Kblaze8855
05-19-2020, 07:44 AM
Ive always felt tiers were the best way to make a list of greats since they are all so accomplished you just end up deciding how to bend things to suit your argument. But I dont think we need anything as cut and dry as specific tiers on this one. What im asking is which groups of players arent different enough for you to argue if someone ranks them in any order. For example....
I dont care which of the following players you rank a little higher:
David Robinson
Dirk
Kevin Durant
Karl Malone
Oscar
Elgin Baylor
KG
I have an opinion on which of them is best. A fairly strong opinion on which of them should be last. But....its a thin enough margin for me not to think youre an idiot for whatever order you place them. I likely wont agree. But I wont feel a need to pull it aside for mocking.
That said....this is my rough draft on a "Bout the same" ranking.
Jordan
Russell
Kareem
I would accept any of them as 1, 2, or 3 and not fight about it.
Wilt
Bird
Magic
Formerly parts of my untouchable 6 but I probably would wanna argue a little if you definitively put one of them over the first list and gave no wiggle room so ill make it two.
7-13 in whatever order you want. You wont likely get me fighting about it.
Duncan
Hakeem
Kobe
Shaq
Doctor J
Lebron
Oscar
Doc and Oscar the obvious two most of ISH wont accept. But I dont care what most of ISH accepts. Put any of those players at #7...or #13...if youre doing it in a respectful way? Id probably let it go.
Longest one:
David Robinson
Dirk
Kevin Durant
Jerry West
Pettit(im in no position to argue with those who knew him well....they rank him alongside themselves on these lists)
Karl Malone
Moses Malone
Barkley
Elgin Baylor
KG
Isiah Thomas
Steph
Wade
Hondo
Which I guess means id accept any of that last list from 14 to 27th all time though it feels like a long run to be a single group. I was gonna throw on a few more to make it 30 but I cant think of anyone else I wouldnt raise an eyebrow at. Maybe Mikan? Hes the hardest to rank really. You kinda have to pull an arbitrary number out of your ass and count some of his accomplishments or admit you just dont count him at all. Im choosing to cop out and say I just dont know whats fair.
As for the rest....its not a fact they are better than everyone not listed. Probably 50 more guys who would look about as good as them on one court. Bernard King in his prime isnt gonna be regularly outplayed by some of those guys...and he might not be top 100 career wise. YOu could argue Rick Barry was better than Hondo in the same league. Isiah isnt just miles better than Nash or Chris Paul. So its not set in stone individually. But those are about the only people I could see ranked as high as they are there and not feel a need to ask "But what about_____?".
I dont care which of the following players you rank a little higher:
David Robinson
Dirk
Kevin Durant
Karl Malone
Oscar
Elgin Baylor
KG
I have an opinion on which of them is best. A fairly strong opinion on which of them should be last. But....its a thin enough margin for me not to think youre an idiot for whatever order you place them. I likely wont agree. But I wont feel a need to pull it aside for mocking.
That said....this is my rough draft on a "Bout the same" ranking.
Jordan
Russell
Kareem
I would accept any of them as 1, 2, or 3 and not fight about it.
Wilt
Bird
Magic
Formerly parts of my untouchable 6 but I probably would wanna argue a little if you definitively put one of them over the first list and gave no wiggle room so ill make it two.
7-13 in whatever order you want. You wont likely get me fighting about it.
Duncan
Hakeem
Kobe
Shaq
Doctor J
Lebron
Oscar
Doc and Oscar the obvious two most of ISH wont accept. But I dont care what most of ISH accepts. Put any of those players at #7...or #13...if youre doing it in a respectful way? Id probably let it go.
Longest one:
David Robinson
Dirk
Kevin Durant
Jerry West
Pettit(im in no position to argue with those who knew him well....they rank him alongside themselves on these lists)
Karl Malone
Moses Malone
Barkley
Elgin Baylor
KG
Isiah Thomas
Steph
Wade
Hondo
Which I guess means id accept any of that last list from 14 to 27th all time though it feels like a long run to be a single group. I was gonna throw on a few more to make it 30 but I cant think of anyone else I wouldnt raise an eyebrow at. Maybe Mikan? Hes the hardest to rank really. You kinda have to pull an arbitrary number out of your ass and count some of his accomplishments or admit you just dont count him at all. Im choosing to cop out and say I just dont know whats fair.
As for the rest....its not a fact they are better than everyone not listed. Probably 50 more guys who would look about as good as them on one court. Bernard King in his prime isnt gonna be regularly outplayed by some of those guys...and he might not be top 100 career wise. YOu could argue Rick Barry was better than Hondo in the same league. Isiah isnt just miles better than Nash or Chris Paul. So its not set in stone individually. But those are about the only people I could see ranked as high as they are there and not feel a need to ask "But what about_____?".