Who is the best scorer of the 2010s?

[Turbo Slayer]

Who is the best scorer of this decade? KD? LeBron? James Harden? Curry? Kobe?

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[SouBeachTalents]

Kobe? :oldlol:

[Rysio]

KD

[Manny98]

KD

[Wally450]

Its Durant. His skillset is the most filled out top to bottom.

[Stephonit]

Only one player forced defenses to reinvent themselves to try to contain him: Stephen Curry.

[FromDowntown]

Scoring gets a little easier when you join an MVP and 73 win team. KD wasn't shit without the Warriors.

Owned in 2012 Finals
Owned in 2016 choking a 3-1 lead

[LoneyROY7]

Harden had 23 50+ point games during the decade.

KD, Bron, and Curry combined for 18. Postseason included.

[Whoah10115]

Only one player forced defenses to reinvent themselves to try to contain him: Stephen Curry.

Very good point. But as far as pure scoring I'd probably have to go with Durant.

Someone mentioned Harden. I have been a fan before, but I honestly hate his game the last couple years. He dominates the ball more than anyone I can remember, and often settles for jumpshots.

[Turbo Slayer]

Harden is less efficient than KD and Curry though.

[LoneyROY7]

40+ point games in the playoffs during the decade:

Bron - 18 (pretty crazy)

KD - 10

Harden - 8

Curry - 5

[Turbo Slayer]

Curry demolishes Harden when it comes to comparing offensive peaks.

Curry is a better shooter, better FT shooter, better at the three, and better at 2 point range.

[LoneyROY7]

Curry demolishes Harden when it comes to comparing offensive peaks.

Curry is a better shooter, better FT shooter, better at the three, and better at 2 point range.

What's Curry's peak? 1 year? Lol.

Harden has been scoring 29+ ppg for 5 straight years. Curry has one 29+ ppg season.

[Turbo Slayer]

What's Curry's peak? 1 year? Lol.

Harden has been scoring 29+ ppg for 5 straight years. Curry has one 29+ ppg season. Yeah Harden PPG is a little bit inflated b/c of the FTA...

Harden last 6 seasons for FTA- 10.2 FTA

Curry last 6 seasons for FTA- around 5 FTA

[LoneyROY7]

Yeah Harden PPG is a little bit inflated b/c of the FTA...

Harden last 6 seasons for FTA- 10.2 FTA

Curry last 6 seasons for FTA- around 5 FTA

LOL. Harden is one of the most dynamic drivers in the league. He was averaging around 20 drives per/game last time I checked this season. Curry is a shooter, he doesn't drive even remotely close to that kind of level.

[HakeemAlHilm]

The top 4 are KD, Curry, Harden and Lebron.

Also Harden gets to the line because he takes more contested shots in the paint than any other perimeter player and drives more than anyone else in the game. He's just as efficient as the rest of them.

[tpols]

Harden had 23 50+ point games during the decade.

KD, Bron, and Curry combined for 18. Postseason included.

to be fair, when Curry or KD go off, its lights out pretty quick. The dubs used to end every game before the end of the 3rd quarter.

Harden doesnt have that avalanche ability, he's like a pest constantly pricking at you.

[Turbo Slayer]

Ok Harden is a better scorer than Curry. I concede the argument.

[LoneyROY7]

Purely based on scoring talent, IMO you have to give KD the edge as the best scorer of the decade. Harden has a case based on production though.

Bron has a case for best postseason scorer of the decade.

[deathawaitu]

As much as I dislike watching Harden's play style, hard to deny that he does score a bunch of points.

However, KD is still #1 in terms of scoring. He has too many offensive tools and also doesn't rely on free throws as much as Harden

Harden at #2 Curry #3 Lebron #4

[Rysio]

I would say harden because the 50 point games but his style doesn't allow for that in the playoffs.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It's Durant. If he had the mentality of Harden or Kobe this wouldn't be a discussion.

[Turbo Slayer]

As much as I dislike watching Harden's play style, hard to deny that he does score a bunch of points.

However, KD is still #1 in terms of scoring. He has too many offensive tools and also doesn't rely on free throws as much as Harden

Harden at #2 Curry #3 Lebron #4 Why would you pick Curry over LeBron in terms of scoring???

[Turbo Slayer]

LBJ destroys Curry in the postseason. LBJ did it for much longer than Curry ever did in their respective careers...

[Stephonit]

Harden had 23 50+ point games during the decade.

KD, Bron, and Curry combined for 18. Postseason included.

Utterly useless stat when comparing to Curry. In 2016 alone Curry sat at least 18 4th quarters. Do a basketball reference search for games that year where he had >= to 12 minutes played and <= 32 minutes played in a win.

http://bkref.com/tiny/Rbyb1

An article from late January 2016 on just how dominant Curry was

It takes Steph Curry just 3 quarters to outscore 99 percent of the NBA (https://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/golden-state-warriors-steph-curry-nba-3-quarters-outscore-99-percent-012616)

[Stephonit]

LBJ destroys Curry in the postseason. LBJ did it for much longer than Curry ever did in their respective careers...

Then why is their record 3-1? Durant? Still 1-1. Where's the destruction? When James had Wade and Bosh why wasn't it like when Curry had KD? Curry also played in the Western Conference which we know has a pretty big effect since the 2017 Cavaliers set a record offensive rating mowing down the opponents in the East but then were lucky not to get swept in the finals.

[Turbo Slayer]

Then why is their record 3-1? Durant? Still 1-1. Where's the destruction? When James had Wade and Bosh why wasn't it like when Curry had KD? Curry also played in the Western Conference which we know has a pretty big effect since the 2017 Cavaliers set a record offensive rating mowing down the opponents in the East but then were lucky not to get swept in the finals. Curry simply had a better supporting cast than James and beat down the unlucky Cavs who had a poor defensive ratings in 2017 and 2018.

[Stephonit]

Curry simply had a better supporting cast than James and beat down the unlucky Cavs who had a poor defensive ratings in 2017 and 2018.

How do we know this? Curry led a team of conference first timers to a championship. The time from the moment Curry was drafted onto a rebuilding team to winning a ring was less than for LeBron. When LeBron had Wade and Bosh his teams never dominated the way the Warriors did. He's had his pick of teammates ever since and he still hasn't approached even the Warriors' 2015 regular season record which I remind you was composed of conference finals first timers and we aren't talking Clippers era Chris Paul level.

[red1]

1.a kd
1.b lebron

3. kawhi
4. kyrie
















5. curry

[Stephonit]

1.a kd
1.b lebron

3. kawhi
4. kyrie
















5. curry

You're just sore Curry is a better shooter than Ray. :oldlol:

[red1]

You're just sore Curry is a better shooter than Ray. :oldlol:

in the regular season maybe. :pimp:

[Stephonit]

in the regular season maybe. :pimp:

Didn't know he still held those playoffs and finals shooting records....

[Turbo Slayer]

How do we know this? Curry led a team of conference first timers to a championship. The time from the moment Curry was drafted onto a rebuilding team to winning a ring was less than for LeBron. When LeBron had Wade and Bosh his teams never dominated the way the Warriors did. He's had his pick of teammates ever since and he still hasn't approached even the Warriors' 2015 regular season record which I remind you was composed of conference finals first timers and we aren't talking Clippers era Chris Paul level.

Regular season dominance? Yes that goes to the Warriors no questioning that.

Postseason dominance? That goes to the Miami Heat. The Miami Heat went to 4 straight Finals while the pre KD Warriors went to 2 straight Finals...

Plus, the Heat won 2 titles while GSW won 1 title against a injured Cavs team...

[Turbo Slayer]

Then why is their record 3-1? Durant? Still 1-1. Where's the destruction? When James had Wade and Bosh why wasn't it like when Curry had KD? Curry also played in the Western Conference which we know has a pretty big effect since the 2017 Cavaliers set a record offensive rating mowing down the opponents in the East but then were lucky not to get swept in the finals. Also you are misunderstanding my point. I never asked for head to head records. You are simply shifting the topic which is dumb. I wanted data...

LeBron destroys Curry in the postseason...


LeBron went to the Playoffs at 21 years old while Curry had to got the Playoffs when he was 24.

Comparing their years in the Playoffs.

Their 1st years...

LeBron-31 points... Curry-23.4 points...

2nd year

LeBron-25 points... Curry-23 points...

3rd year

LeBron-28.2 points... Curry-28.3 points...

4th year

LeBron-35.3 points... Curry-25 points...

5th year

LeBron-29 points... Curry-28 points

6th year

LeBron-30 points... Curry-25.5 points...

7th year

LeBron-26 points... Curry-28.2 points...

Also keep in mind LeBron played in the Playoffs 13 times while Curry played 7 times.

LeBron outscored Curry 5/7 years. So evidently LeBron is the better scorer in the POs.

Also LBJ did this on more volume and better efficiency in their first 7 years........

[3ball]

KD probably has the highest ppg and efficiency in the 2010's

[Turbo Slayer]

KD probably has the highest ppg and efficiency in the 2010's KD actually has less PPG than LeBron...

KD....27 points

LBJ....27.1 points

KD and LeBron have the exactly same EFG% (.542)

LBJ TS%59.... KD TS%61

LBJ FG%50.... KD TS%49

Also LBJ did this on more FGA too...

Nonetheless, carry on....

[3ball]

KD actually has less PPG than LeBron...

KD....27 points

LBJ....27.1 points

KD and LeBron have the exactly same EFG% (.542)

LBJ TS%59.... KD TS%61

LBJ FG%50.... KD TS%49

Also LBJ did this on more FGA too...

Nonetheless, carry on....
Lebron has equal scoring in twice the time of possession???

No wonder he mostly loses on the championship level!!! And is a worse player than Durant

Lebron is infact the most inefficient player ever (ratio of stats to hold-time), so it's not surprising he's the most overrated

[Turbo Slayer]

Lebron has equal scoring in twice the time of possession???

No wonder he mostly loses on the championship level!!! And is a worse player than Durant

Lebron is infact the most inefficient player ever (ratio of stats to hold-time), so it's not surprising he's the most overrated


Lebron has equal scoring in twice the time of possession???

No wonder he mostly loses on the championship level!!! And is a worse player than Durant LeBron ball has resulted in LeBron having one of the best careers ever..


And is a worse player than Durant According to your criteria, one must win more titles as the "man" to be considered better so LBJ is better than KD in this regard.

Sorry Im using your criteria. try again....


No wonder he mostly loses on the championship level!!! Once again you dont never take context into discussions...


Lebron is infact the most inefficient player ever (ratio of stats to hold-time), so it's not surprising he's the most overrated It is universally accepted on basketball forums that LeBron is in the upper echelon of scorers alltime... so your point is rendered null...

[Stephonit]

Also you are misunderstanding my point. I never asked for head to head records. You are simply shifting the topic which is dumb. I wanted data...

LeBron destroys Curry in the postseason...

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Also keep in mind LeBron played in the Playoffs 13 times while Curry played 7 times.

LeBron outscored Curry 5/7 years. So evidently LeBron is the better scorer in the POs.

Also LBJ did this on more volume and better efficiency in their first 7 years........

A little out of date but :

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4tKUq_X4AAMeBP.jpg

https://mobile.twitter.com/YoungNBA/status/1120071174963245059?p=v

[3ball]

LeBron ball has resulted in LeBron having one of the best careers ever..

According to your criteria, one must win more titles as the "man" to be considered better so LBJ is better than KD in this regard.

Sorry Im using your criteria. try again....

Once again you dont never take context into discussions...

It is universally accepted on basketball forums that LeBron is in the upper echelon of scorers alltime... so your point is rendered null...
lebron got 6 extra Finals chances than Durant by playing in the East and stacking deck, aka forming a strong team in a conference that weak teams were routinely winning

If Durant had that many Finals chances and also had Wade instead of Westbrook, he would have more titles than Bron

Bron's "decision" simply gave him more help compared to his peers than anyone in history... For example, when Magic had Kareem/Worthy, at least the Celtics or Sixers had comparable talent... But lebron's decision put his cast way ahead of everyone and forced teams to develop better strategy to win (mavs, spurs, warriors)..

Otoh, MJ and Durant have optimal styles, so they never get beat by superior brand, only superior talent - so lebron's susceptibility to losing to better brand is a massive weakness that stems from his skill restriction to ball-domination.. the guy needs TWICE the hold-time to get stats - there's no way that can win more than MJ/KD.. or Bird/Kobe

[iamgine]

60s Wilt
70s Mcadoo
80s Jordan
90s Jordan
00s Kobe
10s Durant

[StrongLurk]

Durant
Lebron
Harden
Curry

[Mamba4Life]

Kobe Bean

[SouBeachTalents]

60s Wilt
70s Mcadoo
80s Jordan
90s Jordan
00s Kobe
10s Durant
McAddo over Kareem? idk about that

[ArbitraryWater]

60s Wilt
70s Kareem
80s Bird (Jordan for peak)
90s Jordan
00s Kobe/Dirk (but Shaq/LeBron for peak)
10s LeBron

[HakeemAlHilm]

Kareem has an argument for the GOAT scorer (and the GOAT overall, hes top 3 all time). He's definitely the best scorer of the 70s. Idk if i'd even rank McADoo over Erving, Gervin or David Thompson lmao

[Gougou]

Gonna go with Durant with this decade.

[deathawaitu]

LBJ destroys Curry in the postseason. LBJ did it for much longer than Curry ever did in their respective careers...

Unfortunately that never happened... since Curry owns LBJ in the playoffs (3-1 Record). If you want to discredit Curry and say he had more help, than we should also discredit Lebron's achievement in Miami. Historically Lebron has more help than any other superstars in history and it ain't even close

No one expected the Warriors' dynasty starting from 2015. The only thing we heard that off season was Lebron went back home, formed his super team again, and that Cavs were the favorite to win it all.

The only team that LBJ owned in the playoff was Toronto, and that is not even debatable

[Doranku]

Regular season: KD or Harden
Playoffs: Bran

[red1]

lebron got 6 extra Finals chances than Durant by playing in the East and stacking deck, aka forming a strong team in a conference that weak teams were routinely winning

If Durant had that many Finals chances and also had Wade instead of Westbrook, he would have more titles than Bron

Bron's "decision" simply gave him more help compared to his peers than anyone in history... For example, when Magic had Kareem/Worthy, at least the Celtics or Sixers had comparable talent... But lebron's decision put his cast way ahead of everyone and forced teams to develop better strategy to win (mavs, spurs, warriors)..

Otoh, MJ and Durant have optimal styles, so they never get beat by superior brand, only superior talent - so lebron's susceptibility to losing to better brand is a massive weakness that stems from his skill restriction to ball-domination.. the guy needs TWICE the hold-time to get stats - there's no way that can win more than MJ/KD.. or Bird/Kobe

you're shameless bro. I dont know how you still plug your theories - you do understand that you've been wrong about everything right? :oldlol:

[Cali Syndicate]

Durant is clearly the best scorer. His skillset is pretty elite and he's freaking 7 feet tall. Dude is seriously an a nasketball anomoly if there ever was one.

Curry's overall offensive impact is more dynamic though.

[Drygon]

Regular season dominance? Yes that goes to the Warriors no questioning that.

Postseason dominance? That goes to the Miami Heat. The Miami Heat went to 4 straight Finals while the pre KD Warriors went to 2 straight Finals...

Plus, the Heat won 2 titles while GSW won 1 title against a injured Cavs team...

And the Cavs won 1 title against an injured GSW team. So it's a wash.