Should homeschooling be banned?

[Cleverness]

Harvard professor wants to ban homeschooling because it’s ‘authoritarian’ (https://nypost.com/2020/04/23/harvard-professor-wants-to-ban-authoritarian-homeschooling/)

Elizabeth Bartholet told Harvard Magazine that it gives parents “authoritarian” control over their kids — and can even expose them to white supremacy and misogyny.

“The issue is, do we think that parents should have 24/7, essentially authoritarian control over their children from ages zero to 18? I think that’s dangerous,” Bartholet said. “I think it’s always dangerous to put powerful people in charge of the powerless, and to give the powerful ones total authority.”

Harvard Law professors are quite powerful/influential. I didn't know any of them were this out of touch with reality.

I strongly disagree with her. I prefer parents in control of their own children over government control.

What do you guys think? Should homeschooling be banned?

[SouBeachTalents]

I think what they bring up is the least of the issues home schooled kids would experience. How about the fact you'd go your entire childhood and adolescence without making any friends, or even having the opportunity to learn how to socialize and interact with others. You really think someone is going to be able to function normally after being stuck in their house and only interacting with their parents for 18-21 years? I feel like with homeschooling you'd deprive your child of so many beneficial things like making friends, participating in after school sports and activities, and all the fun and memorable experiences you go through growing up. To me, being home schooled sounds like a pretty depressing existence. It'd essentially be like the last month of this pandemic x 20 years

[DoctorP]

I think what they bring up is the least of the issues home schooled kids would experience. How about the fact you'd go your entire childhood and adolescence without making any friends, or even having the opportunity to learn how to socialize and interact with others. You really think someone is going to be able to function normally after being stuck in their house and only interacting with their parents for 18-21 years? I feel like with homeschooling you'd deprive your child of so many beneficial things like making friends, participating in after school sports and activities, and all the fun and memorable experiences you go through growing up. To me, being home schooled sounds like a pretty depressing existence. It'd essentially be like the last month of this pandemic x 20 years


thats not the question, the question is whether it should be banned

[MaxFly]

No, it would be ridiculous to ban homeschooling. She does put forward a valid concern:


“We have an essentially unregulated regime in the area of homeschooling,” Bartholet asserts. All 50 states have laws that make education compulsory, and state constitutions ensure a right to education, “but if you look at the legal regime governing homeschooling, there are very few requirements that parents do anything.” Even apparent requirements such as submitting curricula, or providing evidence that teaching and learning are taking place, she says, aren’t necessarily enforced. Only about a dozen states have rules about the level of education needed by parents who homeschool, she adds. “That means, effectively, that people can homeschool who’ve never gone to school themselves, who don’t read or write themselves.” In another handful of states, parents are not required to register their children as homeschooled; they can simply keep their kids at home.

However the answer isn't to ban homeschooling. The answer is to make sure that there are basic requirements that are adhered to so that no homeschooled students are not placed at any considerable disadvantage in comparison to their public schooled and private schooled peers. Homeschooled kids generally do well because the parents who care enough about the issue to homeschool their kids tend to be motivated, have the resources, and have the time. There are parents who are abusive and who keep their kids home with a poor substitute for homeschooling in states where there is little oversight. That's unfortunate and those states should do more to make sure those kids are getting a basic education at home.

[SATAN]

I know a guy who was largely home schooled. He's one of the funniest social guys you will ever meet so I think that argument can be flawed.

[thonuc]

nope, no reason

[iamgine]

This would be like asking, should kids be banned from having any gadgets? After all, there are sexual predators and porn out there.

[aj1987]

Harvard professor wants to ban homeschooling because it’s ‘authoritarian’ (https://nypost.com/2020/04/23/harvard-professor-wants-to-ban-authoritarian-homeschooling/)

Elizabeth Bartholet told Harvard Magazine that it gives parents “authoritarian” control over their kids — and can even expose them to white supremacy and misogyny.

“The issue is, do we think that parents should have 24/7, essentially authoritarian control over their children from ages zero to 18? I think that’s dangerous,” Bartholet said. “I think it’s always dangerous to put powerful people in charge of the powerless, and to give the powerful ones total authority.”

Harvard Law professors are quite powerful/influential. I didn't know any of them were this out of touch with reality.

I strongly disagree with her. I prefer parents in control of their own children over government control.

What do you guys think? Should homeschooling be banned?
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[Jasper]

4 of my step kids (were all home schooled over a period of time)
they turned out o.k. / but social skills are not fundamentally good.

[BarberSchool]

This is America damnit.
We can pursue any damn path we want as long as it doesn’t directly harm someone else.

If you’re the MF who reads what I just typed, and wants to make a case that home schooling DOES harm others in the long term, FIGHT ME B1TCH !

In this case, Judge the MF player, not the game, you fakkits.

[ArbitraryWater]

I think what they bring up is the least of the issues home schooled kids would experience. How about the fact you'd go your entire childhood and adolescence without making any friends, or even having the opportunity to learn how to socialize and interact with others. You really think someone is going to be able to function normally after being stuck in their house and only interacting with their parents for 18-21 years? I feel like with homeschooling you'd deprive your child of so many beneficial things like making friends, participating in after school sports and activities, and all the fun and memorable experiences you go through growing up. To me, being home schooled sounds like a pretty depressing existence. It'd essentially be like the last month of this pandemic x 20 years

perfect post. very true


the prof is batshit insane like many of these feminists but i dont like homeschooling for different reasons

[ArbitraryWater]

thats not the question, the question is whether it should be banned

the question has to do with the reasons proposed, dummie

[Long Duck Dong]

My cousin's kids are being homeschooled to 8th grade. I guarantee all of them will put to shame 95% of the kids in public school their age. Not sure how much they'll stand out when they hit an affluent private high school in Aspen but if it was a regular public high school they'd be better prepared to go to college than most seniors coming in as freshman. The kids are sharp.

[tpols]

I know a guy who was largely home schooled. He's one of the funniest social guys you will ever meet so I think that argument can be flawed.

in a way it can have a reverse effect to southbeach's point.

they arent trained to behave in social order in the same way. this can make them more fearless.

[fsvr54]

She's mad some parent's don't want their kids brain's washed with liberal sjw hogwash. Anti-freedom.

Why is this even a poll? Anyone who votes yes, should be shot in the left foot.

[Hawker]

This is why people are losing trust in academia. Not some "anti-intellectual" culture.

She thinks homeschooling can indoctrinate students...like public schools don't do the same thing?

[MrFonzworth]

:roll::roll::roll:

[baudkarma]

Homeschooling should not be banned, but parents who decide to homeschool should have to take some sort of training and pass a test to show that they know basic teaching concepts. And their kids should be tested to make sure that they're actually being taught at an appropriate level. It's kind of ironic... here in Texas, before a parent can teach their kid to drive the parent has to download a guide and pass a test. Wanna teach your kid math, science, history, whatever? No testing required.

[fsvr54]

As far as socializing goes, that's on the parent.

Where are the kids' cousins? Family should be around. You should be taking young kids to parks to play with other kids and stuff like that. If you're kid comes out awkward as hell it's because the parents never put any effort into having other kids their age around. It's not rocket science.

[DoctorP]

LeBron was homeschooled and at the end of the day he says "at the end of the day" a lot.

[Derka]

There’s no educational environment that doesn’t indoctrinate kids in some way so her rationale doesn’t really make sense to me.

[NBAGOAT]

no but homeschooling could use some regulation and really depends on the parents obviously unless they hire multiple private teachers or the student is awesome at learning by himself through study. I've met smart/well-educated people who've been homeschool but overall dont quite trust someone to teach math, science, english and history well. the high school stuff can already be pretty advanced.

It's just not that many people who can teach you that many subjects well. Indoctrination ofc happens everywhere but you see it less so when you have multiple teachers who have different biases which is what you find in middle and high school. Dont want to get political but I've read Dana Loesch homeschools her kids and dont know how they have any chance