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Mamba4Life
04-21-2020, 12:16 AM
Lets say refs dont bail out the Knicks in 1994 and call a foul on Pippen to clinch the series, and Bulls end up winning the championship without Jordan with Pippen as FMVP, what happens to MJs legacy?

highwhey
04-21-2020, 12:20 AM
tarnished.

it's already tarnished bc they won 55 games without him.

then this last dance doc is further tarnishing his legacy.

Bawkish
04-21-2020, 12:26 AM
that was a 2nd round exit

hows that even close to winning championship?

imdaman99
04-21-2020, 12:42 AM
Bulls won 11 less games without MJ and that is facts. Nice mental gymnastics, Scottie also benched himself at the end of a playoff game. So he got carried to a win himself by clutch Kukoc.

Bawkish
04-21-2020, 01:02 AM
Pip went "migraine" on a crucial game. NY were up 2-0

he'd rather chose to sit down in the bench

in the end, Phil chose the right play to have Kukoc take the last shot

had they missed, they were in a ditch (0-3)

"but but Pip FMVP doe"

Bawkish
04-21-2020, 01:05 AM
you can win 73 games then become a laughing stock at the end of the year

Post season is what matters

DoctorP
04-21-2020, 01:19 AM
lets say you werent grasping at straws...

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-21-2020, 03:36 AM
Bulls were gonna go down 3-0 before that Kukoc shot

If Pip had got the shot hed have bricked it like he almost always did in the clutch and thats a 5 game series at most

Also ppl that didnt watch 90s ball and were infants back then if not born still talking about the wins difference between the 93 team and 94 team:oldlol::hammerhead:

93 Bulls rotation minus MJ

Pippen
Ho Grant
Armstrong
Cartwright
Scott Williams
Paxson
Stacey King
Trent Tucker
Will Perdue

94 Bulls rotation

Pippen
Ho Grant
Armstrong
Kerr
Myers
Kukoc
Longley
Wennington
Cartwright
Jo Jo English

only 3 rotation players were getting the same burn as the team MJ was on (Pip/Grant/Armstrong). Cartwright was the only other one and he didnt play half the season and played less and less as the season went on until the Bulls chose not to re-sign him

Bronbron23
04-21-2020, 07:44 AM
Lets say refs dont bail out the Knicks in 1994 and call a foul on Pippen to clinch the series, and Bulls end up winning the championship without Jordan with Pippen as FMVP, what happens to MJs legacy?

Nothing rhey wouldn't of beat Houston anyway

Phoenix
04-21-2020, 07:56 AM
Nothing rhey wouldn't of beat Houston anyway

It's no guarantee they'd have beaten the Pacers. Everytime people make the "they were one call away" argument it's either they think that was the conference finals or that Indiana was just a minor inconvenience on their way to the finals. That Pacers squad with Smits, the Davies Boys, Derrick Mckey, Reggie Miller at the peak of his playoff heroics and Byron Scott off the bench weren't pushovers. That would have been a tough and gritty defensive battle.

JBSptfn
04-21-2020, 09:06 AM
It's no guarantee they'd have beaten the Pacers. Everytime people make the "they were one call away" argument it's either they think that was the conference finals or that Indiana was just a minor inconvenience on their way to the finals. That Pacers squad with Smits, the Davies Boys, Derrick Mckey, Reggie Miller at the peak of his playoff heroics and Byron Scott off the bench weren't pushovers. That would have been a tough and gritty defensive battle.

Good point. They almost beat Chicago with Jordan four years later.

sportjames23
04-21-2020, 10:04 AM
Lets say refs dont bail out the Knicks in 1994 and call a foul on Pippen to clinch the series, and Bulls end up winning the championship without Jordan with Pippen as FMVP, what happens to MJs legacy?

So you just assume those Bulls get past the Pacers and Rockets.

sportjames23
04-21-2020, 10:04 AM
Good point. They almost beat Chicago with Jordan four years later.

Almost don't mean shit.

guy
04-21-2020, 10:48 AM
It's no guarantee they'd have beaten the Pacers. Everytime people make the "they were one call away" argument it's either they think that was the conference finals or that Indiana was just a minor inconvenience on their way to the finals. That Pacers squad with Smits, the Davies Boys, Derrick Mckey, Reggie Miller at the peak of his playoff heroics and Byron Scott off the bench weren't pushovers. That would have been a tough and gritty defensive battle.

No guarantee they even beat the Knicks. The Knicks were in the same position the next series (down 3-2 on the road) and won.

ArbitraryWater
04-21-2020, 10:50 AM
down the pubes


team would have made the finals w/o MJ

Not a good look

Phoenix
04-21-2020, 11:38 AM
No guarantee they even beat the Knicks. The Knicks were in the same position the next series (down 3-2 on the road) and won.

That too.

Bronbron23
04-21-2020, 12:05 PM
It's no guarantee they'd have beaten the Pacers. Everytime people make the "they were one call away" argument it's either they think that was the conference finals or that Indiana was just a minor inconvenience on their way to the finals. That Pacers squad with Smits, the Davies Boys, Derrick Mckey, Reggie Miller at the peak of his playoff heroics and Byron Scott off the bench weren't pushovers. That would have been a tough and gritty defensive battle.

Yeah true the Indiana team was tough.