1993 Phoenix Suns vs. 2003 San Antonio Spurs

[Lebron23]

Who wins in a best of 7 series? MVP Barkley vs MVP Duncan.

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Who wins in a best of 7 series? MVP Barkley vs MVP Duncan.

- Spurs win.
- Robinson > any other 2nd option defensively Barkley had.
- Robinson was the 2nd or 3rd best rim protector in the nba (Mourning and Moutombo where right there wth him) and 2nd best all arond defensive center (after Hakeem)
- Then you add Parker and Ginoboli: true team players that make others better.
- Barkley outscores, outshoots, out rebounds and outassits Duncan (who outblocks Barkley) but still Suns loose.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Duncan is just in a much higher tier over Barkley for peaks, so I have to say spurs in 7. The 1993 suns are a poor man's version of 2003 mavs. Those mavs had spurs on the ropes until Dirk was injured. 2003 spurs were not a great team because they didn't have a good 2nd option for TD yet. I still say spurs in 7 because Barkley will find a way to choke like he always does hahaha

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Duncan is just in a much higher tier over Barkley for peaks, so I have to say spurs in 7. The 1993 suns are a poor man's version of 2003 mavs. Those mavs had spurs on the ropes until Dirk was injured. 2003 spurs were not a great team because they didn't have a good 2nd option for TD yet. I still say spurs in 7 because Barkley will find a way to choke like he always does hahaha

Barkley chokes?

These are Barkley's play-off numbers: 23 PPG on 51% FG (22.5 PPG on 55.13% Two-Point FG taking ONLY 14.5 Two-Point FGAs PG), 12.9 RPG, 3.9 APG, 1.6 SPG and 0.9 BPG...that's not choking at all.

Barkley did not choke at all he was actually injured when he played bad in the play-offs such as: in the 91 play.offs vs the Bulls where shot like 64% FG on over 25 PPG, injured after game 2 of the 93 finals (elbow), injured also in 94 for the season and injured in 95 vs the Rockets.

[Reggie43]

Suns because Barkley had better teammates surrounding him

[Whoah10115]

Yeah the Suns win. Contrary to dumb opinion above, Barkley is the better player.

David Robinson is the best defensive player but Barkley had KJ coming back and getting better and better, Majerle, Ainge, Chambers and the rest.

Suns win, absolutely.

[SouBeachTalents]

- Spurs win.
- Robinson > any other 2nd option defensively Barkley had.
- Robinson was the 2nd or 3rd best rim protector in the nba (Mourning and Moutombo where right there wth him) and 2nd best all arond defensive center (after Hakeem)
- Then you add Parker and Ginoboli: true team players that make others better.
- Barkley outscores, outshoots, out rebounds and outassits Duncan (who outblocks Barkley) but still Suns loose.
Robinson was 37 and in his final NBA season, barely playing 25 mpg
Parker was in his 2nd year averaging 16 ppg
Manu was a rookie averaging 8 ppg

None of these guys were remotely close to playing at a star level, and far removed from the great players they either were or would become

Duncan averaged 15 rebounds/5 assists on 53% shooting during those playoffs, figures Barkley failed to match in any playoff series in 1993. And I'd bet on Barkley having a harder time scoring on Duncan/Robinson than Duncan against that soft ass Suns defense

[OrlandoMagicGuy]

Suns

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Old-Injury Prone & Overweight 34-37 Year Old Barkley vs Prime 21-23 Year Old Tim Duncan:

Barkley Minutes Per Game: 34.7 vs Duncan Minutes Per Game: 38.4
PPG by Barkley; 17.00 PPG vs Duncan PPG: 16.0
Field Goal Attempts by Barkley: 13.3 vs Field Goal Attempts by Duncan 13.8
APG by Barkley; 2.4 vs APG by Duncan: 4,0
FG% by Barkley: 47.2% vs FG% by Duncan: 46.4%
RPG by Barkley: 11.8 vs RPG by Duncan: 10.0
SPG by Barkley: 1.9 vs SPG by Duncan: 0.3
BPG by Barkley: 0.5 vs BPG by Duncan: 1.6
TOVs PG by Barkley: 2.0 vs TOVs PG by Duncan: 2.3
PFs PG by Barkley; 3.0 vs PFs PG by Duncan: 3.6

So as you can see not only did Barkley HELD HIS OWN against Duncan but was actually old/overweight/injury prone Barkley NOT EVEN CLOSE TO PRIME & PEAK BARKLEY

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Barkley chokes?

These are Barkley's play-off numbers: 23 PPG on 51% FG (22.5 PPG on 55.13% Two-Point FG taking ONLY 14.5 Two-Point FGAs PG), 12.9 RPG, 3.9 APG, 1.6 SPG and 0.9 BPG...that's not choking at all.

Barkley did not choke at all he was actually injured when he played bad in the play-offs such as: in the 91 play.offs vs the Bulls where shot like 64% FG on over 25 PPG, injured after game 2 of the 93 finals (elbow), injured also in 94 for the season and injured in 95 vs the Rockets.

Barkley had 38% eFG in game 6 of 1993 finals despite being at home. His TS from reg season to playoffs also took a near 5% drop.

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Barkley had 38% eFG in game 6 of 1993 finals despite being at home. His TS from reg season to playoffs also took a near 5% drop.

He did not shoot well that series but he averaged 13.0 RPG and 5.5 APG. He scored 27.3 PPG on like 48% FG. Still pretty good if you face to ALL NBA DEFENSIVE TEAMERS in Pippen and Grant.

You are forgeting that in game 2 Chuck wen't to grab his own missed offensive rebound and hurt his elbow as he landed on the floor. He played injured the rest of the series. He had a thick covering for his elbow.

[Norcaliblunt]

Barkley chokes?

These are Barkley's play-off numbers: 23 PPG on 51% FG (22.5 PPG on 55.13% Two-Point FG taking ONLY 14.5 Two-Point FGAs PG), 12.9 RPG, 3.9 APG, 1.6 SPG and 0.9 BPG...that's not choking at all.

Barkley did not choke at all he was actually injured when he played bad in the play-offs such as: in the 91 play.offs vs the Bulls where shot like 64% FG on over 25 PPG, injured after game 2 of the 93 finals (elbow), injured also in 94 for the season and injured in 95 vs the Rockets.

Barkley choked game 5 95 semi finals. Missed free throws which would have sealed the series.

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If missing free throws is a choking then many have chocked too. What about Wilt? He chocked even more then too (and is seen as better than Barkley). Barkley's style of play while overweight is what caused his injuries in the play-offs. Had he taken care of his body like he did in the last 3 years in Phily etc he could've perfmored even better and ofcourse lasted longer. 1989-1993 Barkley was the best verion of Barkley btw not the one after

[Norcaliblunt]

If missing free throws is a choking then many have chocked too. What about Wilt? He chocked even more then too (and is seen as better than Barkley). Barkley's style of play while overweight is what caused his injuries in the play-offs. Had he taken care of his body like he did in the last 3 years in Phily etc he could've perfmored even better and ofcourse lasted longer. 1989-1993 Barkley was the best verion of Barkley btw not the one after

Missing free throws in crunch time is choking and yeah many a stars have choked. Lol. Barkley is one my favorite players all time but that 95 semi finals was probably the toughest loss ever in my fandom.

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Missing free throws in crunch time is choking and yeah many a stars have choked. Lol. Barkley is one my favorite players all time but that 95 semi finals was probably the toughest loss ever in my fandom.

Barkley was usually injured when he did not perform well after 93. His play-off stats look pretty good even as a role player in Houston. The whole Suns team chocked not just Barkley. Barkley was usually injured and not durable after 93. Yup the Kiss of Death was the one that hurt me the most as a Barkley fan. I knew after that he would never win a ring