Jordan, LeBron, Kareem All-NBA Players in Finals Compared

[Roundball_Rock]

This looks at all-NBA players on LeBron, Jordan, and Kareem’s teams as well as what the opposition had. I included all the finals for LeBron, Jordan but cut Kareem off at 85’ since by 87’ he no longer was an elite player (86’ was his last elite season).

LeBron’s Teams

2007: 1 each (LeBron, Duncan)
2011: 2 versus 1 (LeBron, Wade and Dirk)
2012: 2 each (LeBron, Wade and Durant, Westbrook)
2013: 2 each (LeBron, Wade and Duncan, Parker)
2014: 1 each (LeBron and Parker)
2015: 2 each (LeBron, Irving and Curry, Thompson)
2016: 1 versus 3 (LeBron and Curry, Thompson, Green)
2017: 1 versus 3 (LeBron and Durant, Curry, Green)
2018: 1 versus 2 (LeBron and Durant, Curry)
Totals: 13 for LeBron’s teams, 17 for the opposition

This started out even but by his second stint in Cleveland it became lopsided in favor of the opposition. In total, LeBron’s teams had more all-NBA players once while the opposition had the edge three times. Since Irving played only four quarters of the 2015 finals, the opposition effectively had the advantage in each of LeBron’s last four finals. If you exclude Irving, LeBron's teams had a 12-17 deficit.

Jordan’s Teams

1991: 1 versus 2 (Jordan and Magic, Worthy)
1992: 2 versus 1 (Jordan, Pippen and Drexler)
1993: 2 versus 1 (Jordan, Pippen and Barkely)
1996: 2 each (Jordan, Pippen and Payton, Kemp)
1997: 2 each (Jordan, Pippen and Malone, Stockton)
1998: 2 versus 1 (Jordan, Pippen and Malone)
Totals: 11 for Jordan’s teams, 9 for the opposition

Jordan’s teams had the edge in three of his six finals and parity in two more. Only in 91’ did the opposing team have the edge and Worthy went down in Game 4 of the series.

Kareem’s Teams

1971: 2 versus 1 (Kareem, Oscar and G. Johnson)
1974: 1 each (Kareem and Havlicek)
1980: 1 each (Kareem and Erving)
1982: 1 each (Magic and Erving)
1983: 2 each (Kareem, Magic and Moses, Erving)
1984: 2 versus 1 (Kareem, Magic and Bird)
1985: 2 versus 1 (Kareem, Magic and Bird)
Total: 11 for Kareem’s teams, 8 for the opposition

Here it basically was even until 1984 (7-6), when Kareem was 37 years old by the playoffs.

[warriorfan]

This looks at all-NBA players on LeBron, Jordan, and Kareem’s teams as well as what the opposition had. I included all the finals for LeBron, Jordan but cut Kareem off at 85’ since by 87’ he no longer was an elite player (86’ was his last elite season).

LeBron’s Teams

2007: 1 each (LeBron, Duncan)
2011: 2 versus 1 (LeBron, Wade and Dirk)
2012: 2 each (LeBron, Wade and Durant, Westbrook)
2013: 2 each (LeBron, Wade and Duncan, Parker)
2014: 1 each (LeBron and Parker)
2015: 2 each (LeBron, Irving and Curry, Thompson)
2016: 1 versus 3 (LeBron and Curry, Thompson, Green)
2017: 1 versus 3 (LeBron and Durant, Curry, Green)
2018: 1 versus 2 (LeBron and Durant, Curry)
Totals: 13 for LeBron’s teams, 17 for the opposition

This started out even but by his second stint in Cleveland it became lopsided in favor of the opposition. In total, LeBron’s teams had more all-NBA players once while the opposition had the edge three times. Since Irving played only four quarters of the 2015 finals, the opposition effectively had the advantage in each of LeBron’s last four finals. If you exclude Irving, LeBron's teams had a 12-17 deficit.

Jordan’s Teams

1991: 1 versus 2 (Jordan and Magic, Worthy)
1992: 2 versus 1 (Jordan, Pippen and Drexler)
1993: 2 versus 1 (Jordan, Pippen and Barkely)
1996: 2 each (Jordan, Pippen and Payton, Kemp)
1997: 2 each (Jordan, Pippen and Malone, Stockton)
1998: 2 versus 1 (Jordan, Pippen and Malone)
Totals: 11 for Jordan’s teams, 9 for the opposition

Jordan’s teams had the edge in three of his six finals and parity in two more. Only in 91’ did the opposing team have the edge and Worthy went down in Game 4 of the series.

Kareem’s Teams

1971: 2 versus 1 (Kareem, Oscar and G. Johnson)
1974: 1 each (Kareem and Havlicek)
1980: 1 each (Kareem and Erving)
1982: 1 each (Magic and Erving)
1983: 2 each (Kareem, Magic and Moses, Erving)
1984: 2 versus 1 (Kareem, Magic and Bird)
1985: 2 versus 1 (Kareem, Magic and Bird)
Total: 11 for Kareem’s teams, 8 for the opposition

Here it basically was even until 1984 (7-6), when Kareem was 37 years old by the playoffs.

Low iq post with shitty criteria based on arbitrary opinions from ignorant voters.

Thanks for trying.

[Roundball_Rock]

warriorfan/knicksman, all the available evidence will show the same thing. :lol

[warriorfan]

warriorfan/knicksman, all the available evidence will show the same thing. :lol

That you are an autistic f.uck? Yes the evidence is overwhelming.

[Roundball_Rock]

Do you have information contrary to the OP?

[LeCroix]

Do you have information contrary to the OP?

hes a chubby angry guy on welfare. he posted a picture of his apartment that was 100 sq feet and he lives in thailand. hard to talk with him. but i can respond to op!

great data and great find.

it shows mj always had the edge, never won as a deficit. never won as a 3 to 1 deficit like 2016 lebron. damn shame...weak rings

[Roundball_Rock]

great data and great find.

it shows mj always had the edge, never won as a deficit. never won as a 3 to 1 deficit like 2016 lebron. damn shame...weak rings

:cheers:

So the SRS data showed MJ had the edge, LeBron the deficit (KAJ's teams were roughly equal to the comp). All-NBA shows MJ with an edge. What do you think the HOF comparison between these players will show? :lol

[Duncan21formvp]

He lost to the Mavs and Spurs when those teams had only 1 allstar and Lebron had 3 allstars on the squad and he got dominated. He lost to Dwight Howard a career loser with HCA and brought America a bronze medal twice.
Kareem lost with HCA to a team below .500 and got swept with HCA as the #1 seed as well.

[Roundball_Rock]

Misleading an arbitrary data points that do not speak to the OP. So you are conceding that LeBron had less all-NBA help compared to his competition while MJ had more relative to his opponents?

[Cyrus334]

Since we're cherry picking:

https://gfycat.com/briefoldburro

[red1]

round_ball rock boosting the IQ of this board with his excellent pippen analysis and irrefutable GOAT analysis. :applause:

[Roundball_Rock]

round_ball rock boosting the IQ of this board with his excellent pippen analysis and irrefutable GOAT analysis. :applause:

:cheers:


Since we're cherry picking:


Cherry picking what? This is a list of the all-NBA players in each side in every finals MJ, LeBron played in and for KAJ through 1985.

It appears you were going to post a link or image. Nothing shows BTW.