Was Kawhi Leonard series vs 76ers the best ever?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Was Kawhi Leonard series vs 76ers the best performance of all time from a player in one series?

I would like for a poster to come up with a better played series from a player in NBA history using these requirements

- 63% TS or better
- 121 offensive rating or better
- 34.7 PPG or better
- 57% eFG or better
- Win a series in 2nd round or later and have 7 players on your team's rotation that shoot worse then 45% FG

[Nilocon165]

Lebron James, 2017 Round 2 vs Raptors:

-73% TS

-131 offensive rating

-36.00 ppg

-66% eFG

Second round too but only 3 teammates shot below 45%

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2017-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-raptors-vs-cavaliers.html

[DoctorP]

inflated stats era but good performances the both of em.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Lebron James, 2017 Round 2 vs Raptors:

-73% TS

-131 offensive rating

-36.00 ppg

-66% eFG

Second round too but only 3 teammates shot below 45%

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2017-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-raptors-vs-cavaliers.html

So he still fell short of 4 teammates and he was playing against a significantly worse team. Looks like Leonard is the greatest man to ever live after all.

[LeCroix]

Lebron James, 2017 Round 2 vs Raptors:

-73% TS

-131 offensive rating

-36.00 ppg

-66% eFG

Second round too but only 3 teammates shot below 45%

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2017-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-raptors-vs-cavaliers.html

:lol

/THREAD

2ez

[LeCroix]

Also LBJ vs Pacers in 2018


-34.0 ppg
-66 TS%
-59% eFG
128 OffRtg
7x teammates shot under 45% fg
30.0 Game Score

Good luck! Finding a series where Kawhi had a 30.0 GameScore :lol

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Also LBJ vs Pacers in 2018


-34.0 ppg
-66 TS%
-59% eFG
128 OffRtg
7x teammates shot under 45% fg
30.0 Game Score

Good luck! Finding a series where Kawhi had a 30.0 GameScore :lol

The first poster failed to do what I said and so did you. Pacers 2018 was a 1st round series, i said 2nd round or later only.

Very nice try I encourage the effort, blame Leonard for losing this game and not me lol

[Nilocon165]

The first poster failed to do what I said and so did you. Pacers 2018 was a 1st round series, i said 2nd round or later only.

Very nice try I encourage the effort, blame Leonard for losing this game and not me lol
Again, if you’re gonna troll you have to actually be funny

I don’t make the rules

[LeCroix]

The first poster failed to do what I said and so did you. Pacers 2018 was a 1st round series, i said 2nd round or later only.

Very nice try I encourage the effort, blame Leonard for losing this game and not me lol

Thread failure after two swift jabs

RIP to OP :lol

[LeCroix]

27.0 GameScore. Cute.

LeBron had 30.0 in 2018 vs Pacers
Byyyyyyye

[3ball]

Good luck! Finding a series where Kawhi had a 30.0 GameScore :lol



But Lebron isn't timely or clutch and defers to lesser teammates, so he lost 2 fourth quarter leads in the 18' Finals and 3 in the 09' ECF


And he doesn't have a ,31 gamescore like Mike.. https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1989-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bulls-vs-knicks.html

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Again, if you’re gonna troll you have to actually be funny

I don’t make the rules

How am I the one trolling? My original post asked you to do something and you didn't do it. The series has to be in the 2nd round only and Pacers 2018 was 1st round.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

But Lebron isn't timely or clutch and defers to lesser teammates, so he lost 2 fourth quarter leads in the 18' Finals and 3 in the 09' ECF


And he doesn't have a ,31 gamescore like Mike.. https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1989-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bulls-vs-knicks.html

Jordan has 2 starters ahead of him on FG% in that series, so that's not going to cut it in terms of a carry job.

[Nilocon165]

How am I the one trolling? My original post asked you to do something and you didn't do it. The series has to be in the 2nd round only and Pacers 2018 was 1st round.
Because it’s one of the most ridiculously specific things ever?

I gave you stats that were clearly better and you got defensive since you didn’t think anyone could prove you wrong

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Because it’s one of the most ridiculously specific things ever?

I gave you stats that were clearly better and you got defensive since you didn’t think anyone could prove you wrong

It shows how much of a carry job it was, that's why. If you want to say just 5 players on your rotation that shoots under 45% that's fine as well.

[tpols]

Kevin Durant shot better on higher volume against Cleveland.

I honestly didnt realize kawhi was that dominant though in that series. 35/10 from your SF with a series winning game 7 buzzer beater.

NOBODY can hate on kawhi. He is a GOAT basketball player with almost no weakness.

[LeCroix]

But Lebron isn't timely or clutch and defers to lesser teammates, so he lost 2 fourth quarter leads in the 18' Finals and 3 in the 09' ECF


And he doesn't have a ,31 gamescore like Mike.. https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1989-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bulls-vs-knicks.html

mike may have the better playoff series for a game score but not the best finals game! where do I find those pics :lol

[LeCroix]

Kevin Durant shot better on higher volume against Cleveland.

I honestly didnt realize kawhi was that dominant though. 35/10 from your SF with a series winning game 7 buzzer beater.

NOBODY can hate on kawhi. He is a GOAT basketball player with almost no weakness.

He had a 27.0 game score series. that is damn near elite. 30 and above is super elite

lebron has 5 series and mj has 6 series above 30

[tpols]

and they werent playing bums. the 76ers were loaded with supposed top talent.

[tpols]

He had a 27.0 game score series. that is damn near elite. 30 and above is super elite

lebron has 5 series and mj has 6 series above 30

id assume assists are a heavy part of that equation.

Kawhi doesnt need to dominate the ball to produce. Thats why he's always lapped Lebron.

Siakam wouldnt have been shit in switched positions between the two and the team wouldve never reached their cieling. (or won the title)

[LeCroix]

and they werent playing bums. the 76ers were loaded with supposed top talent.

yeah but 27.0 is great, not elite.

plus that was ecsf

1st round and sf are the only rounds where players can get 30.0+ game score

so kawhi was in the 2nd round but still didnt even get to 30, which lbj has done 5 times and mj 6.

next

[Manny98]

Did he lead both teams in all statiscal categories against a 73 win team?

https://i.postimg.cc/HsKKw9y8/d0c5a097d1f5227da6abd20838bc4641.jpg

[LeCroix]

Did he lead both teams in all statiscal categories against a 73 win team?

https://i.postimg.cc/HsKKw9y8/d0c5a097d1f5227da6abd20838bc4641.jpg

the bomb goes boom

mind you against:

#1 winining team all time (73 wins)
#8 all time SRS team
one of only 5 teams ever with 3 all nbas
only team ever with 3 all nbas and 3 olympians that year

[AlternativeAcc.]

Did he lead both teams in all statiscal categories against a 73 win team?

https://i.postimg.cc/HsKKw9y8/d0c5a097d1f5227da6abd20838bc4641.jpg

Booom!

Poor Kawhit watching his Raptors win 60 games without him

That Jordan impact :oldlol:

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kevin Durant shot better on higher volume against Cleveland.

I honestly didnt realize kawhi was that dominant though in that series. 35/10 from your SF with a series winning game 7 buzzer beater.

NOBODY can hate on kawhi. He is a GOAT basketball player with almost no weakness.

Durant had Curry and others shooting great as well though. Kawhi had 7 other teammates under 45% FG because they were facing a scary ass Embiid\Butler defense.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Did he lead both teams in all statiscal categories against a 73 win team?

https://i.postimg.cc/HsKKw9y8/d0c5a097d1f5227da6abd20838bc4641.jpg

Two things about that

1) The big 3 of Embiid\Butler\Simmons all played for the entire series, one of them didn't get suspend like Draymond in game 6

2) Kawhi Leonard made the buzzer beater to win the series, he didn't need Lowry to make the biggest shot of the series for him like Lebron needed Irving to do

Also the carry job of Kawhi was still much stronger in terms of scoring, he didn't have anybody close to Irving's 27PPG

[AlternativeAcc.]

60 wins without Kawhit

God damn that Raptors team was stacked

3 other perennial allstars, great defenders, and a stacked bench

Reminds me of the 90s Bulls

[HBK_Kliq_2]

60 wins without Kawhit

God damn that Raptors team was stacked

3 other perennial allstars, great defenders, and a stacked bench

Reminds me of the 90s Bulls

Pippen and Lowry finals MVPS without Kawhi and Jordan = 0
Wade finals MVPS without Lebron = 1

[Kblaze8855]

You can ultra specific a series of stats to say anything. Try it sometime and see how easy it is to come up with some shit only Oscar and Steve Francis did or something similar. The more qualifiers the less likely possible better performances will meet them all.

[Docs Orders]

60 wins without Kawhit

God damn that Raptors team was stacked

3 other perennial allstars, great defenders, and a stacked bench

Reminds me of the 90s Bulls

This x 100


Raptors were top contenders before he arrived and got even better after he bolted

[AlternativeAcc.]

Pippen and Lowry finals MVPS without Kawhi and Jordan = 0
Wade finals MVPS without Lebron = 1

Lebron team wins without him: 20

Jordan and Kawhit wins without them: 60


Ouch

[HBK_Kliq_2]

This x 100


Raptors were top contenders before he arrived and got even better after he bolted

Bulls in 1994 without Jordan = 0 wins in conference finals
Raptors in 2018 without Kawhi = 0 wins in conference finals

[AlternativeAcc.]

Bulls in 1994 without Jordan = 0 wins in conference finals
Raptors in 2018 without Kawhi = 0 wins in conference finals
What about the Cavs and Heat without LeBron

How did they do in the playoffs?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You can ultra specific a series of stats to say anything. Try it sometime and see how easy it is to come up with some shit only Oscar and Steve Francis did or something similar. The more qualifiers the less likely possible better performances will meet them all.

Averaging 34 PPG and winning a 2nd round series is not something that a Francis does.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

What about the Cavs and Heat without LeBron

How did they do in the playoffs?

We don't know since Irving left because he didn't want to play with Lebron.

[AlternativeAcc.]

We don't know since Irving left because he didn't want to play with Lebron.
Irving played for the 2010 Cavs?

And didn't the 18 Cavs make the finals without Irving?

I must be talking to a casual fan. No wonder why you're dick riding Kawhit lol

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Lebron team wins without him: 20

Jordan and Kawhit wins without them: 60


Ouch

Regular season accomplishments don't mean anything significant on goat lists, otherwise Harden would be the goat lol

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Irving played for the 2010 Cavs?

And didn't the 18 Cavs make the finals without Irving?

I must be talking to a casual fan. No wonder why you're dick riding Kawhit lol

2010 cavs? wow lol

Lebron made a lottery team into a 2nd round team, do you want a cookie for that? Harden has been doing that his entire run with Rockets.

[Kblaze8855]

You.... did not get my point.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You.... did not get my point.

Average at least 34PPG and do it with great efficiency all while carrying your team that is shooting poorly. Eliminate 1st round teams because a lot of them shouldn't even be in the playoffs anyway. And there you have it, i don't understand why that's so specific. You're just frustrated because nobody in history has ever had a carry job at the level of 2019 Kawhi.

[Axe]

Lmao the first poster after the OP just talked about lbj in this thread then all of a sudden, the lbj dickriders came and went to feast in here, most especially one that doesn't even mention him at all. :oldlol:

Is this what they call insecurity?

[LeCroix]

So we giving credit to Kawhi who joined Raptors team that was great without him/

2018 Raptors had a top 57 all time SRS (ALL TIME)
#2 srs in 2018
1st seed
59 wins

kawhi needed all this to squeak by the 76ers? :lol

puhlease

[Axe]

At least kawhi's first-ever journey in the east playoffs culminated to a championship, unlike a certain nikka who started to hop into the west by going to the golden hollywood team but came up short of garnering the 8th seed in that conference, resulting to him missing the playoffs for the first time in 14 years...

[HBK_Kliq_2]

So we giving credit to Kawhi who joined Raptors team that was great without him/

2018 Raptors had a top 57 all time SRS (ALL TIME)
#2 srs in 2018
1st seed
59 wins

kawhi needed all this to squeak by the 76ers? :lol

puhlease

76ers were a super team after the Butler trade, that's why Kawhi had 7 teammates who shot worse then 45% FG nobody can score on a defense with Butler/Embiid besides GOAT Leonard and that's what he did. After that series, he back door swept the team with the best record in NBA and MVP, finally in the finals he matched lebron biggest accomplishment ever in 2016 and beat the 73 win core curry/Klay/dray/iggy

Kawhi did all that with a playoff scrub raptors team that couldn't even win a game out of the 2nd round in 2018

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Lmao the first poster after the OP just talked about lbj in this thread then all of a sudden, the lbj dickriders came and went to feast in here, most especially one that doesn't even mention him at all. :oldlol:

Is this what they call insecurity?

Lebron fans have been having a meltdown about Jordan ever since the last dance documentary was released. I changed the subject about Kawhi and a few of them still come off as bitter and jealous

[ArbitraryWater]

Lebron James, 2017 Round 2 vs Raptors:

-73% TS

-131 offensive rating

-36.00 ppg

-66% eFG

Second round too but only 3 teammates shot below 45%

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2017-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-raptors-vs-cavaliers.html

Absolutely obliterated Kawhi's series lol.

[LeCroix]

in this series kawhi had a 27 game score :lol

MJ has 6 series above 30
LBJ has 5

mj has 7 games above 40 game score
lbj has 6 games above 40 game score
kawhi has...zero :(

good night

[HBK_Kliq_2]

in this series kawhi had a 27 game score :lol

MJ has 6 series above 30
LBJ has 5

mj has 7 games above 40 game score
lbj has 6 games above 40 game score
kawhi has...zero :(

good night

That's just 1 stat, not enough evidence to convince anybody.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201905120TOR.html

They do single game BPM now and Game 7 vs 76ers shows kawhi carried a bunch of scrubs, three starters in negative BPM

Kawhi: 11.8
Marc Gasol: -1.7
Lowry: -1.1
Danny green: -1.2

Like I said, biggest carry job of all time. When you also take in consideration the competition of Embiid/Butler/Simmons trio? Its the GOAT series for any player in history

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Absolutely obliterated Kawhi's series lol.

Relative to competition, kawhi is better. 76ers after that Butler trade were at least equal to 2012 Pacers and most likely better.

[LeCroix]

That's just 1 stat, not enough evidence to convince anybody.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201905120TOR.html

They do single game BPM now and Game 7 vs 76ers shows kawhi carried a bunch of scrubs, three starters in negative BPM

Kawhi: 11.8
Marc Gasol: -1.7
Lowry: -1.1
Danny green: -1.2

Like I said, biggest carry job of all time. When you also take in consideration the competition of Embiid/Butler/Simmons trio? Its the GOAT series for any player in history

Game Score is just 1 stat? :lol Game Score considers ALL stats. It ranks the entire output of a single game, so it accounts for everything in the game.

Welcome to GameScore, likely the best measurement for ranking a player's performance becaues it counts all the stuff. Kawhi isnt even better then mj, let alone lebron. chill out :lol

[imdaman99]

Probably not. He did not shoot well in game 7 if I recall, but obviously had the perfect ending.
It was torturous as hell to the entire city of Philadelphia.
For that, I will root for him forever :lol thank you Kawhi :bowdown:

[Axe]

'Why some lbj trolls are insecure when kawhi won a championship during his first year in the east playoffs.'

[LeCroix]

'Why some lbj trolls are insecure when kawhi won a championship during his first year in the east playoffs.'

all he had to do was join a top 50 all time SRS without him
#1 seed
59 win team

then add him, danny green, marc gasol, and an improved siakam JUST to beat Jimmy Butler

nice job kawhi :lol

[LeCroix]

Probably not. He did not shoot well in game 7 if I recall, but obviously had the perfect ending.
It was torturous as hell to the entire city of Philadelphia.
For that, I will root for him forever :lol thank you Kawhi :bowdown:

he was a negative that game (-2) and shot like 40% he was trash

[Axe]

all he had to do was join a top 50 all time SRS without him
#1 seed
59 win team

then add him, danny green, marc gasol, and an improved siakam JUST to beat Jimmy Butler

nice job kawhi :lol
Just as i have suspected, troll toll is actually insecure about it. :lol

[warriorfan]

'Why some lbj trolls are insecure when kawhi won a championship during his first year in the east playoffs.'

B-b-but look at the game score tho!




:roll:

[HBK_Kliq_2]

he was a negative that game (-2) and shot like 40% he was trash

Game 7 Kawhi was a 11.8 BPM, scored 41 points, locked down jimmy butler and made the only buzzer beater in game 7 history. That was a goat candidate for game 7's

Clutch: check
over 40 points: check
lock down an all nba player: check

[LeCroix]

Game 7 Kawhi was a 11.8 BPM, scored 41 points, and made the only buzzer beater in game 7 history. That was a goat candidate for game 7's

Clutch: check
over 40 points: check
lock down an all nba player: check

he had some good moments no doubt but you aren't ready for top tier games or top tier game scores

game scores in the playoffs above 40

mj: 7
lbj: 6
kawhi: 0

keep it up, he is getting close

[HBK_Kliq_2]

he had some good moments no doubt but you aren't ready for top tier games or top tier game scores

game scores in the playoffs above 40

mj: 7
lbj: 6
kawhi: 0

keep it up, he is getting close

All that means is Lebron and Jordan played on worse teams and took more shots then kawhi did. I'm comparing impact and nobody had a more impactful playoff series than kawhi 2019 vs 76ers due to the carry job and competition as I've explained.

[Axe]

All that means is Lebron and Jordan played on worse teams and took more shots then kawhi did. I'm comparing impact and nobody had a more impactful playoff series than kawhi 2019 vs 76ers due to the carry job and competition as I've explained.
You're just hopeless if you hope that he would comprehend anything that you say here.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You're just hopeless if you hope that he would comprehend anything that you say here.

His entire argument is game scores lol. Barkley is #1 gamescore ever in a playoff game and Jordan beat him in 1993, so by his logic is Jordan the goat now? He beat the guy who posted the highest game score since 1983. Lebron also isn't in the highest game score playoff games until 13th and Terry Porter is ahead of him.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/game_score.html

[Axe]

His entire argument is game scores lol. Barkley is #1 gamescore ever in a playoff game and Jordan beat him in 1993, so by his logic is Jordan the goat now? He beat the guy who posted the highest game score since 1983. Lebron also isn't in the highest game score playoff games until 13th and Terry Porter is ahead of him.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/game_score.html
I mean you really have a point here but you already know the behavior of that kind of trolls would show, right.

[Gougou]

Based on 1 series it is actually the best.

Kawhi with a Raptors team that has no other superstar and a rookie coach beating Embiid/Simmons/Butler/Harris/JJ Reddick.

[ArbitraryWater]

Relative to competition, kawhi is better. 76ers after that Butler trade were at least equal to 2012 Pacers and most likely better.

sure, all about competition now.

even if you cant prove the 19 sixers being in a different tier than the 17 or 18 raptors at all.

lebron has numerous series shitting on kawhi's best, im not even sure why you feel this is a point you need to make.

you literally lost in 4/5 qualifiers YOU chose for the OP.

[Kblaze8855]

Average at least 34PPG and do it with great efficiency all while carrying your team that is shooting poorly. Eliminate 1st round teams because a lot of them shouldn't even be in the playoffs anyway. And there you have it, i don't understand why that's so specific. You're just frustrated because nobody in history has ever had a carry job at the level of 2019 Kawhi.

Nobody is frustrated over some shit only you believe is true to begin with. It’s just another great playoff series. I feel no need to go stat by stat comparing it to a gang of others. Just off the top of my head I can think of plenty of series Leonard couldn’t compare to just by shaping it to the specifics of the situation as you did. Bernard King gave the 50 win Isiah pistons 45 in I think 4 straight games and shot 60% for the series. Doesn’t mean if I ask who else played an at least 47 win team, scored 40ppg, shot 60% and won and the answer is nobody that King had the GOAT series.

How many 37/19/4 block 60% shooting series you imagine have happened? Kareem had one. Jerry West put up 46/7/6 winning a non first round series the year he took the lakers to the finals with Elgin Baylor out.

How much of a **** are you giving?

There are too many great players who did great things to make one series the goat just by setting situational minimums to whittle down the competition. Someone could easily pick any of 100 insane series from a conference finals and say “Conference finals or better...second round losers are pretenders. Only counting series vs teams that could win” and eliminate Leonard from contention.

Its an old and easy tactic that only needs using when the subject can’t stand up to scrutiny.

It was a great series. A lot of people have had great series. Leave it at that.

[ImKobe]

The FG% thing is pointless since everyone on that Raptors squad shot 3s, thus lowering the FG% for his teammates more than in any other era


Kawhi 2019 vs Sixers

35/10/4, 57.6% eFG, 63.4%TS, 121 ORTG, 27.0 GmSc

Kobe 2010 vs Suns

34/7/8, 58.9% eFG, 63.7%TS, 135 ORTG, 28.8 GmSc

Curry 2019 vs Portland

37/8/7, 60.4% eFG, 66.7%TS, 128 ORTG, 28.3 GmSc

I take these series over Kawhi's. since they did it in the Conference Finals and made way more plays for their teammates and had a bigger impact offensively.

[Rysio]

Kobe Vs the sun's 2010 jump shooting dominance.

[tontoz]

I will still go with Hakeem vs DRob as the best playoff series i ever saw from a player. Drob was the MVP and 1st team All-NBA defense and Hakeem destroyed him.



https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_2020_05_17_at_8.17.21_AM.png?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds (https://app.photobucket.com/u/tontoz/p/27328242-69c7-4e98-84c9-d46d7245e2f0)

[LeCroix]

His entire argument is game scores lol. Barkley is #1 gamescore ever in a playoff game and Jordan beat him in 1993, so by his logic is Jordan the goat now? He beat the guy who posted the highest game score since 1983. Lebron also isn't in the highest game score playoff games until 13th and Terry Porter is ahead of him.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/game_score.html

Now do Finals games :D i'll wait

[LeCroix]

sure, all about competition now.

even if you cant prove the 19 sixers being in a different tier than the 17 or 18 raptors at all.

lebron has numerous series shitting on kawhi's best, im not even sure why you feel this is a point you need to make.

you literally lost in 4/5 qualifiers YOU chose for the OP.

18 Raptors are a top 60 all time SRS team

19 PHI is not

[ArbitraryWater]

18 Raptors are a top 60 all time SRS team

19 PHI is not

2018 Raptors, 59-23 1st seed, "their year":

4-0 sweep
34 ppg, 11.3 apg, 8.3 rpg
55.3% FG
57.9% TS
30.7 GS
126 offensive rating

BOW

[LeCroix]

2018 Raptors, 59-23 1st seed, "their year":

4-0 sweep
34 ppg, 11.3 apg, 8.3 rpg
55.3% FG
57.9% TS
30.7 GS
126 offensive rating

BOW

Another day
Another slay

[HBK_Kliq_2]

sure, all about competition now.

even if you cant prove the 19 sixers being in a different tier than the 17 or 18 raptors at all.

lebron has numerous series shitting on kawhi's best, im not even sure why you feel this is a point you need to make.

you literally lost in 4/5 qualifiers YOU chose for the OP.

Anybody with half a brain knows the core of Embiid/Butler/Simmons/Harris is better than Lowry/Derozan

Nobody ever matched the requirements I asked for, they cheated by picking a 1st round series or wasn't a big enough carry job of 5+ teammates under 45% FG

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Nobody is frustrated over some shit only you believe is true to begin with. It’s just another great playoff series. I feel no need to go stat by stat comparing it to a gang of others. Just off the top of my head I can think of plenty of series Leonard couldn’t compare to just by shaping it to the specifics of the situation as you did. Bernard King gave the 50 win Isiah pistons 45 in I think 4 straight games and shot 60% for the series. Doesn’t mean if I ask who else played an at least 47 win team, scored 40ppg, shot 60% and won and the answer is nobody that King had the GOAT series.

How many 37/19/4 block 60% shooting series you imagine have happened? Kareem had one. Jerry West put up 46/7/6 winning a non first round series the year he took the lakers to the finals with Elgin Baylor out.

How much of a **** are you giving?

There are too many great players who did great things to make one series the goat just by setting situational minimums to whittle down the competition. Someone could easily pick any of 100 insane series from a conference finals and say “Conference finals or better...second round losers are pretenders. Only counting series vs teams that could win” and eliminate Leonard from contention.

Its an old and easy tactic that only needs using when the subject can’t stand up to scrutiny.

It was a great series. A lot of people have had great series. Leave it at that.

The modern era its more impressive to do because the defenses are more advanced. I'm asking from 1983-present on carry jobs that are on kawhi's level with the exception of 1st rounds and nobody was able to do it.

[Nilocon165]

'Why some lbj trolls are insecure when kawhi won a championship during his first year in the east playoffs.'
You’re the only insecure one in here trying to start a Lebron debate for no reason :oldlol:

Everyone else was just responding to OP’s question

[HBK_Kliq_2]

The FG% thing is pointless since everyone on that Raptors squad shot 3s, thus lowering the FG% for his teammates more than in any other era


Kawhi 2019 vs Sixers

35/10/4, 57.6% eFG, 63.4%TS, 121 ORTG, 27.0 GmSc

Kobe 2010 vs Suns

34/7/8, 58.9% eFG, 63.7%TS, 135 ORTG, 28.8 GmSc

Curry 2019 vs Portland

37/8/7, 60.4% eFG, 66.7%TS, 128 ORTG, 28.3 GmSc

I take these series over Kawhi's. since they did it in the Conference Finals and made way more plays for their teammates and had a bigger impact offensively.

Embiid/Butler is an elite defense duo and take laughable defenders like Lillard/Nash/Enes over them? Not a chance

Kawji shot 6 more threes then anybody on the team and his FG% still destroyed everybody else.

[LeCroix]

Embiid/Butler is an elite defense duo and take laughable defenders like Lillard/Nash/Enes over them? Not a chance

Kawji shot 6 more threes then anybody on the team and his FG% still destroyed everybody else.


Yay, kawhi finally had a 27.0 game score series

Lebron prob had like 10. Now you know what it feels like to be a bron boi

Welcome to the club

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Now do Finals games :D i'll wait

Looking at Lebrons finals wins and how most people say Lebron's peak was 2012/2013. Kawhi has a better game score in 2019 finals over both Lebron's first two finals rings and peak years.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Yay, kawhi finally had a 27.0 game score series

Lebron prob had like 10. Now you know what it feels like to be a bron boi

Welcome to the club

But Lebron has just been feasting on poor east teams. 76ers were a super team with the Embiid/Butler duo also with Simmons.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I will still go with Hakeem vs DRob as the best playoff series i ever saw from a player. Drob was the MVP and 1st team All-NBA defense and Hakeem destroyed him.





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I would say Kawhi's 2019 east finals was comparable to that. He shut down MVP Giannis and backdoor swept him.

[tpols]

Kobe's 34 ppg on 135 ORTG against the suns has to be a GOAT performance. Straight midrange dominance.

That's just absolutely filthy.

[tpols]

and Chef making billionaire paul allen recontemplate the meaning of life. :roll:

[LeCroix]

Kobe's 34 ppg on 135 ORTG against the suns has to be a GOAT performance. Straight midrange dominance.

That's just absolutely filthy.

you really think no player had a ORTG of 135 or more? :lol tpols you are so back and forth man some days you are high iq, some days...low

[LeCroix]

Looking at Lebrons finals wins and how most people say Lebron's peak was 2012/2013. Kawhi has a better game score in 2019 finals over both Lebron's first two finals rings and peak years.

just to be cute and teach you about nba stuff i looked deeper

you creamed yourself over a 27.0 gamescore playoff series by Kawhi

I looked it up to see who had game scores over 26 in a playoff series. ready?

kawhi had...one. yep

lebron had...13

[tpols]

you really think no player had a ORTG of 135 or more? :lol tpols you are so back and forth man some days you are high iq, some days...low

In Lebron's best series ever, 2016 Finals... where they suspended the starting PF, and the starting C got injured and knocked out... he had a 114 ORTG.

120 ORTG is the standard for greatness ~ magic / nash efficiency.

Kobe did 135. On higher volume.

:biggums:

GOAT.

[warriorfan]

just to be cute and teach you about nba stuff i looked deeper

you creamed yourself over a 27.0 gamescore playoff series by Kawhi

I looked it up to see who had game scores over 26 in a playoff series. ready?

kawhi had...one. yep

lebron had...13

Leonard should take notes: hog more uncontested defensive rebounds, dribble the air out of the ball for 15 seconds and then bail out past as the clock is expiring for the assist, coasting on defensive assignments so you can record more basic counting stats.

Gotta get that GameScore. :oldlol:

[ImKobe]

In Lebron's best series ever, 2016 Finals... where they suspended the starting PF, and the starting C got injured and knocked out... he had a 114 ORTG.

120 ORTG is the standard for greatness ~ magic / nash efficiency.

Kobe did 135. On higher volume.

:biggums:

GOAT.

135 really is ridiculous for a Conference Finals series, especially in 2010. I think people agree the 2009 ECF is Lebron's best statistical series... he only had a 118 ORTG in comparison. He did have a 132 ORTG against the Rators in the 2016 ECF... almost. He only averaged 26/9/7 in that series though. 126 was his best against the Warriors (2017), though that's a very one-sided series and he stat-padded hard at the end of Game 5.

[LeCroix]

In Lebron's best series ever, 2016 Finals... where they suspended the starting PF, and the starting C got injured and knocked out... he had a 114 ORTG.

120 ORTG is the standard for greatness ~ magic / nash efficiency.

Kobe did 135. On higher volume.

:biggums:

GOAT.

2016 Finals was the greatest SERIES ever, but not greatest scoring series. LeBron has plenty better series for just scoring if you want to focus on that.

Think to this

2009 lebron vs hawks

145 ORTG
91 DRTG

should i keep looking for more? :lol

[LeCroix]

135 really is ridiculous for a Conference Finals series, especially in 2010. I think people agree the 2009 ECF is Lebron's best statistical series... he only had a 118 ORTG in comparison. He did have a 132 ORTG against the Rators in the 2016 ECF... almost. He only averaged 26/9/7 in that series though. 126 was his best against the Warriors (2017), though that's a very one-sided series and he stat-padded hard at the end of Game 5.

false

lebron in 2009 had ORTG:

134 vs Pistons
145 vs Hawks

128 for the entire playoffs of 2009

you done lying? :lol what a loser

[ImKobe]

2016 Finals was the greatest SERIES ever, but not greatest scoring series. LeBron has plenty better series for just scoring if you want to focus on that.

Think to this

2009 lebron vs hawks

145 ORTG
91 DRTG

should i keep looking for more? :lol

Second round & a 47-win team.

Never hit 135 in ECF/Finals, sorry bud.

Kyrie Irving however did have a 137 ORTG against the Celtics in the 2017 ECF, when he averaged 25.8 ppg on 76.3%TS. Kevin Love also had a 137 ORTG in that series. Lebron fell short at 126.

[tpols]

2016 Finals was the greatest SERIES ever, but not greatest scoring series. LeBron has plenty better series for just scoring if you want to focus on that.

Think to this

2009 lebron vs hawks

145 ORTG
91 DRTG

should i keep looking for more? :lol

:roll: @ the hawks

Kobe did it against a legit team Nash & Amare pheonix suns. He put the nail in their coffin.

The suns wouldve won a title or 2 if they were in the mid '00s east and didnt have to face a Dirk Duncan Kobe gauntlet year in and year out.

Hawks were never winning shit.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Suns in 2010 were terrible defensively. In the bottom 10. But the best offense in the league.

[dazzer87]

These Fools comparing a 76ers team to the 2017 Craptors? :lol

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Suns in 2010 were terrible defensively. In the bottom 10. But the best offense in the league.

I feel like bragging about destroying any defense with Steve Nash is a huge stretch, especially 2010.

[LeCroix]

Second round & a 47-win team.

Never hit 135 in ECF/Finals, sorry bud.

Kyrie Irving however did have a 137 ORTG against the Celtics in the 2017 ECF, when he averaged 25.8 ppg on 76.3%TS. Kevin Love also had a 137 ORTG in that series. Lebron fell short at 126.

Lebron in 2009 vs Hawks

145 ORTG
91 DRT


Fetch me better

MUSH!

[LeCroix]

Suns in 2010 were terrible defensively. In the bottom 10. But the best offense in the league.

tpols busted a nut over Kobe's 2010 series vs Suns when Lebron had much better :lol bust a nut for Lebron too then homie

2010 Kobe vs Suns (23rd ranked defense)
135 ORTG
120 DRTG

2009 LBJ vs Hawks (12th ranked defense)
145 ORTG
91 DRTG

:roll: maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

LBJ vs 12th ranked defense
145 ORTG
91 DRTG

Kobe vs 23rd ranked defense
135 ORTG
120 DRTG

lil homie thought he found something good for Kobe :roll:

next

[LeCroix]

I feel like bragging about destroying any defense with Steve Nash is a huge stretch, especially 2010.

23rd ranked defense :lol

[LeCroix]

:roll: @ the hawks

Kobe did it against a legit team Nash & Amare pheonix suns. He put the nail in their coffin.

The suns wouldve won a title or 2 if they were in the mid '00s east and didnt have to face a Dirk Duncan Kobe gauntlet year in and year out.

Hawks were never winning shit.

nail in the coffin??? lil homie leBorn SWEPT the hawks

also hawks were 12th ranked defense, suns were 23rd

stay getting ethered tho this is fun

keep finding more 'achievements' tho. this is fun.

#KobeTierSuccessIsMediocre

[Axe]

4 cps in a row. 🤦

I wonder why the troll toll here simply hasn't been banished yet.

[LeCroix]

4 cps in a row. ��

I wonder why the troll toll here simply hasn't been banished yet.

i responded to 4 diff people

tissue for the foreign baby girl?

[Axe]

i love to spam nasty shit duh
Oh great. The perfect recipe for a B

[HBK_Kliq_2]

This deserves a bump after these events:

- Siakam had a 87 offensive rating in 2020 playoffs and a negative BPM

- Butler with two triple doubles in finals out playing LeBron in wins and butler averaging 27PPG in 3-0 lead vs Giannis 2020 playoffs and Butler was arguably the best player in the world

- Kawhi had to guard Butler in game 7. LeBron is always scared to guard Butler and makes Anthony Davis or Kuzma do it instead.

[TheCorporation]

Did he lead both teams in all statiscal categories against a 73 win team?

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K.O.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

K.O.

Draymond

[SouBeachTalents]

His series against the Nuggets was better imo

[HBK_Kliq_2]

His series against the Nuggets was better imo

He led every player in GmSc that series as well. Fair argument from you. It was a miracle it even went 7 games with Harrell on Jokic. I would say Butler is a better player then anybody on Nuggets though

[TheCorporation]

Draymond


Technical foul

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Technical foul

They are not the 73 team without Draymond. He's their defensive anchor, playmaker, floor general, leader, heart and soul. Curry/Klay are just another Lillard/CJ without ALPHA Draymond next to them. Curry and Klay are these little puppies, Draymond is a gigantic pitbull.

Kawhi beat curry/Dray playing every game and Klay missing 5 quarters. That's the best non Durant warriors team. They also didn't have Harrison Barnes constantly shooting them in the foot.

[TheCorporation]

They are not the 73 team without Draymond. He's their defensive anchor, playmaker, floor general, leader, heart and soul. Curry/Klay are just another Lillard/CJ without ALPHA Draymond next to them. Curry and Klay are these little puppies, Draymond is a gigantic pitbull.

Kawhi beat curry/Dray playing every game and Klay missing 5 quarters. That's the best non Durant warriors team. They also didn't have Harrison Barnes constantly shooting them in the foot.

All that for a technical foul?

Why did he technical foul? Do you not know basic NBA rules?

[SATAN]

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