What would it take for everyone to respect the Virus?

[Walk on Water]

I don't get it. Just a couple of months ago, we had almost no deaths in the United States. Trump was trying to save the people on the cruise and he thought there would be no deaths. Now we are approaching 100,000 deaths in a very short time. Remember people kept saying more die from the flu? That was short lived and the number just keeps growing. States are starting to open up, only because they are giving up on containing the virus. Not because the virus has went away or went down rapidly.

You have people still saying that the virus is nothing and is just a political stunt. Somehow the numbers are skewed. You sure about that? Even if 10 percent of every death was skewed, that doesn't change anything. And a doctor can lose his license for falsely marking someone down as Covid. If a person died with covid, most likely they died of covid. Why focus on the minority of cases when the majority of cases are accurate?

Lastly, does EVERYTHING have to be a conspiracy? So many people are dead because of Covid. There is going to be another wave of the Covid this Fall and it's going to be much worse than this wave. At that point are you going to respect it or are you gonna say it's less than the flu? Life may not ever return to normal and you can keep on denying it all you want. The states are trying to reopen right now and it's likely going to be short lived as this virus is only just getting started. When will you respect it?

When will you accept the fact that we would have done so much better if not for Trump and his bad decisions? Do you realize it's not hard for a 6 year old to understand what is going on? Conspiracy theories are for losers.

[Nanners]

Remember when the lockdowns began and we were told that the virus was going to kill 2.2m americans (or more)? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/us/coronavirus-fatality-rate-white-house.html

Remember how hospitals were incentivized to list patients as suffering from covid? Remember how hospitals were incentivized to put covid patients on ventilators? - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/

Remember how states like Colorado are significantly reducing their death totals after looking at whether covid was actually responsible in the deaths of individuals who tested positive for the virus? - https://www.denverpost.com/2020/05/15/colorado-covid-coronavirus-counting-deaths-fatalities/

Remember how the top 5 nations for covid deaths are all wealthy western nations - the US, UK, Italy, Spain and France... these 5 wealthy countries are responsible for 70% of all covid deaths worldwide, despite being home to just 7% of the worlds population...meanwhile, China (the home of the outbreak) and India have had 0.02% of all covid deaths despite being home to almost ~40% of the worlds people. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/

What would it take for me to "respect" the virus? For starters, the published numbers (that supposedly prove how threatening the virus is) could be something that remotely resembles logical/believable

Anyway, its hilarious that you would attempt to smear the people who actually cite facts and numbers and have awareness of reality as "conspiracy theorists"... if conspiracy theories are for losers, then why are you spewing them all over this dumb ass thread?

[ZenMaster]

I don't get it. Just a couple of months ago, we had almost no deaths in the United States. Trump was trying to save the people on the cruise and he thought there would be no deaths. Now we are approaching 100,000 deaths in a very short time. Remember people kept saying more die from the flu? That was short lived and the number just keeps growing. States are starting to open up, only because they are giving up on containing the virus. Not because the virus has went away or went down rapidly.

At the moment there is no difference in the data between dead from covid and death with covid. It's all just one big number, presented by people all over the world as dead from covid, same as you just did here.


You have people still saying that the virus is nothing and is just a political stunt. Somehow the numbers are skewed. You sure about that? Even if 10 percent of every death was skewed, that doesn't change anything. And a doctor can lose his license for falsely marking someone down as Covid. If a person died with covid, most likely they died of covid. Why focus on the minority of cases when the majority of cases are accurate?

I hardly see anyone saying anywhere that the virus is nothing and just a political stunt. It's definitely something, but probably not something our whole lives should be about.

The numbers are definitely being skewed. As Nanners mention, rates of deaths for other respiratory diseases have plummeted, and as for the regular flu, they've simply stopped releasing numbers on it - like it doesn't even exist any longer.
Combine that with the fact that doctors have been advised to label a death as covid19 only on the base of symptoms shown. Here it's important to realize, that covid19 share symptoms with basically any respiratory disease we know of.


Lastly, does EVERYTHING have to be a conspiracy? So many people are dead because of Covid. There is going to be another wave of the Covid this Fall and it's going to be much worse than this wave. At that point are you going to respect it or are you gonna say it's less than the flu? Life may not ever return to normal and you can keep on denying it all you want. The states are trying to reopen right now and it's likely going to be short lived as this virus is only just getting started. When will you respect it?

Most certainly it doesn't, and most things aren't a conspiracy. Neither is covid19, it really does exist and it really does kill people. But the opportunity to make it seem worse than it is is certainly there, the motivation being to sway public opinion in order not to get Trump re-elected.
That's why when you see all of the sudden that out of nowhere, they've decided since March 30th to count all positive cases as individual cases as well in Virginia, and then extend their lockdown on the basis of those new numbers, it's highly suspicious.


When will you accept the fact that we would have done so much better if not for Trump and his bad decisions? Do you realize it's not hard for a 6 year old to understand what is going on? Conspiracy theories are for losers.

People who discredit everything without any critical thinking are the real losers. I find it fascinating to read the thoughts of people highly affected by mainstream media, so I want to thank you for posting them here.

[n00bie]

There's actually reports out that many states are faking their data so that they can reopen. Theres actually more cases and deaths than being reported. All these "conspiracy theorists" out there don't realize that actually downplaying this virus IS the real conspiracy.

Only way these conspiracy theorists will wake up from their delusional dream is if the virus hits their home.

[Nanners]

There's actually reports out that many states are faking their data so that they can reopen. Theres actually more cases and deaths than being reported. All these "conspiracy theorists" out there don't realize that actually downplaying this virus IS the real conspiracy.

Only way these conspiracy theorists will wake up from their delusional dream is if the virus hits their home.

:oldlol:

I welcome the virus into my home. Me and my family are not 60+ or morbidly obese or any of the other risk factors that raise the mortality of this virus from 0.01% to 0.1%... and I would much rather generate my antibodies the natural way than allow "Doctor Bill" to stick a needle full of his rushed and untested vaccine into my arm...

[Doomsday Dallas]

Remember how the top 5 nations for covid deaths are all wealthy western nations - the US, UK, Italy, Spain and France... these 5 wealthy countries are responsible for 70% of all covid deaths worldwide, despite being home to just 7% of the worlds population...meanwhile, China (the home of the outbreak) and India have had 0.02% of all covid deaths despite being home to almost ~40% of the worlds people. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/

anybody attempting to explain this is talking out of their ass.

This makes no sense... none.

[Patrick Chewing]

Remember when the lockdowns began and we were told that the virus was going to kill 2.2m americans (or more)?

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AnguishedCoarseFlamingo-size_restricted.gif

[n00bie]

:oldlol:

I welcome the virus into my home. Me and my family are not 60+ or morbidly obese or any of the other risk factors that raise the mortality of this virus from 0.01% to 0.1%... and I would much rather generate my antibodies the natural way than allow "Doctor Bill" to stick a needle full of his rushed and untested vaccine into my arm...

Can you please do us a favor? Go lick some hospital door handles and try to get infected for insidehoops research purposes. Once infected, start a thread and post daily to document what it's like living with the virus. You'll end all the debates here and bring peace to the insidehoops community.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Remember how the top 5 nations for covid deaths are all wealthy western nations - the US, UK, Italy, Spain and France... these 5 wealthy countries are responsible for 70% of all covid deaths worldwide, despite being home to just 7% of the worlds population...meanwhile, China (the home of the outbreak) and India have had 0.02% of all covid deaths despite being home to almost ~40% of the worlds people.


Again I say.... it makes no zero sense.

Would love for somebody to explain it though.

[Nanners]

Again I say.... it makes no zero sense.

Would love for somebody to explain it though.

apparently the disease only targets wealthy white people?

It gets even crazier - China + India + Africa are home to 4 billion people, thats more than the entire rest of the planet combined... and yet these 3 regions combined have less than 10k total covid deaths

Meanwhile, the state of New Jersey is home to 8.8 million people and they supposedly have 10.5k covid deaths.

[n00bie]

apparently the disease only targets wealthy white people?

China + India + Africa are home to 4 billion people, thats more than the entire rest of the planet combined... and yet these 3 regions combined have less than 10k total covid deaths

Meanwhile, the state of New Jersey is home to 8.8 million people and they supposedly have 10.5k covid deaths.

I'd say that's because the other countries you mentioned are taking the virus more serious. China welds your doors shut during a lock down. Police in India were beating people with sticks if they left their homes for non essentials.

America... is crying about covering their face when they go out for walks.

[Nanners]

I'd say that's because the other countries you mentioned are taking the virus more serious. China welds your doors shut during a lock down. Police in India were beating people with sticks if they left their homes for non essentials.

America... is crying about covering their face when they go out for walks.

:oldlol:

Yeah China takes things so much more seroiusly... that explains why virtually the entire US has been locked down for 2 months, while in China it was only the Wuhan region that had any sort of significant lockdown whatsoever. Anyway, if you want a country that tells you what to do and supposedly takes this stuff "seriously" then maybe you should just move to China?

Have you ever visited India? Because I have... and the idea of Indian police enforcing any kind of meaningful lockdown is comical. This a nation where tens of millions live in slums and scavenge a living on the streets of cities like Mumbai and Delhi, a nation where peoples daily routine includes the most crowded busses/trains and markets you can imagine...good luck doing any kind of "social distancing" anywhere in India. FFS less than half of Indian households have a refrigerator, most folks go grocery shopping every day in India.

And thank you for completely ignoring Africa, home to 1.2 BILLION people (including hundreds of thousands of chinese workers). It totally makes sense that an entire continent with 1.2B residents has half of the covid deaths of Michigan (which has 10m residents).

[n00bie]

:oldlol:

Yeah China takes things so much more seroiusly... that explains why virtually the entire US has been locked down for 2 months, while in China it was only the Wuhan region that had any sort of significant lockdown whatsoever. Anyway, if you want a country that tells you what to do and supposedly takes this stuff "seriously" then maybe you should just move to China?

Have you ever visited India? Because I have... and the idea of Indian police enforcing any kind of meaningful lockdown is comical. This a nation where tens of millions live in slums and scavenge a living on the streets of cities like Mumbai and Delhi, a nation where peoples daily routine includes the most crowded busses/trains and markets you can imagine...good luck doing any kind of "social distancing" anywhere in India. FFS less than half of Indian households have a refrigerator, most folks go grocery shopping every day in India.

And thank you for completely ignoring Africa, home to 1.2 BILLION people (including hundreds of thousands of chinese workers). It totally makes sense that an entire continent with 1.2B residents has half of the covid deaths of Michigan (which has 10m residents).

China shut down an entire city because of 5 new cases. You telling me if we did that here, we'd end up with 1.5 million cases?

And their shut downs isnt like ours. You cant leave your homes.

There are countless videos of indian police beating and arresting people that were on the streets during the lock down. All you need to do is a Google search. But of course even if you find these reports or videos, it's probably a conspiracy for you.

Africans are scared shltless of this virus. They learned what conspiracy theories can do after the Ebola outbreak.

Again, only America has your mentality. But if you're not scared at all, please get infected and document it so that we can know the truth. It's your chance to prove me wrong.

[~primetime~]

yep China is actually easy to explain...they fear their Gov 100x more than we do...they OBEY...all of Wuhan was locked down, if we did that to NY the numbers would be much less.


Truth is 'freedom' and pandemics don't mix well...do I want to adopt China's gov? No so you can spare me the 'move to China if they're so great' line.

[~primetime~]

also wealthy would get this easier than the poor because wealthy people travel

[Phong]

There are countless videos of indian police beating and arresting people that were on the streets during the lock down. All you need to do is a Google search. But of course even if you find these reports or videos, it's probably a conspiracy for you. You found a few videos of cops beating people and that's all it takes for you to think that people who live in slums can abide to social distancing and hygiene rules?


Social distancing is a privilege of the middle class. For India's slum dwellers, it will be impossible (https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/30/india/india-coronavirus-social-distancing-intl-hnk/index.html)

...74 million people -- one sixth of the urban population -- who live cheek by jowl in the country's slums, social distancing is going to be physically and economically impossible.

"We all go outdoors to a common toilet and there are 20 families that live just near my small house." [...] In Dharavi in Mumbai, for example, there is only one toilet per 1,440 residents.

Water is one of the biggest reasons India's poor need to leave home every day. Sia, a slum dweller and migrant construction worker in Gurugram, near New Delhi, wakes up at 5 a.m. and defies Modi's call to stay indoors. The reason? She needs to walk 100 meters (328 feet) to a water tank that serves her slum.

[Nanners]

China shut down an entire city because of 5 new cases. You telling me if we did that here, we'd end up with 1.5 million cases?

And their shut downs isnt like ours. You cant leave your homes.

:oldlol:

No doubt China wants us to believe that they shut down an entire city because of 5 cases, just like they want us to believe that the virus never spread to Shanghai, Bejing, Hong Kong, or any other major city in the country of the original outbreak... apparently the virus only spreads after it leaves China and enters a western country.

Shanghai is the third largest city on the planet. It is ~500m from Wuhan, and the cities are connected by dozens of bullet trains and daily flights. Wuhan was not shutdown until a month after the virus was originally detected, and Shanghai was never shutdown... and yet Shanghai has just 7 total deaths, while NYC has ~22k... makes total sense.


There are countless videos of indian police beating and arresting people that were on the streets during the lock down. All you need to do is a Google search. But of course even if you find these reports or videos, it's probably a conspiracy for you.

There are countless videos of americans beating the shit out of eachother over popeyes fried chicken sandwiches... obviously that doesnt mean you are going to get your ass kicked for going into a popeyes.

Have you been to India? I have. I have relatives who are there right at this moment. While the Indian government ordered their people to lockdown, in the vast majority of the country this lockdown is not enforceable, and the vast majority of indian cops are not interested in trying to enforce it in the first place. Indian cops are probably the laziest on the planet, its borderline impossible to get them to take a report over a serious crime like assault or rape... yet you think they are out there busting heads because a nation with millions of impoverished beggars arent all cowering indoors? lol


Africans are scared shltless of this virus. They learned what conspiracy theories can do after the Ebola outbreak.

Again, you speak like a westerner who has no ****ing clue what life is actually like in the developing world. The recent Ebola outbreak killed ~28k Africans in 3 small west african countries... meanwhile half a million africans die from tuberculosis every single year. The idea that people in Nigeria or Ethiopia or Kenya are cowering in place because they're scared of covid because of ebola might be the single most laughably retarded claim you have posted in this thread.

[Nanners]

also wealthy would get this easier than the poor because wealthy people travel

Right... thats why in the US the rich are doing just fine while the poor are the ones who are dying from it https://theconversation.com/covid-19-is-hitting-black-and-poor-communities-the-hardest-underscoring-fault-lines-in-access-and-care-for-those-on-margins-135615

[~primetime~]

So what do you think the reason is Nanners? The deaths are absolutely there...

[Nanners]

So what do you think the reason is Nanners? The deaths are absolutely there...

The deaths absolutely arent there.

If you look at the numbers by country, its clear that the US and the four western european nations with massive death tolls that are the outliers here, not the entire rest of the planet.

In the US, the numbers are being exaggerated because we shut down the supposedly "non-essential" treatments and services that hospitals provide, while offering cash incentives to them for diagnosing and treating people for covid... of course they are going to find huge numbers of covid deaths, ffs they would blame the deaths on bigfoot or aliens if we were paying them to do that.

Why do you think that the number of influenza deaths dropped to virtually zero at the same moment the covid supposedly exploded? The same applies for other lung conditions like emphysema/COPD, why did these ailments (that typically kill ~140k americans each year) drop to near zero the same time that the corona outbreak began?

[Doomsday Dallas]

"Social distancing is a privilege of the middle class. For India's slum dwellers, it will be impossible"

- CNN



but since the police in India beat people in the streets... the virus will be contained there.

yea, makes sense

[~primetime~]

The deaths absolutely arent there.

If you look at the numbers by country, its clear that the US and the four western european nations with massive death tolls that are the outliers here, not the entire rest of the planet.

In the US, the numbers are being exaggerated because we shut down the supposedly "non-essential" treatments and services that hospitals provide, while offering cash incentives to them for diagnosing and treating people for covid... of course they are going to find huge numbers of covid deaths, ffs they would blame the deaths on bigfoot or aliens if we were paying them to do that.

Why do you think that the number of influenza deaths dropped to virtually zero at the same moment the covid supposedly exploded? The same applies for other lung conditions like emphysema/COPD, why did these ailments (that typically kill ~140k americans each year) drop to near zero the same time that the corona outbreak began?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/27/upshot/coronavirus-deaths-new-york-city.html

^^^ that is TOTAL deaths

influenza season takes place in fall and winter...

[Nanners]

"Social distancing is a privilege of the middle class. For India's slum dwellers, it will be impossible"

- CNN



but since the police in India beat people in the streets... the virus will be contained there.

yea, makes sense

TBH im impressed that anyone making videos was able to find an indian cop who was willing to swing his beat stick at all... these cops are a level of lazy and apathetic that does not exist in the US... and they arent going to waste their energy on pointless shit like enforcing social distancing

https://www.hindustantimes.com/rf/image_size_960x540/HT/p2/2018/11/05/Pictures/metro_76e4fadc-e0f7-11e8-b876-ee7dab6cad6d.JPG

This slum outside of mumbai has ~700k residents and one of the highest population densities of any spot on the entire planet... do you think people here are "social distancing" or regularly washing their hands? This slum has 1 toilet for every ~500 residents... good luck finding any running water.

https://im.rediff.com/money/2014/jan/13rail.jpg

Heres a typical Indian train

https://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/full/public/2018/09/11/overcrowded-bus.jpg

Heres an Indian bus

If theres any nation on this planet that is primed to have devastating death tolls from viruses, it would be India for sure... so why hasnt covid beaten them down yet?

[~primetime~]

India is on the rise...so who knows, maybe it will be big there

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

[Nanners]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/27/upshot/coronavirus-deaths-new-york-city.html

^^^ that is TOTAL deaths

influenza season takes place in fall and winter...

*and spring

Influenza shares its season with Corona

The media has not done a good job of explaining this (intentionally no doubt), but Corona viruses are not some new thing we've never seen. Prior to covid, there were already ~30 known strains of Corona virus, and about 25% of the time a person catches a "cold" its due to a Corona infection.

[~primetime~]

*and spring

Influenza shares its season with Corona

The media has not done a good job of explaining this (intentionally no doubt), but Corona viruses are not some new thing we've never seen. Prior to covid, there were already ~30 known strains of Corona virus, and about 25% of the time a person catches a "cold" its due to a Corona infection.

the deaths are real...something is actually killing more people than previous years...6x more people in NY during April

[Nanners]

India is on the rise...so who knows, maybe it will be big there

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

Maybe so... but right now India has 1/20th the deaths of the US, despite having 4x the population (packed into a much smaller country)... and thats in spite of the US being the wealthiest country on the planet with sanitation and hygiene thats lightyears ahead of most parts of India

[Nanners]

the deaths are real...something is actually killing more people than previous years...6x more people in NY during April

Do you have a link for this?

[~primetime~]

Do you have a link for this?

again?

okay here:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/27/upshot/coronavirus-deaths-new-york-city.html

[~primetime~]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-death-toll-total.html

^^^ here are death totals vs previous years for all states with high covid numbers

[Doomsday Dallas]

If theres any nation on this planet that is primed to have devastating death tolls from viruses, it would be India for sure... so why hasnt covid beaten them down yet?


Must be something in the curry they eat.

Some of these spices nowadays have serious health benefits.

[Nanners]

again?

okay here:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/27/upshot/coronavirus-deaths-new-york-city.html

Crazy

If NYC was a country, it would be ranked #6 worldwide for covid deaths. You could take all of the deaths in China + India + Africa, then double them, and you'd have a group of 8 billion people that still have less deaths than the NYC deaths.

The only possible explanations for this (imo) are that the NYC data is flawed, the entire rest of the planets data is flawed, or there is something unique going on in NYC which is dramatically inflating their death count.

[Phong]

TBH im impressed that anyone making videos was able to find an indian cop who was willing to swing his beat stick at all... these cops are a level of lazy and apathetic that does not exist in the US... and they arent going to waste their energy on pointless shit like enforcing social distancing

https://www.hindustantimes.com/rf/image_size_960x540/HT/p2/2018/11/05/Pictures/metro_76e4fadc-e0f7-11e8-b876-ee7dab6cad6d.JPG

This slum outside of mumbai has ~700k residents and one of the highest population densities of any spot on the entire planet... do you think people here are "social distancing" or regularly washing their hands? This slum has 1 toilet for every ~500 residents... good luck finding any running water.

https://im.rediff.com/money/2014/jan/13rail.jpg

Heres a typical Indian train

https://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/full/public/2018/09/11/overcrowded-bus.jpg

Heres an Indian bus

If theres any nation on this planet that is primed to have devastating death tolls from viruses, it would be India for sure... so why hasnt covid beaten them down yet? Obviously because the cops have used batons to beat covid out of people first.

[Nanners]

Must be something in the curry they eat.

Some of these spices nowadays have serious health benefits.

The spices do have health benefits. Tumeric and Ginger are both extremely common in Indian food, and there are health benefits to both of these spices.

But more importantly, bacteria does not like capsaicin (thats the chemical that makes spicy food taste spicy). This is why the general level of spiciness of food seems to be correlated to the level of civilization/sanitation in a given area...over time, people add or subtract spicyness from their food as required by their surroundings.

In India, most foods are insanely spicy to a western palette... yet despite the capsaicin helping things, most western stomachs get murdered by the bacteria anyway. The last time I was in India my stomach was upset for like 50% of the entire trip.

[ZenMaster]

the deaths are real...something is actually killing more people than previous years...6x more people in NY during April

In most places in the world where covid is bad, it's because of two things.

1) The virus getting into nursing homes.

2) A lot of people living in small areas, who in more cases than the general public do not follow social distancing and shutdown measures.

For Europe, that unfortunately means immigrant areas, like in Denmark where immigrants are represented 2 to 1 compared to their general volume in the population. This is a huge factor in Sweden as well, both are actually.

We know that Cuomo ordered for covid19 patients to be quartered in nursing homes, but I don't know if #2 holds true for NY as well.

Could these two factors be what's happening in New York?

[Nanners]

2) A lot of people living in small areas, who in more cases than the general public do not follow social distancing and shutdown measures.


India would be getting absolutely murdered right now if population density was an important factor in all of this... Same with Tokyo, Shanghai, Hong Kong... and several cities in Africa and the SE Asia Pacific (Indonesia and the Philippines in particular)


We know that Cuomo ordered for covid19 patients to be quartered in nursing homes

This is the most logical explanation I have seen to explain the absurd numbers in NY

[ZenMaster]

India would be getting absolutely murdered right now if population density was an important factor in all of this... Same with Tokyo, Shanghai, Hong Kong... and several cities in Africa and the SE Asia Pacific (Indonesia and the Philippines in particular)



This is the most logical explanation I have seen to explain the absurd numbers in NY

That's true. I don't have numbers on it, but I have a theory there are more overweight elders among the immigrant population compared to the general public.

I don't know about obesity among elders in New York, it could also be a factor.

Cuomo putting infected patients into nursing homes is insane.

[Nanners]

That's true. I don't have numbers on it, but I have a theory there are more overweight elders among the immigrant population compared to the general public.

I don't know about obesity among elders in New York, it could also be a factor.

Cuomo putting infected patients into nursing homes is insane.

Yeah I dont have the numbers either, but I would guess that obesity rates in NYC are a bit lower than the rest of the country.

That said, if obesity was a significant driving factor in this I would expect to have seen a higher death rate in cities like OKC (45 deaths out of 1.4m metro residents (despite no lockdown)) and Houston (179 deaths out of 6.9m metro residents)

As far as I know, no other state has forced nursing homes to talk sick people... that seems like the main factor unique to the NYC situation

[hateraid]

Personally I don't think anyone really respected the virus. All this stay at home BS when you could walk right out your front door.

Staying at home was the new hashtag posh trend sweeping the world like the ice bucket challenge. Same people bitching online to stay home I saw routinely going to parks and hiking trails.

This month is mental health awareness month yet nobody is giving a damn. Why? Because it doesn't fill their social media agenda. If a celeb were to kill themselves then we'd have a hashtag frenzy. We are all victims to 2+2=5

[Nanners]

Personally I don't think anyone really respected the virus. All this stay at home BS when you could walk right out your front door.

Staying at home was the new hashtag posh trend sweeping the world like the ice bucket challenge. Same people bitching online to stay home I saw routinely going to parks and hiking trails.

This month is mental health awareness month yet nobody is giving a damn. Why? Because it doesn't fill their social media agenda. If a celeb were to kill themselves then we'd have a hashtag frenzy. We are all victims to 2+2=5

Are you still in Australia these days? According to google, Aus has only had 100 total covid deaths despite being locked down for 2+ months... and I dunno if that is pathetic or hilarious (I lean more on the pathetic side)

AUS is a country that is packed with creepy crawly critters that are trying to kill you, yet the govt is forcing their residents to stay home because of new strain of the common cold... maybe its more hilarious than pathetic after all

[Cleverness]

Remember when the lockdowns began and we were told that the virus was going to kill 2.2m americans (or more)? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/us/coronavirus-fatality-rate-white-house.html

Remember how hospitals were incentivized to list patients as suffering from covid? Remember how hospitals were incentivized to put covid patients on ventilators? - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/

Remember how states like Colorado are significantly reducing their death totals after looking at whether covid was actually responsible in the deaths of individuals who tested positive for the virus? - https://www.denverpost.com/2020/05/15/colorado-covid-coronavirus-counting-deaths-fatalities/

Remember how the top 5 nations for covid deaths are all wealthy western nations - the US, UK, Italy, Spain and France... these 5 wealthy countries are responsible for 70% of all covid deaths worldwide, despite being home to just 7% of the worlds population...meanwhile, China (the home of the outbreak) and India have had 0.02% of all covid deaths despite being home to almost ~40% of the worlds people. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/

What would it take for me to "respect" the virus? For starters, the published numbers (that supposedly prove how threatening the virus is) could be something that remotely resembles logical/believable

Anyway, its hilarious that you would attempt to smear the people who actually cite facts and numbers and have awareness of reality as "conspiracy theorists"... if conspiracy theories are for losers, then why are you spewing them all over this dumb ass thread?

/thread

[hateraid]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-death-toll-total.html

^^^ here are death totals vs previous years for all states with high covid numbers

NY Times is liberal bias and not an accurate report. You can counter it with the Epoch Times. Bias the other end of the spectrum. Never get your reports from print media.

Quoting the CDC I find to be questionable as well as it is well reported that there is incentive to list COD as Covid. As I posted in another thread, I had an aunt who was nearly cremated due to cause of death being covid, but when investigated we found out it was a stroke.

[Nanners]

As I posted in another thread, I had an aunt who was nearly cremated due to cause of death being covid, but when investigated we found out it was a stroke.

I am terribly sorry for your loss... but if you dont mind, recategorizing your aunt as a covid death would really help me and the other shills push the narrative of fear and helplessness that our boss "doctor bill" is paying us to perpetuate

[Cleverness]

I am terribly sorry for your loss... but if you dont mind, recategorizing your aunt as a covid death would really help me and the other shills push the narrative of fear and helplessness that our boss "doctor bill" is paying us to perpetuate

Yep. And the hospitals are empty and and going broke. To keep them afloat, they need to recoup that money somehow. Lucky for them there's a big $ incentive for adding COVID to the dx list.

[Manny98]

My mom works in a private hospital and they're having to cut staff due to the lack of patients

They expected the hospitals to be ovverun based on the way the media is presenting the virus

It's a whole lotta nothing, multiple study's have proved that the virus is LESS deadly than the seasonal flu

[Nanners]

My mom works in a private hospital and they're having to cut staff due to the lack of patients

They expected the hospitals to be ovverun based on the way the media is presenting the virus

It's a whole lotta nothing, multiple study's have proved that the virus is LESS deadly than the seasonal flu

bbbut the hospitals will be overrun if we reopen the country before doctor bill injects his latest untested vaccine into everyone

"flatten the curve" actually means "dont leave your house unless you have been injected with a vaccine"

[~primetime~]

NY Times is liberal bias and not an accurate report. You can counter it with the Epoch Times. Bias the other end of the spectrum. Never get your reports from print media.

Quoting the CDC I find to be questionable as well as it is well reported that there is incentive to list COD as Covid. As I posted in another thread, I had an aunt who was nearly cremated due to cause of death being covid, but when investigated we found out it was a stroke.

those are actual deaths...they link the CDC in there...the deaths are real

[hateraid]

I am terribly sorry for your loss... but if you dont mind, recategorizing your aunt as a covid death would really help me and the other shills push the narrative of fear and helplessness that our boss "doctor bill" is paying us to perpetuate

This didn't happen in the US. It happened in the Philippines. Unfortunately due to travel restrictions between provinces my family wasn't able to see her while she was in the hospital. She had a headache and wasn't feeling well. While in the hospital her condition worsened and she died immediately. The dodctor listed it as Covid. In the Phils if you die of Covid your body is immediately incinerated. My uncle refused it as he wanted a proper burial and demanded the actual COD report. He found out it was a stroke and was able to preserve the body

Now, this is in the Phils which is obviously a lot more corrupt, but I have no doubt deaths are incentivized if listed as Covid

[hateraid]

those are actual deaths...they link the CDC in there...the deaths are real

Yeah I believe the deaths are real, but COD can be slanted. That's what I was getting at

[~primetime~]

Yeah I believe the deaths are real, but COD can be slanted. That's what I was getting at

the cause of death is beyond the point...but clearly the random boom in deaths in those areas is covid.

[Nanners]

This didn't happen in the US. It happened in the Philippines. Unfortunately due to travel restrictions between provinces my family wasn't able to see her while she was in the hospital. She had a headache and wasn't feeling well. While in the hospital her condition worsened and she died immediately. The dodctor listed it as Covid. In the Phils if you die of Covid your body is immediately incinerated. My uncle refused it as he wanted a proper burial and demanded the actual COD report. He found out it was a stroke and was able to preserve the body

Now, this is in the Phils which is obviously a lot more corrupt, but I have no doubt deaths are incentivized if listed as Covid

In all seriousness, my condolences to you and your fam

Now to get back to our more light-hearted regularly scheduled programming, I am going to go ahead and log your experience as the first example of covid suddenly killing someone via a headache... which is ultimately great news for members of the media (like me), as unexplainable deaths are the scariest kind! (and this whole operation is all about drumming up fear in the first place.)

[SATAN]

Post your alt right Facebook group bro

[Nanners]

Post your alt right Facebook group bro

My facebook group is called "list of crybaby bedwetting libtards who are perpetually terrified of the world around them"... and tbh you seem like a perfect fit for what we are doing

[SATAN]

You seem like the most scared person I've ever seen tbh. You are on a constant meltdown about this issue. It's hilarious. :lol Your obsession with right/left makes you look like an absolute sheep btw. The biggest sheep on this board, yet others who seem more relaxed and informed are the sheep? :oldlol::facepalm What's your abovetopsecret.com handle?

[Axe]

This didn't happen in the US. It happened in the Philippines. Unfortunately due to travel restrictions between provinces my family wasn't able to see her while she was in the hospital. She had a headache and wasn't feeling well. While in the hospital her condition worsened and she died immediately. The dodctor listed it as Covid. In the Phils if you die of Covid your body is immediately incinerated. My uncle refused it as he wanted a proper burial and demanded the actual COD report. He found out it was a stroke and was able to preserve the body

Now, this is in the Phils which is obviously a lot more corrupt, but I have no doubt deaths are incentivized if listed as Covid
Meh. It's just another hopeless 3rd world country. 🥴

[hateraid]

OP, do you respect the virus this much now? Or did racism and Trump erase that respect?

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

The "virus" has no power in and of itself. Do you people honestly think that a lifeless agent can somehow infect a host and multiply itself of its own doing and accord?

It's subject to the will of God.

As for "respecting" it, if it's going to hit you it's going to hit you, and if it's going to miss you it's going to miss you.

No matter what you do. That's destiny.