KD did.

He'd have been more respected gutting it out in OKC and losing, but at least leaving it all on the court. He just happened to lose to a better team. Hell it happens. Lots of genuinely great players dont have a ring because a team or player that was better stood in the way. And I'm not even saying those Warriors teams win in 2017 or 18 without him, maybe they don't but they were easily capable. He just seems weirdly lacking in self-awareness or even some sense of how these things are judged in context. It's never *not* been about how you won chips.

Real Men Wear Green
04-15-2020, 12:18 PM
It's weird for a player to be as great as he is and accomplish all he has and still be this insecure.

SouBeachTalents
04-15-2020, 12:23 PM
I remember the summer of 2018, dude was coming off back to back titles and fmvps. Now when guys do that kind of shit, you start looking at his place in history. But nope. I remember Rondo joining the Lakers being a bigger trending story. That's how much of a f**k people gave about what KD did.

He'd have been more respected gutting it out in OKC and losing, but at least leaving it all on the court. He just happened to lose to a better team. Hell it happens. Lots of genuinely great players dont have a ring because a team or player that was better stood in the way. And I'm not even saying those Warriors teams win in 2017 or 18 without him, maybe they don't but they were easily capable. He just seems weirdly lacking in self-awareness or even some sense of how these things are judged in context. It's never *not* been about how you won chips.
He just went in with the completely wrong expectations. He wants to play with great teammates and win titles? Fine, but don't expect to get the typical superstar credit/bump in the all time rankings when you do. If you're looking for that, stay in OKC, or hell go ANYWHERE else but Golden State (or Cleveland) and win a title and that's what you'd get.

He wanted to join an already established championship team to win titles AND get the lions share of the credit for it, and he miscalculated it badly. And he's only dug his grave deeper with his behavior since then

Stephonit
04-15-2020, 12:47 PM
Great player. He gets more flak than he deserves. Unfortunately as a Warriors fan the insecurity is a turnoff. If right after winning he didn't in the off season say he still didn't feel fulfilled I'd have been more willing to stump for him. But that's kind of a downer to hear isn't it? You already got the sense one foot was out the door after that although to be fair I didn't expect him to stay forever when he first came because it wouldn't have made the most sense. Wish him well though; he is a Warrior. He showed that in the finals.

imdaman99
04-15-2020, 02:00 PM
I don't even think that's up for debate. I mean sure, he would've still been clowned for being ringless had he stayed on OKC and not won, but he honestly didn't have almost any true haters or critics then. Now? He's legitimately the A-Rod of the NBA, ultra talented, no true fan base, and not respected by most fans

While this is all true, in his mind it's better to be polarizing and hated by 99% of people than a non-factor which is what he was in OKC. I'm not saying he didn't have fans, but he was some boring character holding everything back on OKC, wasn't controversial at all. I'm pretty sure he saw how Lebron went from 2007 snoozefest NBA finals that few people watched to box office can't miss once he was a Heatle. Lebron was loveable back in the early Cavs days, now he's a villain to half the NBA fans, basically everyone talks about him and watches every single game he plays waiting for a missed shot to blow their load. KD embraced his inner villain. It could be insecurity, it could be sensitivity but now everyone cares about what he does now. I don't like him at all, but I will watch some Nets games if only to root for him and his buddy Kyrie :lol

ARod is controversial but the most polarizing baseball player since Bonds. I'm sure KD wishes he could be ARod.

Phoenix
04-15-2020, 02:07 PM
While this is all true, in his mind it's better to be polarizing and hated by 99% of people than a non-factor which is what he was in OKC. I'm not saying he didn't have fans, but he was some boring character holding everything back on OKC, wasn't controversial at all. I'm pretty sure he saw how Lebron went from 2007 snoozefest NBA finals that few people watched to box office can't miss once he was a Heatle. Lebron was loveable back in the early Cavs days, now he's a villain to half the NBA fans, basically everyone talks about him and watches every single game he plays waiting for a missed shot to blow their load. KD embraced his inner villain. It could be insecurity, it could be sensitivity but now everyone cares about what he does now. I don't like him at all, but I will watch some Nets games if only to root for him and his buddy Kyrie :lol

ARod is controversial but the most polarizing baseball player since Bonds. I'm sure KD wishes he could be ARod.

Problem is nobody cares about what he does on the basketball court. Whatever role you believe Lebron had embraced people tune to see him win or lose on the court. You care one way or the other, whichever side of the fence you sit on. KD winning or losing is inconsequential for most people. He gained notoriety for the wrong reasons for a guy who says he just 'wants to play ball.'

Haymaker
04-15-2020, 02:22 PM
KD will never be satisfied with anything in his career because he's obviously a mama's boy. Like, literally his mom treated him like royalty and now as an adult he expects the same treatment from everybody. Dude is so insecure he was better off playing an individual sport like boxing. Basketball is about glory and achieving greatness, yes but it's a TEAM sport. Dude think everybody else is to blame and he'll take that mentality with him until retirement and beyond.

FKAri
04-15-2020, 02:25 PM
KD will never be satisfied with anything in his career because he's obviously a mama's boy. Like, literally his mom treated him like royalty and now as an adult he expects the same treatment from everybody. Dude is so insecure he was better off playing an individual sport like boxing. Basketball is about glory and achieving greatness, yes but it's a TEAM sport. Dude think everybody else is to blame and he'll take that mentality with him until retirement and beyond.

KD boxing :oldlol:

imdaman99
04-15-2020, 02:28 PM
Problem is nobody cares about what he does on the basketball court. Whatever role you believe Lebron had embraced people tune to see him win or lose on the court. You care one way or the other, whichever side of the fence you sit on. KD winning or losing is inconsequential for most people. He gained notoriety for the wrong reasons for a guy who says he just 'wants to play ball.'

And to him, that's prob fine because look at us... at least we're talking about him. If he was in OKC playing the goodguy 2nd best player in the world, we wouldn't care outside of a few people. Now we all wanna chime in to express how much of a jackass he is. But he will always be insecure because no one will respect his rings. I guess if he wins on the Nets we might but that's still far from a conclusion.

Overdrive
04-15-2020, 02:29 PM
I really liked him in OKC. Was hoping for him to win in 2016 along Westbrook, but everything after that WCF was a shame.

ralph_i_el
04-15-2020, 02:47 PM
He could have stayed in OKC and avoided all of this...oh wait, he was a bad teammate there too.

STATUTORY
04-15-2020, 03:36 PM
KD will never be satisfied with anything in his career because he's obviously a mama's boy. Like, literally his mom treated him like royalty and now as an adult he expects the same treatment from everybody. Dude is so insecure he was better off playing an individual sport like boxing. Basketball is about glory and achieving greatness, yes but it's a TEAM sport. Dude think everybody else is to blame and he'll take that mentality with him until retirement and beyond.

mama really was da real mvp

red1
04-15-2020, 03:42 PM
mama really was da real mvp

:roll:

ArbitraryWater
04-15-2020, 03:58 PM
KD always been that twitter roasting kid at heart lmao...

nikka hating on the weakest links so he can ignore how stacked the rest is

ArbitraryWater
04-15-2020, 04:00 PM
legendary levels of insecurity

epic article


last paragraphs straight up read like an onion piece

ArbitraryWater
04-15-2020, 04:01 PM
https://brobible.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/kdmikey.jpg?quality=90&w=372&h=344


thats truly taking "reading into it" to a new level.. going on about divisive lmao

Doranku
04-15-2020, 04:26 PM
How can anyone be a fan of this guy?

Cyrus334
04-15-2020, 05:03 PM
I don't know KD at all but from what I've observed, he seems like the kind of guy who needs validation and praise from others in order for him to be truly content with his life. There are people who don't give a shit whether you like them or not, they'll do them but KD is someone who seems like he can't stomach it when people dislike him or don't talk about him positively. That's why he ultimately made the decision to leave Golden State, sure he could have stayed and won more titles but he couldn't take another minute of fans and media calling him a "snake" who doesn't deserve his rings and chose to go to Brooklyn and "re-invent" himself with Kyrie since he's unquestionably the best player and also the face of the franchise.

He saw how Lebron restored his image when he left Miami and won Cleveland their first ring and he probably aims to do the same. Everyone will forget about his Warriors years if he cna lead Brooklyn to a championship.

red1
04-15-2020, 05:09 PM
there are many people in this world like kd.


they are called bitches.



for example jealousy is very much a bitchmade trait trait.


if I'm with a guy thats on a different level from me I wont get salty asking why he gets all the girls - I'll try to learn what he's doing that is working. otherwise you say god bless and you keep it moving.


you dont ask "why does everyone like him and not me"


well kd you got the answer right there - its because you care about things like that



to be fair we do overanalyze and overscrutinize and I'm sure its annoying - he's supposed to understand that he's winning in life the real big picture and that he doesnt need to keep doing this to himself :oldlol:



aka just shut up and dribble lol.

FireDavidKahn
04-15-2020, 06:56 PM
Insecure b bitch

red1
04-15-2020, 07:00 PM
https://brobible.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/kdmikey.jpg?quality=90&w=372&h=344

this is actually one of the funniest things Ive ever seen here





this is the EXACT definition of insecurity :roll:

tpols
04-15-2020, 07:03 PM
https://brobible.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/kdmikey.jpg?quality=90&w=372&h=344

damn... the dubs wouldve had so much better shot against milwaukee than the raptors.

then again klay getting hurt for a whole year kind of killed things.

SouBeachTalents
04-15-2020, 07:09 PM
damn... the dubs wouldve had so much better shot against milwaukee than the raptors.

then again klay getting hurt for a whole year kind of killed things.
In hindsight that's definitely true, but I remember at the time everybody was saying the exact opposite, that they had no chance against the Bucks and that the Raps would be a better match up.

I'm still salty about the Klay injury. There's no guarantees, but I'm very confident if he doesn't get hurt we at least get a Game 7

tpols
04-15-2020, 07:14 PM
In hindsight that's definitely true, but I remember at the time everybody was saying the exact opposite, that they had no chance against the Bucks and that the Raps would be a better match up.

I'm still salty about the Klay injury. There's no guarantees, but I'm very confident if he doesn't get hurt we at least get a Game 7

they said that, but nobody expected kyle lowry, van vleet, and especially siakam to play out of their minds.

That game 1 from siakam was a GOAT finals game he had like 30 on 90% shooting. How does that even happen?

I cant see the bucks supporting cast blowing up like that. And giannis would have a tough time just rim running on them.

Axe
04-15-2020, 09:17 PM
It's weird for a player to be as great as he is and accomplish all he has and still be this insecure.
Because he feels that it isn't that much genuine, after all.

BarberSchool
04-16-2020, 07:17 AM
It's weird for a player to be as great as he is and accomplish all he has and still be this insecure.
Hideously ugly people will be insecure all the way to the grave. Is what it is.

Also, part of it is his own inner guilt for coat-tailing his way to a cheap chip. If you can’t respect yourself how do you expect anyone else to?

SamuraiSWISH
04-16-2020, 07:18 AM
It's weird for a player to be as great as he is and accomplish all he has and still be this insecure.
He also knows what he did was cheap, uncompetitive and fraudulent. That’s why he takes to twitter with Simon esque alts to defend himself. He knows deep down what he did was terrible.

Axe
04-16-2020, 07:24 AM
Hideously ugly people will be insecure all the way to the grave. Is what it is.

Also, part of it is his own inner guilt for coat-tailing his way to a cheap chip. If you can’t respect yourself how do you expect anyone else to?
It took him swallowing his very own pride just to do that.

STATUTORY
04-16-2020, 08:07 AM
Hideously ugly people will be insecure all the way to the grave. Is what it is.

Also, part of it is his own inner guilt for coat-tailing his way to a cheap chip. If you can’t respect yourself how do you expect anyone else to?

dang, u calling KD ugly?

DoctorP
04-16-2020, 08:09 AM
begrudged by Mo Speights? :lol

LukeWalton
04-16-2020, 11:58 AM
he should have stayed in OKC. they worshiped him there.

Real Men Wear Green
04-16-2020, 12:41 PM
While I don't view Durant's chips the way I do Jordan's or Dream's as a simple statement of fact he won them and he was the best player on his team when he did. If he comes back close to the player he was before he got hurt he'll be a top 10 all-time great, maybe even top 5. Best scorer since Jordan. His achievements are massive.

hold this L
04-16-2020, 04:16 PM
It's weird for a player to be as great as he is and accomplish all he has and still be this insecure.
It really is. I thought the Warriors attitude would rub off on KD, but it looked like it had the opposite effect.. somehow. Either way, I thank him for what he did for the three years he was with the team.

hold this L
04-16-2020, 04:18 PM
In hindsight that's definitely true, but I remember at the time everybody was saying the exact opposite, that they had no chance against the Bucks and that the Raps would be a better match up.

I'm still salty about the Klay injury. There's no guarantees, but I'm very confident if he doesn't get hurt we at least get a Game 7

The team was at home and had momentum, 99% the series goes to 7. It felt like the team melted down after that. 2/7 top players were fit by that point in the game.

SouBeachTalents
04-16-2020, 04:19 PM
While I don't view Durant's chips the way I do Jordan's or Dream's as a simple statement of fact he won them and he was the best player on his team when he did. If he comes back close to the player he was before he got hurt he'll be a top 10 all-time great, maybe even top 5. Best scorer since Jordan. His achievements are massive.
Top 10? I really don't see that happening. He's definitely never gonna be MVP again, and I certainly wouldn't pick him to ever win a title in Brooklyn. Short of a title/FMVP before the end of his career, I just don't see him having enough on his resume to push out the likes of Kobe or Hakeem. Both their FMVP's hold significantly more weight, especially Hakeem

Run DLC
04-16-2020, 04:24 PM
Kevin Durant is very envious of LeBron and Curry, especially of LeBron. It’s written all over his face. He wants what they both have. He wants Curry’s lovable personality and media adoration. He wants LeBron’s popularity and all-time status. He needs to accept reality.

Mamba4Life
04-16-2020, 04:26 PM
This is why Kobe is the GOAT.

When he was jealous of Malone and Shaq, he just got them traded, instead of leaving himself.

Kobe is the alpha.

Run DLC
04-16-2020, 04:37 PM
While I don't view Durant's chips the way I do Jordan's or Dream's as a simple statement of fact he won them and he was the best player on his team when he did. If he comes back close to the player he was before he got hurt he'll be a top 10 all-time great, maybe even top 5. Best scorer since Jordan. His achievements are massive.


Top 5-10? Are you out of your mind? What has he done to suggest that he’ll be on the same caliber with the likes of MJ, LeBron, Kareem, Magic, etc?


1. MJ
2. LeBron
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Bill
6. Shaq
7. Bird
8. Hakeem
9. Kobe
10. Wilt

Who is he going to overtake on that list?

Phoenix
04-16-2020, 05:23 PM
While I don't view Durant's chips the way I do Jordan's or Dream's as a simple statement of fact he won them and he was the best player on his team when he did. If he comes back close to the player he was before he got hurt he'll be a top 10 all-time great, maybe even top 5. Best scorer since Jordan. His achievements are massive.

No way he'll get into top 10 status now. His rings don't carry the weight to have significantly moved him up the GOAT ladder from where he was pre-Warriors. Even if he returns to 85-90% of the player he was before the Achilles injury, at 32 time isn't really on his side to do enough to break top 10 status. I don't envision him winning another MVP or championship and even if he somehow managed another of each, which is probably best case scenario, that still won't be enough.

John Connor
04-16-2020, 05:28 PM
While I don't view Durant's chips the way I do Jordan's or Dream's as a simple statement of fact he won them and he was the best player on his team when he did. If he comes back close to the player he was before he got hurt he'll be a top 10 all-time great, maybe even top 5. Best scorer since Jordan. His achievements are massive.

No he will most definitely not ever be a top 5 all time great. He won't end up a top 10 all time great either, ridiculous. That's one of the most hyperbolic statements I've ever seen about that guy. Haha.

Look... these aren't my top 5 personally but I can easily name 5 names that nobody on ISH will disagree with that isn't trolling.

Jordan, Bird, Shaq, Kobe, Wilt. Notice how I didn't even include LeBron, who is higher than some people I named. That's without even getting into guys like Duncan, Hakeem, Russell, Magic, etc... KD isn't even the best player of his era and he wasn't even the best player on his own team on the Warriors. Yes, he was the best 1 on 1 player on the Warriors and probably the league but that's not how the NBA/basketball works.

Top 5 all time great ever? Haha. Haha.

SamuraiSWISH
04-16-2020, 05:38 PM
No way he'll get into top 10 status now. His rings don't carry the weight to have significantly moved him up the GOAT ladder from where he was pre-Warriors. Even if he returns to 85-90% of the player he was before the Achilles injury, at 32 time isn't really on his side to do enough to break top 10 status. I don't envision him winning another MVP or championship and even if he somehow managed another of each, which is probably best case scenario, that still won't be enough.
Totally agree.

And even though I think Kevin is the better basketball player, that’s why Giannis is going to go down, most likely, higher ranked then KD.

He’ll probably have more MVPs. He’ll probably have better accumulative stats. And he doesn’t seem the type to get turned out and need to join a pre existing champion to win easy rings in disloyal bitch made fashion.

So if Giannis does win, his ring will have more weight to it. Because it was earned through the struggles and what he had to work with organically.

STATUTORY
04-16-2020, 05:41 PM
Lebron, Kawhi, Giannis,

KD might wind up being ranked as the 4th best SF of his era when it's all said and done

SamuraiSWISH
04-16-2020, 05:46 PM
Lebron, Kawhi, Giannis,

KD might wind up being ranked as the 4th best SF of his era when it's all said and done

One MVP and Leonard is definitely better and ranked higher. Giannis same, with rings.

Real Men Wear Green
04-16-2020, 06:01 PM
It seems like you guys didn't notice that he's made all NBA first team 6 times. That for the last decade he's averaged over 25 points shooting most seasons over 50%. Two seasons over 30ppg with the known ability ro do it any season he wanted to. Only 5 players in history have 4 scoring titles. Durant is one of them. He's the greatest scorer most of you have ever seen and he's also an excellent defender with a number of 5+ assist per game seasons. No player in the history of the league would be able to stop him but on the other end he could defend any wing.

Real Men Wear Green
04-16-2020, 06:07 PM
Lebron, Kawhi, Giannis,

KD might wind up being ranked as the 4th best SF of his era when it's all said and done
James is above him. Giannis could be one day but right now isn't close. Leonard? That's ridiculous. There is no comparing the career stats and the way he has to load manage Leonard may just retire first.

Phoenix
04-16-2020, 06:12 PM
Totally agree.

And even though I think Kevin is the better basketball player, that’s why Giannis is going to go down, most likely, higher ranked then KD.

He’ll probably have more MVPs. He’ll probably have better accumulative stats. And he doesn’t seem the type to get turned out and need to join a pre existing champion to win easy rings in disloyal bitch made fashion.

So if Giannis does win, his ring will have more weight to it. Because it was earned through the struggles and what he had to work with organically.

He's certainly the more skilled talent and the better 'high stakes' player until Giannis proves he can overcome the rim being shut off completely like Toronto did last year. But as far as dominance over a season, I think current Giannis is a better floor raiser and able to impose his will physically on a game that KD can't match. I don't believe the Bucks are near this good with KD in place of him.

Greek Freak is like 25 putting up 2000 Shaq numbers except in 31 mins a night. He keeps that pace up over the next 6-7 years, he's likely to end up with 3-4 MVPs and if he manages to drive the Bucks towards a title or two, he's easily going to be ranked higher than KD when it's all said and done. And when you look at the current landscape of the league, barring unforeseen moves that shift the power balance, IMO its trending that way for Freak to do that.

Nilocon165
04-16-2020, 06:20 PM
Every time I think “maybe KD isn’t so bad....” something like this ALWAYS comes out:oldlol:

The least emotionally mature 30 year old I’ve ever seen

Axe
04-16-2020, 07:10 PM
Lebron, Kawhi, Giannis,

KD might wind up being ranked as the 4th best SF of his era when it's all said and done
Kd will likely start to become a role player in the nets.

Phoenix
04-17-2020, 03:28 AM
It seems like you guys didn't notice that he's made all NBA first team 6 times. That for the last decade he's averaged over 25 points shooting most seasons over 50%. Two seasons over 30ppg with the known ability ro do it any season he wanted to. Only 5 players in history have 4 scoring titles. Durant is one of them. He's the greatest scorer most of you have ever seen and he's also an excellent defender with a number of 5+ assist per game seasons. No player in the history of the league would be able to stop him but on the other end he could defend any wing.

KDs individual prowess isnt in question. With all that said is there some reason why people havent plopped him into their top 10 already, or even top 15? Who are you removing from the generally accepted top 10 to make way for him? If he comes back and rings off a 3 peat or even a back to back with a couple of MVPs then sure, let's have that discussion. Otherwise, has he done enough *relative* to the top 10 guys as of this moment? His championships aren't considered as impressive in terms of how he won because of who he joined. Tipping the odds in your favor with that much wiggle room has to be factored in here somewhere. Is that a fair critique?

I look at Dirks championship in 2011. Should I feel that KDs rings carry more weight than that ( and for the record KD was much better in his finals than Dirk was). But him joining the Warriors gave him a cushion few greats had the luxury of having. He choose to put himself in that situation. He was more than entitled to do so. But that doesn't entitle him to circumvent the standard of winning we apply to others, at least those without agendas who try to weigh these things as fairly as possible. Let's say KD stayed in OKC and won in 2017 or 2018. And that's the only title he won, compared to the 2 he won with Golden State. Many people would hold that single title in OKC in higher regard than the two with GS. Are we looking at this wrong?

warriorfan
04-17-2020, 03:54 AM
It seems like you guys didn't notice that he's made all NBA first team 6 times. That for the last decade he's averaged over 25 points shooting most seasons over 50%. Two seasons over 30ppg with the known ability ro do it any season he wanted to. Only 5 players in history have 4 scoring titles. Durant is one of them. He's the greatest scorer most of you have ever seen and he's also an excellent defender with a number of 5+ assist per game seasons. No player in the history of the league would be able to stop him but on the other end he could defend any wing.

He’s no doubt one of the most talented players of all time. But talent doesn’t get you everything, you need results. He put up a lot of low impact seasons despite stats with OKC, had a lot of talent and a great young team but couldn’t get it to work. Was forced to join a team with an already established rep and culture in order to win. The results and intangibles arnt doing him any favors. Let’s be honest for a second, KD is pretty much a piece of shit of a person. He’s whiny, passive aggressive, extremely negative. He’s the opposite of a person that people want to be around. He’s not inspiring or motivating. He’s a guy who has it all yet still complains and acts like a bitch constantly. Literally no one likes him.

Lebowski
04-17-2020, 04:01 AM
... Let’s be honest for a second, KD is pretty much a piece of shit of a person. He’s whiny, passive aggressive, extremely negative. He’s the opposite of a person that people want to be around. He’s not inspiring or motivating. He’s a guy who has it all yet still complains and acts like a bitch constantly. Literally no one likes him.

And yet, someone squeezed out, "Hey let's pair KD with Kyrie!". To me, that is a disaster just waiting to happen, with zero NBA rings to show for it.

Pipes2.0
04-17-2020, 04:01 AM
Not a lot of things unite ISH and have all its posters agree on the same thing.
KD being a bitch is one of them.

Axe
04-17-2020, 04:58 AM
And yet, someone squeezed out, "Hey let's pair KD with Kyrie!". To me, that is a disaster just waiting to happen, with zero NBA rings to show for it.
You should tell manny that tbh.

Manny98
04-17-2020, 06:04 AM
And yet, someone squeezed out, "Hey let's pair KD with Kyrie!". To me, that is a disaster just waiting to happen, with zero NBA rings to show for it.

Cringe

KD & Kyrie will be the next Kobe & Shaq. At least 3 championships in the next 5 years

Axe
04-17-2020, 06:07 AM
Oh, speak of the devil.

Phoenix
04-17-2020, 07:40 AM
Cringe

KD & Kyrie will be the next Kobe & Shaq. At least 3 championships in the next 5 years

They won't even get to the finals. Bookmark it.

John Connor
04-17-2020, 09:01 AM
Cringe

KD & Kyrie will be the next Kobe & Shaq. At least 3 championships in the next 5 years

That is one of the worst posts I've ever seen from someone that was being serious.

Delete your account.

Axe
04-17-2020, 09:18 AM
That is one of the worst posts I've ever seen from someone that was being serious.

Delete your account.
That's also the same guy who roots for lebron as well. Eew. 🤮

SouBeachTalents
04-17-2020, 09:37 AM
And yet, someone squeezed out, "Hey let's pair KD with Kyrie!". To me, that is a disaster just waiting to happen, with zero NBA rings to show for it.
I mean I get it from ownership perspective, the Nets have been totally irrelevant since the Kidd Finals days, and what's indisputable about these two are they're marquee names and extremely talented players, with KD obv having being a top 5 player for the last decade.

But damn, all that money spent, and they get 20 games combined that first season together :lol Although I guess it didn't matter since it looks like this'll be a lost season anyway. At minimum, those two will bring in the fans and they should, barring disaster, be a playoff team for the next few seasons. But legitimate championship contenders? I really don't see it. And these two mental cases being on the same team, putting them in positions of leadership, in addition to the scrutiny and pressure they'll be under from the New York media and fans? There's definitely potential for the whole experiment to end in catastrophe

But honestly, I think the moves were worth it, at least from a perspective of making your team relevant, but no doubt they're at huge risk of this to backfire with very minimal chance of a championship

Phoenix
04-17-2020, 09:40 AM
That is one of the worst posts I've ever seen from someone that was being serious.

Delete your account.

Manny has over 12,000 posts and you could literally made this comment about most of them.

Real Men Wear Green
04-17-2020, 10:12 AM
KDs individual prowess isnt in question. With all that said is there some reason why people havent plopped him into their top 10 already, or even top 15? Who are you removing from the generally accepted top 10 to make way for him? If he comes back and rings off a 3 peat or even a back to back with a couple of MVPs then sure, let's have that discussion. Otherwise, has he done enough *relative* to the top 10 guys as of this moment? His championships aren't considered as impressive in terms of how he won because of who he joined. Tipping the odds in your favor with that much wiggle room has to be factored in here somewhere. Is that a fair critique?

I look at Dirks championship in 2011. Should I feel that KDs rings carry more weight than that ( and for the record KD was much better in his finals than Dirk was). But him joining the Warriors gave him a cushion few greats had the luxury of having. He choose to put himself in that situation. He was more than entitled to do so. But that doesn't entitle him to circumvent the standard of winning we apply to others, at least those without agendas who try to weigh these things as fairly as possible. Let's say KD stayed in OKC and won in 2017 or 2018. And that's the only title he won, compared to the 2 he won with Golden State. Many people would hold that single title in OKC in higher regard than the two with GS. Are we looking at this wrong?
One of the main reasons I kept my argument to stats and skills is that it's hard to weigh Durant's rings the same as past greats. But that doesn't mean that they don't matter. What is fair to say about him based on what he's shown is that he can be counted upon to perform at the extremely high level he does in the regular season in the postseason. And it isn't just about what he did in G State, he also led the Thunder to the Finals. For most ATGs it's not just about counting rings it's about what the ring count shows about the player. Jordan's 6 prove beyond the shadow of doubt that he's a great playoff performer. Durant most definitely did not show himself to be a great competitor but he has shown himself to be a great player which is what my focus is on. If I am picking between Durant and Steph Curry for the guy I want to build my team around from the start of their career I pick Curry because I have more faith in him to stay around and stick with the team through the tough times. But Durant is the better player and it's really not even a question even though Curry has both an extra ring and an extra MVP award. So if Durant can have another four or five years where he is first team All-NBA and leads the Nets to the Finals a few times maybe even winning a ring and also possibly adding another MVP now that he's on a team where he'll have to go all out like he used to in OKC I can definitely see him joining the top 10 and possibly top 5 if he wins championships and/or MVPs.

Da_Realist
04-17-2020, 10:45 AM
It'll be interesting to see how Durant responds. MJ immediately won a couple of titles right after Sam Smith's The Jordan Rules with the same teammates, coaching staff and media sniping at him behind his back. It took Kobe a couple of years but he eventually won back-to-back with Phil Jackson after Phil called him a coach killer. I don't expect Durant to win a title next year but you can still determine if winning will be how he intends to deal with all this backlash or if he'll just whine about how unfair everything is. He should go on his own personal "Shut the F Up" tour, become the undisputed best player in the NBA and eventually win a title or two. He has the talent.

Run DLC
04-17-2020, 11:05 AM
Cringe

KD & Kyrie will be the next Kobe & Shaq. At least 3 championships in the next 5 years

Two ballhoggers who can’t make their teammates better are somehow going to win 3 championships in the next 5 years. If I was a betting man, I’d place a bet with you right now that the outcome of that happening are slim to none.

Run DLC
04-17-2020, 11:15 AM
Since I can’t make a thread at the moment, where do most of guys have Durant ranked on the ATG list?

SouBeachTalents
04-17-2020, 11:23 AM
Since I can’t make a thread at the moment, where do most of guys have Durant ranked on the ATG list?
I'd have him about 20th, around the same tier as dudes like KG/Dirk/Barkley/Robinson

Darius
04-17-2020, 11:55 AM
One of the main reasons I kept my argument to stats and skills is that it's hard to weigh Durant's rings the same as past greats. But that doesn't mean that they don't matter. What is fair to say about him based on what he's shown is that he can be counted upon to perform at the extremely high level he does in the regular season in the postseason. And it isn't just about what he did in G State, he also led the Thunder to the Finals. For most ATGs it's not just about counting rings it's about what the ring count shows about the player. Jordan's 6 prove beyond the shadow of doubt that he's a great playoff performer. Durant most definitely did not show himself to be a great competitor but he has shown himself to be a great player which is what my focus is on. If I am picking between Durant and Steph Curry for the guy I want to build my team around from the start of their career I pick Curry because I have more faith in him to stay around and stick with the team through the tough times. But Durant is the better player and it's really not even a question even though Curry has both an extra ring and an extra MVP award. So if Durant can have another four or five years where he is first team All-NBA and leads the Nets to the Finals a few times maybe even winning a ring and also possibly adding another MVP now that he's on a team where he'll have to go all out like he used to in OKC I can definitely see him joining the top 10 and possibly top 5 if he wins championships and/or MVPs.

Curry over KD?? Comon man. That's crazy talk.

I can't think of a single all-time great player in the modern age that doesn't have some difficult personality issues. Usually it's extreme narcissism (Jordan, Kobe, LBJ) but it's always something... you just need to build around it and deal with it.

Real Men Wear Green
04-17-2020, 01:01 PM
Curry over KD?? Comon man. That's crazy talk. Curry has 2 MVP awards and isn't the kind of guy that would leave a team join the team that beat his team. I don't think Durant is a bad guy but I would prefer to have my best player be more competitive and feel more loyalty. Curry has unquestionably been better for the Warriors than Durant was for the Thunder.

Stephonit
04-17-2020, 01:08 PM
Curry over KD?? Comon man. That's crazy talk.

I can't think of a single all-time great player in the modern age that doesn't have some difficult personality issues. Usually it's extreme narcissism (Jordan, Kobe, LBJ) but it's always something... you just need to build around it and deal with it.

What's this based on?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dne9aU0UwAAuusD.jpg
https://mobile.twitter.com/ElGee35/status/1042510115541213184?p=v

What's Curry's difficult personality issues? You don't think Curry is an all-time great player in the modern age?

Mr Feeny
04-17-2020, 01:11 PM
Curry over KD?? Comon man. That's crazy talk.

I can't think of a single all-time great player in the modern age that doesn't have some difficult personality issues. Usually it's extreme narcissism (Jordan, Kobe, LBJ) but it's always something... you just need to build around it and deal with it.

I think Steph is better as well.

ArbitraryWater
04-17-2020, 01:17 PM
Curry over KD?? Comon man. That's crazy talk.

I can't think of a single all-time great player in the modern age that doesn't have some difficult personality issues. Usually it's extreme narcissism (Jordan, Kobe, LBJ) but it's always something... you just need to build around it and deal with it.

Curry > KD

Even weird folks like RMWG who talk about KD being top 10 all time can see that

John Connor
04-17-2020, 01:26 PM
If the game is on the line and you can't get your offense going and you absolutely need someone to break the defense down by themselves and get their own shot, Kevin Durant is your guy.

If you're having a 1 on 1 tournament, which is irrelevant to the NBA and basketball in general really, Kevin Durant is your guy.

Kevin Durant is a better defender across the board.

But the offensive impact on an entire team is so wide that it can't be ignored and Curry is so far out in front that it makes him the more valuable player overall.

If there was no such thing as a three point line, I would probably have a different answer... but there is, and I don't.

Phoenix
04-17-2020, 01:30 PM
One of the main reasons I kept my argument to stats and skills is that it's hard to weigh Durant's rings the same as past greats. But that doesn't mean that they don't matter. What is fair to say about him based on what he's shown is that he can be counted upon to perform at the extremely high level he does in the regular season in the postseason. And it isn't just about what he did in G State, he also led the Thunder to the Finals. For most ATGs it's not just about counting rings it's about what the ring count shows about the player. Jordan's 6 prove beyond the shadow of doubt that he's a great playoff performer. Durant most definitely did not show himself to be a great competitor but he has shown himself to be a great player which is what my focus is on. If I am picking between Durant and Steph Curry for the guy I want to build my team around from the start of their career I pick Curry because I have more faith in him to stay around and stick with the team through the tough times. But Durant is the better player and it's really not even a question even though Curry has both an extra ring and an extra MVP award. So if Durant can have another four or five years where he is first team All-NBA and leads the Nets to the Finals a few times maybe even winning a ring and also possibly adding another MVP now that he's on a team where he'll have to go all out like he used to in OKC I can definitely see him joining the top 10 and possibly top 5 if he wins championships and/or MVPs.

It's not that his rings don't count 'at all', he was the best player in the finals for the Warriors both years they won. But what I feel it comes down to is 'when all else is equal' the context of how they won their championships is where you separate the cream. The sum of KDs game has a very short list of players who equal or exceed it. That's why we can say hes one of the great talents to ever play. But in reference to your comment about what ring count says about the player, how KD went about acquiring his rings also tells me something about him that doesnt show up on the boxscore or checklist of accolades. Something lacking in the gut that required him to seek out a ready made championship team. None of the guys we consider GOATS were the cherry on top, as much as they were the driving force. He can validate those championships and his own historical greatness with a ring or two in Brooklyn, but until such point......hes got a long line ahead of him to break into that top 10 range IMO.

warriorfan
04-17-2020, 01:32 PM
What's this based on?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dne9aU0UwAAuusD.jpg
https://mobile.twitter.com/ElGee35/status/1042510115541213184?p=v

What's Curry's difficult personality issues? You don't think Curry is an all-time great player in the modern age?

Stats show Curry has more impact. Eye test showed that warriors were better with Curry and no KD rather than vice versa

Real Men Wear Green
04-17-2020, 01:33 PM
Curry > KD

Even weird folks like RMWG who talk about KD being top 10 all time can see that That isn't what I said. I don't expect you to understand what I've been saying but that isn't it. There is a difference between how good a player is and what kind of personality he possesses.

Manny98
04-17-2020, 02:45 PM
That is one of the worst posts I've ever seen from someone that was being serious.

Delete your account.

Who's stopping KD & Kyrie please tell me

We have never seen a duo this gifted offensively EVER then you throw in Spencer Dinwiddie & Caris LeVert who can go off for 40 on any given night then you throw in the best center rotation in the NBA with Allen and Jordan :eek:

I literally get goosebumps just thinking about the damage we're going to do next season

Manny98
04-17-2020, 02:45 PM
They won't even get to the finals. Bookmark it.

:roll::roll::roll:

Manny98
04-17-2020, 02:46 PM
Since I can’t make a thread at the moment, where do most of guys have Durant ranked on the ATG list?

Top 10

hold this L
04-17-2020, 02:51 PM
What happens if the Warriors wins a 4th ring in the next 2 seasons and KD doesn't win anymore? What will the narrative be then?

Manny98
04-17-2020, 02:56 PM
Warriors are done lol :oldlol:

Real Men Wear Green
04-17-2020, 02:57 PM
Who's stopping KD & Kyrie please tell me

We have never seen a duo this gifted offensively EVER then you throw in Spencer Dinwiddie & Caris LeVert who can go off for 40 on any given night then you throw in the best center rotation in the NBA with Allen and Jordan :eek:

I literally get goosebumps just thinking about the damage we're going to do next season

KD and kyrie is inferior to KD and Steph. We don't even have to go back that far. They will be a great duo if Durant comes back strong but it he doesn't they won't be noteworthy. Irving has never carried a team anywhere. I don't know where they would rank as a duo because it's not even worth thinking about.

I'm not a doctor so my opinion is uneducated but my guess is Durant still scores over twenty but is bo longer a great defender. Achilles tear has to cost him some agility.

Phoenix
04-17-2020, 03:21 PM
Who's stopping KD & Kyrie please tell me

We have never seen a duo this gifted offensively EVER then you throw in Spencer Dinwiddie & Caris LeVert who can go off for 40 on any given night then you throw in the best center rotation in the NBA with Allen and Jordan :eek:

I literally get goosebumps just thinking about the damage we're going to do next season

2nd round team at best.

Manny98
04-17-2020, 04:05 PM
KD and kyrie is inferior to KD and Steph. We don't even have to go back that far. They will be a great duo if Durant comes back strong but it he doesn't they won't be noteworthy. Irving has never carried a team anywhere. I don't know where they would rank as a duo because it's not even worth thinking about.

I'm not a doctor so my opinion is uneducated but my guess is Durant still scores over twenty but is bo longer a great defender. Achilles tear has to cost him some agility.

It doesn't matter if they're are inferior there is no other team that is going to stop them

LeBron is old af

Harden and Westbrook are playoff chokers

KD owns Kawhi h2h

Bucks are a regular season team

Warriors are done

Everyone else isn't even worth mentioning

Nets win 3/5 I book it

BasedTom
04-17-2020, 04:31 PM
I'm honest to god not even ****ing around when I say that whenever you bring up Durant, my mind still views him as ringless. And it's not even me going out of my way to hate him or deny it. I can't bring myself to care that much. It's more of a blur and my initial thought is "Oh yeah steph klay and iggy won fmvp those years, right?" I think its the same way for a lot of people, and that must really **** with KD. Especially compared to when Dirk, Lebron and others finally won their rings and you knew you were lucky to be watching history in the making.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81Nct1vsSLL._AC_SX522_.jpg

Doesn't help that was around the time they stopped bringing out Bill Russell, took off the NBA Finals Court Decals, and had really boring seasons overall with a boring ass 'rivalry' in the finals every year.

Doranku
04-17-2020, 04:41 PM
Cringe

KD & Kyrie will be the next Kobe & Shaq. At least 3 championships in the next 5 years

Bruh. :lol I would take Shaq alone over post-Achilles KD and post-flat world Kyrie.

red1
04-17-2020, 04:54 PM
Cringe

KD & Kyrie will be the next Kobe & Shaq. At least 3 championships in the next 5 years
https://media.tenor.com/images/e67977be0e7bf84cd9fa3567515fd9a2/tenor.gif
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Kblaze8855
04-17-2020, 06:32 PM
From a straight up ball standpoint? Like....disregard him being one of the most cringe inducing athletes in history?

Kevin Durant has been good enough to compare with anyone. Literally. Put him and Bird, Kobe, Lebron, Jordan, Shaq, or whoever on a court he’s gonna still look like a total freak of nature who stands out. We are taking a 7 footer with near guard handles(we pretend carries don’t exist these days), all time elite midrange shooting, legit 35 foot range, hard to fathom coordination for his size, on and off the ball defense and really good passing.

Kevin Durant is objectively a basketball machine. His ability to play basketball can totally be called top 5ish all time. But he’s never gonna get that ranking and a lot of it is making himself so hard to root for.

Evaluated just as a collection of basketball skills mixed with athletic traits? Peak KD is right there with anyone you wanna talk about. That man is a monster.

But that isn’t how the rankings tend to work. David Robinson was objectively a monster too. But something just wasn’t there. Durant, Drob, and even guys like Bob Mcadoo....all total “Wtf?” outliers talent wise.

But rankings are as much about narrative as basketball.

There have been maybe 25-30 top 5ish talents but it just doesn’t all come together for most.

KD is one of them.

MrFonzworth
04-17-2020, 07:30 PM
Bruh. :lol I would take Shaq alone over post-Achilles KD and post-flat world Kyrie.
:roll::roll::roll:

Axe
04-17-2020, 07:34 PM
What's this based on?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dne9aU0UwAAuusD.jpg
https://mobile.twitter.com/ElGee35/status/1042510115541213184?p=v

What's Curry's difficult personality issues? You don't think Curry is an all-time great player in the modern age?
Teammate vs. teammate for 3 seasons 🤣

red1
04-17-2020, 07:45 PM
Cringe

KD & Kyrie will be the next Kobe & Shaq. At least 3 championships in the next 5 years

I'm crying guys

https://media.tenor.com/images/e67977be0e7bf84cd9fa3567515fd9a2/tenor.gif
https://media.tenor.com/images/e67977be0e7bf84cd9fa3567515fd9a2/tenor.gif

warriorfan
04-17-2020, 07:46 PM
Stop quoting manny you assholes. It’s bypassing my ignore feature.

red1
04-17-2020, 07:51 PM
From a straight up ball standpoint? Like....disregard him being one of the most cringe inducing athletes in history?

Kevin Durant has been good enough to compare with anyone. Literally. Put him and Bird, Kobe, Lebron, Jordan, Shaq, or whoever on a court he’s gonna still look like a total freak of nature who stands out.

But that isn’t how the rankings tend to work. David Robinson was objectively a monster too. But something just wasn’t there. Durant, Drob, and even guys like Bob Mcadoo....all total “Wtf?” outliers talent wise.

But rankings are as much about narrative as basketball.

There have been maybe 25-30 top 5ish talents but it just doesn’t all come together for most.

KD is one of them.

durant is a god on the court. this lanky ****er has been unguardable since he was 20 years old. very fun to watch in okc.


which is why I hate him. he literally ruined the playoffs for two years after one of the most entertaining finals of all-time.


the warriors went 16-1 in the 2017 playoffs and you can definitely argue that they underachieved because they definitely couldve swept the cavs being the only team in NBA history to go through the playoffs and finals undefeated going 16-0. they also definitely could've won more games in the regular season.


he was on the court for one quarter in the finals last year and you could tell it would be warriors in 5 if he played the entire series. with kd klay and steph on the court at the same time you cant guard that they dont even come down for open layups they just pull up for threes no problem just figure out who takes the open shots because they could pass it and get open look after open look. the game is an easy win for the warriors even if the games look close.


thats how you know a warriors 3peat wasnt meant to be even though they are stacked at an all-time level - the basketball gods just wouldnt allow it :roll:


2018 warriors would've won the ring if you removed him and didnt make any other changes to their roster.



but he thinks it was hard.


thats why I think he's a bitch.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kevin-durant-on-joining-golden-state-warriors-the-hardest-road-to-a-championship-070716


IMO you're banned from the top-10 by default because there's just too many good players and at that point its almost subjective anyways could probably roll the dice and you'd have a shot to win the ring with any of the top-10 if they all played in the same league. so with the margins that small things like character and personality play a role which is why laziness is penalized (shaq couldve been 1) and sociopathy should be rewarded over friendliness even if the gap in shooting ability wasnt there (mj vs lebron)

getting back to kd if he said "guys I already have an MVP and I'm ****ing sick of these hicks and westbrick chucking shots **** that shit Im out I'm moving to california to chip up and grab some rings these haters are annoying I just need championships lebron did it Im gonna do it better"


holy shit if he said or did that - then I would actually respect this guy. I would still hate him but would have to respect him.


I didnt even mention the fact that he literally went to the team that he borderline choked against, the team that beat his team while he was up 3-1 :facepalm

Manny98
04-17-2020, 07:56 PM
durant is a god on the court. this lanky ****er has been unguardable since he was 20 years old. very fun to watch in okc.


which is why I hate him. he literally ruined the playoffs for two years after one of the most entertaining finals of all-time.


the warriors went 16-1 in the 2017 playoffs and you can definitely argue that they underachieved because they defintitely couldve swept the cavs being the only team to 16-0 and they definitely could've won more games in the regular season.


he was on the court for one quarter in the finals last year and you could tell it would be warriors in 5 if he played the entire series. thats how you know a warriors 3peat wasnt meant to be even though they are stacked at an all-time level - the basketball gods just wouldnt allow it :roll:


2018 warriors would've won the ring if you removed him and didnt make any other changes to their roster.



but he thinks it was hard.


thats why I think he's a bitch.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kevin-durant-on-joining-golden-state-warriors-the-hardest-road-to-a-championship-070716


IMO you're banned from the top-10 by default because there's just too many good players and at that point its almost subjective anyways could probably roll the dice and you'd have a shot to win the ring with any of the top-10 if they all played in the same league. so with the margins that small things like character and personality play a role which is why laziness is penalized (shaq couldve been 1) and sociopathy should be rewarded over friendliness even if the gap is shooting ability wasnt there (mj vs lebron)

getting back to kd if he said "guys I already have an MVP and I'm ****ing sick of these hicks and westbrick chucking shots **** that shit Im out I'm moving to california to chip up and grab some rings these haters are annoying I just need championships lebron did it Im gonna do it better"


holy shit if he said or did that - then I would actually respect this guy. I would still hate him but would have to respect him.


I didnt even mention the fact that he literally went to the team that he borderline choked against, the team that beat his team he was up 3-1 :facepalm

So much hate in this post

I guess when your as good as KD and any team you join instantly become favourites then a lot of haters would become of it

red1
04-17-2020, 07:58 PM
So much hate in this post

I guess when your as good as KD and any team you join instantly become favourites then a lot of haters would become of it

all facts doe. its all 100% reasonable. nothing manipulated or unfair.


I'm not the one jealous of my own teammates. that shit is disgusting.

red1
04-17-2020, 08:02 PM
what did mo speights ever do to kd

RRR3
04-17-2020, 08:03 PM
what did mo speights ever do to kd
Chucked up a lot of shots that could have gone to KD I guess?

Axe
04-17-2020, 08:08 PM
durant is a god on the court. this lanky ****er has been unguardable since he was 20 years old. very fun to watch in okc.


which is why I hate him. he literally ruined the playoffs for two years after one of the most entertaining finals of all-time.


the warriors went 16-1 in the 2017 playoffs and you can definitely argue that they underachieved because they definitely couldve swept the cavs being the only team in NBA history to go through the playoffs and finals undefeated going 16-0. they also definitely could've won more games in the regular season.


he was on the court for one quarter in the finals last year and you could tell it would be warriors in 5 if he played the entire series. with kd klay and steph on the court at the same time you cant guard that they dont even come down for open layups they just pull up for threes no problem just figure out who takes the open shots because they could pass it and get open look after open look. the game is an easy win for the warriors even if the games look close.


thats how you know a warriors 3peat wasnt meant to be even though they are stacked at an all-time level - the basketball gods just wouldnt allow it :roll:


2018 warriors would've won the ring if you removed him and didnt make any other changes to their roster.



but he thinks it was hard.


thats why I think he's a bitch.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kevin-durant-on-joining-golden-state-warriors-the-hardest-road-to-a-championship-070716


IMO you're banned from the top-10 by default because there's just too many good players and at that point its almost subjective anyways could probably roll the dice and you'd have a shot to win the ring with any of the top-10 if they all played in the same league. so with the margins that small things like character and personality play a role which is why laziness is penalized (shaq couldve been 1) and sociopathy should be rewarded over friendliness even if the gap in shooting ability wasnt there (mj vs lebron)

getting back to kd if he said "guys I already have an MVP and I'm ****ing sick of these hicks and westbrick chucking shots **** that shit Im out I'm moving to california to chip up and grab some rings these haters are annoying I just need championships lebron did it Im gonna do it better"


holy shit if he said or did that - then I would actually respect this guy. I would still hate him but would have to respect him.


I didnt even mention the fact that he literally went to the team that he borderline choked against, the team that beat his team while he was up 3-1 :facepalm
Probably you also hate him because his arrival to gs meant no more ring for cleveland.

warriorfan
04-17-2020, 08:11 PM
Chucked up a lot of shots that could have gone to KD I guess?

Kd never even played with him

red1
04-17-2020, 08:12 PM
Probably you also hate him because his arrival to gs meant no more ring for cleveland.

I act like a cavs fan because I know kyrie triggers 3ball and because its funny. I only like lebron Im a fan of kyrie too and guys like richard jefferson or delly because he locked up curry


I have no love for the cavs - raptors 1 cavs 1


lebronto my ass **** outta my conference flop-boy. we da champs


https://media.giphy.com/media/M9CR0wM5rALhNzBpzU/giphy.gif

hold this L
04-17-2020, 08:20 PM
It doesn't matter if they're are inferior there is no other team that is going to stop them

LeBron is old af

Harden and Westbrook are playoff chokers

KD owns Kawhi h2h

Bucks are a regular season team

Warriors are done

Everyone else isn't even worth mentioning

Nets win 3/5 I book it
This is one of those where people will bring up every year and this topic lives for the next 10 years on ish.. except it will be in classic style of

:roll::roll::roll:

red1
04-17-2020, 08:29 PM
This is one of those where people will bring up every year and this topic lives for the next 10 years on ish.. except it will be in classic style of

:roll::roll::roll:
:oldlol:


and to think someone asked to ban this kid :oldlol:


trash talk is like putting money on a game it raises the stakes and makes it more fun - poor manny is 0-100.

gotta give him credit though hes got heart keeps coming back for more getting wrecked again and again and again :roll:

houston
04-17-2020, 10:40 PM
He’s no doubt one of the most talented players of all time. But talent doesn’t get you everything, you need results. He put up a lot of low impact seasons despite stats with OKC, had a lot of talent and a great young team but couldn’t get it to work. Was forced to join a team with an already established rep and culture in order to win. The results and intangibles arnt doing him any favors. Let’s be honest for a second, KD is pretty much a piece of shit of a person. He’s whiny, passive aggressive, extremely negative. He’s the opposite of a person that people want to be around. He’s not inspiring or motivating. He’s a guy who has it all yet still complains and acts like a bitch constantly. Literally no one likes him.



exactly this post sums it up. Tracy Mcgrady was the same way. Alot of problems in OKC was Durant fault and the media use Westbrook and management as the scapegoat.

knicksman
04-17-2020, 10:51 PM
damn KD. You got more from than they get from you. The fcuk is wrong with you. So fckin insecure.

Stephonit
04-18-2020, 12:48 AM
The media twisting his words as usual. What he really felt might have been disappointing but he carried himself professionally save for the Twitter outbursts.

SamuraiSWISH
04-18-2020, 01:53 AM
The media twisting his words as usual. What he really felt might have been disappointing but he carried himself professionally save for the Twitter outbursts.

Please ..:

Nilocon165
04-18-2020, 06:21 AM
Have any of you ever met a KD stan in person?

Axe
04-18-2020, 06:23 AM
Have any of you ever met a KD stan in person?
None so far.

Nilocon165
04-18-2020, 06:52 AM
Closest I’ve gotten is dudes just obsessed with proving he’s better than Bron, none of them actually care about the guy himself

Run DLC
04-18-2020, 09:27 PM
Closest I’ve gotten is dudes just obsessed with proving he’s better than Bron, none of them actually care about the guy himself

I noticed that too. I’ve seen it on Twitter all the time. I blame guys like Stephen A Smith and Skip for planting that seed and pushing that narrative out there.