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dreamshake
05-09-2020, 11:30 PM
Another day, another white male wearing an offensive mask. Murica!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8303263/amp/Couple-wear-masks-SWASTIKAS-grocery-shopping-California.html

bladefd
05-10-2020, 01:38 AM
Just two morons advertising their ignorance. I hope they had a grand time.

HylianNightmare
05-10-2020, 04:32 PM
What a ****

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 06:27 PM
What a ****


Why?

He identifies as a Nazi. So what?

The Communist party in Russia murdered millions, and the Dems almost elected a communist as their candidate.

Muslims have slaughtered countless people in conquest, Catholics have a similar history, Hindus subjugated millions through the cast system. We still invite all these people to America as immigrants.

The Holocaust was not the mission statement of Naziism, and most people in the Nazi party never killed a single person. It’s just a political party which espouses socialism like Cuba does and nationalism like Israel does. So what?

Is there a reason you equate every Nazi as an enormously offensive social “deplorable” but dont hold ANY other group to a similar standard and castigate every one of its members, even those whove never hurt a fly? Why can people belong to other groups with a destructive history and you call that tolerance, but nobody may be a nazi?

People dont understand how mindlessly conditioned they are on this topic. “Hating nazis” is a knee jerk reaction thats been woven into you like an animal taught to growl at trespassers. It’s a conditioned instinct, not a carefully thought out decision.

Like how the pigs on animal farm taught the dogs to root out all dissenters and bark at them and chomp their ass. The dogs didnt have a thought in their head. They were just propagandized to hate the enemy of their master.



But hey... you do you. :confusedshrug:

DoctorP
05-10-2020, 07:09 PM
https://cdn.jpg.wtf/futurico/7a/e5/1589133492-7ae5fc49341f3783b85649cb7dc95486.gif

HylianNightmare
05-10-2020, 07:16 PM
Why?

He identifies as a Nazi. So what?

The Communist party in Russia murdered millions, and the Dems almost elected a communist as their candidate.

Muslims have slaughtered countless people in conquest, Catholics have a similar history, Hindus subjugated millions through the cast system. We still invite all these people to America as immigrants.

The Holocaust was not the mission statement of Naziism, and most people in the Nazi party never killed a single person. It’s just a political party which espouses socialism like Cuba does and nationalism like Israel does. So what?

Is there a reason you equate every Nazi as an enormously offensive social “deplorable” but dont hold ANY other group to a similar standard and castigate every one of its members, even those whove never hurt a fly? Why can people belong to other groups with a destructive history and you call that tolerance, but nobody may be a nazi?

People dont understand how mindlessly conditioned they are on this topic. “Hating nazis” is a knee jerk reaction thats been woven into you like an animal taught to growl at trespassers. It’s a conditioned instinct, not a carefully thought out decision.

Like how the pigs on animal farm taught the dogs to root out all dissenters and bark at them and chomp their ass. The dogs didnt have a thought in their head. They were just propagandized to hate the enemy of their master.



But hey... you do you. :confusedshrug:


We were peacefully protesting all the crazy lockdown rules that have been and are continuing to be enforced here in San Diego, California,' the 32-year-old said

That's more what i was referring to. Dude sounds like a soft cuck that wanted some attention.

red1
05-10-2020, 07:17 PM
OP you dont have to highlight their race you could just say two unemployed unattractive idiots wore masks a grocery store

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 07:19 PM
That's more what i was referring to. Dude sounds like a soft cuck that wanted some attention.


True that.

I was mainly using your post as an excuse to make that general point, which I believe is valid and illustrative of the general hive mindedness of society.

I dont know anything about the actual guy in the news story ofc and people can think whatever they want about him personally.

DoctorP
05-10-2020, 07:20 PM
would be more newsworthy if a black woman and blackmail wore the Nazi masks

Long Duck Dong
05-10-2020, 07:21 PM
Am I the only one curious as to why the one guy named here goes by the name of "Dusty Shekel" on social media? It's a Semetic last name but he's wearing a Nazi facemask. :biggums:

DoctorP
05-10-2020, 07:21 PM
Am I the only one curious as to why the one guy named here goes by the name of "Dusty Shekel" on social media? It's a Semetic last name but he's wearing a Nazi facemask. :biggums:

hitler was a jew

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 07:21 PM
Am I the only one curious as to why the one guy named here goes by the name of "Dusty Shekel" on social media? It's a Semetic last name but he's wearing a Nazi facemask. :biggums:

:lol


Legitimately not sure if srs

Long Duck Dong
05-10-2020, 07:22 PM
hitler was a jew

True but you can't tell most Nazis that. :oldlol:

Or at least they won't listen

DoctorP
05-10-2020, 07:23 PM
True but you can't tell most Nazis that. :oldlol:

Or at least they won't listen

i dont know any Nazis.

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 07:23 PM
hitler was a jew

I think that's mainly an urban legend that gets repeated a lot because of the massive degree of irony.

He was definitely a nancy boy though. Probably closeted and repressed. Might have even had a microp3nis.

Long Duck Dong
05-10-2020, 07:24 PM
:lol


Legitimately not sure if srs

Does "Dusty Shekel" mean something? Thought about that before I posted my curiosity over it.

DoctorP
05-10-2020, 07:24 PM
I think that's mainly an urban legend that gets repeated a lot because of the massive degree of irony.

He was definitely a nancy boy though. Probably closeted and repressed. Might have even had a microp3nis.

no dumbass. you having a brain is an urban legend

red1
05-10-2020, 07:24 PM
Am I the only one curious as to why the one guy named here goes by the name of "Dusty Shekel" on social media? It's a Semetic last name but he's wearing a Nazi facemask. :biggums:

of course you'd be this dumb. :oldlol:

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 07:27 PM
Does "Dusty Shekel" mean something? Thought about that before I posted my curiosity over it.

The shekel is the currency of Israel.

It's an old, old currency in the Middle East, traditionally printed as a coin. The traditional caricature of the cheap jew often involves them hording shekels.

"Dusty" presumably implies something has been set aside, saved, never spent or used.

It's actually a pretty lulzy name for an antisemitic social media handle.

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 07:29 PM
no dumbass. you having a brain is an urban legend


You're definitely a nancy boy. Probably closeted and repressed. Might even have a microp3nis.

Long Duck Dong
05-10-2020, 07:30 PM
"Dusty" presumably implies something has been set aside, saved, never spent or used.

I assumed he chose "Dusty" because it says his biological name is Dustin

Long Duck Dong
05-10-2020, 07:33 PM
of course you'd be this dumb. :oldlol:

Ok explain it. It says his biological name is Dustin so I get the "Dusty" part. What's the obvious punchline of the "Shekel" part? :confusedshrug:

DoctorP
05-10-2020, 07:34 PM
You're definitely a nancy boy. Probably closeted and repressed. Might even have a microp3nis.

hitler was a jew is what im saying. dumbass how do you not know that? "urban legend" :lol

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 07:35 PM
I assumed he chose "Dusty" because it says his biological name is Dustin


Yeah but the double entrendre is still intentional I would have to imagine.

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 07:36 PM
hitler was a jew is what im saying. dumbass how do you not know that? "urban legend" :lol

So why couldnt he get into art school?

Why didnt he use his jewish connections instead of blaming jews for it? :lol

DoctorP
05-10-2020, 07:37 PM
So why couldnt he get into art school?

Why didnt he use his jewish connections instead of blaming jews for it? :lol

:lol

he sucked that bad. once youre banned by the jews you have to kill em in a holocaust to have any historical relevance apparently :lol

dude wanted revenge. psycho killa

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 07:38 PM
:lol

he sucked that bad. once youre banned by the jews you have to kill em in a holocaust to have any historical relevance apparently :lol


:lol lol ok :lol youre a :lol total retard haha :lol

DoctorP
05-10-2020, 07:39 PM
this ad sponsored by hyundai

https://i.imgur.com/I1gCocd.png

red1
05-10-2020, 07:41 PM
Ok explain it. It says his biological name is Dustin so I get the "Dusty" part. What's the obvious punchline of the "Shekel" part? :confusedshrug:

born yesterday? its a loser wearing a mask with a swastika and a shekel is a hebrew term related to currency that's been around since the beginning of recorded history. what do you think his username is getting at.



you dont know what a stereotype or a shekel is?

Norcaliblunt
05-10-2020, 07:41 PM
Santee is known to be a white boy nazi stronghold.

DoctorP
05-10-2020, 07:42 PM
:lol lol ok :lol youre a :lol total retard haha :lol

just facts

cold.hard.facts...

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 07:45 PM
just facts

cold.hard.facts...



How hard?


:crazysam:

red1
05-10-2020, 07:46 PM
How hard?


:crazysam:

:oldlol:

DoctorP
05-10-2020, 07:49 PM
How hard?


:crazysam:

https://i.imgur.com/ZVGMKsQ.gif

https://cdn.lowgif.com/small/cb0a1dde2f92fd88-tumblr-o0i8mwn4yf1smx361o1-400-gif-320-383-pixels-random-shiz.gif

Long Duck Dong
05-10-2020, 08:53 PM
you dont know what a stereotype or a shekel is?

Nope just sounded like a Jewish last name to me. Got the Dusty part since his name was Dustin. Don't speak Hebrew or run in racist circles, so it was lost on me....which is why I ASKED why he named himself that.

RRR3
05-10-2020, 09:02 PM
Why?

He identifies as a Nazi. So what?

The Communist party in Russia murdered millions, and the Dems almost elected a communist as their candidate.

Muslims have slaughtered countless people in conquest, Catholics have a similar history, Hindus subjugated millions through the cast system. We still invite all these people to America as immigrants.

The Holocaust was not the mission statement of Naziism, and most people in the Nazi party never killed a single person. It’s just a political party which espouses socialism like Cuba does and nationalism like Israel does. So what?

Is there a reason you equate every Nazi as an enormously offensive social “deplorable” but dont hold ANY other group to a similar standard and castigate every one of its members, even those whove never hurt a fly? Why can people belong to other groups with a destructive history and you call that tolerance, but nobody may be a nazi?

People dont understand how mindlessly conditioned they are on this topic. “Hating nazis” is a knee jerk reaction thats been woven into you like an animal taught to growl at trespassers. It’s a conditioned instinct, not a carefully thought out decision.

Like how the pigs on animal farm taught the dogs to root out all dissenters and bark at them and chomp their ass. The dogs didnt have a thought in their head. They were just propagandized to hate the enemy of their master.



But hey... you do you. :confusedshrug:
Literally defending Nazis :roll:

Poor Starface


Here comes another insane rant.

red1
05-10-2020, 09:05 PM
Nope just sounded like a Jewish last name to me. Got the Dusty part since his name was Dustin. Don't speak Hebrew or run in racist circles, so it was lost on me....which is why I ASKED why he named himself that.
this is what you posted dude:


Am I the only one curious as to why the one guy named here goes by the name of "Dusty Shekel" on social media? It's a Semetic last name but he's wearing a Nazi facemask. :biggums:

yeah. so...


https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYSlg9eQOpRxVLi/giphy.gif







yeah. you are the only one wondering. its really obvious dude. :oldlol:

Norcaliblunt
05-10-2020, 09:59 PM
https://youtu.be/0jSVwZ8w3C4


This scene is profound in so many ways. You could say Michael Douglas’s character represents the Trump mentality. A conservative white male feeling like he is losing his place in society while longing for the good old days of America which has passed him by. But where he is different than your average 2020 Trumpeter is when he is confronted by a Nazi. He doesn’t defend the Nazi. He vehemently disowns and denounces any connection between himself and the Nazi.

“I’m an American and you’re a sick asshole.”

RRR3
05-10-2020, 10:02 PM
https://youtu.be/0jSVwZ8w3C4


This scene is profound in so many ways. You could say Michael Douglas’s character represents the Trump mentality. A conservative white male feeling like he is losing his place in society while longing for the good old days of America which has passed him by. But where he is different than your average 2020 Trumpeter is when he is confronted by a Nazi. He doesn’t defend the Nazi. He vehemently disowns and denounces any connection between himself and the Nazi.

“I’m an American and you’re a sick asshole.”
The complete opposite of what starface would have done.

Norcaliblunt
05-10-2020, 10:10 PM
The complete opposite of what starface would have done.

Exactly

And Trump could have done the same thing after Charlottesville. But he didn’t.

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 10:20 PM
https://youtu.be/0jSVwZ8w3C4


This scene is profound in so many ways. You could say Michael Douglas’s character represents the Trump mentality. A conservative white male feeling like he is losing his place in society while longing for the good old days of America which has passed him by. But where he is different than your average 2020 Trumpeter is when he is confronted by a Nazi. He doesn’t defend the Nazi. He vehemently disowns and denounces any connection between himself and the Nazi.

“I’m an American and you’re a sick asshole.”[/B]


So Trump voters are the ones perpetually complaining they arent getting a “fair share?”

I could have sworn that was the well known and overriding message of bernie’s campaign.

Are you sure you arent projecting?

Norcaliblunt
05-10-2020, 10:22 PM
So Trump voters are the ones perpetually complaining they arent getting a “fair share?”

I could have sworn that was the well known and overriding message of bernie’s campaign.

Are you sure you arent projecting?

Have you watched Falling Down?

Patrick Chewing
05-10-2020, 10:27 PM
Exactly

And Trump could have done the same thing after Charlottesville. But he didn’t.


Were you expecting Trump to act out the scene from a movie or something??


Trump condemned the violence and stated that there is no place for hatred or bigotry in this country.


https://youtu.be/00RAteYexNA


Took me a few seconds to find that on YouTube. Some of you guys should try it.

RRR3
05-10-2020, 10:35 PM
Have you watched Falling Down?
He prefers Birth of a Nation.

Norcaliblunt
05-10-2020, 10:35 PM
Were you expecting Trump to act out the scene from a movie or something??


Trump condemned the violence and stated that there is no place for hatred or bigotry in this country.


https://youtu.be/00RAteYexNA


Took me a few seconds to find that on YouTube. Some of you guys should try it.

Yeah I expected a little more contempt than a teleprompter read. But hey thanks for the clip. I’ll give him a smidgen of credit for that.

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 10:36 PM
Exactly

And Trump could have done the same thing after Charlottesville. But he didn’t.


Bro, I’m half jewish.

I am however, first and foremost, a philosophisizer.

Which means asking the right questions and seeking answers in a logical method. Even if the answer makes narrow-minded and insecure turds uncomfortable. Even if it puts me at odds with mainstream society. Ive gotta be me, ya dig?

You, on the other hand, are a generic, emotional, insecure, partisan beta. I mean have the decency to be honest here. This isnt an ad hominem or anything. I know youre a beta, you know youre a beta. Dont insult the intelligence of the people reading this by arguing otherwise.

You dont have the confidence to challenge social norms, because you havent got the substance to back it up. Youre only safe within a crowd of thousands of shrieking protesters, all saying the politically correct thing. That’s your role. You havent chosen that role because it is intrinsically right or righteous. It’s where you stand and what youre capable of. Nothing more.

“Nazis are teh bad, but everyone else good, I cant explain why but TV told me so!!!”

You havent said a single word of analysis, just beating a stereotype drum that nazis are bad and not-nazis are good. Four legs good, two legs bad. Youre an animal. Youre a bleeting sheep.

I mean... that’s it. Youre just another generic nincompoop, which is what makes up most of the world. You dont have it. It hurts, because you wanna have it, but you dont. Hey, Id like to throw a superbowl winning touchdown, but I dont have that. You dont have this.

You are the easily trained and conditioned mass moron, and that’s it.

That’s it.

Norcaliblunt
05-10-2020, 10:40 PM
Bro, I’m half jewish.

I am however, first and foremost, a philosophisizer.

Which means asking the right questions and seeking answers in a logical method. Even if the answer makes narrow-minded and insecure turds uncomfortable. Even if it puts me at odds with mainstream society. Ive gotta be me, ya dig?

You, on the other hand, are a generic, emotional, insecure, partisan beta. I mean have the decency to be honest here. This isnt an ad hominem or anything. I know youre a beta, you know youre a beta. Dont insult the intelligence of the people reading this by arguing otherwise.

You dont have the confidence to challenge social norms, because you havent got the substance to back it up. Youre only safe within a crowd of thousands of shrieking protesters, all saying the politically correct thing. That’s your role. You havent chosen that role because it is intrinsically right or righteous. It’s where you stand and what youre capable of. Nothing more.

“Nazis are teh bad, but everyone else good, I cant explain why but TV told me so!!!”

You havent said a single word of analysis, iust beating a stereotype drum that nazis are bad and not nazis are good. Four legs good, two legs bad. Youre an animal. Youre a bleeting sheep.

I mean... that’s it. Youre just another generic nincompoop, which is what makes up most of the world. You dont have it. It hurts, because you wanna have it, but you dont. Hey, Id like to throw a superbowl winning touchdown, but I dont have that. You dont have this.

You are the easily trained and conditioned mass moron, and that’s it.

That’s it.

Everything you post is I, me, I, me, I, I, my, me I, my, I, I I I.

Well you know what? I did not read. Lol.

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 10:42 PM
Everything you post is I, me, I, me, I, I, my, me I, my, I, I I I.

Well you know what? I did not read. Lol.



You should admit your situation. There would be more dignity in it.

Norcaliblunt
05-10-2020, 10:45 PM
You should admit your situation.

That I’m your daddy.

Naw there ain’t no dignity in that.

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 10:46 PM
That I’m your daddy.

Naw there ain’t no dignity in that.


Can you link me to another Hollywood movie that will teach me right from wrong?

RRR3
05-10-2020, 10:49 PM
Is FultzNationREICH really asking us to explain to him why Nazis are bad?

Phong
05-10-2020, 10:57 PM
Literally defending Nazis :roll:
I don't see a defense of Nazism in his post. He's asking why other ideologies, that have killed as many or more, have not been vilified as much if at all.

Are you willing to explain why you have such a strong penchant for Socialism/ Communism despite the fact that it has oppressed and killed way more people (not including deaths from poverty) than Nazism did?

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 11:02 PM
I see tr333nny boy is spamming shit posts, altho I cant see them bc he’s on my ignore list.

But he’s really the utter archetype of what Im talking about.

This is a guy who is so committed to proving his allegiance to a political faction, he bragged to a group of guys on a message board that he was tolerant enough to have sex with a dude who identifies as a woman.

People have done some desperate, desperate things in history to prove they belong. That is right up there with any of them. And he did it to prive he belongs to a cult created by financial puppeteers, solely for the sake of exploiting him. And he proudly boasts and advertises himself as a member of SJW culture, while wondering why a subservient puppet and sheep like himself cant get anywhere financially :lol .

He cant say an intelligent word about anything. But he has something he belongs to. That’s all that matters to him.

Which is his right, and the inevitable choice for many. But the irony of bots like him attacking someone like me for what I think... It’s really the ultimate irony of life and the perpetual trope of history.

FultzNationRISE
05-10-2020, 11:07 PM
I don't see a defense of Nazism in his post. He's asking why other ideologies, that have killed as many or more, have not been vilified as much if at all.

Are you willing to explain why you have such a strong penchant for Socialism/ Communism despite the fact that it has oppressed and killed way more people (not including deaths from poverty) than Nazism did?


His explanation will be “youre a racist defending nazis.”


And then he’ll lie in bed later trying to figure out why he’s a virgin.

Phong
05-10-2020, 11:34 PM
His explanation will be “youre a racist defending nazis.”Ask him to write an argument to support his views and just like that he vanishes into thin air. Poof!!

https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/poof_usual_suspects.gif

Too bad though, I'd like to hear why he loves an ideology that has destroyed my country and many others.

Long Duck Dong
05-11-2020, 01:16 AM
this is what you posted dude:



yeah. so...

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYSlg9eQOpRxVLi/giphy.gif

yeah. you are the only one wondering. its really obvious dude. :oldlol:

So I'm the only one here who doesn't know what a "Shekel" is? Hmm ok. I doubt that but...ok. FultzNationRISE pointed it out first, but you had a to be a straight dick about it. Thanks.

Got some really good work related news via text while I was typing this out. :rockon:

DoctorP
05-11-2020, 09:04 AM
Ask him to write an argument to support his views and just like that he vanishes into thin air. Poof!!

https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/poof_usual_suspects.gif

Too bad though, I'd like to hear why he loves an ideology that has destroyed my country and many others.

what ideology was that and what country? Id like to chime in in support of socialism!

ArbitraryWater
05-11-2020, 10:38 AM
Can you link me to another Hollywood movie that will teach me right from wrong?

Lol

RRR3
05-11-2020, 04:03 PM
I don't see a defense of Nazism in his post. He's asking why other ideologies, that have killed as many or more, have not been vilified as much if at all.

Are you willing to explain why you have such a strong penchant for Socialism/ Communism despite the fact that it has oppressed and killed way more people (not including deaths from poverty) than Nazism did?
Is the stated goal of socialism or communism to exterminate entire groups of people for their differences? No?

Then shut up, nazi apologist.

Patrick Chewing
05-11-2020, 04:07 PM
Is the stated goal of socialism or communism to exterminate entire groups of people for their differences? No?

Then shut up, nazi apologist.


More people have died under Communism and Socialism than any other "ism".

rawimpact
05-11-2020, 04:12 PM
Is the stated goal of socialism or communism to exterminate entire groups of people for their differences? No?

Then shut up, nazi apologist.

What a piss poor argument

So your argument is: defending the freedom of speech and giving a voice to those with different (including racist) views, we become Nazi apologists?

Hawker
05-11-2020, 04:37 PM
Is the stated goal of socialism or communism to exterminate entire groups of people for their differences? No?

Then shut up, nazi apologist.

Intentions aren't the only thing that matter. Actions do.

For your government to exist, there must be no dissent which requires extermination.

RRR3
05-11-2020, 04:38 PM
I see tr333nny boy is spamming shit posts, altho I cant see them bc he’s on my ignore list.

But he’s really the utter archetype of what Im talking about.

This is a guy who is so committed to proving his allegiance to a political faction, he bragged to a group of guys on a message board that he was tolerant enough to have sex with a dude who identifies as a woman.

People have done some desperate, desperate things in history to prove they belong. That is right up there with any of them. And he did it to prive he belongs to a cult created by financial puppeteers, solely for the sake of exploiting him. And he proudly boasts and advertises himself as a member of SJW culture, while wondering why a subservient puppet and sheep like himself cant get anywhere financially :lol .

He cant say an intelligent word about anything. But he has something he belongs to. That’s all that matters to him.

Which is his right, and the inevitable choice for many. But the irony of bots like him attacking someone like me for what I think... It’s really the ultimate irony of life and the perpetual trope of history.
Quite a meltdown over posts you supposedly can't see.

RRR3
05-11-2020, 04:40 PM
What a piss poor argument

So your argument is: defending the freedom of speech and giving a voice to those with different (including racist) views, we become Nazi apologists?
That wasn't what he said. You guys have trouble with reading comprehension.

Phong
05-11-2020, 04:40 PM
Is the stated goal of socialism or communism to exterminate entire groups of people for their differences? No? You are seriously a dumb ****.

What do you call the systematic extermination of the intelligentsia, bourgeoisie, land owners and property seizures in Russia, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, etc..?

Even yourself, you called for the guillotine (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?479024-Trump-removes-independent-watchdog-for-coronavirus-funds&p=13961945&viewfull=1#post13961945) against people you don't like.

".. but if I say it's for the common good, it's fine if I kill millions who disagree with me" :oldlol:




Then shut up, nazi apologist.I don't condone what Nazis did. Why do you condone what Socialism/Communism did?

RRR3
05-11-2020, 04:43 PM
Intentions aren't the only thing that matter. Actions do.

For your government to exist, there must be no dissent which requires extermination.
This is like saying Christianity or Islam are automatically bad because millions of people have died in the name of these religions. If you're willing to do that, I'll accept that you're at least consistent. Otherwise, you're picking and choosing when to get outraged. Nazism is literally the idea that the Aryan is superior and other races should be subjugated and eventually exterminated. Even if you think Communism never works with humans, you should at least be able to see the difference between someone who thinks a communist system might work as opposed to someone literally advocating for the extermination of multiple groups of innocent humans.

Phong
05-11-2020, 04:46 PM
Intentions aren't the only thing that matter. Actions do.

For your government to exist, there must be no dissent which requires extermination.:applause: :applause: :applause:

RRR3
05-11-2020, 04:48 PM
You are seriously a dumb ****.

What do you call the systematic extermination of the intelligentsia, bourgeoisie, land owners and property seizures in Russia, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, etc..?

Even yourself, you called for the guillotine (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?479024-Trump-removes-independent-watchdog-for-coronavirus-funds&p=13961945&viewfull=1#post13961945) against people you don't like.

".. but if I say it's for the common good, it's fine if I kill millions who disagree with me" :oldlol:


I don't condone what Nazis did. Why do you condone what Socialism/Communism did?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
Communism (from Latin communis, "common, universal")[1][2] is a philosophical, social, political, economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of a communist society, namely a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money[3][4] and the state.[5][6]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
Nazism subscribed to pseudo-scientific theories of racial hierarchy[7] and Social Darwinism, identifying the Germans as a part of what the Nazis regarded as an Aryan or Nordic master race.[8] It aimed to overcome social divisions and create a German homogeneous society based on racial purity which represented a people's community (Volksgemeinschaft). The Nazis aimed to unite all Germans living in historically German territory, as well as gain additional lands for German expansion under the doctrine of Lebensraum and exclude those who they deemed either community aliens or "inferior" races.



It's you who's the dumbass here. I don't condone the atrocities committed in those countries, and I'm not even a communist anyways. But if you think the idea of Communism is to brutally slaughter millions you're mistaken. That is the idea of Nazism, though. Like I said to Hawker, countless people have been slaughtered in the name of Christianity and Islam. Are those evil ideologies too, or do people simply pervert them? Meanwhile, you'd have an extremely difficult time arguing Nazism isn't an evil ideology, unless you yourself are a Nazi, which would be pretty ironic.

I wouldn't actually guillotine Trump if it were in my power to do so btw. Sorry that triggered you so badly. I know how much you love him.

FultzNationRISE
05-11-2020, 04:56 PM
Soycuck3, the least intelligent and masculine guy on the board, naturally relies the most on the suppression of other views.

He needs to keep his ideology on top because it’s the only ideology that assigns virtue and praise to groveling submissive losers, which is his natural disposition.

He knows under any other system of merit or traditional masculine values, his worth to society drops off a cliff.

He clings to leftism, selfishly, in a desperate grasp for social relevance.

rawimpact
05-11-2020, 05:01 PM
Soycuck3, the least intelligent and masculine guy on the board, naturally relies the most on the suppression of other views.

He needs to keep his ideology on top because it’s the only ideology that assigns virtue and praise to groveling submissive losers, which is his natural disposition.

He knows under any other system of merit or traditional masculine values, his worth to society drops off a cliff.

He clings to leftism, selfishly, in a desperate grasp for social relevance.

Exactly

The other thread that was made about a week ago regarding the worst poster here. RRR3 is a prime example of someone who has the cognitive capacity to formulate a response with logic, but somehow he fails to connect the dots.

Phong
05-11-2020, 05:03 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
Communism (from Latin communis, "common, universal")[1][2] is a philosophical, social, political, economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of a communist society, namely a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money[3][4] and the state.[5][6]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
Nazism subscribed to pseudo-scientific theories of racial hierarchy[7] and Social Darwinism, identifying the Germans as a part of what the Nazis regarded as an Aryan or Nordic master race.[8] It aimed to overcome social divisions and create a German homogeneous society based on racial purity which represented a people's community (Volksgemeinschaft). The Nazis aimed to unite all Germans living in historically German territory, as well as gain additional lands for German expansion under the doctrine of Lebensraum and exclude those who they deemed either community aliens or "inferior" races.



It's you who's the dumbass here. I don't condone the atrocities committed in those countries, and I'm not even a communist anyways. But if you think the idea of Communism is to brutally slaughter millions you're mistaken. That is the idea of Nazism, though. Like I said to Hawker, countless people have been slaughtered in the name of Christianity and Islam. Are those evil ideologies too, or do people simply pervert them? Meanwhile, you'd have an extremely difficult time arguing Nazism isn't an evil ideology, unless you yourself are a Nazi, which would be pretty ironic.

I wouldn't actually guillotine Trump if it were in my power to do so btw. Sorry that triggered you so badly. I know how much you love him.Again with the typical moronic excuse that socialism/communism are good but it's those who tried them who didn't do it right.

The very first step in those ideologies is to forcefully seize people's property. :facepalm

"Oopsss.. we didn't mean to kill millions of people.. that wasn't our goal"

RRR3
05-11-2020, 05:10 PM
Again with the typical moronic excuse that socialism/communism are good but it's those who tried them who didn't do it right.

The very first step in those ideologies is to forcefully seize people's property. :facepalm
I see you're doing the typical Fox News viewer thing of conflating communism and socialism. You can own private property in Socialist nations. The idea of communism is that everyone is equal and no one owns more than anyone else. Obviously, when you add human beings into that equation, it can turn into a situation in which one person or one group of people owns pretty much everything, which is obviously bad. But again, there is a difference between thinking a thriving Communist society can exist and being pro Nazism. I know very well that you are aware of that, because you cowardly refused to address my corresponding point about religion.

RRR3
05-11-2020, 05:11 PM
Soycuck3, the least intelligent and masculine guy on the board, naturally relies the most on the suppression of other views.

He needs to keep his ideology on top because it’s the only ideology that assigns virtue and praise to groveling submissive losers, which is his natural disposition.

He knows under any other system of merit or traditional masculine values, his worth to society drops off a cliff.

He clings to leftism, selfishly, in a desperate grasp for social relevance.
Bro, you're literally a Nazi apologist who has made about twenty accounts on here, the vast majority of which are you going on unhinged rants about how unfair the world is to you and your fellow poor conservative white males.

Hawker
05-11-2020, 05:12 PM
This is like saying Christianity or Islam are automatically bad because millions of people have died in the name of these religions. If you're willing to do that, I'll accept that you're at least consistent. Otherwise, you're picking and choosing when to get outraged. Nazism is literally the idea that the Aryan is superior and other races should be subjugated and eventually exterminated. Even if you think Communism never works with humans, you should at least be able to see the difference between someone who thinks a communist system might work as opposed to someone literally advocating for the extermination of multiple groups of innocent humans.

If communism never works with humans, why wouldn't that person be ridiculed for being an idiot? The extermination of dissent requires communism to work so it's on the same level as nazism to me.

Communism has never been used for good and there's been no evolution of communism that has resulted in a good society. Christianity definitely has and western governments that have a majority christian population also have freedom of religion. Islamic countries aren't really at that level yet. The most "progressive" still have sects of sharia law.

FultzNationRISE
05-11-2020, 05:13 PM
Again with the typical moronic excuse that socialism/communism are good but it's those who tried them who didn't do it right.

The very first step in those ideologies is to forcefully seize people's property. :facepalm


Moreover, the Holocaust WAS NOT ever part of the Nazi party mission statement. Of course Hitler blamed and hated Jews, but the initial intention was to relocate them outside of German territories. As the war went on and the Germans were stretched thin, he realized they didnt have the resources to do such a thing, and as it became clearer Germany was destined to lose the war, Hitler basically began gassing jews en masse out of spite.

To implicate everyone who wore a Nazi pendant with Hitler’s genocidal inclination is no different than implicating Bernie in the actions of Stalin, or Aziz Ansari in the actions of every suicide bomber. It’s a stereotype and an outlet for condescension and tribalism.

If soycuck3 wants to do that, it’s his prerogative. But he then becomes the antithesis of everything he claims to stand for.

And thus it becomes obvious he has never actually thought about any of his own values in a remotely logical fashion. He’s simply a salmon swimming in whatever direction the school of salmon go. Four legs good, two legs bad.

He’s not sure what it means exactly, because that kind of comprehension is above him, but he knows he gets a treat when he screams it.

And so he screams.

Hawker
05-11-2020, 05:13 PM
Bro, you're literally a Nazi apologist who has made about twenty accounts on here, the vast majority of which are you going on unhinged rants about how unfair the world is to you and your fellow poor conservative white males.

Your failings at life aren't due to conservative white males existing.

Patrick Chewing
05-11-2020, 05:17 PM
I see you're doing the typical Fox News viewer thing of conflating communism and socialism. You can own private property in Socialist nations. The idea of communism is that everyone is equal and no one owns more than anyone else. Obviously, when you add human beings into that equation, it can turn into a situation in which one person or one group of people owns pretty much everything, which is obviously bad. But again, there is a difference between thinking a thriving Communist society can exist and being pro Nazism. I know very well that you are aware of that, because you cowardly refused to address my corresponding point about religion.


Stupidest idea ever. We are equal in flesh and bone, but we are not equal in work ethic, education, mindset, and drive. Communism is the lazy man's preferred type of government so that they are not faced with the realities that they face every day in a Capitalist society where they are surrounded by people who work harder and make more money than them.

RRR3
05-11-2020, 05:19 PM
Stupidest idea ever. We are equal in flesh and bone, but we are not equal in work ethic, education, mindset, and drive. Communism is the lazy man's preferred type of government so that they are not faced with the realities that they face every day in a Capitalist society where they are surrounded by people who work harder and make more money than them.
I'm not a communist :confusedshrug:

I don't think we have any communists on ISH, in fact.

Norcaliblunt
05-11-2020, 05:21 PM
What kind of ism do we live under right now in America?

RRR3
05-11-2020, 05:21 PM
Your failings at life aren't due to conservative white males existing.
I never said they were though. Conservative white males (I include many Democrats in this btw) are responsible for many people's suffering though. I come from a wealthy enough family in which that isn't the case (additionally, even though I am mixed I look pretty damn white), so I'm lucky.

RRR3
05-11-2020, 05:22 PM
Moreover, the Holocaust WAS NOT ever part of the Nazi party mission statement. Of course Hitler blamed and hated Jews, but the initial intention was to relocate them outside of German territories. As the war went on and the Germans were stretched thin, he realized they didnt have the resources to do such a thing, and as it became clearer Germany was destined to lose the war, Hitler basically began gassing jews en masse out of spite.

To implicate everyone who wore a Nazi pendant with Hitler’s genocidal inclination is no different than implicating Bernie in the actions of Stalin, or Aziz Ansari in the actions of every suicide bomber. It’s a stereotype and an outlet for condescension and tribalism.

If soycuck3 wants to do that, it’s his prerogative. But he then becomes the antithesis of everything he claims to stand for.

And thus it becomes obvious he has never actually thought about any of his own values in a remotely logical fashion. He’s simply a salmon swimming in whatever direction the school of salmon go. Four legs good, two legs bad.

He’s not sure what it means exactly, because that kind of comprehension is above him, but he knows he gets a treat when he screams it.

And so he screams.
How do you still not realize Bernie isn't a communist? Are you retarded?

FultzNationRISE
05-11-2020, 05:26 PM
Everyone clowning on soycuck3 :oldlol:

He’s hoping if he starts opening fire with loud accusations of “youre racisssssssstt!!!!!!!!!” the other soycucks will hear that shit like the bat signal and come to back him up :roll:

On some monkey in the jungle shit. Screeching out his “youre racist” call to signal for help from the other SJWs.


Guy DEFINES the modern loser.

He should be exhibited in a museum tbh

Phong
05-11-2020, 05:27 PM
How do you still not realize Bernie isn't a communist? Are you retarded? Bernie is not even a socialist or democratic socialist. He's a social democrat who wants to use the money generated by capitalism.

Norcaliblunt
05-11-2020, 05:29 PM
Bernie is not even a socialist or democratic socialist. He's a social democrat who wants to use the money generated by capitalism.

That begs the question, what are we living under right now?

RRR3
05-11-2020, 05:31 PM
Bernie is not even a socialist or democratic socialist. He's a social democrat who wants to use the money generated by capitalism.
Tell that to your friend FultzNationReich :confusedshrug:

RRR3
05-11-2020, 05:32 PM
Everyone clowning on soycuck3 :oldlol:

He’s hoping if he starts opening fire with loud accusations of “youre racisssssssstt!!!!!!!!!” the other soycucks will hear that shit like the bat signal and come to back him up :roll:

On some monkey in the jungle shit. Screeching out his “youre racist” call to signal for help from the other SJWs.


Guy DEFINES the modern loser.

He should be exhibited in a museum tbh
You literally defend Nazis.

On some straight Charlottesville shit.

https://thisisreno.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Peter-Cvjetanovic.jpg

FultzNationRISE
05-11-2020, 05:34 PM
That begs the question, what are we living under right now?


Why dont we ask Judd Apatow?

Facepalm
05-12-2020, 12:00 AM
The complete opposite of what starface would have done.

Chris is actually the looney bald guy

diamenz
05-12-2020, 12:29 AM
i gotta say... i stand with rrr3 here - i'd date a transgender too.

edit: oops, wrong thread.

RRR3
05-12-2020, 09:05 AM
Chris is actually the looney bald guy
:roll:

MaxFly
05-12-2020, 07:06 PM
The Holocaust was not the mission statement of Naziism, and most people in the Nazi party never killed a single person. It’s just a political party which espouses socialism like Cuba does and nationalism like Israel does. So what?

Is there a reason you equate every Nazi as an enormously offensive social “deplorable” but dont hold ANY other group to a similar standard and castigate every one of its members, even those whove never hurt a fly? Why can people belong to other groups with a destructive history and you call that tolerance, but nobody may be a nazi?

Wow... quoted for posterity.

So the Final Solution was what, exactly?

Patrick Chewing
05-12-2020, 07:47 PM
Wow... quoted for posterity.

So the Final Solution was what, exactly?


Excellent reply. Really well thought out.

Now need a huge favor bro, can you please open and opine on the thread titled, “DOJ Drops Case Against Michael Flynn”. Thanks!

FultzNationRISE
05-12-2020, 09:48 PM
Wow... quoted for posterity.

So the Final Solution was what, exactly?


If Im not mistaken it was to return control of ‘German lands’ to German people.

Same as Israel is doing right now.

Im not saying it’s right or wrong and I’m certainly not a Nazi considering Im not a socialist and I have no problem with a multi ethnic America - SO LONG AS we remain committed to freedom, which leftists are not, because tolerance and guilt are such fashionable rites of passage for the community college freshman level thinker, that we allow the govt to go to silly extremes in their name to the detriment of our long term health as a country.

Genocide was not what people were turning out to Hitler’s rallies over. Show me evidence otherwise. Naziism is a political philosophy, not a criminal distinction.

Youre a conditioned animal, bred to recoil from the term ‘Nazi’ but to applaud any number of other group identities with similarly dubious pasts.

Animal level intellect.

DoctorP
05-12-2020, 09:54 PM
If Im not mistaken it was to return control of ‘German lands’ to German people.

Same as Israel is doing right now.

Im not saying it’s right or wrong and I’m certainly not a Nazi considering Im not a socialist and I have no problem with a multi ethnic America - SO LONG AS we remain committed to freedom, which leftists are not, because tolerance and guilt are such fashionable rites of passage for the community college freshman level thinker, that we allow the govt to go to silly extremes in their name to the detriment of our long term health as a country.

Genocide was not what people were turning out to Hitler’s rallies over. Show me evidence otherwise. Naziism is a political philosophy, not a criminal distinction.

Youre a conditioned animal, bred to recoil from the term ‘Nazi’ but to applaud any number of other group identities with similarly dubious pasts.

Animal level intellect.

Not sure animals can recognize a swastika but thanks for playing

FultzNationRISE
05-12-2020, 09:57 PM
Not sure animals can recognize a swastika but thanks for playing

Yeah Im pretty sure you could condition a chimp to see a swastika and flinch, through negative reinforcement techniques.

Even tho the chimp has no clue what the symbol means or why it should be fearful.

You can condition them to do it.

Just like with humans.

DoctorP
05-12-2020, 09:58 PM
Yeah Im pretty sure you could condition a chimp to see a swastika and flinch, through negative reinforcement techniques.

Even tho the chimp has no clue what the symbol means or why it should be fearful.

You can condition them to do it.

Just like with low tier humans.

:lol

FultzNationRISE
05-12-2020, 10:00 PM
:lol


:oldlol:

dreamshake
05-12-2020, 10:10 PM
Let's all address the white elephant in the room.

White people have taken a major L the past two weeks. First the KKK mask guy, now the Nazi mask couple. This pandemic has given Caucasians an excuse to express their true colors.

RRR3
05-12-2020, 10:12 PM
If Im not mistaken it was to return control of ‘German lands’ to German people.

Same as Israel is doing right now.

Im not saying it’s right or wrong and I’m certainly not a Nazi considering Im not a socialist and I have no problem with a multi ethnic America - SO LONG AS we remain committed to freedom, which leftists are not, because tolerance and guilt are such fashionable rites of passage for the community college freshman level thinker, that we allow the govt to go to silly extremes in their name to the detriment of our long term health as a country.

Genocide was not what people were turning out to Hitler’s rallies over. Show me evidence otherwise. Naziism is a political philosophy, not a criminal distinction.

Youre a conditioned animal, bred to recoil from the term ‘Nazi’ but to applaud any number of other group identities with similarly dubious pasts.

Animal level intellect.
Why do you keep confusing leftists with liberals? Not the same thing. Your arrogance is pretty funny considering you can't even get your terminology correct.

Norcaliblunt
05-12-2020, 10:17 PM
The only person here who has a knee jerk reaction conditioned response to everything is this Fultz fella. Lol.

RRR3
05-12-2020, 10:19 PM
The only person here who has a knee jerk reaction conditioned response to everything is this Fultz fella. Lol.
I see you've been here since 2007, so you probably remember him by his original account, Starface. He invariably gets banned for being a racist troll, so he's had many other accounts like FourthTenor, Tito Beasley, JaggerCommaMick and Akrazotile.

Norcaliblunt
05-12-2020, 10:21 PM
I see you've been here since 2007, so you probably remember him by his original account, Starface. He invariably gets banned for being a racist troll, so he's had many other accounts like FourthTenor, Tito Beasley, JaggerCommaMick and Akrazotile.

I know who his punk ass is. Some bitch who thought he was gonna come to Hollywood and become famous. Big LOL.

RRR3
05-12-2020, 10:24 PM
I know who his punk ass is. Some bitch who thought he was gonna come to Hollywood and become famous. Big LOL.
Hard to make the connections necessary to succeed in hollywood when you're a belligerent racist like our friend Starface is.

Norcaliblunt
05-12-2020, 10:29 PM
Hard to make the connections necessary to succeed in hollywood when you're a belligerent racist like our friend Starface is.

He’s just a bitch plain and simple.

Phong
05-12-2020, 11:10 PM
If Im not mistaken it was to return control of ‘German lands’ to German people.
Yes and the reunification of all German-speaking people under one self-sufficient nation; nation which had the right to conquer more lands due to the superiority of the Aryan race.

MaxFly and R3tard are dumbasses to mention the Final Solution as evidence of the Nazi ideology. It wasn't until late 1941 that the Nazi started to systematically exterminate jews despite Hitler being in power since 1933. Prior to that, the plan was to make their lives difficult, limit them to ghettos, push them to voluntarily leave or deport them out of Germany. Alas, as Germany conquered more lands, they ran into more and more jews, packed them in labors camps and eventually decided to exterminate them. It came as a practical solution to their current problem.

It's no different from Socialist policies of killing people to seize the means of production. It wasn't written down in the ideology but it's an inherent step that needs to be taken to advance it.

FultzNationRISE
05-13-2020, 12:30 AM
I know who his punk ass is. Some bitch who thought he was gonna come to Hollywood and become famous. Big LOL.


Hey.

That’s still on the menu.


;)

bladefd
05-13-2020, 02:19 AM
Yes and the reunification of all German-speaking people under one self-sufficient nation; nation which had the right to conquer more lands due to the superiority of the Aryan race.

MaxFly and R3tard are dumbasses to mention the Final Solution as evidence of the Nazi ideology. It wasn't until late 1941 that the Nazi started to systematically exterminate jews despite Hitler being in power since 1933. Prior to that, the plan was to make their lives difficult, limit them to ghettos, push them to voluntarily leave or deport them out of Germany. Alas, as Germany conquered more lands, they ran into more and more jews, packed them in labors camps and eventually decided to exterminate them. It came as a practical solution to their current problem.

It's no different from Socialist policies of killing people to seize the means of production. It wasn't written down in the ideology but it's an inherent step that needs to be taken to advance it.

Regardless of when the decision was made, think about how twisted someone would have to be to conclude "Let's exterminate them" and have the entire leadership fall into place. Why celebrate an ideology created and lead by such twisted group of people starting at the head Honcho Hitler?

As for the ideology itself of reclaiming Germany..
>>Let's reclaim our wealth and land
>>Let's also exterminate Jews, poles, gypsies, homosexuals, and disabled

Do you not see a major disconnect between those two goals? The 2nd goal was not ever something considered a part of Germany pre-Nazi era. Regardless, looking at it today, how could anyone in their right mind take up that ideology as their own if they were not twisted as well?

The water has long sailed underneath the Nazi ideology. It is a failed ideology not worthy of respect. Good riddance 7 decades ago.

FultzNationRISE
05-13-2020, 02:55 AM
Regardless of when the decision was made, think about how twisted someone would have to be to conclude "Let's exterminate them" and have the entire leadership fall into place. Why celebrate an ideology created and lead by such twisted group of people starting at the head Honcho Hitler?

As for the ideology itself of reclaiming Germany..
>>Let's reclaim our wealth and land
>>Let's also exterminate Jews, poles, gypsies, homosexuals, and disabled

Do you not see a major disconnect between those two goals? The 2nd goal was not ever something considered a part of Germany pre-Nazi era. Regardless, looking at it today, how could anyone in their right mind take up that ideology as their own if they were not twisted as well?

The water has long sailed underneath the Nazi ideology. It is a failed ideology not worthy of respect. Good riddance 7 decades ago.


It’s perfectly fine for you to feel that way.

The point is that is YOUR opinion. If you are entitled to judge, discriminate, stereotype and condemn people with ideologies YOU disagree with, then you have no room to wax righteous when someone else condemns gay pride, feminism, islam, scientology, capitalism, socialism, judaism, taoism, creationism, whatever.

You dont get to say things like:

“Your fear is just ignorance.”

Or

“Everyone deserves an equal voice”

Or

“There is no place for hatred.”



Because if thats not what YOU practice, toward all people... Then youre a fraud.

And you dont get to make exceptions for yourself because “but but but but I know my opinion is righter, I should decide which is okay!!!”

Youre either tolerant. Or bigoted.

Take your pick.

Phong
05-13-2020, 03:05 AM
Who's saying that Nazism is an ideology to be celebrated or respected. The conversation went over your head. You're proving Fultz point. You've been conditioned like a Pavlovian dog to react a certain way when the word Nazi is mentioned. It's like you guys can't comprehend what you read and just lose your marbles.

Fultz asked why those, who hate Nazism so much, don't seem to hate other ideologies that were as bad and killed way more people? You don't have to choose, you can hate all of them but somehow you don't. He also asks why you guys foam at the mouth when a random guy wears a symbol but himself hasn't committed any atrocities? Then you have RRR3 who chimes in like a retard and accuses people of being Nazi apologists or Nazi themselves. :facepalm

As for your questions, I don't see a disconnect at all. Unlike what you believe, the concepts of master race and eugenics were already quite popular in Germany in the late 19th century, after the Franco-Prussian War. During Nazi Germany, reclaiming its territories and expanding them went hand-in-hand with their belief that the superior Aryan race deserved more lands and deserved to dominate over inferior people.

FultzNationRISE
05-13-2020, 03:29 AM
Who's saying that Nazism is an ideology to be celebrated or respected. The conversation went over your head. You're proving Fultz point. You've been conditioned like a Pavlovian dog to react a certain way when the word Nazi is mentioned. It's like you guys can't comprehend what you read and just lose your marbles.

Fultz asked why those, who hate Nazism so much, don't seem to hate other ideologies that were as bad and killed way more people? You don't have to choose, you can hate all of them but somehow you don't. He also asks why you guys foam at the mouth when a random guy wears a symbol but himself hasn't committed any atrocities? Then you have RRR3 who chimes in like a retard and accuses people of being Nazi apologists or Nazi themselves. :facepalm

As for your questions, I don't see a disconnect at all. Unlike what you believe, the concepts of master race and eugenics were already quite popular in Germany in the late 19th century, after the Franco-Prussian War. During Nazi Germany, reclaiming its territories and expanding them went hand-in-hand with their belief that the superior Aryan race deserved more lands and deserved to dominate over inferior people.


Accepting the logic here isnt going to appeal to them, because they arent certain where such revelations will lead. It’s the uncertainty that scares them most.

They know the arguments are logically sound - but then what? If they now agree theyve been inconsistent, are they agreeing to... say, a Holocaust? Or not? Thats the part theyre not sure about. What are the implications of backing off the auto pilot “zomg nazi” rhetoric. What will happen? Mild persecution? Nothing? Genocide? Too much uncertainty.

Theyre comfortable with “nazi bad, orange man bad, opposite of nazi good, anti-Orange Man good.” They know who is on their side and where they fit. Right now, the mainstream has declared those the acceptable views. If suddenly an airhorn sounds and Bernie and Amy Schumer and AOC all declare that up is down, left is right, fascism good, freedom bad, theyll switch on cue and deny they were ever against whatever they used to say they were against. Straight 1984 style. They guzzle the group kool aid and that’s it. Period.

The security, the predictability, the belonging is what they long for. That’s how himans are generally wired.

So it’s quite demonstrable our points are rational and reasonable, while they are emotionally clinging to what is comforting and familiar to them - you know, because theyre committed to science n stuff :oldlol: (as long as their leaders tell them science is in right now :crazysam: )


But theyre not gonna admit to it, because then what? They wont know what to think.

And unfortunately that’s not something theyre prepared to figure out for themselves.

Phong
05-13-2020, 04:02 AM
^^^

Well put. Too bad that they'll dismiss what you say as a rant because they don't want to face their reality.

bladefd
05-13-2020, 04:10 AM
Who's saying that Nazism is an ideology to be celebrated or respected. The conversation went over your head. You're proving Fultz point. You've been conditioned like a Pavlovian dog to react a certain way when the word Nazi is mentioned. It's like you guys can't comprehend what you read and just lose your marbles.

Fultz asked why those, who hate Nazism so much, don't seem to hate other ideologies that were as bad and killed way more people? You don't have to choose, you can hate all of them but somehow you don't. He also asks why you guys foam at the mouth when a random guy wears a symbol but himself hasn't committed any atrocities? Then you have RRR3 who chimes in like a retard and accuses people of being Nazi apologists or Nazi themselves. :facepalm

As for your questions, I don't see a disconnect at all. Unlike what you believe, the concepts of master race and eugenics were already quite popular in Germany in the late 19th century, after the Franco-Prussian War. During Nazi Germany, reclaiming its territories and expanding them went hand-in-hand with their belief that the superior Aryan race deserved more lands and deserved to dominate over inferior people.

Then it seems my post went over your head. I was not talking about you respecting Nazism, but neo-Nazis and white supremacists. Those are who this thread is concerning. The entire Nazism ideology was formed by a small number of twisted elites. That was my whole point, which apparently went over your head.

I was not talking to fultz. I have had that guy on my ignore list for a while and I don't bother with what he says or posts. I was responding to your post. It's possible you are fultz so I could be talking to the same idiot, I don't know.

Regardless, I told you why Nazism is a ideology built by a small group of twisted people with focus on pure hatred. This thread is about Nazism not another ideology. I'm not going to talk about Stalins ideas or Mao or Caligula or Nero out of the blue in a thread concerning Hitler and the Nazi party. You are welcome to ask about my thoughts on Caligula's ideology and go off topic to other ideologies.

Yeah, there were some thoughts on eugenics and Aryan master race before Nazis, but Hitler took it to the extreme. Nazis were experimenting on other "inferior" races (including jew political prisoners) years before ww2 broke out. They took things to the next level in trying to create these Aryan supersoldiers and eugenics research.

FultzNationRISE
05-13-2020, 04:14 AM
Boiled down:




I'm a total intellectual lightweight.

Phong
05-13-2020, 05:06 AM
Then it seems my post went over your head. I was not talking about you respecting Nazism, but neo-Nazis and white supremacists. Those are who this thread is concerning. The entire Nazism ideology was formed by a small number of twisted elites. That was my whole point, which apparently went over your head. Whether you talked about Nazis or Neo- Nazis, nobody here is talking about respecting them. The fact that you thought otherwise really shows that you have terrible reading comprehension skills.



I was not talking to fultz. I have had that guy on my ignore list for a while and I don't bother with what he says or posts. I was responding to your post. It's possible you are fultz so I could be talking to the same idiot, I don't know. If you can tell between him and I, you're quite the idiot. Furthermore, don't join a conversation in the middle if you haven't followed it from the start. That way, you'll have an idea of what is being discussed.



Regardless, I told you why Nazism is a ideology built by a small group of twisted people with focus on pure hatred.Ahh hatred. Pure hatred..lol You guys love that word. Hate speech this. Hate crime that. Always so focused on virtue signaling. Is there some kind of handbook somewhere that teaches how to become a parrot like you?

Nazism is an ideology based on the belief that some people are better than other due to their race, history, culture, etc. Hatred is not necessary. Nazis considered Mediterraneans or Eastern Europeans to be inferior but didn't hate them.

Pure hate..lol



This thread is about Nazism not another ideology. I'm not going to talk about Stalins ideas or Mao or Caligula or Nero out of the blue in a thread concerning Hitler and the Nazi party. You are welcome to ask about my thoughts on Caligula's ideology and go off topic to other ideologies. That won't be necessary. Nobody's interested in your opinion. It's always full of platitudes.



Yeah, there were some thoughts on eugenics and Aryan master race before Nazis, but Hitler took it to the extreme. Nazis were experimenting on other "inferior" races (including jew political prisoners) years before ww2 broke out. They took things to the next level in trying to create these Aryan supersoldiers and eugenics research. Going from the hypothesis to the experiment isn't what I would call extreme. That's the scientific method. There's only so much talking you can do, at some point you have to put it into practice.

bladefd
05-13-2020, 03:14 PM
The entire shtick of the Hitler Nazi party was to blame the Jews for the issues Germany ran into after getting manhandled in ww1. Nazi party was ultimately about revenge and punishing those they believe to be the cause for the state they ended up in after ww1 to make Germany great again. The Nazis despised Jews, Gypsies, Blacks, Communists, Americans, other Westerners in no particular order for what they believe to be the reason for their subjugation after ww1. Single testicle Hitler was made to look like an utter fool by the Allies in ww1 and Germany was the laughingstock. Well, they were made to look even worse in ww2 and were even bigger laughingstocks. So much for revenge. That is Nazi history in a nutshell. It's an ideology that belongs in a history book, and that is where it will stay.

And no, I don't consider forced sterilization of people against their will to be science. There was no evidence that Aryans were superior in any way to other groups of humans (or races as we call it, which technically is not biologically sound since we are all the same species and sub-species). It wasn't just an experiment but actual reality for various groups of people, and it was not scientifically sound as I stated.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 03:39 PM
The entire shtick of the Hitler Nazi party was to blame the Jews for the issues Germany ran into after getting manhandled in ww1. Nazi party was ultimately about revenge and punishing those they believe to be the cause for the state they ended up in after ww1 to make Germany great again. The Nazis despised Jews, Gypsies, Blacks, Communists, Americans, other Westerners in no particular order for what they believe to be the reason for their subjugation after ww1. Single testicle Hitler was made to look like an utter fool by the Allies in ww1 and Germany was the laughingstock. Well, they were made to look even worse in ww2 and were even bigger laughingstocks. So much for revenge. That is Nazi history in a nutshell. It's an ideology that belongs in a history book, and that is where it will stay.

And no, I don't consider forced sterilization of people against their will to be science. There was no evidence that Aryans were superior in any way to other groups of humans (or races as we call it, which technically is not biologically sound since we are all the same species and sub-species). It wasn't just an experiment but actual reality for various groups of people, and it was not scientifically sound as I stated.
Pretty sure I’ve seen phong argue that African Americans are intellectually inferior. Just so you’re aware of what you’re dealing with here. I wouldn’t be shocked if starface is the same either.

Phong
05-13-2020, 03:55 PM
Pretty sure I’ve seen phong argue that African Americans are intellectually inferior. There's actually nothing to argue there. Anyone can look up the academic achievements, professional achievements and any other relevant metrics to arrive at that conclusion. It is not so much a racial issue but a cultural one.

rawimpact
05-13-2020, 03:58 PM
Pretty sure I’ve seen phong argue that African Americans are intellectually inferior. Just so you’re aware of what you’re dealing with here. I wouldn’t be shocked if starface is the same either.

You should learn how to separate opinions from facts... otherwise it makes you come off as ignorant.

Patrick Chewing
05-13-2020, 04:02 PM
There's actually nothing to argue there. Anyone can look up the academic achievements, professional achievements and any other relevant metrics to arrive at that conclusion. It is not so much a racial issue but a cultural one.

This

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 04:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr8ljRgcJNM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDaOgu2CQtI

oops wrong thredd

FultzNationRISE
05-13-2020, 04:21 PM
You should learn how to separate opinions from facts... otherwise it makes you come off as ignorant.


You'll notice bladefd and soycuck3 aren't actually discussing ideas themselves. They're just Thought Policing.

"Nazis are terrible, this is offensive, you cant say this, you cant believe that, it's wrong, it's bad."

They're not debating ideas about why certain things apply in some contexts and not in others, or why they believe they can unilaterally decide which groups can be stereotyped and discriminated and which cannot.

They're just trying to bully and intimidate, via political correctness, as it is the one facet of life they can pull rank, as a result of being backed up by mainstream media and opinion. "Hey, you, Nazi boy! Yeah, I'm talking to you. FVCK YOU!"

Doesnt sound very tolerant and open minded, does it? But those concepts only matter when the PC turd gets applause for them. When he gets applause for bullying and intimidating, he's gonna do that instead.

bladefd and soyuck are two of the corniest, cringiest, uninteresting and unmemorable losers in every social circle they travel in. They NEED this one chance to puff their chests out. Hating nazis is their one channel, their one opportunity to be the big brave hero. "FVCK YOU, NAZI! YEAH I SAID IT. FVCK YOU!!!!"

It's the one chance they'll ever get to say that kind of thing to someone, and only because they know their peers have preapproved it. Otherwise they dont make alpha moves ever, because without group approved context they're too scared and incapable. It's a law of nature the weak dont just push the strong around. The Scream At the Sky Brigade are counting on the fact that Nazi sympathizers are small in number and dont have much stature in American society.



This is all self evident, because if bladed and soycuck had rational arguments to make, they'd be making them. Nobody passes up using intelligent logic in a discussion if they have it at their disposal.

These two clowns are simply geeks who have no status anywhere but SJW internet circles. This is their one chance to shine. Even if it makes no sense and they're being logically deconstructed into a million pieces, they're gonna keep throwing emotional haymakers. "He's defending nazis!!!! Everyone, look!!!!! LOOK!!!!! HE'S DEFENDING NAZIS!!!!!! BACK ME UP EVERYONE!!!!!!! WE DONT ACCEPT THESE OPINIONS!!!!!!"

They must live the illusion they have triumphed in such debates. Way deep down, even though they're generally low IQ posters, they're still sentient humans and they can tell theyve lost. But they wont admit it. There's no value in it for them.

They must live the illusion.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 04:47 PM
There's actually nothing to argue there. Anyone can look up the academic achievements, professional achievements and any other relevant metrics to arrive at that conclusion. It is not so much a racial issue but a cultural one.
Do you now know the difference between intelligence and level of education? Black people aren’t less intelligent they are less educated and that is due to systemic racism. Are you unaware of this?

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 04:57 PM
Do you now know the difference between intelligence and level of education? Black people aren’t less intelligent they are less educated and that is due to systemic racism. Are you unaware of this?

who gives a ****, IQ tests are bullshit anyways ;)

the usa has proven that the black race can be just as rich, selfish, and evil as the most evil white industrialist.

jay-z won the rap game. hes basically a black trump. ceo rapper

tpols
05-13-2020, 04:59 PM
Do you now know the difference between intelligence and level of education? Black people aren’t less intelligent they are less educated and that is due to systemic racism. Are you unaware of this?

so how are all the universities in Africa doing then?

Phong
05-13-2020, 05:03 PM
Do you now know the difference between intelligence and level of education? Feel free to make an argument that proves equal intelligence. With what metrics are you gonna show that?

Blacks have the highest rate of school drop outs. Even compared to their peers who attend the exact same schools, they perform worse. In college, even with affirmative action (systemic racism?) which allows them to enroll with lower grades and SAT scores their rate of graduation is low. Could they perform better? Yes but they're not intelligent enough to recognize the importance of an education and apply themselves.

But let's leave the world of academia for a second. Second highest rate of teenage pregnancies. Highest rate of crime. Highest rate of single-parent household. All those life decisions doesn't scream intelligence to me.

How do you determine their intelligence?



Black people aren’t less intelligent they are less educated and that is due to systemic racism. Are you unaware of this?Which current laws or institutions are holding them down?

RRR3
05-13-2020, 05:04 PM
so how are all the universities in Africa doing then?
You are incapable of using nuance and context. It’s apparent from your discussions on both here and the NBA forum. I suspect your IQ is in the 90s which makes it ironic for you to critique anyone else’s intelligence.

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 05:06 PM
You are incapable of using nuance and context. It’s apparent from your discussions on both here and the NBA forum. I suspect your IQ is in the 90s which makes it ironic for you to critique anyone else’s intelligence.

relax guys. you are all dumb here. no need to mince words.

Phong
05-13-2020, 05:06 PM
You are incapable of using nuance and context. It’s apparent from your discussions on both here and the NBA forum. I suspect your IQ is in the 90s which makes it ironic for you to critique anyone else’s intelligence. "Nuance and context" from the guy who calls everyone a Nazi. :roll:

RRR3
05-13-2020, 05:11 PM
Feel free to make an argument that proves equal intelligence. With what metrics are you gonna show that?

Blacks have the highest rate of school drop outs. Even compared to their peers who attend the exact same schools, they perform worse. In college, even with affirmative action (systemic racism?) which allows them to enroll with lower grades and SAT scores their rate of graduation is low. Could they perform better? Yes but their not intelligent enough to recognize the importance of an education and apply themselves.

But let's leave the world of academia for a second. Second highest rate of teenage pregnancies. Highest rate of crime. Highest rate of single-parent household. All those life decisions doesn't scream intelligence to me.

How do you determine their intelligence?

Which current laws or institutions are holding them down?
I determine their intelligence because their is no difference in intellect between any race. Race is a human construct. We made it up. Their is literally no scientific basis for any of your claims, you are using misleading arguments to try and convince others and yourself that your racist beliefs are correct.

If you don’t think systemic racism exists, you are just being willfully ignorant.

tpols
05-13-2020, 05:11 PM
You are incapable of using nuance and context. It’s apparent from your discussions on both here and the NBA forum. I suspect your IQ is in the 90s which makes it ironic for you to critique anyone else’s intelligence.


I hear the University of Congo is on par with Oxford and Harvard?

Why cant it take the leap and make no. 1?

Is the evil white man holding it back?

FultzNationRISE
05-13-2020, 05:12 PM
I wouldnt indulge soycuck in a debate on race issues, fellas.

He wants to bait you into saying something “racist” so he has a chance to virtue signal and publicly defend groups he has autocratically decided needs his defense. He’s not interested in meaningful and productive discussion. That is a luxury afforded only to those whose self worth, social value and identity are not in a precarious state. He is the least able to afford such endeavors.

Race/racism debates are exactly where he wants to steer every discussion. It’s his home turf. Not because he’s educated or intuitive on the matter; simply because he knows his memorized talking points will appear most relevant there.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 05:12 PM
"Nuance and context" from the guy who calls everyone a Nazi. :roll:
“Why did meanie pants RRR3 call me a Nazi sympathizer when all I did was defend Nazism? :cry: He’s such a big mean soycuck loser :mad:”

Phong
05-13-2020, 05:13 PM
OK. You have no argument. I'm not surprised.

Everybody is equally intelligent because I said so. There's absolutely no genetic difference and cultural differences between people. I've been told there's systemic racism but I can't elaborate on that.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 05:13 PM
I hear the University of Congo is on par with Oxford and Harvard?

Why cant it take the leap and make no. 1?

Is the evil white man holding it back?
You literally said Giannis Antetokounmpo is bad at basketball. You have the intellect of a capybara.

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 05:15 PM
You literally said Giannis Antetokounmpo is bad at basketball. You have the intellect of a capybara.

pro tip: think rationally and try to avoid mudslinging.

tpols
05-13-2020, 05:20 PM
OK. You have no argument. I'm not surprised.

Everybody is equally intelligent because I said so. There's absolutely no genetic difference and cultural differences between people. I've been told there's systemic racism but I can't elaborate on that.

the dude is so ****ing dumb.

Starface's rants are sorta played out but so ridiculously on point with this fella.

He thinks there is absolutely NO difference between people of totally different genetic and cultural origins.

it's crazy we post on an NBA forum... black males are only 5% of the population and 95% of the NBA.

There is NO difference between anybody. Everybody is born with the exact same blank slate.

We are all identical clones at birth with identical upbringings. Across the whole world. If anybody fails.... it was racism that did it.

:roll:

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 05:21 PM
the dude is so ****ing dumb.

Starface's rants are sorta played out but so ridiculously on point with this fella.

He thinks there is absolutely NO difference between people of totally different genetic and cultural origins.

it's crazy we post on an NBA forum... black males are only 5% of the population and 95% of the NBA.

There is NO difference between anybody. Everybody is born with the exact same blank slate.

We are all identical clones at birth with identical upbringings. Across the whole world. If anybody fails.... it was racism that did it.

:roll:

black people dance better than any other race.

is that racist?

russian ballerinas tho... so good...so good

RRR3
05-13-2020, 05:23 PM
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/



Today, the mainstream belief among scientists is that race is a social construct without biological meaning.


In an article published today (Feb. 4) in the journal Science, four scholars say racial categories are weak proxies for genetic diversity and need to be phased out.


"What the study of complete genomes from different parts of the world has shown is that even between Africa and Europe, for example, there is not a single absolute genetic difference, meaning no single variant where all Africans have one variant and all Europeans another one, even when recent migration is disregarded," Pääbo told Live Science. "It is all a question of differences in how frequent different variants are on different continents and in different regions."

FultzNationRISE
05-13-2020, 05:25 PM
the dude is so ****ing dumb.

Starface's rants are sorta played out but so ridiculously on point with this fella.

He thinks there is absolutely NO difference between people of totally different genetic and cultural origins.

it's crazy we post on an NBA forum... black males are only 5% of the population and 95% of the NBA.

There is NO difference between anybody. Everybody is born with the exact same blank slate.

We are all identical clones at birth with identical upbringings. Across the whole world. If anybody fails.... it was racism that did it.

:roll:


Nice hedge against the next time you and I disagree. :crazysam:


Anway, does soycuck want to get rid of racial classification across the board, including census data, admissions standards, and lawsuit criteria? Or only when it comes to winning debates in the innerwebs?

Is it an “only I can ignore science when I want to, but other people cant unless I approve” situation?

Ask him for me please.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 05:25 PM
the dude is so ****ing dumb.

Starface's rants are sorta played out but so ridiculously on point with this fella.

He thinks there is absolutely NO difference between people of totally different genetic and cultural origins.

it's crazy we post on an NBA forum... black males are only 5% of the population and 95% of the NBA.

There is NO difference between anybody. Everybody is born with the exact same blank slate.

We are all identical clones at birth with identical upbringings. Across the whole world. If anybody fails.... it was racism that did it.

:roll:
“Giannis bad at basketball bro. I am very smart”

https://cdn.britannica.com/s:800x450,c:crop/94/194294-138-B2CF7780/overview-capybara.jpg

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 05:25 PM
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/

boom. there ya go.

now youre acting like a liberal

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 05:26 PM
“Giannis bad at basketball bro. I am very smart”

https://cdn.britannica.com/s:800x450,c:crop/94/194294-138-B2CF7780/overview-capybara.jpg

oh those little babies. yeshshhhhhh

Phong
05-13-2020, 05:27 PM
black people dance better than any other race.

is that racist?

russian ballerinas tho... so good...so good Dancing is cool and will get you the ladies. Studying is for whitties and Uncle Toms.

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 05:28 PM
Dancing is cool and will get you the ladies. Studying is for whitties and Uncle Toms.

thats binary thinking.

tpols
05-13-2020, 05:31 PM
Nice hedge against the next time you and I disagree. :crazysam:


Anway, does soycuck want to get rid of racial classification across the board, including census data, admissions standards, and lawsuit criteria? Or only when it comes to winning debates in the innerwebs?

Is it an “only I can ignore science when I want to, but other people cant unless I approve” situation?

Ask him for me please.

the people who really get screwed by college quotas are asians...

Do you know how high a SAT score and GPA you need to get into a top college as an asian? compared to an AA or hispanic?

Why give such a ridiculous handicap if were all the same?

oh yea... racism. thats why. :lol

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 05:33 PM
the people who really get screwed by college quotas are asians...

Do you know how high a SAT score and GPA you need to get into a top college as an asian? compared to an AA or hispanic?

Why give such a ridiculous handicap if were all the same?

oh yea... racism. thats why. :lol

yep that is true. asians are kept at a higher standard, if not whites would become a minority at their own white school. the school with the white ownership.

i should say caucasian, not white.

FultzNationRISE
05-13-2020, 05:37 PM
the people who really get screwed by college quotas are asians...

Do you know how high a SAT score and GPA you need to get into a top college as an asian? compared to an AA or hispanic?

Why give such a ridiculous handicap if were all the same?

oh yea... racism. thats why. :lol


@Fonzworth

Phong
05-13-2020, 05:43 PM
the people who really get screwed by college quotas are asians...

Do you know how high a SAT score and GPA you need to get into a top college as an asian? compared to an AA or hispanic?

Why give such a ridiculous handicap if were all the same?

oh yea... racism. thats why. :lol

Somehow children of Asian refugees/immigrants, whose parents don't even speak English and live in poverty, have an advantage over blacks whose English is their first language and who have lived here for generations.

Why do Asians have to over-perform to get into college? Systemic racism indeed.

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 05:45 PM
Somehow children of Asian refugees/immigrants, whose parents don't even speak English and live in poverty, have an advantage over blacks whose English is their first language and who have lived here for generations.

Why do Asians have to over-perform to get into college? Systemic racism indeed.

the asians can build their own schools if they want. free market capitalism in the USA

why go to BET looking for Heavy Metal?

WHy go to the NBA looking for volleyball? HMMM????

WHy not go to a college in CHina?

https://i.imgur.com/VrenaEV.jpg

school is overrated.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 05:45 PM
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/
Phong desperately avoiding this :lol

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 05:47 PM
Phong desperately avoiding this :lol

yeah whats up w that PHONG??

Phong
05-13-2020, 05:49 PM
Phong desperately avoiding this :lol Do you realize that if we're all equal, it means that blacks have done less with their abilities than, let's say, Asians.

They're capable of more, yet don't do it. Nobody forces them to drop out of school, to have children at a young age and abandon them or to commit crimes. Their poor life choices shows a clear lack of intelligence.

Don't talk about avoiding anything when you never answer a single question.

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 05:52 PM
Do you realize that if we're all equal, it means that blacks have done less with their abilities than, let's say, Asians.

They're capable of more, yet don't do it. Nobody forces them to drop out of school, to have children at a young age and abandon them or to commit crimes. Their poor life choices shows a clear lack of intelligence.

Don't talk about avoiding anything when you never answer a single question.

https://media.giphy.com/media/EzGslrzAb5AxG/giphy.gif

all right, all right..theres your response. hes saying stats vs theory

Phong
05-13-2020, 05:53 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/EzGslrzAb5AxG/giphy.gif

all right, all right..theres your response. hes saying stats vs theory We already knew that SJWs don't like facts.

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 05:55 PM
We already knew that SJWs don't like facts.

its the full circle, now he should come back with the theory that the broken system is creating these numbers..

ive seen this a million times before

i believe in free will yet i also believe the system does create a reaction.

asians are not committing crimes and shit, that is true. but they dont have the stigma either


its all weird

FultzNationRISE
05-13-2020, 05:56 PM
The “racial achievements debate” already comes up regularly in other threads.

Lettuce not let the femme bots devolve this thread into more of the same. It’s what they want every discussion to boil down to. “You dont think races are equal so youre racist and that makes you the bad guy and me the good guy THE END.”


This is about people who profess open mindedness and tolerance condemning the ideologies of others, while accusing their political opponents of bigotry when they do the same.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 05:58 PM
Do you realize that if we're all equal, it means that blacks have done less with their abilities than, let's say, Asians.

They're capable of more, yet don't do it. Nobody forces them to drop out of school, to have children at a young age and abandon them or to commit crimes. Their poor life choices shows a clear lack of intelligence.

Don't talk about avoiding anything when you never answer a single question.
:facepalm

Your bullshit theories only work if we assume black peoole are afforded the same opportunities as everyone else in America.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 05:59 PM
:facepalm

Your bullshit theories only work if we assume black peoole are afforded the same opportunities as everyone else in America.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism

boom . there it is. same old circle of intellectual jargon weve been seeing since Jim Crow

gimme another drink.


honestly people are dumb and getting dumber

RRR3
05-13-2020, 05:59 PM
We already knew that SJWs don't like facts.
Thinking Black people aren’t genetically inferior is being a SJW now :lol

Phong, ladies and gentlemen.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 06:00 PM
boom . there it is. same old circle of intellectual jargon weve been seeing since Jim Crow

gimme another drink.


honestly people are dumb and getting dumber
Dude is just lobbing me alley oops at this point. For someone who thinks he’s superior to me (I’m part black so obviously I’m inferior to him as an Asian by his logic) he’s coming off very badly.

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 06:00 PM
Thinking Black people aren’t genetically inferior is being a SJW now :lol

Phong, ladies and gentlemen.

boom. right on cue.

binary thoughts

truth is somewhere in the middle

taste the rainbow of reality

black and white, life is not

Phong
05-13-2020, 06:00 PM
:facepalm

Your bullshit theories only work if we assume black peoole are afforded the same opportunities as everyone else in America.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racismLOL.. Right now, in 2020, how are they not afforded the same opportunities? You're link refers to policies that are decades old and no longer practiced.

Somehow racist America has rolled the red carpet for Asians? :facepalm

RRR3
05-13-2020, 06:01 PM
Starface belligerently screeching incoherently and being ignored by everyone else in the thread. :lol



Poor fella

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 06:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7UgyFwn.gif

RRR3
05-13-2020, 06:04 PM
LOL.. Right now, in 2020, how are they not afforded the same opportunities? You're link refers to policies that are decades old and no longer practiced.
Holy shit.

1. Black people are disproportionately impoverished. Impoverished people are afforded less opportunities for jobs and education.
2. Black people are disproportionately targeted by the criminal justice system.


Is this really a difficult concept for you?

Phong
05-13-2020, 06:07 PM
Holy shit.

1. Black people are disproportionately impoverished. Impoverished people are afforded less opportunities for jobs and education. Asians who came here with nothing but the clothes on their backs and not speaking English were not impoverished? :oldlol:



2. Black people are disproportionately targeted by the criminal justice system.


Is this really a difficult concept for you?
3. Don't commit crimes at a disproportionate rate, don't go to jail. Is this really a difficult concept for you? :oldlol:

I see a lot of finger pointing and shifting blame. With their lack of accountability no wonder why they'll never progress.

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 06:09 PM
Asians who came here with nothing but the clothes on their backs and not speaking English were not impoverished? :oldlol:

Don't commit crimes, don't go to jail. Is this really a difficult concept for you? :oldlol:

I see a lot of finger pointing and shifting blame. With their lack of accountability no wonder why they'll never progress.

goodbye fried chicken

hello fried rice!!

Phong
05-13-2020, 06:11 PM
goodbye fried chicken

hello fried rice!!

We have fried chicken too :pimp:

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 06:11 PM
We have fried chicken too ��

meh. no offense but it aint up to par

https://forgifs.com/gallery/d/340506-2/Cat-massages-dog-face.gif

tpols
05-13-2020, 06:11 PM
Holy shit.

1. Black people are disproportionately impoverished. Impoverished people are afforded less opportunities for jobs and education.
2. Black people are disproportionately targeted by the criminal justice system.


Is this really a difficult concept for you?

Why are they impoverished in their own native lands and countries?

Literally since the dawn of civilization?

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 06:13 PM
Why are they impoverished in their own native lands and countries?

Literally since the dawn of civilization?

it waz the alienz

tpols
05-13-2020, 06:14 PM
Asians had gangs when they came here too.

Gangland has done specials on theiir cali sets. they were ****ing ruthless lol.

They eventually rose above the poverty and dominated. doctors, IT, engineering... dominated.

What gives?

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 06:14 PM
Asians had gangs when they came here too.

Gangland has done specials on theiir cali sets.

They eventually rose above the poverty and dominated. doctors, IT, engineering... dominated.

What gives?

fish and veggie diet

does wonders for the brain

RRR3
05-13-2020, 06:15 PM
Why are they impoverished in their own native lands and countries?

Literally since the dawn of civilization?
https://cdn.britannica.com/77/191677-050-3CBF2834/Capybara.jpg

Phong
05-13-2020, 06:15 PM
Why are they impoverished in their own native lands and countries?

Literally since the dawn of civilization?
https://youtu.be/UPt9pGfpmS0

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 06:15 PM
https://cdn.britannica.com/77/191677-050-3CBF2834/Capybara.jpg

more of this please

tpols
05-13-2020, 06:16 PM
this guy is so bad at debating... i would trump this fella on a stage.

make em look like hillary.

#crooked

RRR3
05-13-2020, 06:17 PM
Asians who came here with nothing but the clothes on their backs and not speaking English were not impoverished? :oldlol:

Don't commit crimes at a disproportionate rate, don't go to jail. Is this really a difficult concept for you? :oldlol:

I see a lot of finger pointing and shifting blame. With their lack of accountability no wonder why they'll never progress.
1. The racism against Asians in American history is not the same as the racism against African Americans. This is not to say Asian people don't experience racism, because they do, but it's not on the same level.
2. Are you under the impression everyone in jail is guilty of the crime they've committed? :oldlol: Not to mention the war on drugs disproportionately targets African Americans. Please tell me how "criminal" it is to smoke weed :roll:

RRR3
05-13-2020, 06:18 PM
Giannis is bad at basketall bro
:roll:

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 06:20 PM
https://youtu.be/UPt9pGfpmS0

asian man beating his opponent to submission...
NO MAS


https://youtu.be/j9V78UbdzWI

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 06:22 PM
best rap group was asian:
WU TANG CLAN

Phong
05-13-2020, 06:26 PM
1. The racism against Asians in American history is not the same as the racism against African Americans. This is not to say Asian people don't experience racism, because they do, but it's not on the same level. How long after the end of slavery or Jim Crow laws are black going to keep whining about it? How long are they gonna wait for reparations? Do you ever hear Asians wine about the Chinese Exclusion Act or the internment camps?

Like I said, nobodies pointing at gun in their faces to make dumb life decisions.



2. Are you under the impression everyone in jail is guilty of the crime they've committed? :oldlol: Not to mention the war on drugs disproportionately targets African Americans. Please tell me how "criminal" it is to smoke weed :roll: The vast majority of people in prison are guilty. They weren't simply minding their own business then kidnapped and thrown in jail.

As for the war on drug, you should know that it was black community leaders (politicians, preachers, etc) who pushed for harsh sentences because crack was wreaking havoc in their communities during the 70s.

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 06:28 PM
best virus was asian:
Wuhan Corona Virus

RRR3
05-13-2020, 06:31 PM
How long after the end of slavery or Jim Crow laws are black going to keep whining about it? How long are they gonna wait for reparations?

The world is tough.

The vast majority of people in prison are guilty. They weren't simply minding their own business then kidnapped and thrown in jail.

As for the war on drug, you should know that it was black community leaders (politicians, preachers, etc )who pushed for harsh sentences because crack was wreaking havoc in their communities during the 70s.
1. They'll stop "whining about it" when it stops being a huge problem.


2. Smoking weed isn't a reason to be in jail in any respectable country. I don't care what some black community leaders said in the 70s. They were obviously wrong. Those laws were used to target black citizens:https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/08/03/data-show-racial-disparity-in-crack-sentencing

Phong
05-13-2020, 06:36 PM
1. They'll stop "whining about it" when it stops being a huge problem. It's only a big problem because they've been conditioned to see everything as racism. If anything doesn't go their way, it's racist.

Even yourself, as a mutt, you can't help but scream racism at everything.



2. Smoking weed isn't a reason to be in jail in any respectable country. I don't care what some black community leaders said in the 70s. They were obviously wrong. Those laws were used to target black citizens:https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/08/03/data-show-racial-disparity-in-crack-sentencing Sentencing is exactly the same when you compare it to the cheap drug of choice for white people: meth.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 06:37 PM
It's only a big problem because they've been conditioned to see everything as racism. If anything doesn't go their way, it's racist.

Sentencing is exactly the same when you compare it to the cheap drug of choice for white people: meth.
Sick sources there, bro. Jordan Peterson videos don't count btw.

Phong
05-13-2020, 06:39 PM
Sick sources there, bro. Jordan Peterson videos don't count btw.

Jordan Peterson?

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 06:40 PM
black v asian? why not both?

TIGER WOODS

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohA2GnDgeDgRnTYac/giphy.gif

USA USA USA!!!

Phong
05-13-2020, 06:46 PM
Sick sources there, bro. Jordan Peterson videos don't count btw.
Here, from a liberal source:

The Myth of the Racist Crack Laws (https://medium.com/@JSlate__/the-myth-of-racist-crack-laws-63d7a7554cae)

"Five grams of crack triggers a mandatory minimum five-year sentence in federal court. The press almost never mentions the federal methamphetamine-trafficking penalties, which are identical to those for crack."

RRR3
05-13-2020, 06:56 PM
Here, from a liberal source:

The Myth of the Racist Crack Laws (https://medium.com/@JSlate__/the-myth-of-racist-crack-laws-63d7a7554cae)

"Five grams of crack triggers a mandatory minimum five-year sentence in federal court. The press almost never mentions the federal methamphetamine-trafficking penalties, which are identical to those for crack."
This is literally the blurb for the author of the article
"I Defend American Institutions and Foreign Policy from a Neoconservative Perspective"


Try again, slugger.

Phong
05-13-2020, 07:24 PM
This is literally the blurb for the author of the article
"I Defend American Institutions and Foreign Policy from a Neoconservative Perspective"


Try again, slugger.
"Under federal law, trafficking of 500 grams or more of powdered cocaine carried a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years in prison. However, for crack cocaine, simply possessing of 5 grams or more – without any intention to sell it."
https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/crack-cocaine.html


"Federal law requires a minimum prison sentence of 5 years for possession of methamphetamine in any amount over 5 grams, and maximum sentence of 40 years."
https://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/drug_crimes/meth-possession.htm

Phong
05-13-2020, 07:26 PM
Any more excuses? :confusedshrug:

dreamshake
05-13-2020, 07:29 PM
Can we get back to the thread topic? Two caucasians are demonstrating against being forced to wear masks when they go outside. Anyone care to address that??

RRR3
05-13-2020, 07:30 PM
"Under federal law, trafficking of 500 grams or more of powdered cocaine carried a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years in prison. However, for crack cocaine, simply possessing of 5 grams or more – without any intention to sell it."
https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/crack-cocaine.html


"Federal law requires a minimum prison sentence of 5 years for possession of methamphetamine in any amount over 5 grams, and maximum sentence of 40 years."
https://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/drug_crimes/meth-possession.htm
Where’s your source for similar arrest rates? :

I like how we’re ignoring the fact that crack and powder cocaine are literally two different forms of the same drug and bringing up meth as if that has anything to do with the topic. False equivalencies are your specialty I see.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 07:31 PM
Can we get back to the thread topic? Two caucasians are demonstrating against being forced to wear masks when they go outside. Anyone care to address that??
Phong is too busy trying to become the first Asian American member of the KKK.

Phong
05-13-2020, 07:47 PM
Where’s your source for similar arrest rates? :

I like how we’re ignoring the fact that crack and powder cocaine are literally two different forms of the same drug and bringing up meth as if that has anything to do with the topic. False equivalencies are your specialty I see. Crack and meth are cheap and readily available to the poor, black and white. Their effect on each community is similar.

As for the arrest rates, you claim blacks are arrested at a higher rate. Find the source.

Anyway, who's forcing blacks to take or sell drugs? There hasn't been a single mention of personal responsibility in any of your posts. Is it because blacks aren't intelligent enough to be held accountable for their own actions? :confusedshrug:

RRR3
05-13-2020, 08:03 PM
Crack and meth are cheap and readily available to the poor, black and white. Their effect on each community is similar.

As for the arrest rates, you claim blacks are arrested at a higher rate. Find the source.

Anyway, who's forcing blacks to take or sell drugs? There hasn't been a single mention of personal responsibility in any of your posts. Is it because blacks aren't intelligent enough to be held accountable for their own actions? :confusedshrug:
https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/


:confusedshrug:

Phong
05-13-2020, 08:15 PM
https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/

:confusedshrug: You commit disproportionately more crimes, you get policed more, you get arrested more and you get convicted more. :confusedshrug:

As usual you never answer a single of my questions.. "desperately avoiding" you would say?

Again, whose forcing blacks to commit crimes? Drop out of school? Have kids as teens and raise them in single-parent households? Join gangs? Kill each other in high number?

RRR3
05-13-2020, 08:17 PM
You commit disproportionately more crimes, you get policed more, you get arrested more and you get convicted more. :confusedshrug:

As usual you never answer a single of my questions.. "desperately avoiding" you would say?
Context and nuance are lost on you. Nothing but "black man bad".




Sad.

Phong
05-13-2020, 08:22 PM
Context and nuance are lost on you. Nothing but "black man bad".




Sad. You were supposed to show me their intelligence but all you had to offer was excuses. :confusedshrug:

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 08:28 PM
context and nuance are lost on you. Nothing but "orange man bad".




Sad.

fixed

RRR3
05-13-2020, 08:39 PM
You were supposed to show me their intelligence but all you had to offer was excuses. :confusedshrug:
You're literally arguing debunked pseudoscience :confusedshrug: Find me a single respected scientist who thinks there are racial difference in intelligence.

Phong
05-13-2020, 09:04 PM
You're literally arguing debunked pseudoscience :confusedshrug: Find me a single respected scientist who thinks there are racial difference in intelligence. This i what I wrote on page 8:


There's actually nothing to argue there. Anyone can look up the academic achievements, professional achievements and any other relevant metrics to arrive at that conclusion. It is not so much a racial issue but a cultural one.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 09:08 PM
This i what I wrote on page 8:
You are conflating intelligence with knowledge.

Phong
05-13-2020, 09:13 PM
You are conflating intelligence with knowledge.
Why don't you elaborate?

RRR3
05-13-2020, 09:14 PM
Why don't you elaborate?
Do I have to define words for you now, too?

Intelligence is inherent. Knowledge is learned. Obviously, people with less opportunities to acquire knowledge will be less knowledgeable. That doesn't make them less naturally intelligent.

DoctorP
05-13-2020, 09:15 PM
Do I have to define words for you now, too?

Intelligence is inherent. Knowledge is learned. Obviously, people with less opportunities to acquire knowledge will be less knowledgeable. That doesn't make them less naturally intelligent.

this is true

Phong
05-13-2020, 09:23 PM
Do I have to define words for you now, too?

Intelligence is inherent. Knowledge is learned. Obviously, people with less opportunities to acquire knowledge will be less knowledgeable. That doesn't make them less naturally intelligent. Again with the excuses. They're denied the opportunity to learn, huh? Otherwise they'd be the most studious. :rolleyes:

RRR3
05-13-2020, 09:26 PM
Again with the excuses. They're denied the opportunity to learn, huh? Otherwise they'd be the most studious. :rolleyes:
Explaining things is making excuses now. For someone who is supposedly so intellectually superior, you consistently make foolish arguments.

Phong
05-13-2020, 09:34 PM
Explaining things is making excuses now. For someone who is supposedly so intellectually superior, you consistently make foolish arguments. So tell me how they don't have the opportunity to learn? Is it when they drop out of school? Come on, elaborate instead of staying vague.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 09:37 PM
So tell me how they don't have the opportunity to learn? Is it when they drop out of school? Come on, elaborate instead of staying vague.
Are you really asking me how lower income brackets have worse educational opportunities than their fellow citizens?

Phong
05-13-2020, 09:40 PM
Are you really asking me how lower income brackets have worse educational opportunities than their fellow citizens? I've already addressed the fact that their peers, who are equally poor and attend the same schools, perform better than them. They also don't drop out of school at the same rate.

Hard to learn when you're not interested in learning and drop out.

RRR3
05-13-2020, 09:53 PM
I've already addressed the fact that their peers, who are equally poor and attend the same schools, perform better than them. They also don't drop out of school at the same rate.

Hard to learn when you're not interested in learning and drop out.
Reputable links?

Phong
05-14-2020, 01:29 AM
The Black-White Test Score Gap (https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-black-white-test-score-gap-why-it-persists-and-what-can-be-done/)

Recent evidence suggests that disparities in school resources do affect achievement, but resource disparities between black and white children have shrunk steadily over time. The average black child now attends school in a district that spends as much per pupil as the average white child’s district. Black children’s schools also have about the same number of teachers per pupil as white schools. In any event, schools cannot be the main reason for the black-white test score gap, because it appears before children enter school and persists even when black and white children attend the same schools.


Addressing the African American Achievement Gap (https://www.naeyc.org/resources/pubs/yc/may2018/achievement-gap)

When matched for social class, the gap in educational achievement between African Americans and other groups is substantial. African American children, on average, score lower on tests and are given lower grades than Asian, White, and Latino students. In adolescence, many of them fail courses and drop out of school. Others progress through school but do not excel; they are less often enrolled in honors courses in high school or accepted into competitive four-year colleges.


How Black-Asian Conflict Plays Out In New York City's Elite High Schools (https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/03/228192/stuyvesant-high-school-black-asian-students)

This year, out of the 895 students accepted to Stuyvesant High School, New York City’s most selective specialized high school, only seven were Black, less than 1% of this year’s incoming freshman class. Meanwhile, 33 Latinx students (3.7%), 194 white students (21.7%), and 587 Asian students (65.6%) were also offered spots.

According to Department of Education statistics, though Asian students are 74% of Stuyvesant, they represent over 90% of students who qualify for free or subsidized lunch. “All of those people who grow up poor, they’re all going to go to college, and most of them are going to end up in professional jobs … they’re going to be upwardly mobile economically,”"Lower income brackets are holding us down" :cry:

Smoke117
05-14-2020, 01:32 AM
Are you really asking me how lower income brackets have worse educational opportunities than their fellow citizens?

Kblaze is black and from the ghetto and he made something of himself. The fact of the matter is most nigs are just really lazy and averse to even trying to better themselves.

nightlight
05-14-2020, 06:21 AM
Are you really asking me how lower income brackets have worse educational opportunities than their fellow citizens?

Aren't you the son of a doctor? Aren't you college educated? You have played those advantages into what exactly? Wagging your finger at everyone else is self-serving, benefiting no one but yourself.

rawimpact
05-14-2020, 08:38 AM
"Lower income brackets are holding us down" :cry:

Why are you wasting your time defending numerous studies? I don't quite think he understands IRBs etc.

RRR3 is continuing to show his ignorance...

MaxFly
05-16-2020, 12:23 AM
If Im not mistaken it was to return control of ‘German lands’ to German people.

The Final Solution culminated in the plan and endeavor to exterminate Jews across Europe. In 1942, Senior Nazi government officials met at the Wannsee Conference to ensure the co-operation of administrative leaders of various Nazi government departments in the implementation of the Final Solution with SS leader Reinhard Heydrich outlining how Jews would be rounded up and sent to extermination camps in Poland. Minutes from the meeting were eventually found and used as evidence of the Nazi's plans during the Nuremberg Trials.

Patrick Chewing
05-16-2020, 12:42 AM
The Final Solution culminated in the plan and endeavor to exterminate Jews across Europe. In 1942, Senior Nazi government officials met at the Wannsee Conference to ensure the co-operation of administrative leaders of various Nazi government departments in the implementation of the Final Solution with SS leader Reinhard Heydrich outlining how Jews would be rounded up and sent to extermination camps in Poland. Minutes from the meeting were eventually found and used as evidence of the Nazi's plans during the Nuremberg Trials.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?479821-DOJ-Drops-Case-Against-Michael-Flynn