FOX Sports Ranks top 25 NBA Players: #1 will shock you

[LeCroix]

25. Sir charles Barkley
24. Elgin Baylor
23. Reggie miller
22. Durantula the servant
21. Dirk
20. Stockton
19. Malone
18. Garnett
17. Wade
16. Pippen
15. Doctor J
14. jerry west
13. Admiral David Robinson
12. Kobe bean Bryant
11. Oscar Robertson
10. Hakeem
9. bird
8. Wilt
7. Russell
6. Magic
5. duncan

pause for remainder 4 left


Proof to the pudding https://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/ranking-the-25-greatest-players-in-nba-history-100716

[LAmbruh]

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[LeCroix]

pause for top 4 can be resumed for suspense


4. Shaq

wow shaq as top 4 what a great pull

and now the 3 we talk about the most

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3. Kareem

one of the best to ever do it, never stopped winning at any level high school to college to nba with so many rings and mvps to match anyone and all time scoring and long standing career with amazing peak and longevity play


2. LeBron James

the man that keeps the forum going, nothing more needs to be said

1. Michael Jordan

the voted top 1 goat. this top 3 list can be switched out but michael wins this poll note

[LeCroix]

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Consensus top 2
could be argued for top 1

that is the lowest we can go. bron bois have strong standings

[LAmbruh]

Consensus top 2
could be argued for top 1

that is the lowest we can go. bron bois have strong standings

Kobe ranked 12th

RIP mamba

the consensus strikes again :confusedshrug:

[LeCroix]

Kobe ranked 12th

RIP mamba

the consensus strikes again :confusedshrug:

i did a loud chuckle at kobe for 12 and then for pippen at 15 and wade at 16

these rank findings are great and funny

[r0drig0lac]

Duncan, Magic, Bird >>> Shaw

[MrFonzworth]

What the **** is Miller doing there?

[LeCroix]

What the **** is Miller doing there?

I did also think and wonder the same

[Mr Feeny]

I'm glad is getting the recognition he deserves. He's better than a late top 10 player. He, Jordan, and Lebron have the 3 highest peaks in the modern era and at his best, he was simply unstoppable.

Lebron is better than Kareem and I dont necessarily thinks it's even close so I'm glad we are seeing more and more lists recognize that.

Duncan might be a little high but:

Jordan
Lebron
.......
Kareem
Shaq

Seems about right.

[iamgine]

This was from 2017. It's possible some active players have moved up the ranking since then.

[LukeWalton]

#4? BR put Shaq as #9 center of all time behind Jack Sikma and D-Ho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVcAazaigiQ&t=2s

:roll:

[Axe]

No curry in this list at all lmao 😂

Someone's gonna be disappointed for sure

[Doranku]

Oscar Robertson is the most overrated player of all-time.

[imdaman99]

Shaq is not #4 please. If we are talking peaks than yes, he might be the most dominant ever but he's not #4 and Scottie top 20? :lol ok

[red1]

they must not have read 3ball's posts - top 2 are interchangeable, 1a 1b situation now.




pretty solid list otherwise.




their top-5 is nearly flawless.

[dbugz]

MJ > TD > Kobe > LeQuit

[FKAri]

Yet another list that puts Magic way over Bird. Disappointing.

[rawimpact]

I can understand a lot of those guy being above kobe - no doubt there's an argument there. But David Robinson being right next to Kobe? Seriously?

[Roundball_Rock]

I can understand a lot of those guy being above kobe - no doubt there's an argument there. But David Robinson being right next to Kobe? Seriously?

The author must prioritize stats. Robinson's stats are equal or better than Hakeem's for example. Kobe's stats are not commensurate with his reputation, especially his advanced stats. (For the record, I have Kobe top 10 and Robinson in the top 20-30 range.)

[Phoenix]

The author must prioritize stats. Robinson's stats are equal or better than Hakeem's for example. Kobe's stats are not commensurate with his reputation, especially his advanced stats. (For the record, I have Kobe top 10 and Robinson in the top 20-30 range.)

I think Robinson is too high as well, in my own rankings he's closer to #20( it's all subjective of course). But in fairness to the Admiral, he's become kind of the forgotten superstar of that generation. That mano a mano beatdown at the hands of Hakeem in 95 really did a number on the general public's perception of him ( while simultaneously boosting Hakeem's into the stratosphere). Their careers and head to heads were much closer outside of that series. Frankly, if Hakeem didn't have that two year run his ranking would probably be a hell of a lot closer. People have forgotten that at one point, Robinson was being picked to take over the league from MJ.

[Manny98]

Consensus top 2

GOAT after he wins number 4

[ArbitraryWater]

reggie miller?


YIKES

Wade at 17? YIKES

Pippen 16? YIK-ES

Stock at 20? Lol

[Phoenix]

Stock at 20? Lol

And over Dirk to boot.

[Roundball_Rock]

I think Robinson is too high as well, in my own rankings he's closer to #20( it's all subjective of course).

Agreed, I was just speculating on the rankings and Robinson being that high and Kobe that low means a big emphasis on stats may be the explanation.


But in fairness to the Admiral, he's become kind of the forgotten superstar of that generation. That mano a mano beatdown at the hands of Hakeem in 95 really did a number on the general public's perception of him ( while simultaneously boosting Hakeem's into the stratosphere). Their careers and head to heads were much closer outside of that series. Frankly, if Hakeem didn't have that two year run his ranking would probably be a hell of a lot closer. People have forgotten that at one point, Robinson was being picked to take over the league from MJ.

100% true. When both were in the league Robinson actually finished ahead of Hakeem in all-NBA more than vice versa I believe. Robinson definitely consistently was ahead of him in MVP voting. Robinson also had very good performances head-to-head against Hakeem for his career. All that was erased by the 95' WCF. To some extent this is justified: it was Robinson on his biggest stage as the #1 option and facing his rival and Robinson got crushed. However, his entire career has been defined by one particular series, a series where Hakeem had Clyde Drexler as a second option to take defensive pressure off while Robinson had only Sean Eliot.

While Robinson has become the most forgotten superstar of that era Hakeem may have become the most overrated. While he is no worse than top 12 all-time, you often see him ahead of guys like Kareem and Wilt on all-time lists. All this because people assume Hakeem at his peak was the same Hakeem the rest of his career (odd because people are able to make that distinction with Shaq, whose non-peak level was much higher than Hakeem's). I think Hakeem also is a big beneficiary of the social media and YouTube era. His clips are more conducive to going viral than Shaq dunking or Kareem sky hooking.

[Phoenix]

Agreed, I was just speculating on the rankings and Robinson being that high and Kobe that low means a big emphasis on stats may be the explanation.



100% true. When both were in the league Robinson actually finished ahead of Hakeem in all-NBA more than vice versa I believe. Robinson definitely consistently was ahead of him in MVP voting. Robinson also had very good performances head-to-head against Hakeem for his career. All that was erased by the 95' WCF. To some extent this is justified: it was Robinson on his biggest stage as the #1 option and facing his rival and Robinson got crushed. However, his entire career has been defined by one particular series, a series where Hakeem had Clyde Drexler as a second option to take defensive pressure off while Robinson had only Sean Eliot.

While Robinson has become the most forgotten superstar of that era Hakeem may have become the most overrated. While he is no worse than top 12 all-time, you often see him ahead of guys like Kareem and Wilt on all-time lists. All this because people assume Hakeem at his peak was the same Hakeem the rest of his career (odd because people are able to make that distinction with Shaq, whose non-peak level was much higher than Hakeem's). I think Hakeem also is a big beneficiary of the social media and YouTube era. His clips are more conducive to going viral than Shaq dunking or Kareem sky hooking.

Just this sequence alone gets more burn than the average Shaq/Kareem dunk or hook:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-18-2015/cQwQZM.gif

That's.....pretty much where people created this giant chasm between the two. Reality is, in the early 90's Hakeem, Admiral and Ewing perception-ally were considered on the same tier. Then you throw Shaq in there after 93. To his credit Hakeem outplayed and beat them all when it counted ( he caught Shaq while he was still ascending, in all fairness), but perhaps no other great player in the upper echelon of GOATs has their legacy bolstered so much from a 2-3 year period.

[Roundball_Rock]

Just this sequence alone gets more burn than the average Shaq/Kareem dunk or hook:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-18-2015/cQwQZM.gif


Yup--people act like it was a routine occurrence when it was the signature play of his career.


but perhaps no other great player in the upper echelon of GOATs has their legacy bolstered so much from a 2-3 year period.

Yup. The question is does that boost last or fade over time? What could hurt him is that as time elapses and nostalgia fades, or does not exist at all for newer generations, that people will rely more on player's resumes and he doesn't compare well to the players who he is around in the all-time rankings (or the reaches like Kareem).

If you took the best 2-3 years away from any top 12 players their legacy doesn't drastically change but as you and I have noted Hakeem's almost completely relies on such a short period.

[LeCroix]

Shaq is not #4 please. If we are talking peaks than yes, he might be the most dominant ever but he's not #4 and Scottie top 20? :lol ok
Well i mean Shaq does have the only modern 3 peak besides michael, and crazy finals stats (no big mens could check him during that era, note it). Also adding only 1 player of the entire game of basketball has more fmvp anyways.

As for scot pip, do we need to say it again?

No Pip...

[houston]

Oscar Robertson is the most overrated player of all-time.

yeah this true indeed

[guy]

Pretty terrible list. What the hell is Reggie doing on there?

[LeCroix]

Pretty terrible list. What the hell is Reggie doing on there?

Every list after 12 or 15 gets hairy filled. You know this

[petezahut]

I like Shaq top 5. I think he's usually underrated. 58% from the floor for a career. I understand that Shaq was one-of-a-kind, but I really don't understand why the NBA wants to move away from low-post, back-to-the-basket big men.

[Duncan21formvp]

Duncan should be higher than Lebron.

[ELITEpower23]

Darn, so only top 2