We dont talk enough about Pippen’s ‘00 WCF run with the Blazers

[FultzNationRISE]

Losing by 5 in a game 7 of the WCF against the MDE. While the East was at it’s all time worst.

That means Pip was basically 5 points away from leading a team to a chip on his own. :lebronamazed:

Considering he led the Blazers that series in:

Minutes
Rebounds
Blocks
Steals
Assists


That’s arguably more impressive than anything MJ ever did :biggums:

[Stanley Kobrick]

it's good that we discuss these things. pippen was not mentioned much in the 90's but with the last dance documentary much of his career greatness is being brought to light. i believe in todays day and age Pippen would get the media attention of someone like Paul George.

[Axe]

Interesting.

A pip-led portland team that used to have a 7th pick pg in stoudemire, future all-star in jermaine o'neal and all-star/nba champ in sheed.

[Reggie43]

Such a painful game to watch. A team filled with talented and veteran players yet nobody took it upon himself to lead the team with the season on the line. They were waiting on each other thinking someone else will take the initiative but it never came.

[tpols]

He got Kobe'ed.

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[Phoenix]

Rasheed and Steve Smith were the only Blazers who showed up that game. Shaq only had 18/9 so it's not like he was putting his stamp all over the game either.

[DoctorP]

He got Kobe'ed.

https://www.nba.com/lakers/sites/lakers/files/ezgif-2-01628e4ad5.gif

and that was a wrap for Pip.

[Nowoco]

Just Pip? No Chip.

[Rysio]

He got Kobe'ed.

https://www.nba.com/lakers/sites/lakers/files/ezgif-2-01628e4ad5.gif

This. If it wasn't for Kobe pippen would have 7 rings.

[LeCroix]

it's good that we discuss these things. pippen was not mentioned much in the 90's but with the last dance documentary much of his career greatness is being brought to light. i believe in todays day and age Pippen would get the media attention of someone like Paul George.

Bullseye!

[Roundball_Rock]

He was huge for that team, even past his prime. He led them in rebounds, assists, steals, minutes during the playoffs and was only 3 PPG from the scoring lead. He was their team leader and best defender. He led them in VORP during the season (19th in the league).

It is a shame he hurt his wrist later in Game 5 (where Pippen had a big game to stave off elimination prior to the injury). His shot was wrecked the rest of the series but before then he was having a great series.

[Vino24]

Pippen was an absolute beast

[LAL]

It is a shame he hurt his wrist later in Game 5 (where Pippen had a big game to stave off elimination prior to the injury). His shot was wrecked the rest of the series but before then he was having a great series.
Weird guy

[Norcaliblunt]

I sometimes wonder what if Jordan came back and played for that Blazers team or Sacramento instead of the Wizards.

[HoopsNY]

Weird guy

Tell me about it. Pippen had a "good" series, but I wouldn't say he had a great series, even prior to game 5. But what do you expect from someone who is desperately trying to elevate Pippen's rank beyond what it actually was.

Game 3: 5-13 (38%) 12 pts 9 rebs 6 assists, 3 turnovers
Game 4: 4-12 (33%) 11 pts 10 rebs 2 assists, 5 turnovers

[jayfan]

Losing by 5 in a game 7 of the WCF against the MDE. While the East was at it’s all time worst.

That means Pip was basically 5 points away from leading a team to a chip on his own. :lebronamazed:

Considering he led the Blazers that series in:

Minutes
Rebounds
Blocks
Steals
Assists





Still a 2nd option even without Jordan.


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[warriorfan]

We need to talk more about Wade’s 2006 Run. Where he actually won the championship. :lol

[Roundball_Rock]

Insecure MJ stans. :roll:

For those of you too young to have watched the series, what they are deliberately omitting is the Blazers were a deep team so nobody posted monster stats on the team. The series was billed as "2 deep versus too deep."

Pippen games 1-5: 17/9/4 with 3 steals and 1 block.
Wallace games 1-5: 23/8/2 with 1 steal and 0 blocks.
Smith games 1-5: 17/2/3 with 1 steal and literally 0 blocks.
Sabonis games 1-5: 8/5/1 with 1 steal and 1 block.

Factor in Pippen was their defensive anchor and their leader on top of the surface stats.

[Lebowski]

Such a painful game to watch. A team filled with talented and veteran players yet nobody took it upon himself to lead the team with the season on the line. They were waiting on each other thinking someone else will take the initiative but it never came.

Yes. It. Was. Shaw with that three at the end of the 3rd, he did not call bank, really felt like the start of it all.

Having said that, I did kind of jinx it by celebrating Lakers losing when Pippen hit that three, also at the end of the 3rd Q. My bad..

[Overdrive]

Loved Pippen, but I was glad they lost. He had 6 already and my fav player had none by that point. That season was a throwback as he really didn't gel with the Rockets, but that G7 Meltdown was also on him. That 4th quarter was atrocious by anyonebut Sheed, who kept them in.

Also that team was great and I think they might win alot of other years. Imo that team was better than the last 2 champs before them and yes Pippen was the leader. Very balanced still. They even had a poor man's Pippen coming off the bench.

[Doranku]

He got Kobe'ed.

https://www.nba.com/lakers/sites/lakers/files/ezgif-2-01628e4ad5.gif


Damn near got crossed out the frame. :lol

[HoopsNY]

Insecure MJ stans. :roll:

For those of you too young to have watched the series, what they are deliberately omitting is the Blazers were a deep team so nobody posted monster stats on the team. The series was billed as "2 deep versus too deep."

Pippen games 1-5: 17/9/4 with 3 steals and 1 block.
Wallace games 1-5: 23/8/2 with 1 steal and 0 blocks.
Smith games 1-5: 17/2/3 with 1 steal and literally 0 blocks.
Sabonis games 1-5: 8/5/1 with 1 steal and 1 block.

Factor in Pippen was their defensive anchor and their leader on top of the surface stats.

Anyone who refutes your logic with facts is an MJ stan? Sorry but Pippen didn't have a great series, even prior to game 6.

[Drygon]

Tell me about it. Pippen had a "good" series, but I wouldn't say he had a great series, even prior to game 5. But what do you expect from someone who is desperately trying to elevate Pippen's rank beyond what it actually was.

Game 3: 5-13 (38%) 12 pts 9 rebs 6 assists, 3 turnovers
Game 4: 4-12 (33%) 11 pts 10 rebs 2 assists, 5 turnovers

It's embarrassing how Pippen is overrated as the time passes.

[TheMan]

Anyone who refutes your logic with facts is an MJ stan? Sorry but Pippen didn't have a great series, even prior to game 6.

To that idiot, anyone who disagrees with his opinions is an MJ stan.

[Ronin45]

Massive choke job with that utterly stacked Portland team, that had the kind of overrated 2000 Lakers team on the ropes. But couldn't close out. Because well, Scottie isn't an alpha. Or a leader. Or a great scorer. Or a great shot creator. Or a great playmaker. Portland should've won that series. Same way the Heat should've easily won the 2011 Finals.

[Axe]

Anyone who refutes your logic with facts is an MJ stan? Sorry but Pippen didn't have a great series, even prior to game 6.
Is it just me or is he as retarded as 3ball? And he seems to take so much pride whenever he enjoys calling these mj stans insecure.

[Roundball_Rock]

To that idiot, anyone who disagrees with his opinions is an MJ stan.

It is merely coincidental that 90% of Pippen haters are insecure MJ stans.

[Axe]

The very same insecure mj stans who made a certain kaj stan feel butthurt and miserable.

[Round Mound]

Pippen was not a great playmaker? :facepalm He was the best "playmaking" Forward of the 90's and the best "defensive" Forward of the 90's aswell. He was great at everything but being an alpha scorer or shooter. Every other skill he was top notch!

[MoneyMitch23]

Pippen was not a great playmaker? :facepalm He was the best "playmaking" Forward of the 90's and the best "defensive" Forward of the 90's aswell. He was great at everything but being an alpha scorer or shooter. Every other skill he was top notch!
Actually that was Grant Hill.

[Round Mound]

Actually that was Grant Hill.

Grant Hill was a better scorer thats about it. Pippen has lower stats because he played within a system that was benefitial for team not individual stats.

[Axe]

Grant Hill was a better scorer thats about it. Pippen has lower stats because he played within a system that was benefitial for team not individual stats.
So he's somewhat like bill russell in a way. A team player.

[MoneyMitch23]

Grant Hill was a better scorer thats about it. Pippen has lower stats because he played within a system that was benefitial for team not individual stats.
No, G-Hill was a better playmaker pure and simple because making plays for himself counts just as much as making it for teammates. Particularly in half court sets. He scored, and assisted better.

21 ppg, 7 apg >>> 19 ppg, 6 apg

Facts.

That's while being the focus of the defense, and not playing OFF OF a play / game finisher like the best player ever, Michael Jordan.

[Round Mound]

No, G-Hill was a better playmaker pure and simple because making plays for himself counts just as much as making it for teammates. Particularly in half court sets. He scored, and assisted better.

21 ppg, 7 apg >>> 19 ppg, 6 apg

Facts.

That's while being the focus of the defense, and not playing OFF OF a play / game finisher like the best player ever, Michael Jordan.

You maybe right offensively. I always say its hard to see who was better between Grant Hill or Scottie Pippen who where both the best SFs of the 90s. I find it sad that Grant Hill got injured in his prime so we would never see how good he would have been if he did not get injured. I rank Grant Hill Offensively better than Pippen but Pippen was better Defensively. Had Pippen would have been a 1st option more often he would have averaged similar numbers as the 93-94 season.

[Roundball_Rock]

Pippen was not a great playmaker? :facepalm He was the best "playmaking" Forward of the 90's and the best "defensive" Forward of the 90's aswell. He was great at everything but being an alpha scorer or shooter. Every other skill he was top notch!

Keep in mind "Money Mitch 23" is Samurai Swish, who has now been banned twice. He just isn't man enough to do the time for the crime.


21 ppg, 7 apg >>> 19 ppg, 6 apg


Pippen was 20/7/6 in his prime but that extra point and extra assist (outside the triangle, which deflates assists) makes all the difference.

What you never hear about Hill is he never got past the first round as a star. It is easier to rack up stats on trash teams.

[Axe]

It is easier to rack up stats on trash teams.
Which was something lebron did in the past.

[Round Mound]

Keep in mind "Money Mitch 23" is Samurai Swish, who has now been banned twice. He just isn't man enough to do the time for the crime.



Pippen was 20/7/6 in his prime but that extra point and extra assist (outside the triangle, which deflates assists) makes all the difference.

What you never hear about Hill is he never got past the first round as a star. It is easier to rack up stats on trash teams.

Lets not forget the 2.5 or 3.0 SPG and almost a 1.0 BPG just to add to his 1 on 1 defense...also a great team defender

[warriorfan]

Lets not forget the 2.5 or 3.0 SPG and almost a 1.0 BPG just to add to his 1 on 1 defense...also a great team defender

Imagine if Charles could play defense half as good as that....He would have 3 or 4 titles.

[Roundball_Rock]

Lets not forget the 2.5 or 3.0 SPG and almost a 1.0 BPG just to add to his 1 on 1 defense...also a great team defender

Yeah people forget the blocks. He provided some solid secondary rim protection as a SF.

Simmons on his podcast yesterday said Pippen>Kawhi on defense and that Pippen, Kawhi, MJ are the only players he has watched live who seemed to have the ability to steal the ball at will. They will rip Simmons but keep in mind Simmons loves MJ.

[tpols]

This. If it wasn't for Kobe pippen would have 7 rings.

imagine getting your ass kicked everyday in practice guarding MJ, having your name be synonymous with "2nd option", and then you finally get your own team and are a hair away from an alpha ring that wouldve totally shifted everybody's perception of you... only to be J'ed by Jordan's clone in the 4th quarter of a game 7.

:lol

Portland had a 15 point lead in the 4th quarter!

That was a huge choke and highlighted the one negative about scottie pippen's skillset. He couldnt close games offensively.

[DoctorP]

imagine getting your ass kicked everyday in practice guarding MJ, and then you finally get your own team and are a hair away from an alpha ring that wouldve totally shifted everybody's perception of you... only to be J'ed by MJ's clone in the 4th quarter of a game 7.

:lol

clone of MJ > old Pip

MJ genes are strong

:lol

[RogueBorg]

He got Kobe'ed.

https://www.nba.com/lakers/sites/lakers/files/ezgif-2-01628e4ad5.gif

Geez, Kobe almost completely removes Pip out of the field of view.

[Axe]

imagine getting your ass kicked everyday in practice guarding MJ, having your name be synonymous with "2nd option", and then you finally get your own team and are a hair away from an alpha ring that wouldve totally shifted everybody's perception of you... only to be J'ed by Jordan's clone in the 4th quarter of a game 7.

:lol

Portland had a 15 point lead in the 4th quarter!

That was a huge choke and highlighted the one negative about scottie pippen's skillset. He couldnt close games offensively.
For a moment, i actually thought that game was only rigged in favor of the lakers.

[PeteVecseySwag]

imagine getting your ass kicked everyday in practice guarding MJ, having your name be synonymous with "2nd option", and then you finally get your own team and are a hair away from an alpha ring that wouldve totally shifted everybody's perception of you... only to be J'ed by Jordan's clone in the 4th quarter of a game 7.

:lol

Portland had a 15 point lead in the 4th quarter!

That was a huge choke and highlighted the one negative about scottie pippen's skillset. He couldnt close games offensively.
:biggums:

I never remotely thought of it like that, wow. Also, just goes to show who Scottie truly was, even on a roster that talented, in the position they were in.

:roll: :roll: :roll:


Damn near got crossed out the frame. :lol
:oldlol: got Mamba-ed

[ClipperRevival]

Pip's Blazer days are a detriment to his legacy, not a boost. LOL.

That 1999-00 Blazer team is one of THE most deepest teams EVER and anyone saying otherwise is flat out lying. They literally had 2 staring lineups.

Sheed
Pippen
Steve Smith
Stoudamire
Sabonis

Schrempf
Grant
Anthony
Wells
O'Neal

The fact that a supposed all-time great couldn't win a chip with that much talent saids a lot. Not to mention, that serious choke job in game 7.

[DoctorP]

Geez, Kobe almost completely removes Pip out of the field of view.

it's so flagrant and such a burn

:roll:


:oldlol:

[tpols]

it's made even worse by the fact pippen was still a great defender. he led them in every metric and was the clear floor general.

FroBe crossed him so bad his visage was removed from the screen like a ****in magic trick. :lol

[Axe]

Pip's Blazer days are a detriment to his legacy, not a boost. LOL.

That 1999-00 Blazer team is one of THE most deepest teams EVER and anyone saying otherwise is flat out lying. They literally had 2 staring lineups.

Sheed
Pippen
Steve Smith
Stoudamire
Sabonis

Schrempf
Grant
Anthony
Wells
O'Neal

The fact that a supposed all-time great couldn't win a chip with that much talent saids a lot. Not to mention, that serious choke job in game 7.
And it seems that some people here thought only pip was the one carrying the blazers by himself alone. 🥴

[DoctorP]

it's made even worse by the fact pippen was still a great defender. he led them in every metric and was the clear floor general.

FroBe crossed him so bad his visage was removed from the screen like a ****in magic trick. :lol

thats how good Kobe was. That was some Iverson-like speed. Pip was done though.

[ClipperRevival]

And it seems that some people here thought only pip was the one carrying the blazers by himself alone. ��

Bran stans do so much goal post moving these days, it's funny. Like how they always sh*t on Curry and how overrated he is but when it comes to discussing Bran, they boost that 2016 Warriors team as the GOAT team. Which is it? :yaohappy:

[Smoke117]

Why do you even have the name Clippersrevival. I’ve never seen you talk about the Clippers even once. All you do is get on your hands and knees for MJ. This is an obvious 3ballalt account and you aren’t fooling anybody.

[Roundball_Rock]

Why do you even the name Clippersrevival. I’ve never seen you talk about the Clippers even once. All you do is get on your hands for MJ. This is an obvious 3ball altaccount..

Yup...

[MoneyMitch23]

Yup...
Says the guy pretending to be a 90s fan with Roundball_Rock as a username.

Consistently throws agenda driven vitriol shade at Jordan. Pretends to be a Pippen fan and is clearly a LeBron Stan.

And is replying to the guy named Smokee117 but is only and always drunk. From LA but is a Pippen / D-Rob / Ray Allen / Wade stan.

[Axe]

Says the guy pretending to be a 90s fan with Roundball_Rock as a username.

Consistently throws agenda driven vitriol shade at Jordan. Pretends to be a Pippen fan and is clearly a LeBron Stan.

And is replying to the guy named Smokee117 but is only and always drunk. From LA but is a Pippen / D-Rob / Ray Allen / Wade stan.
That Roundball freak is actually a kaj stan.

[3ball]

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Pippen 2000 WCF

15/9/4 on 42.5%


So he was aids, and this cost the Blazers the series

You hacks will never convince an intelligent person that 15/9/4 on 42% is "good", and didn't cost Portland the series.

Oh, and his defense was garbage - he was on the wrong side of the goat poster

[Roundball_Rock]

Says the guy pretending to be a 90s fan with Roundball_Rock as a username.

Consistently throws agenda driven vitriol shade at Jordan. Pretends to be a Pippen fan and is clearly a LeBron Stan.

And is replying to the guy named Smokee117 but is only and always drunk. From LA but is a Pippen / D-Rob / Ray Allen / Wade stan.

Remember when your small mind "knew" I was a closet Kobe stan? :lol You said it for YEARS. Now it is LeBron stan. Minutes ago I was called a KAJ stan. Which is it?

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

[Carbine]

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Pippen 2000 WCF

15/9/4 on 42.5%


So he was aids, and this cost the Blazers the series

You hacks will never convince an intelligent person that 15/9/4 on 42% is "good", and didn't cost Portland the series.

Oh, and his defense was garbage - he was on the wrong side of the goat poster

Yeah, even someone mentioned this would have been an alpha ring for Pippen.

Not even close. It would have been a collective effort ring. I really don't know how anyone could say had Pippen won a ring that year that it would be on the level of any of Jordans rings, or Kawhi last year as examples of what an alpha ring looks like

[LeCroix]

Remember when your small mind "knew" I was a closet Kobe stan? :lol You said it for YEARS. Now it is LeBron stan. Minutes ago I was called a KAJ stan. Which is it?

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

:roll: :roll:

[LeCroix]

Pippen's Blazers 4-1 Malone Stockton Jazz in WCSF.

Also 3-1 KG's Timberwolves in 2000

[3ball]

Yeah, even someone mentioned this would have been an alpha ring for Pippen.

Not even close. It would have been a collective effort ring. I really don't know how anyone could say had Pippen won a ring that year that it would be on the level of any of Jordans rings, or Kawhi last year as examples of what an alpha ring looks like

You're just a goat hater

And it's sad because you don't even use good arguments against Mike.. you mostly play defense in your posts.. you don't know how to effectively chip away at his skills and resume

Oh well... It just means more domination for 3ball and MJ stan's... And MJ

[LeCroix]

Pippen's Blazers 4-1 Malone Stockton Jazz in WCSF.

Also 3-1 KG's Timberwolves in 2000

[Carbine]

What

[Roundball_Rock]

Pippen's Blazers 4-1 Malone Stockton Jazz in WCSF.

Also 3-1 KG's Timberwolves in 2000

He had the game/series winner against Utah too. :pimp:

[nayte]

Roundball has to be daheezy right. The way he constantly complains about Jordan stans and if u disagree you're a Stan.it's the same thing he used to do on that account.Can't blame him for not using that account anymore after his Photoshop fail.

[Roundball_Rock]

Roundball has to be daheezy right. The way he constantly complains about Jordan stans and if u disagree you're a Stan.it's the same thing he used to do on that account.Can't blame him for not using that account anymore after his Photoshop fail.

What other account? I have always had one account. What photo-shop? The non-stop lies from "mostly" MJ stans (happy?).

Yes, the people who are always talking MJ in MJ threads (or Pippen and saying he sucks in Pippen threads) don't tend to be MJ stans. Thanks for the insight.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Roundball has to be daheezy right. The way he constantly complains about Jordan stans and if u disagree you're a Stan.it's the same thing he used to do on that account.Can't blame him for not using that account anymore after his Photoshop fail.

Wait, thats rockball?! Cheezy!!! :roll:

[JBSptfn]

Massive choke job with that utterly stacked Portland team, that had the kind of overrated 2000 Lakers team on the ropes. But couldn't close out. Because well, Scottie isn't an alpha. Or a leader. Or a great scorer. Or a great shot creator. Or a great playmaker. Portland should've won that series. Same way the Heat should've easily won the 2011 Finals.

The Blazers really didn't have any alphas. That team had no heart. After their collapse and first-round exit in 2001, Whitsitt should have been fired, and they should have started rebuilding (within the parameters of the salary cap).

[ImKobe]

That Portland team had 5 All-Star caliber players in their starting 5 and their bench was really good for a 99-00 team as well with Schrempf, Greg Anthony, Jermaine O'Neal & Bonzi Wells. Loaded roster. They could have done more with that team, but they never gave O'Neal a shot & traded everyone else as well, Smh.