Migraine, Scottie?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWlvzIzWAAA1FMH?format=jpg&name=small

Never forget babybois

MJs sidekick/"star" 16/6/5 3to 2nd option's migraine is the reason MJ wasn't a 7 time champ and first 4peat of the modern era. Pistons would be forgotten in history as just a good, dirty team that was lucky title against an injured Lakers team

[Docs Orders]

When you have constant surges of bloodflow to organs in your body, it tends to bring on massive migraines


For Scottie were talking 2-3 liters of blood to his genitalia

[SouBeachTalents]

You can't pin that just on Pippen. That was legitimately the worst supporting cast performance in history

Pippen: 2 points on 1/10
Grant: 10 points on 3/17
Hodges: 8 points on 3/13
Cartwright: 6 points on 3/9
Armstrong: 2 points on 1/8

[Uncle Drew]

The entire Bulls team got locked down, what the **** are you on about? The Pistons were just better.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

You can't pin that just on Pippen. That was legitimately the worst supporting cast performance in history

Pippen: 2 points on 1/10
Grant: 10 points on 3/17
Hodges: 8 points on 3/13
Cartwright: 6 points on 3/9
Armstrong: 2 points on 1/8

Yeah but Scottie was the "all star" he's held to a higher standard.

Fittingly he didn't even make the team when they won the title the next season:oldlol:

[nayte]

You can't pin that just on Pippen. That was legitimately the worst supporting cast performance in history

Pippen: 2 points on 1/10
Grant: 10 points on 3/17
Hodges: 8 points on 3/13
Cartwright: 6 points on 3/9
Armstrong: 2 points on 1/8

Haha saved for relevance but true.I've never had a migraine but I've heard they are bad so can't fault pip on this one

[OrlandoMagicGuy]

Jordan would have 7 rings had not been for Pippen's migraine.

[Nikola_]

Its mind-boggling that Jordan was pippen migraine away from being 2-2 with pistons. Literally whole perception changes on that rivalry.

[ArbitraryWater]

Jordan would have 7 rings had not been for Pippen's migraine.


would have 3 rings if his teammates didnt hit out of skin shots

[FultzNationRISE]

When you have constant surges of bloodflow to organs in your body, it tends to bring on massive migraines


For Scottie were talking 2-3 liters of blood to his genitalia



Bingo.

There was so much pressure on Pip to lead the defense, he often had to make use of all three legs for extended periods of time. Which is very taxing on the blood supply. He would use his third leg to whack at the opponents shins and thighs to slow them down and trip them up. And because it was tucked within his shorts the refs had difficulty seeing it. Players used to call him “package trippin Pippen.” Not only that but he used it for balancing his lateral movement, as well as poking an opponent’s dribble away from them.

We saw Lebron suffer a similar side effect during Crampgate in the 2014 finals. Between his arms, legs, and front tail, he had five appendages working overtime and could not maintain adequate oxygen.The Spurs of course knew this was a possibility and sabotaged the air conditioning intentionally.

A third leg is a tremendous asset but it can also be an occasional liability.

[Docs Orders]

Bingo.

There was so much pressure on Pip to lead the defense, he often had to make use of all three legs for extended periods of time. Which is very taxing on the blood supply. He would use his third leg to whack at the opponents shins and thighs to slow them down and trip them up. And because it was tucked within his shorts the refs had difficulty seeing it. Players used to call him “package trippin Pippen.” Not only that but he used it for balancing his lateral movement, as well as poking an opponent’s dribble away from them.

We saw Lebron suffer a similar side effect during Crampgate in the 2014 finals. Between his arms, legs, and front tail, he had five appendages working overtime and could not maintain adequate oxygen.The Spurs of course knew this was a possibility and sabotaged the air conditioning intentionally.

A third leg is a tremendous asset but it can also be an occasional liability.

:applause::oldlol:

[Phoenix]

Its mind-boggling that Jordan was pippen migraine away from being 2-2 with pistons. Literally whole perception changes on that rivalry.

I don't know if Pippen being healthy guarantees a different result, as shown above the rest of the team didn't exactly come through. What it does suggest to me is that any of the Bulls teams from 91 onwards beats those Pistons squads.

[scuzzy]

Bingo.

There was so much pressure on Pip to lead the defense, he often had to make use of all three legs for extended periods of time. Which is very taxing on the blood supply. He would use his third leg to whack at the opponents shins and thighs to slow them down and trip them up. And because it was tucked within his shorts the refs had difficulty seeing it. Players used to call him “package trippin Pippen.” Not only that but he used it for balancing his lateral movement, as well as poking an opponent’s dribble away from them.

We saw Lebron suffer a similar side effect during Crampgate in the 2014 finals. Between his arms, legs, and front tail, he had five appendages working overtime and could not maintain adequate oxygen.The Spurs of course knew this was a possibility and sabotaged the air conditioning intentionally.

A third leg is a tremendous asset but it can also be an occasional liability.
:roll:

[warriorfan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWlvzIzWAAA1FMH?format=jpg&name=small

Never forget babybois

MJs sidekick/"star" 16/6/5 3to 2nd option's migraine is the reason MJ wasn't a 7 time champ and first 4peat of the modern era. Pistons would be forgotten in history as just a good, dirty team that was lucky title against an injured Lakers team

When Scottie was telling the story you can tell he was full of shit. “I was blind! I couldn’t see!” lol

[Overdrive]

would have 3 rings if his teammates didnt hit out of skin shots

Not sure you want to go that route.

OT: Migraine is usually reoccuring. Pippen had it once. In a crucial game. Pretty weird.

[Phoenix]

I have 'cluster' migraines every so many years and that shit is no joke. The Pippen episode sounds more like an extreme tension headache brought on by the stress of that situation. Who knows?

[Horatio33]

Pippen's father died a couple of days before the game.

[SouBeachTalents]

Pippen's father died a couple of days before the game.
Damn, his dad had him at 45, that's crazy. I've never heard of about that, surprised it's never really brought up

[3ball]

You can't pin that just on Pippen. That was legitimately the worst supporting cast performance in history

Pippen: 2 points on 1/10
Grant: 10 points on 3/17
Hodges: 8 points on 3/13
Cartwright: 6 points on 3/9
Armstrong: 2 points on 1/8

Led by Pippen

If Pip plays better that frees everything up.. even a below-average performance would've done that

Pippen missed Game 6 in 1989 too.. literally missed the game..

[97 bulls]

Pippen's father died a couple of days before the game.
People never want to acknowledge this fact. People give Jordan a pass for retiring a month before the start of the 94 season and thus sabotaging the Bulls chances of winning a 4th straight title. Something that had never been done in the modern era. And it left the Bulls in a bad position to try to find a suitable replacement.

But Pippen losing his father in the middle of the playoffs and then having to go against a team full of players who are doing things that can end your career. And thus hurt your entire family. No, Pip is supposed to overlook his personal issues.

[97 bulls]

Led by Pippen

If Pip plays better that frees everything up.. even a below-average performance would've done that

Pippen missed Game 6 in 1989 too.. literally missed the game..

Lol but this has always been your argument. MJ never needed Pip. What happened here?

[juju151111]

Lol but this has always been your argument. MJ never needed Pip. What happened here?

Mj whole team didn't play good. They were like 4-27 between pip and grant lmao wtf

[97 bulls]

Mj whole team didn't play good. They were like 4-27 between pip and grant lmao wtf

Hey I understand that in order for the Bulls to win, Jordan couldn't do it by himself. That is why they lost.

[3ball]

People never want to acknowledge this fact. People give Jordan a pass for retiring a month before the start of the 94 season and thus sabotaging the Bulls chances of winning a 4th straight title. Something that had never been done in the modern era. And it left the Bulls in a bad position to try to find a suitable replacement.

But Pippen losing his father in the middle of the playoffs and then having to go against a team full of players who are doing things that can end your career. And thus hurt your entire family. No, Pip is supposed to overlook his personal issues.


In what area did Pippen relieve MJ?



Scoring - mj had goat scoring and clutch margin over a 2nd option

Defense - mj had more dpoy votes than pippen every year

Passing - mj had equal assists

Enforcer - mj had to save (https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-07-2019/4EMYLq.gif) pip


What area???... :biggums:..

^^^ that's the definition of woat 2nd option, yet people say Pippen was "the best 2nd option MJ could've had"... Nonsense... Robinson, Shaq, Wade or Duncan were easily better.... or guys that produced at far higher levels, aka Kemp, Penny... or guys that outplayed Pippen, aka X-man, Kevin Willis... or guys that were good right away and would've won with mj from 88-90', aka Worthy, Dominique, Derrick Coleman, Grant Hill, everyone

[warriorfan]

Pippen's father died a couple of days before the game.

Never knew that. Makes a lot more sense than the mysterious migraine. The ironic part is if he is lying or exaggerating the migraine to save face...it would probably have been better received if he said his father passed less than a week before and he wasn’t in a proper place mentally. But who knows the migraine could have been real.

[LeCroix]

What is Jordena stat line this game?

[97 bulls]

Never knew that. Makes a lot more sense than the mysterious migraine. The ironic part is if he is lying or exaggerating the migraine to save face...it would probably have been better received if he said his father passed less than a week before and he wasn’t in a proper place mentally. But who knows the migraine could have been real.

His father dying was actually about a month prior to the game 7

[LeCroix]

lol but this has always been your argument. Mj never needed pip. What happened here?

ouch

[LeCroix]

In what area did Pippen relieve MJ?



Scoring - mj had goat scoring and clutch margin over a 2nd option

Defense - mj had more dpoy votes than pippen every year

Passing - mj had equal assists

Enforcer - mj had to save (https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-07-2019/4EMYLq.gif) pip


What area???... :biggums:..

^^^ that's the definition of woat 2nd option, yet people say Pippen was "the best 2nd option MJ could've had"... Nonsense... Robinson, Shaq, Wade or Duncan were easily better.... or guys that produced at far higher levels, aka Kemp, Penny... or guys that outplayed Pippen, aka X-man, Kevin Willis... or guys that were good right away and would've won with mj from 88-90', aka Worthy, Dominique, Derrick Coleman, Grant Hill, everyone

Pip didnt play here

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198906020CHI.html

Did you need him to win?

[97 bulls]

In what area did Pippen relieve MJ?



Scoring - mj had goat scoring and clutch margin over a 2nd option

Defense - mj had more dpoy votes than pippen every year

Passing - mj had equal assists

Enforcer - mj had to save (https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-07-2019/4EMYLq.gif) pip


What area???... :biggums:..

^^^ that's the definition of woat 2nd option, yet people say Pippen was "the best 2nd option MJ could've had"... Nonsense... Robinson, Shaq, Wade or Duncan were easily better.... or guys that produced at far higher levels, aka Kemp, Penny... or guys that outplayed Pippen, aka X-man, Kevin Willis... or guys that were good right away and would've won with mj from 88-90', aka Worthy, Dominique, Derrick Coleman, Grant Hill, everyone


Why do you keep asking the same questions? The answer to this has been beat to death. Even Jordan said Pip took a lot of pressure off him.

Sometime it seems that the argument isnt so much about Pippens ability or value. Its "he did play as good as Jordan so he sucks." Nobody ever has for long. Otherwise, Jordan wouldn't be considered the GOAT.

[HoopsNY]

People never want to acknowledge this fact. People give Jordan a pass for retiring a month before the start of the 94 season and thus sabotaging the Bulls chances of winning a 4th straight title. Something that had never been done in the modern era. And it left the Bulls in a bad position to try to find a suitable replacement.

But Pippen losing his father in the middle of the playoffs and then having to go against a team full of players who are doing things that can end your career. And thus hurt your entire family. No, Pip is supposed to overlook his personal issues.

This is very true.

[Roundball_Rock]

Wait, so MJ needed Pippen to win? :lol

Jordan wins; the team loses...To be fair to MJ, it is only his fans who behave that way. We saw what he said on the doc, including about the game.

[red1]

Bingo.

There was so much pressure on Pip to lead the defense, he often had to make use of all three legs for extended periods of time. Which is very taxing on the blood supply. He would use his third leg to whack at the opponents shins and thighs to slow them down and trip them up. And because it was tucked within his shorts the refs had difficulty seeing it. Players used to call him “package trippin Pippen.” Not only that but he used it for balancing his lateral movement, as well as poking an opponent’s dribble away from them.

We saw Lebron suffer a similar side effect during Crampgate in the 2014 finals. Between his arms, legs, and front tail, he had five appendages working overtime and could not maintain adequate oxygen.The Spurs of course knew this was a possibility and sabotaged the air conditioning intentionally.

A third leg is a tremendous asset but it can also be an occasional liability.

agreed 110%


brilliant analysis and breakdown of why it is absolutely selfish to blame the migraine on pippen. you should write a book on NBA history tbh - would like to see your take on madonna and pippen.

[red1]

Bingo.

There was so much pressure on Pip to lead the defense, he often had to make use of all three legs for extended periods of time. Which is very taxing on the blood supply. He would use his third leg to whack at the opponents shins and thighs to slow them down and trip them up. And because it was tucked within his shorts the refs had difficulty seeing it. Players used to call him “package trippin Pippen.” Not only that but he used it for balancing his lateral movement, as well as poking an opponent’s dribble away from them.

We saw Lebron suffer a similar side effect during Crampgate in the 2014 finals. Between his arms, legs, and front tail, he had five appendages working overtime and could not maintain adequate oxygen.The Spurs of course knew this was a possibility and sabotaged the air conditioning intentionally.

A third leg is a tremendous asset but it can also be an occasional liability.

its high IQ posts like this that bring me back to this forum time and again. very refreshing in this era of fake news and insecure documentaries. :applause:


its great to see the pippen brotherhood put 3ball in a permanent chokehold. roundball rock and 97 bulls slapping 3ball around like a vintage '89 pistons performance. :applause:

[MoneyMitch23]

Scottie with the “stress” migraine.

Jesus. He was so soft. MJ really did have to build him up mentally. If he just produced normal averages Bulls could’ve won and probably could’ve even got a chip in 1990. Kind of like LeBron underperforming you normal expectations in 2011.

1990
1994
1999

Damn near sure fire rings left on the table for Jordan’s Dynasty Bulls.

[warriorfan]

Scottie with the “stress” migraine.

Jesus. He was so soft. MJ really did have to build him up mentally. If he just produced normal averages Bulls could’ve won and probably could’ve even got a chip in 1990. Kind of like LeBron underperforming you normal expectations in 2011.

1990
1994
1999

Damn near sure fire rings left on the table for Jordan’s Dynasty Bulls.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSNno0nBxMI&app=desktop

Scottie before MJ

[Kblaze8855]

You can't pin that just on Pippen. That was legitimately the worst supporting cast performance in history

Pippen: 2 points on 1/10
Grant: 10 points on 3/17
Hodges: 8 points on 3/13
Cartwright: 6 points on 3/9
Armstrong: 2 points on 1/8


https://www.hostpic.org/images/2002260447270092.png




Both against legendary Pistons defenses in the playoffs just by chance. Early 2000s wings had it hard.

[3ball]

Why do you keep asking the same questions? The answer to this has been beat to death. Even Jordan said Pip took a lot of pressure off him.

Sometime it seems that the argument isnt so much about Pippens ability or value. Its "he did play as good as Jordan so he sucks." Nobody ever has for long. Otherwise, Jordan wouldn't be considered the GOAT.

What area?

You can't answer because Pippen didn't stick up for MJ or relieve him in any area - MJ had to carry the goat scoring load, get equal assists, more dpoy votes, and be the enforcer

That's the definition of woat 2nd option.. it's too bad he didn't have a partner like Kareem, Kobe, Magic or Shaq, to relieve MJ so MJ didn't have to carry the load

[Roundball_Rock]

So MJ stans now agree Jordan needed Pippen to win? We may be having a break through here. :lol

[3ball]

So MJ stans now agree Jordan needed Pippen to win? We may be having a break through here. :lol
Rookie Xavier McDaniel 1987 WCF vs Lakers.... 25/9/4 on 50%
Rookie Scottie Pippen... 1989 ECF vs Pistons..... 9/5/4 on 40%

^^^ so MJ would've won the 88-90' rings with rookie Xavier McDaniel over Pippen - so anyone would've been better than Pippen

[tpols]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSNno0nBxMI&app=desktop

Scottie before MJ

i cant believe pippen just laughed along that.

that was humiliating the way he slapped him.

[Roundball_Rock]

Rookie Xavier McDaniel 1987 WCF vs Lakers...

Orlando Wooldridge: 23 and 21 PPG with MJ, 25 PPG later on without MJ. What did MJ win with him?

[tpols]

https://www.hostpic.org/images/2002260447270092.png




Both against legendary Pistons defenses in the playoffs just by chance. Early 2000s wings had it hard.

now post game 7's stats.

The magic were up 3-1, and the pistons got swept by NJ in the next round. 4-0.

:biggums:

[3ball]

Orlando Wooldridge: 23 and 21 PPG with MJ, 25 PPG later on without MJ. What did MJ win with him?

Weak team defense

Give MJ an 18 ppg sidekick along with the #7 team defense and it's an auto-three-peat

Otoh, lebron lost to Dwight with the #3 defense and 18 on 38% from Mo!!!... MJ always won witg that help on both sides of the ball.. he beat the #1 SRS with the #11 defense and 15 on 40% from Pip in 89'

[97 bulls]

What area?

You can't answer because Pippen didn't stick up for MJ or relieve him in any area - MJ had to carry the goat scoring load, get equal assists, more dpoy votes, and be the enforcer

That's the definition of woat 2nd option.. it's too bad he didn't have a partner like Kareem, Kobe, Magic or Shaq, to relieve MJ so MJ didn't have to carry the load

What are you talking about? You understand that you POV is in direct contrast with the man you Jack off to every night before you lay down by yourself. Jordan said 'Pippen takes alot of pressure off me.' Go back and look at his speech in 97 after they won the Championship. This is why people call you a troll. Was Jordan lying? Do you know better than him?

[3ball]

What are you talking about? You understand that you POV is in direct contrast with the man you Jack off to every night before you lay down by yourself. Jordan said 'Pippen takes alot of pressure off me.' Go back and look at his speech in 97 after they won the Championship. This is why people call you a troll. Was Jordan lying? Do you know better than him?

What's jordan supposed to say?

He doesn't realize that he had the worst #2 ever, because he's never looked at the numbers..

But we have access to the numbers so we can be better executives than MJ is.. we all know MJ sucked as an executive and his opinion on Pippen shows that

[97 bulls]

What's jordan supposed to say?

He doesn't realize that he had the worst #2 ever, because he's never looked at the numbers..

But we have access to the numbers so we can be better executives than MJ is.. we all know MJ sucked as an executive and his opinion on Pippen shows that

When has Jordan ever bit his tongue on someone? Those teams had access to soooooo much more information than you can possibly dream of seeing.

This is ridiculous. This chump actually thinks he has more in depth analysis of the the Bulls than Jordan himself. Will we be seeing you in this documentary?

[Roundball_Rock]

When has Jordan ever bit his tongue on someone? Those teams had access to soooooo much more information than you can possibly dream of seeing.

This is ridiculous. This chump actually thinks he has more in depth analysis of the the Bulls than Jordan himself. Will we be seeing you in this documentary?

:roll: at him acting like MJ is just trying to be nice. Remember his HOF speech? He ripped basically everyone in his speech except Pippen.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

What are you talking about? You understand that you POV is in direct contrast with the man you Jack off to every night before you lay down by yourself. Jordan said 'Pippen takes alot of pressure off me.' Go back and look at his speech in 97 after they won the Championship. This is why people call you a troll. Was Jordan lying? Do you know better than him?

:roll:

3ball really brings it on himself. What a weirdo.

[3ball]

When has Jordan ever bit his tongue on someone? Those teams had access to soooooo much more information than you can possibly dream of seeing.

This is ridiculous. This chump actually thinks he has more in depth analysis of the the Bulls than Jordan himself. Will we be seeing you in this documentary?

Again, MJ doesn't realize that he had the worst #2 ever, because he's never looked at the numbers (he's a bad executive).

But we have access to the numbers so we can be better executives than MJ is.. we all know MJ sucked as an executive and his opinion on Pippen shows that

[Axe]

When you have constant surges of bloodflow to organs in your body, it tends to bring on massive migraines


For Scottie were talking 2-3 liters of blood to his genitalia
It apparently takes massive hatred for someone to say something like this.

[JBSptfn]

People never want to acknowledge this fact. People give Jordan a pass for retiring a month before the start of the 94 season and thus sabotaging the Bulls chances of winning a 4th straight title. Something that had never been done in the modern era. And it left the Bulls in a bad position to try to find a suitable replacement.

But Pippen losing his father in the middle of the playoffs and then having to go against a team full of players who are doing things that can end your career. And thus hurt your entire family. No, Pip is supposed to overlook his personal issues.

That's because MJ wasn't planning on retiring. He was told to by the league: https://www.thefixisin.net/like-mike

Here's an excerpt:


I don’t believe that the news conference called on October 6, 1993 was what it purported itself to be. There were no tears in Michael Jordan’s eyes. There was no sadness, no cracking voices. Merely a statement followed by some quick, easy to answer questions, and then “retirement.”

[RogueBorg]

Not sure you want to go that route.

OT: Migraine is usually reoccuring. Pippen had it once. In a crucial game. Pretty weird.

Exactly, the problem wasn't a migraine, the moment of a game 7 was huge and Scottie hadn't grown up yet. In the Last Dance, MJ said he'd stand with him (Pippen), just stand and fight. Pipp wouldn't fight yet. I've heard multiple Pistons player state if they could knock Scottie down they could beat the Bulls. In 1991, he had arrived.

I also don't think enough blame is given to Horace Grant. He was soft going up against Sally and Mahorn.

[Roundball_Rock]

People act like he is the only player to ever get a migraine. Kareem had them multiple times since he was 15. The only reason we keep hearing about this is to assign blame to Pippen (implying the Bulls could not win without Pippen :pimp: ) because Jordan won, the team lost.

[Mr Feeny]

Kareem was the s!ssy who would cry about a simple headache as he put up 4 points in finals game 7s.

Meanwhile, Lebron was the guy putting everything on the line and leading teams to titles in those game 7s.

[3ball]

.
1990 Pippen.... migraine cost Bulls title

1990 KJ........... goat upset over 1-seeded Lakers

Conclusion... MJ would've won with KJ instead of Pippen



Crowning achievements of various 2nd options:


Worthy...... FMVP... 30 on 64% in WCF and many other series; the scoring and clutch leader on goat team
Kareem..... FMVP... goat candidate
Dumars..... FMVP... 28 and 8 apg in 89' Finals
KJ.............. routinely led 55 win teams and dominated Magic's 1-seeded Lakers to make WCF
Kobe.......... 30 ppg sidekick to peak Shaq and clutch leader of league
Wade......... 27 ppg in 11' Finals.. great in 12' Finals too.. prime Pippen stats in 13' Finals
AD.............. 28/15/4 vs goat Warriors in 18' Playoffs
Kemp......... dominated 96' Finals vs goat defenders (Payton dominated defensively)
Stockton... #1 all-time in assists and steals.. top 3 passer all-time
Penny........ Outplayed Pippen in 95' and 96' Playoffs
Maxwell..... FMVP... but McHale frequently led Celtics in scoring with 25+ in many series


^^^ that's all better than Pippen, and Kyrie is better too:


Pippen'... won 55 games in reg season and lost in 2nd Round... 19 on 42% for Finals career, last in clutch pts
Kyrie....... won 53 games in reg season and lost in 2nd Round... 28 on 46% for Finals career, hit goat shot